Peter Allen starts with ...
I have had so much sucess growing Babaco up here in Olinda where it snows at least Once a year, that I had to make wine from the fruit. Being a permaculture designer we just made a suitable micoclimate and they have never looked back.
Note: it takes longer to ripen fruti so it is nessisary to have two leading branches down here.
I have had so much sucess growing Babaco up here in Olinda where it snows at least Once a year, that I had to make wine from the fruit. Being a permaculture designer we just made a suitable micoclimate and they have never looked back.
Note: it takes longer to ripen fruti so it is nessisary to have two leading branches down here.
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Peter Allen
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26th June 2007 9:16am
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Jan
Bundamba Qld.
29th June 2007 10:06pm
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Correy says...
Hi Jan,
Daleys does sell the Babaco - Carica pentagona You will need to go to the Babaco Page and click email me when available and we will notify you as soon as they are ready.
They definitely look like a relative of the paw paw, they also do well in pots. All the fruits are seedless and the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco.
Here are some links about the babaco you might like to look at
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Babaco.htm
Hi Jan,
Daleys does sell the Babaco - Carica pentagona You will need to go to the Babaco Page and click email me when available and we will notify you as soon as they are ready.
They definitely look like a relative of the paw paw, they also do well in pots. All the fruits are seedless and the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco.
Here are some links about the babaco you might like to look at
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Babaco.htm
Correy
Woolloongabba
29th June 2007 10:40pm
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Peter Allen says...
Hi to Kath, this Babaco gets full Eastern aspect as we are on the east of the Melb ranges, it would be OK to the north but North East is probably the best aspect, the west would be too hot.
to Jan, It is a Hybrid mountain pawpaw species, see "The complete book of fruit groing in Australia" by Loius Glowinski P: 277 this book is excellent for all sorts of fruit from all climates and is simple to read with good detail.
to Correy, It will flower and fruit in one season in the sub tropics but here it has flowers and green fruit in Summer/ Autumn then from Sept to Dec they ripen, while the next set start growing above this lot.
This means you dont get to cut down the tree to a stump for it to shoot again (if you do you lose a years fruit) so I run two branches and cut them alt years to get fruit every year.
Hi to Kath, this Babaco gets full Eastern aspect as we are on the east of the Melb ranges, it would be OK to the north but North East is probably the best aspect, the west would be too hot.
to Jan, It is a Hybrid mountain pawpaw species, see "The complete book of fruit groing in Australia" by Loius Glowinski P: 277 this book is excellent for all sorts of fruit from all climates and is simple to read with good detail.
to Correy, It will flower and fruit in one season in the sub tropics but here it has flowers and green fruit in Summer/ Autumn then from Sept to Dec they ripen, while the next set start growing above this lot.
This means you dont get to cut down the tree to a stump for it to shoot again (if you do you lose a years fruit) so I run two branches and cut them alt years to get fruit every year.
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Kath says...
"The babaco is thought to originate from a hybrid of two mountain or highland pawpaw species Carica pubescens and Carica stipulata, it has been cultivated in Ecuador since before the arrival of Europeans. Because there are only female babacos it does not produce seeds, it cannot be improved using conventional breeding techniques and it does not require cross pollination."
from Susanna Lyle's book - Discovering Fruit and Nuts.
Peter - We will be recommend a North eastern aspect to our southern customers for their babacos from now on.
"The babaco is thought to originate from a hybrid of two mountain or highland pawpaw species Carica pubescens and Carica stipulata, it has been cultivated in Ecuador since before the arrival of Europeans. Because there are only female babacos it does not produce seeds, it cannot be improved using conventional breeding techniques and it does not require cross pollination."
from Susanna Lyle's book - Discovering Fruit and Nuts.
Peter - We will be recommend a North eastern aspect to our southern customers for their babacos from now on.
Kath
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Tran says...
Hi Peter,
I have a fruiting Babaco in pot and it is getting quite big for the pot. In winter I cover the root with plastic sheets and almost all the leaves dropped except the fruits. I wonder if yours (soo beautiful) are on the ground. If so, please tell me if a special location that I should follow. I have a book from Dr Loius Glowinski
Many thanks
Tran
Hi Peter,
I have a fruiting Babaco in pot and it is getting quite big for the pot. In winter I cover the root with plastic sheets and almost all the leaves dropped except the fruits. I wonder if yours (soo beautiful) are on the ground. If so, please tell me if a special location that I should follow. I have a book from Dr Loius Glowinski
Many thanks
Tran
Tran
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10th August 2007 1:22pm
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Hi Tran mine are in built up beds made of bluestone to store heat and give good drainage ( we get snow here yearly so they are under lazer lite)they have lost all their leaves for now with big frosts and 2 days snow but they will recover well and ripen sept- dec here in Olinda.
if you wish to plant it out i suggest put it against the house or a wall and face east or Nth east so its protected from cold wind/rain and frost, it will like good drainage so wath if you have sticky clay in Clayton ( you may have to build it up) or buy a wine barrel, but hey if it fruits now your going OK already, the next thing is to cut it off so it shoots out again, this is why I keep 2 branches cos you sacrifice those green fruit before they ripen down our way. I have been told you can use the green fruit to cook with such as in a curry to replace green paw paw but i have not tried it yet as they look as interesting as a choko. hey also make lousy wine but a nice spirit.
cheers peter
PS Louis book is great and so is he.
Hi Tran mine are in built up beds made of bluestone to store heat and give good drainage ( we get snow here yearly so they are under lazer lite)they have lost all their leaves for now with big frosts and 2 days snow but they will recover well and ripen sept- dec here in Olinda.
if you wish to plant it out i suggest put it against the house or a wall and face east or Nth east so its protected from cold wind/rain and frost, it will like good drainage so wath if you have sticky clay in Clayton ( you may have to build it up) or buy a wine barrel, but hey if it fruits now your going OK already, the next thing is to cut it off so it shoots out again, this is why I keep 2 branches cos you sacrifice those green fruit before they ripen down our way. I have been told you can use the green fruit to cook with such as in a curry to replace green paw paw but i have not tried it yet as they look as interesting as a choko. hey also make lousy wine but a nice spirit.
cheers peter
PS Louis book is great and so is he.
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Correy says...
Well I am proud to say I have tasted my first babaco. The first bite was nothing like I expected perhaps because I expected it to taste like a paw paw. It certainly isn't sweet however the cultured taste almost like a good glass of wine starts making a great impression on you.
If you give them a bit of a chill in the fridge before eating them they are amazing. There is a lot of juice in each one.
My babaco is nearing it's second year and has 3 babacos forming on it.... I can't wait.
Well I am proud to say I have tasted my first babaco. The first bite was nothing like I expected perhaps because I expected it to taste like a paw paw. It certainly isn't sweet however the cultured taste almost like a good glass of wine starts making a great impression on you.
If you give them a bit of a chill in the fridge before eating them they are amazing. There is a lot of juice in each one.
My babaco is nearing it's second year and has 3 babacos forming on it.... I can't wait.
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
27th October 2007 5:58pm
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Anonymous says...
Hi Correy, yes there is a suprise if you thing you ae about to bite into a nice red pawpaw, the babaco has an acid taste ( like tamarillo) I suggest you eat it when it still has some green tinges on the edges and its quite firm, other wise we enjoy it teamed with the fleah of a mango as the compliment each other perfectly, just top & Tail the babaco and shove in the blender even with banana and some orange juice, we also freeze this mix for later in plastic cups. I have made wine , it smells like a fruit elexia cask wine but tastes very dry ( not my prefered style of wine) another one was wwe sent it to a freind who makes organic icecream and sorbets, the babaco's sharp aciddity is cut by the milk in icecream it's sensational.
why do you think I'm giving you recipes, well wait till next year we had so many fruit(even after 2 snows we ahd to make recipes)about 20-30 @ 1kg per plant.
they also freeze whole for later juicing.
so enjoy
peter
Hi Correy, yes there is a suprise if you thing you ae about to bite into a nice red pawpaw, the babaco has an acid taste ( like tamarillo) I suggest you eat it when it still has some green tinges on the edges and its quite firm, other wise we enjoy it teamed with the fleah of a mango as the compliment each other perfectly, just top & Tail the babaco and shove in the blender even with banana and some orange juice, we also freeze this mix for later in plastic cups. I have made wine , it smells like a fruit elexia cask wine but tastes very dry ( not my prefered style of wine) another one was wwe sent it to a freind who makes organic icecream and sorbets, the babaco's sharp aciddity is cut by the milk in icecream it's sensational.
why do you think I'm giving you recipes, well wait till next year we had so many fruit(even after 2 snows we ahd to make recipes)about 20-30 @ 1kg per plant.
they also freeze whole for later juicing.
so enjoy
peter
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27th October 2007 7:20pm
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Correy says...
Our Babaco has it rock bottom. Before we re-potted it the leaves were turning yellow and falling off then when we took it out of the pot we noticed that the root had a white fungus around it.
Now all the leaves have fallen off and we cut the top off it to see if it was dead. I have got 3 pictures for you to see?
Does anyone have any advise or knowledge about what has happened?
Our Babaco has it rock bottom. Before we re-potted it the leaves were turning yellow and falling off then when we took it out of the pot we noticed that the root had a white fungus around it.
Now all the leaves have fallen off and we cut the top off it to see if it was dead. I have got 3 pictures for you to see?
Does anyone have any advise or knowledge about what has happened?
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30th December 2007 9:30am
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Scott G says...
I grew (or rather tried to grow) a Babaco here on The Gold Coast and I failed. I didnt have it in a pot so I couldn't control its watering too much. At first I had it planted on a raised bed of normal soil (here clay loam) in full sun. It didn't like the heat and dropped its leaves. Then I replanted it under the bananas for some shade and cool. The soil there was damper and very high in organic matter. It began to recover then its roots rotted. I transplanted the side shoots in various places and some of them took root. Then we had a rainy period and they rotted too.
Correy: are you sure you are right when you said "the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco"? Do you mean it is/was on a pawpaw rootstock?
A grafted babaco on a pawpaw rootstock might be the answer to my problems.
I grew (or rather tried to grow) a Babaco here on The Gold Coast and I failed. I didnt have it in a pot so I couldn't control its watering too much. At first I had it planted on a raised bed of normal soil (here clay loam) in full sun. It didn't like the heat and dropped its leaves. Then I replanted it under the bananas for some shade and cool. The soil there was damper and very high in organic matter. It began to recover then its roots rotted. I transplanted the side shoots in various places and some of them took root. Then we had a rainy period and they rotted too.
Correy: are you sure you are right when you said "the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco"? Do you mean it is/was on a pawpaw rootstock?
A grafted babaco on a pawpaw rootstock might be the answer to my problems.
Scott G
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8th January 2008 9:44am
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Correy says...
Yes my babaco is grafted onto Papayuelo rootstock. If you have a look at these comments on the babaco page you will notice that drainage is number one priority.
It was my fault because when I first planted the babaco I was just starting out and didn't know the joys of selecting a good quality potting mix.
Now that it has been re-potted it looks like it is getting some great regrowth see picture 1.
Yes my babaco is grafted onto Papayuelo rootstock. If you have a look at these comments on the babaco page you will notice that drainage is number one priority.
It was my fault because when I first planted the babaco I was just starting out and didn't know the joys of selecting a good quality potting mix.
Now that it has been re-potted it looks like it is getting some great regrowth see picture 1.
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8th January 2008 10:29am
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Larry says...
Hi Correy,
What you have is root rot. When you have moist conditions with not much sunlight a white fungis appears. They will go up the minor cappileries in your root system and slowly kill your plant. Symptoms are leaves yellowing and/or lower leaves slowly dying and falling off. The only cure is to repot your plant with different potting mix and pot. If wish to reuse the original pot you will have to clean it with bleach. Prevention is always better than the cure, make sure you have excellent drainage at the base of your pot and don't over water in winter.
Hi Correy,
What you have is root rot. When you have moist conditions with not much sunlight a white fungis appears. They will go up the minor cappileries in your root system and slowly kill your plant. Symptoms are leaves yellowing and/or lower leaves slowly dying and falling off. The only cure is to repot your plant with different potting mix and pot. If wish to reuse the original pot you will have to clean it with bleach. Prevention is always better than the cure, make sure you have excellent drainage at the base of your pot and don't over water in winter.
Larry
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Kate says...
hi there,
I have bought 2 babaco trees from daleys nursery. planted them both at the same time. One is near the fence protected by a gardenia tree and pepino bush and is doing nicely and has 2 tiny fuit on it and nearly a metre high. the other one though is about 6 foot away and is only half the size. It is more exposed though to the elements, does anyone have any ideas, does anyone companion plant?
hi there,
I have bought 2 babaco trees from daleys nursery. planted them both at the same time. One is near the fence protected by a gardenia tree and pepino bush and is doing nicely and has 2 tiny fuit on it and nearly a metre high. the other one though is about 6 foot away and is only half the size. It is more exposed though to the elements, does anyone have any ideas, does anyone companion plant?
Kate
Wollongong
18th June 2008 6:17pm
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Jeff says...
I planted a Babaco tree from Daleys about 10 months ago. Since then it has grown from about 30cm to over 2 metres, and has heaps of fruit on it (about 20). However, for some reason, the fruit do not seem to be ripening. The largest ones have been sitting apparently dormant for about 4 months, with no change in size or colour. The tree is still growing and making more new fruit. Any ideas?
I planted a Babaco tree from Daleys about 10 months ago. Since then it has grown from about 30cm to over 2 metres, and has heaps of fruit on it (about 20). However, for some reason, the fruit do not seem to be ripening. The largest ones have been sitting apparently dormant for about 4 months, with no change in size or colour. The tree is still growing and making more new fruit. Any ideas?
Jeff
Brisbane
8th July 2008 10:10am
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Anonymous says...
Dont worry ... mine did the same. the fact is making more new growth and fruit is a good sign. It should ripen up in Spring.
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
Dont worry ... mine did the same. the fact is making more new growth and fruit is a good sign. It should ripen up in Spring.
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
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Peter the permie says...
Hi I sell all my fruit at the farmers markets here in melb from Sept to next aopril as they ripen , I dont get to eat any now as they all go ( annd so do the trees I propogate as its dead easy)
cheers peter
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Hi I sell all my fruit at the farmers markets here in melb from Sept to next aopril as they ripen , I dont get to eat any now as they all go ( annd so do the trees I propogate as its dead easy)
cheers peter
www.petethepermie.com
Peter the permie
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clarence says...
Hi guys, I am trying to get my hands on a babaco plant since I first saw it in the Royal Botanical Gardens last week. I thought it was a paw paw tree but was really fascinated when I was told it was babaco. Does anyone have any cuttings to sell or know a nursery in Melbourne where these plants could be obtained ? Please email me at yapc@bigfoot.com if you could assist. Thank you for your assistance.
Hi guys, I am trying to get my hands on a babaco plant since I first saw it in the Royal Botanical Gardens last week. I thought it was a paw paw tree but was really fascinated when I was told it was babaco. Does anyone have any cuttings to sell or know a nursery in Melbourne where these plants could be obtained ? Please email me at yapc@bigfoot.com if you could assist. Thank you for your assistance.
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Liz says...
Manda - Joyce (from Boya) offered on another thread to swap some babaco cuttings, so she might alternatively be willing to sell some:
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/dragon-fruit/?PHPSESSID=649da1b2ad68e6053826ef724e865b40
Manda - Joyce (from Boya) offered on another thread to swap some babaco cuttings, so she might alternatively be willing to sell some:
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/dragon-fruit/?PHPSESSID=649da1b2ad68e6053826ef724e865b40
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3rd May 2009 12:26am
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Michael says...
Anyone living in the Sydney area and wishing to buy Babaco plants - There is a nusery just outside Trash and Treasure ( turn left when exiting )in Casula that was selling them for $25 . I bought two from them and they were around 45 - 60 cm tall and just over a year now and look how tall and how many fruits I have from them already.It is seasonal and if I remember it correctly they were restocking it around August - October ( Sorry I don't recall the name of the nusery )
The small babaco in the orange pot was a purchase from Daleys and frutied in no time at all after purchase.
Anyone living in the Sydney area and wishing to buy Babaco plants - There is a nusery just outside Trash and Treasure ( turn left when exiting )in Casula that was selling them for $25 . I bought two from them and they were around 45 - 60 cm tall and just over a year now and look how tall and how many fruits I have from them already.It is seasonal and if I remember it correctly they were restocking it around August - October ( Sorry I don't recall the name of the nusery )
The small babaco in the orange pot was a purchase from Daleys and frutied in no time at all after purchase.
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10th June 2009 4:25pm
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10th June 2009 7:32pm
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Michael says...
Hi Julie,
I didn't do anything special to my babaco apart from putting it into a 55cm pot with premium potting mix bought from bunnings. I added half a kilo of chicken liver into the pot at the beggining and added a layer of mushroom compost at the top. I water it once a week and just a few months later tiny fruits started appearing. I don't think my fruiting babaco was due to any special technique but more to the suitability of the weather and how much sun it gets. Of the two I bought from the same nusery one fruited in 2 months and the other a year later. The earlier frutied plant was in full sun all day while the other one was in part shade . So from two plants bought at the same nursery and being potted with the same potting mix and watering patterns ,one fruited in 2 months and the other frutied a year later with the only difference being the amount of sunlight each plant recieves .
Not sure if this was helpful or not ?
Hi Julie,
I didn't do anything special to my babaco apart from putting it into a 55cm pot with premium potting mix bought from bunnings. I added half a kilo of chicken liver into the pot at the beggining and added a layer of mushroom compost at the top. I water it once a week and just a few months later tiny fruits started appearing. I don't think my fruiting babaco was due to any special technique but more to the suitability of the weather and how much sun it gets. Of the two I bought from the same nusery one fruited in 2 months and the other a year later. The earlier frutied plant was in full sun all day while the other one was in part shade . So from two plants bought at the same nursery and being potted with the same potting mix and watering patterns ,one fruited in 2 months and the other frutied a year later with the only difference being the amount of sunlight each plant recieves .
Not sure if this was helpful or not ?
Michael
Wakeley
11th June 2009 1:41pm
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amanda says...
Hi Michael - did u use chicken LIVERS? How did they go in a pot? Did it get all smelly n rotten at all? I am really curious about it!? I would never have thought of putting offal in a pot..there was a lady on the forum recently asking about putting her placenta in a pot too? Info could b of help to her.
Hi Michael - did u use chicken LIVERS? How did they go in a pot? Did it get all smelly n rotten at all? I am really curious about it!? I would never have thought of putting offal in a pot..there was a lady on the forum recently asking about putting her placenta in a pot too? Info could b of help to her.
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Julie says...
Years ago it used to be recommended to put an oxheart or liver under passionfruit. My thinking was it was an old-fashioned country idea - offal was probably easily available and free or cheap.
It's not any longer, and I feel sure using a handful of blood and bone would do the same thing, but cheaper.Any thoughts on this?
Years ago it used to be recommended to put an oxheart or liver under passionfruit. My thinking was it was an old-fashioned country idea - offal was probably easily available and free or cheap.
It's not any longer, and I feel sure using a handful of blood and bone would do the same thing, but cheaper.Any thoughts on this?
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Roleystone WA
14th June 2009 6:21pm
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amanda says...
Julie - that's probly quite true about offal! Liver is full of iron also. Any organics that you can add to your soil is worthwhile.
It's illegal to collect roadkill if it's a native spp but for the rest ok. I pass loads of rabbit roadkill - one day i will get motivated to chuck it in the back the truck for fertiliser!
Bury it deep n put branches on top to stop dogs digging it up - works for me. I am also going to approach my local dog groomers n hairdressers for all the hair n stick in my compost...pure nitrogen for free. Saves $ and recycles.
Julie - that's probly quite true about offal! Liver is full of iron also. Any organics that you can add to your soil is worthwhile.
It's illegal to collect roadkill if it's a native spp but for the rest ok. I pass loads of rabbit roadkill - one day i will get motivated to chuck it in the back the truck for fertiliser!
Bury it deep n put branches on top to stop dogs digging it up - works for me. I am also going to approach my local dog groomers n hairdressers for all the hair n stick in my compost...pure nitrogen for free. Saves $ and recycles.
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17th June 2009 1:13am
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Roleystone WA
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amanda says...
Hi Julie - it's mentioned in one of my many books - haven't confirmed it for myself. I know the dead turtles on the beach in Carnarvon were not allowed to be touched either (we worked in fishing industry there) many people tempted to take the shell. I guess it would be open to abuse by poachers for skins etc.
It's illegal to collect many things (depending on where u live): wildflowers, seaweed, bush plants/seeds, etc
Hi Julie - it's mentioned in one of my many books - haven't confirmed it for myself. I know the dead turtles on the beach in Carnarvon were not allowed to be touched either (we worked in fishing industry there) many people tempted to take the shell. I guess it would be open to abuse by poachers for skins etc.
It's illegal to collect many things (depending on where u live): wildflowers, seaweed, bush plants/seeds, etc
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TheCastle says...
We search Babaco or champagne fruit - Carica pentagona, we want to buy it, this is our dream of several years, we investigate this plant for our mini-botanical garden:
http://www.sarafovo.net/zamakat/bulgaria/garden.html
We would be very glad if you help us with something, we are ready to pay the required price, we wait eagerly your reply. We are interested in other exotic fruits too such as Sapodilla.
Sincerely, Ani Gencheva
We search Babaco or champagne fruit - Carica pentagona, we want to buy it, this is our dream of several years, we investigate this plant for our mini-botanical garden:
http://www.sarafovo.net/zamakat/bulgaria/garden.html
We would be very glad if you help us with something, we are ready to pay the required price, we wait eagerly your reply. We are interested in other exotic fruits too such as Sapodilla.
Sincerely, Ani Gencheva
TheCastle
Bulgaria, Burgas
28th June 2009 7:56pm
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TheCastle
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28th June 2009 7:59pm
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TheCastle
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28th June 2009 8:24pm
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juanita says...
Hi castle,
You can also get babaco from daley's fruit for the same price...I guess postage can be quite expensive for oversea clients?
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm
Good luck
Hi castle,
You can also get babaco from daley's fruit for the same price...I guess postage can be quite expensive for oversea clients?
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm
Good luck
juanita
1st July 2009 12:21am
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TheCastle says...
Hi, Juanita. We heartily thank you for rapid response. We recently wrote to them on this site, but they didnt have babako and maybe not possible to send for oversea. So we are looking for other ways. It is only one place on earth where you can buy babako? Our hope is that someone at home keeping babako will read our request and we will buy it from him. The price of the plant plus the cost of transport. Is this plant located somewhere in Europe?
Hi, Juanita. We heartily thank you for rapid response. We recently wrote to them on this site, but they didnt have babako and maybe not possible to send for oversea. So we are looking for other ways. It is only one place on earth where you can buy babako? Our hope is that someone at home keeping babako will read our request and we will buy it from him. The price of the plant plus the cost of transport. Is this plant located somewhere in Europe?
TheCastle
Bulgaria, Burgas
5th July 2009 7:42pm
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juanita
7th July 2009 12:30am
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Speedy says...
hi Castle ,
I reckon Juanita is on the money there.
Try searching these for poeple in Europe with them and go from there.
http://growingontheedge.net/viewforum.php?f=2
http://www.cloudforest.com/
hi Castle ,
I reckon Juanita is on the money there.
Try searching these for poeple in Europe with them and go from there.
http://growingontheedge.net/viewforum.php?f=2
http://www.cloudforest.com/
Speedy
Nth Vic.
7th July 2009 12:24pm
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TheCastle says...
Thank you, friends, you are great, thanks for responsiveness. So, my job is really hopeless. I'm goofy entusiasit. I'm sending you a link to see my mini-botanical garden, which is made in our modest bulgarian options, but I made it for a long 20 years period of work and much fantasy.
http://zamakat.com/flash-gallery/
http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/garden.html
http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/page4.html
I hope you like it. I will make the attempts for the guidelines that you gave, but if you hear anything, write me to my e-mail: zamakat@yahoo.com
Oh, I forgot to tell you, that I discovered sometime before Babaco of auction in e-bay, and the price was reached about $ 60, but remained 10 hours to the end of the auction and couldn't get a registration. And so i missed it, it's sold. Now there isn't any of it. ;(
Thank you, friends, you are great, thanks for responsiveness. So, my job is really hopeless. I'm goofy entusiasit. I'm sending you a link to see my mini-botanical garden, which is made in our modest bulgarian options, but I made it for a long 20 years period of work and much fantasy.
http://zamakat.com/flash-gallery/
http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/garden.html
http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/page4.html
I hope you like it. I will make the attempts for the guidelines that you gave, but if you hear anything, write me to my e-mail: zamakat@yahoo.com
Oh, I forgot to tell you, that I discovered sometime before Babaco of auction in e-bay, and the price was reached about $ 60, but remained 10 hours to the end of the auction and couldn't get a registration. And so i missed it, it's sold. Now there isn't any of it. ;(
TheCastle
Bulgaria, Burgas
10th July 2009 8:57pm
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Liz says...
Hi everyone - interesting comments on offal and chicken livers and placentas... long, long ago (well, in the 1970's...) a nurse that I know used to bring placentas home from the hospital and use them to fertilise the roses... they grew really well! ...as Julie alluded, blood and bone is pretty much the same - just processed! ...and I guess which is more expensive depends on circumstances - if you're on a farm, growing chooks or come across lots of roadkill, roadkill or butchering scraps would be cheaper than blood and bone... I think Bill Mollison used to talk about mulching cats, too...
Happy gardening... :-)
Liz
Hi everyone - interesting comments on offal and chicken livers and placentas... long, long ago (well, in the 1970's...) a nurse that I know used to bring placentas home from the hospital and use them to fertilise the roses... they grew really well! ...as Julie alluded, blood and bone is pretty much the same - just processed! ...and I guess which is more expensive depends on circumstances - if you're on a farm, growing chooks or come across lots of roadkill, roadkill or butchering scraps would be cheaper than blood and bone... I think Bill Mollison used to talk about mulching cats, too...
Happy gardening... :-)
Liz
Liz
Thornlie (Perth) WA
13th July 2009 10:42pm
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amanda says...
Liz- interesting comments! I was always tempted to pilfer the blood donations that got binned due to use-by-date being up - for the garden. Possibly gross thought, I know, by why waste a totally useful and clinically tested "clean" product?
Many blood donations don't get used - I donate blood and would (personally) like to know it was put to good use rather than in landfill?
Liz- interesting comments! I was always tempted to pilfer the blood donations that got binned due to use-by-date being up - for the garden. Possibly gross thought, I know, by why waste a totally useful and clinically tested "clean" product?
Many blood donations don't get used - I donate blood and would (personally) like to know it was put to good use rather than in landfill?
amanda
Geraldton.WA
17th July 2009 12:49am
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Speedy says...
Yeah, Ive used dead amimals before,
and i know a guy who would collect the dogs and cats from the pound who'd had the 'Green Dream' and he'd bury them and plant trees on them.
he's now got a beautiful food forest.
Were often slaugtering sheep for food and the leftovers come in really handy for adding nutrient to the soil.
This weekend were doing a big pig!
Hmmm ...salami, prociutto, and REAL bacon.
and the left overs (not a real lot) to grow an apple tree for sauce for a pig two yrs from now.
The cycles of life, death, life....;-)
Yeah, Ive used dead amimals before,
and i know a guy who would collect the dogs and cats from the pound who'd had the 'Green Dream' and he'd bury them and plant trees on them.
he's now got a beautiful food forest.
Were often slaugtering sheep for food and the leftovers come in really handy for adding nutrient to the soil.
This weekend were doing a big pig!
Hmmm ...salami, prociutto, and REAL bacon.
and the left overs (not a real lot) to grow an apple tree for sauce for a pig two yrs from now.
The cycles of life, death, life....;-)
Speedy
Swan Hill, Vic
17th July 2009 10:51am
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amanda says...
Wow speedy - is that home grown pork? Friends of ours had a mangoe farm and two pigs that got fed all the surplus mangoes for months b4 slaughter...the meat was beautiful, tender and "fruity"..(true!). I have have always been keen on marketing roo proscuitto - I tried it once - it was really good!
Wow speedy - is that home grown pork? Friends of ours had a mangoe farm and two pigs that got fed all the surplus mangoes for months b4 slaughter...the meat was beautiful, tender and "fruity"..(true!). I have have always been keen on marketing roo proscuitto - I tried it once - it was really good!
amanda
Geraldton.WA
19th July 2009 12:50pm
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Liz
Thornlie (Perth)
20th July 2009 5:15pm
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Geraldton. WA
20th July 2009 11:33pm
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Speedy
Swan Hill, Vic
22nd July 2009 2:49pm
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Swan Hill, Vic
22nd July 2009 2:53pm
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amanda says...
MMMnnn..bet those ribs were good too! and no post-weaning systemic wasting syndrome..he he!..Thanks for pics - I'm looking forward to having a cupla breeder sows of my own one day!
Please let me know how u do the proscuitto one day? ..i researched on internet ages ago but it seemed a bit full-on the traditional way (for our climate)I thought it would go off.
MMMnnn..bet those ribs were good too! and no post-weaning systemic wasting syndrome..he he!..Thanks for pics - I'm looking forward to having a cupla breeder sows of my own one day!
Please let me know how u do the proscuitto one day? ..i researched on internet ages ago but it seemed a bit full-on the traditional way (for our climate)I thought it would go off.
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Geraldton. WA
22nd July 2009 7:25pm
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Mike
Melbourne
23rd July 2009 11:19pm
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Speedy says...
Back on topic...
cuttings is the traditional propagation method, though grafting and micropropagation can be done,
they're more recent methods.
Take cuttings say, about 10 times as long as thick (eg. 2cm dia x 20cm long).
Leave to dry and heal the cut ends.
You can paint the cut ends with potassium permanganate
solution (enough to make water red-purple) as fungicide before drying,
but not essential.
put gently into coarse sandy potting mix
without breaking sealed cut ie. don't just shove them in, rather,
make hole, insert cutting, backfill/ firm down and water.
water once and once only as they're very sensetive to rotting.
Avoid getting the top of cutting wet unnecesarily.
stem cutting that is - tips, no worries
do them in late winter-spring.
they dont like too hot or too cold,
around 25degC is optimum.
closer to winter if further north.
oh yeah, just thought I'd replace the pig pic with the orginal babaco pic.
Back on topic...
cuttings is the traditional propagation method, though grafting and micropropagation can be done,
they're more recent methods.
Take cuttings say, about 10 times as long as thick (eg. 2cm dia x 20cm long).
Leave to dry and heal the cut ends.
You can paint the cut ends with potassium permanganate
solution (enough to make water red-purple) as fungicide before drying,
but not essential.
put gently into coarse sandy potting mix
without breaking sealed cut ie. don't just shove them in, rather,
make hole, insert cutting, backfill/ firm down and water.
water once and once only as they're very sensetive to rotting.
Avoid getting the top of cutting wet unnecesarily.
stem cutting that is - tips, no worries
do them in late winter-spring.
they dont like too hot or too cold,
around 25degC is optimum.
closer to winter if further north.
oh yeah, just thought I'd replace the pig pic with the orginal babaco pic.
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Speedy
Swan Hill, Vic
24th July 2009 12:10am
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Melbourne
24th July 2009 5:18pm
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Perth
24th July 2009 5:50pm
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Thornlie (Perth)
30th July 2009 7:09pm
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Julie2 says...
Ive recently moved from new zealand to brisbane,Australia.25 odd years ago i remember my godmother having a babaco tree in her yard,the fruit was devine.Years have gone by and ive never seen any for sale in n.z and apon going to visit my childhood town the plant had since been dug up and got rid of.I always thought it was weird never seeing anymore plants or fruit available in n.z.Ijust put it down to being a magical plant my godmother had..
Can you get them in Brisbane?if so where?We are in Banyo about 10 minutes from the Brisbane Airport.
Ive recently moved from new zealand to brisbane,Australia.25 odd years ago i remember my godmother having a babaco tree in her yard,the fruit was devine.Years have gone by and ive never seen any for sale in n.z and apon going to visit my childhood town the plant had since been dug up and got rid of.I always thought it was weird never seeing anymore plants or fruit available in n.z.Ijust put it down to being a magical plant my godmother had..
Can you get them in Brisbane?if so where?We are in Banyo about 10 minutes from the Brisbane Airport.
Julie2
new zealand
31st July 2009 2:55pm
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Correy says...
Julie2,
They certainly are a bit of a rare fruit. Which is probably why you won't get many in bunnings and typical garden centers.
They are very popular at Daleys I just had a look at the figures for this year and so far we have sold 99 of them.
We added 10 to the website on the 29th of July 09 and they were all purchased within 24 hours. We Send them out to people by mail order.
May I suggest that you put your email address down at this page so you can get a sms or email next time we have some ready.
Babaco or Champagne Fruit
In my household only 2 of us like them. The others don't. I like how they aren't too sweet and when they are chilled they have a great texture. As long as you don't get any of the pulp in your mouth of course.
Julie2,
They certainly are a bit of a rare fruit. Which is probably why you won't get many in bunnings and typical garden centers.
They are very popular at Daleys I just had a look at the figures for this year and so far we have sold 99 of them.
We added 10 to the website on the 29th of July 09 and they were all purchased within 24 hours. We Send them out to people by mail order.
May I suggest that you put your email address down at this page so you can get a sms or email next time we have some ready.
Babaco or Champagne Fruit
In my household only 2 of us like them. The others don't. I like how they aren't too sweet and when they are chilled they have a great texture. As long as you don't get any of the pulp in your mouth of course.
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
31st July 2009 6:38pm
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Toby
Perth
4th August 2009 9:32am
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Peter the permie says...
Hi Speedy thanks for reinstating the pic I put up 2 years ago, since then I have produced probably 50 plants from my original 2 by using the method described by you.
we have also been selling the fruit when we have excess at farmers markets from Sept to March in Melb.
we have also experimented with these acid fruit, we made wine & snapps but some of our favourite recipes are to make, sorbet, organic Icecream (the milk cut the acid well)smoothy's with a mango or banana. but the best seems to be to 1/4 them lengthways and place in a pan with a little water and 2 spoons of demara sugar and bake on 180c for 1/2 hour. my wife will eat a whole fruit for brekkie with yogurt this way.
cheers and enjoy
pete the permie
Hi Speedy thanks for reinstating the pic I put up 2 years ago, since then I have produced probably 50 plants from my original 2 by using the method described by you.
we have also been selling the fruit when we have excess at farmers markets from Sept to March in Melb.
we have also experimented with these acid fruit, we made wine & snapps but some of our favourite recipes are to make, sorbet, organic Icecream (the milk cut the acid well)smoothy's with a mango or banana. but the best seems to be to 1/4 them lengthways and place in a pan with a little water and 2 spoons of demara sugar and bake on 180c for 1/2 hour. my wife will eat a whole fruit for brekkie with yogurt this way.
cheers and enjoy
pete the permie
Peter the permie
monbulk vic
8th August 2009 10:26pm
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Michael says...
Hi Peter,
My Babaco plant is growing in a pot with nice green fruits on them . My problem is that they have stop growing in size and have been green for almost a year now. Tiny fruits keep growing on top but the bottom ones don't turn yellow at all. When should I expect the fruit to turn yellow ?
Hi Peter,
My Babaco plant is growing in a pot with nice green fruits on them . My problem is that they have stop growing in size and have been green for almost a year now. Tiny fruits keep growing on top but the bottom ones don't turn yellow at all. When should I expect the fruit to turn yellow ?
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Wakeley
8th August 2009 10:49pm
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snottiegobble
10th August 2009 1:50am
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HappyEarth says...
Agreed - Ive lost three babacos to wet feet - you must give them excellant drainage or keep them in a pot.
Hi Michael - the fruits take about a year to fully ripen and will ripen up for you in spring.
BTW, does anyone have any cuttings they are willing to swap for something? I have Miracle fruit at the moment?
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
Agreed - Ive lost three babacos to wet feet - you must give them excellant drainage or keep them in a pot.
Hi Michael - the fruits take about a year to fully ripen and will ripen up for you in spring.
BTW, does anyone have any cuttings they are willing to swap for something? I have Miracle fruit at the moment?
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
HappyEarth
Wollongong
10th August 2009 7:02am
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Ellen
Smithfield
10th August 2009 7:37am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,
It looks to me that your babaco has wet feet. I think it will collapse at that point. You can test it by slight press that bit with your fingers and see it is firm like other part of the trunk or not. If not then it will collapse. If that is the case then chop the green part the still ok and cut into 20cm in length and let it dry up for a week then try to regrow them in propagating sand. Water only once a month untill the weather get warmer. BTW, it looks to me that your soil is a bit clay so please test by making a hole and pour a bit of water in the hole and see how long it disappear? I think you may have to mould your soil to have the best drainage.
Hi Ellen,
It looks to me that your babaco has wet feet. I think it will collapse at that point. You can test it by slight press that bit with your fingers and see it is firm like other part of the trunk or not. If not then it will collapse. If that is the case then chop the green part the still ok and cut into 20cm in length and let it dry up for a week then try to regrow them in propagating sand. Water only once a month untill the weather get warmer. BTW, it looks to me that your soil is a bit clay so please test by making a hole and pour a bit of water in the hole and see how long it disappear? I think you may have to mould your soil to have the best drainage.
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Melbourne
10th August 2009 8:24am
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Ellen says...
Yes Nguyet
2ocm of top soil there is clay like but below is well drain soil, the thing was when I put the tree down, I thought since it a shalow root tree, just to give it a push, I'll plant it down further a bit,,,man,,,disaster .
Yes, the fibrous side of the trunk is quite soft while the other half is still very sturdy .
This propagating sand , should I mix the sand with anything or just plain sand will do ?
Yes Nguyet
2ocm of top soil there is clay like but below is well drain soil, the thing was when I put the tree down, I thought since it a shalow root tree, just to give it a push, I'll plant it down further a bit,,,man,,,disaster .
Yes, the fibrous side of the trunk is quite soft while the other half is still very sturdy .
This propagating sand , should I mix the sand with anything or just plain sand will do ?
Ellen
Smithfield
10th August 2009 9:35am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,
Babaco can't stand clay soil unless you apply claybreaker to your soil. If I was you, I would either plant in pot or make a mould, apply clay breaker then grow on the ground.
Potting mix or washed sand or sand mix with potting mix will do. I did plant a skinny trunk in a pot in June last year in moist potting mix with no watering at all and 3 months later it had root on it. It was in my laundry room. The tree is one year old now.
I believe when you built your house the bulldoze did turn your soil a bit upside down so the clay soil on top of the normal soil.
Please do not put all cuttings in one pot just in case the rotten bit may spread to the rest. The important bit is to keep the medium moist but not wet.
If your top 20 cm is clay you may want to apply claybreaker to your garden because most trees don't like wet feet in general. BTW, I am not sure about your blueberry trees whether you should apply claybreaker to surrounding area of the trees because they like acid soil and from my memory claybreaker may increase PH but bluberry trees hate wet feet too.
Hi Ellen,
Babaco can't stand clay soil unless you apply claybreaker to your soil. If I was you, I would either plant in pot or make a mould, apply clay breaker then grow on the ground.
Potting mix or washed sand or sand mix with potting mix will do. I did plant a skinny trunk in a pot in June last year in moist potting mix with no watering at all and 3 months later it had root on it. It was in my laundry room. The tree is one year old now.
I believe when you built your house the bulldoze did turn your soil a bit upside down so the clay soil on top of the normal soil.
Please do not put all cuttings in one pot just in case the rotten bit may spread to the rest. The important bit is to keep the medium moist but not wet.
If your top 20 cm is clay you may want to apply claybreaker to your garden because most trees don't like wet feet in general. BTW, I am not sure about your blueberry trees whether you should apply claybreaker to surrounding area of the trees because they like acid soil and from my memory claybreaker may increase PH but bluberry trees hate wet feet too.
JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE
Melbourne
10th August 2009 9:59am
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Tabs says...
Does anybody have a Mountain Paw Paw (Carica Pubescens)? This is one of the parents of the Babaco. I have a female with loads of flowers but no male to pollinate it. By the way, my 3yo Babaco was really loaded this last year, so much so, that it fell over with the weight. Some of the fruit was huge, about 14" long and too large to get my hands around it. It took three people to lift it up and stake it in place. Its still doing fine with fruit left over from last autumn. It faces north, planted in the ground. We have clay soils here but I have put plenty of organic matter into it. It does however, sit 2 feet away from a steppe as we are on sloping ground and it has been really dry these last few years. It also has a fence protecting it from the westerlies.
Does anybody have a Mountain Paw Paw (Carica Pubescens)? This is one of the parents of the Babaco. I have a female with loads of flowers but no male to pollinate it. By the way, my 3yo Babaco was really loaded this last year, so much so, that it fell over with the weight. Some of the fruit was huge, about 14" long and too large to get my hands around it. It took three people to lift it up and stake it in place. Its still doing fine with fruit left over from last autumn. It faces north, planted in the ground. We have clay soils here but I have put plenty of organic matter into it. It does however, sit 2 feet away from a steppe as we are on sloping ground and it has been really dry these last few years. It also has a fence protecting it from the westerlies.
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Beverly Hills
11th September 2009 12:31am
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Smithfield
11th September 2009 6:25am
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Julie says...
I have a mountain paw paw I grew from seed. Quite disappointed in the fruit though - it comes all at once and doesn't keep well. Mine had a slightly bitter aftertaste.
I believe there are named varieties that are better. I haven't watered mine for the last couple of summers, so no fruit!
I have a mountain paw paw I grew from seed. Quite disappointed in the fruit though - it comes all at once and doesn't keep well. Mine had a slightly bitter aftertaste.
I believe there are named varieties that are better. I haven't watered mine for the last couple of summers, so no fruit!
Julie
Roleystone WA
11th September 2009 6:21pm
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11th September 2009 6:46pm
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Tabs says...
Hi Ellen
The last three of these pictures are of the female mountain pawpaw with stacks of flowers and the other one is my babaco with the last of last seasons fruit, it seems to supply fruit continuously throughout the year.
Hi Ellen
The last three of these pictures are of the female mountain pawpaw with stacks of flowers and the other one is my babaco with the last of last seasons fruit, it seems to supply fruit continuously throughout the year.
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Beverly Hills (Sydney)
12th September 2009 12:14pm
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Ellen says...
Thank You Tabs, your babaco's look superb .
Just a thought. Since you don't have a male mountain paw paw plant (flowers) to set off the female mountain paw paw (flowers), have you tried experimenting with using babaco's flowers in hand pollinating it ? Who knows it could turn out to be a very good experimentation and give you something else really good too .
Thank You Tabs, your babaco's look superb .
Just a thought. Since you don't have a male mountain paw paw plant (flowers) to set off the female mountain paw paw (flowers), have you tried experimenting with using babaco's flowers in hand pollinating it ? Who knows it could turn out to be a very good experimentation and give you something else really good too .
Ellen
Smithfield
12th September 2009 1:38pm
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Julie says...
Oohps! My mistake. Looking through my books, what I have is papaw (Asimona triloba), native to North America. I've had it so long I had forgotten!
Mountain Pawpaw, according to 'The Illustrated Book of Food Plants' is Carica condamarcensis. 'It has similiar but smaller fruits (to Papaya) which need to be cooked before eating or may be made into jam; its virtue is that it can be grown at higher altitudes in the tropics than the papaya'.
So what you have Ellen looks to me like a normal papaya - commonly, but incorrectly, called pawpaw.
Papaw, pawpaw, papaya - it's confusing, isn't it?
Oohps! My mistake. Looking through my books, what I have is papaw (Asimona triloba), native to North America. I've had it so long I had forgotten!
Mountain Pawpaw, according to 'The Illustrated Book of Food Plants' is Carica condamarcensis. 'It has similiar but smaller fruits (to Papaya) which need to be cooked before eating or may be made into jam; its virtue is that it can be grown at higher altitudes in the tropics than the papaya'.
So what you have Ellen looks to me like a normal papaya - commonly, but incorrectly, called pawpaw.
Papaw, pawpaw, papaya - it's confusing, isn't it?
Julie
Roleystone WA
12th September 2009 4:13pm
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Beverly Hills (Sydney)
12th September 2009 8:42pm
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snottiegobble says...
Today I was contacted by Dayleys telling me that they now have babacos in stock & of course I was elated, but hell when I went to order " WA quarantine does not allow import of babacos" met my eyes. I just cannot understand this because "Diggers" (when they have babacos in stock) can send them to WA!
If you read " Grass Roots' mag No 176 page 16 " Tantalising Babaco" you will understand my frustration because I am the author of that article, & as a result I was able to send babaco cuttings to many customers around Aust..( They travel very well as tip & stem cuttings when about 16cm & the ends allowed to dry off for a day before dispatch in AP blister envelopes. Early budding cuttings were the most successful) Of course when I moved to WA 6 months ago I had to leave my babacos behind.
I never thought for a moment there would be quarantine problems with a fruit that CAN ONLY be grown from cuttings!! It just doesnt add up !!
Anyone who can help please contact me on magixan05@yahoo.com.au
cheers Dave
Today I was contacted by Dayleys telling me that they now have babacos in stock & of course I was elated, but hell when I went to order " WA quarantine does not allow import of babacos" met my eyes. I just cannot understand this because "Diggers" (when they have babacos in stock) can send them to WA!
If you read " Grass Roots' mag No 176 page 16 " Tantalising Babaco" you will understand my frustration because I am the author of that article, & as a result I was able to send babaco cuttings to many customers around Aust..( They travel very well as tip & stem cuttings when about 16cm & the ends allowed to dry off for a day before dispatch in AP blister envelopes. Early budding cuttings were the most successful) Of course when I moved to WA 6 months ago I had to leave my babacos behind.
I never thought for a moment there would be quarantine problems with a fruit that CAN ONLY be grown from cuttings!! It just doesnt add up !!
Anyone who can help please contact me on magixan05@yahoo.com.au
cheers Dave
snottiegobble
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22nd September 2009 10:37pm
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Wayne says...
The following notice seems to appear on every Nursery site that I have visited of late -- "Because of recently introduced Quarantine requirements we are no longer able to send any seeds to WA customers" -- regardless of what you want to buy. I have been wondering about how you guys are getting on over there, seems pretty stupid to me.
The following notice seems to appear on every Nursery site that I have visited of late -- "Because of recently introduced Quarantine requirements we are no longer able to send any seeds to WA customers" -- regardless of what you want to buy. I have been wondering about how you guys are getting on over there, seems pretty stupid to me.
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23rd September 2009 8:08am
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Jimmy says...
babaco is allowed entry, www.agric.wa.gov.au/quarantine.
small shipments under 20 plants are exempt from the spraying requirements but all others apply.
babaco is allowed entry, www.agric.wa.gov.au/quarantine.
small shipments under 20 plants are exempt from the spraying requirements but all others apply.
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23rd September 2009 11:14am
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Jimmy, but i cant find babaco anywhere in that site. I tried Quarantine & alpha index sections.
If you could order some I would happily pay you as would many others in WA. You would make a killing, mate! I am also interested in apricots !!
Cheers Dave
Thanks Jimmy, but i cant find babaco anywhere in that site. I tried Quarantine & alpha index sections.
If you could order some I would happily pay you as would many others in WA. You would make a killing, mate! I am also interested in apricots !!
Cheers Dave
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Damian says...
Tried my first home grown babaco yesterday. Found it rather sour and tangy. It wasn't unpleasent but not nice to eat either. I did read it's known to have a different taste to papaya, i didn't expect it to be "sour".
The fruit was totally yellow and fragrant. The smell was sweet and nice, but the taste was an unpleasent surprise.
Is this normal or perhaps the quality of my fruit is poor?
Tried my first home grown babaco yesterday. Found it rather sour and tangy. It wasn't unpleasent but not nice to eat either. I did read it's known to have a different taste to papaya, i didn't expect it to be "sour".
The fruit was totally yellow and fragrant. The smell was sweet and nice, but the taste was an unpleasent surprise.
Is this normal or perhaps the quality of my fruit is poor?
Damian
Melbourne
1st December 2009 9:41am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Damian,
Yes, It is normal taste of babaco. It is a beautiful tropical tree but average tasting fruit for some. I would slice them up and sprinkle with sugar and leave it overnight and serve as fruit salad. You could stir fry the green fruit with chicken or beef slices or make curry with it.
Hi Damian,
Yes, It is normal taste of babaco. It is a beautiful tropical tree but average tasting fruit for some. I would slice them up and sprinkle with sugar and leave it overnight and serve as fruit salad. You could stir fry the green fruit with chicken or beef slices or make curry with it.
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Michael says...
I agree with Damian. I had high expectations for this fruit but find it below par. It tastes sour and soapy to me. Also the pepino is in this category for me. The taste is like an unripe cucumber to me rather than a honey dew.Unfortunately these are two of my most productive plants in the garden.
I agree with Damian. I had high expectations for this fruit but find it below par. It tastes sour and soapy to me. Also the pepino is in this category for me. The taste is like an unripe cucumber to me rather than a honey dew.Unfortunately these are two of my most productive plants in the garden.
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1st December 2009 1:27pm
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Diana says...
Hi Michael and Damian,
I agree about the babaco. I bought a few tropical and subtropical fruits that I hadn't tried at tropical fruit world, before I bought the plants. I'm glad I tried the babaco before I bought one, because I didn't like it. YThe same goes for canistel.
I initially thought the same about the pepino, before I discovered eventually that I had been picking them too soon. They have to be really super-ripe and yellow all over, then they will taste sweet (assuming that climate allows where you are- e.g. pawpaws in Melbourne are never really sweet).
I do have quite a few plants in my garden that I have never found for sale, and bought because of the description of their taste, though. I read a posting on the kei apple page recently that someone has pulled theirs up because it tasted horrible (the description is like apricots). On the other hand, some people don't like Atherton raspberries, and I love mine.
Does anyone else have an example of something they thought would taste good based on the description, but actually it does not?
Hi Michael and Damian,
I agree about the babaco. I bought a few tropical and subtropical fruits that I hadn't tried at tropical fruit world, before I bought the plants. I'm glad I tried the babaco before I bought one, because I didn't like it. YThe same goes for canistel.
I initially thought the same about the pepino, before I discovered eventually that I had been picking them too soon. They have to be really super-ripe and yellow all over, then they will taste sweet (assuming that climate allows where you are- e.g. pawpaws in Melbourne are never really sweet).
I do have quite a few plants in my garden that I have never found for sale, and bought because of the description of their taste, though. I read a posting on the kei apple page recently that someone has pulled theirs up because it tasted horrible (the description is like apricots). On the other hand, some people don't like Atherton raspberries, and I love mine.
Does anyone else have an example of something they thought would taste good based on the description, but actually it does not?
Diana
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1st December 2009 5:15pm
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Peter the permie says...
Hi guys , yes the Babaco is an acid fruit more like the Tamarillo, but we have found it very good when used in both Icecream (the milk cuts the acid) and in sorbet,. but the best way to use them has to be Baked- slice a whole fruit longways into 1/4's and place in dish with a touch of juice ( apple) and sprinkle with Demara sugar bake at 150-180C for 1/2 hour my wife eats a whole fruit for breaky like this with yogurt.
my worst experience was making wine ( I had so many fruit here after the snow in the hills above Melbourne) it smelt like a "Tropicana cask" from the 70's but tasted of a very dry white wine, I only drink red (whites for cleaning the BBQ)
cheers peter
PS: I have people line up to buy fruit on my stall at the weekends so I turn mine in to cash to spend on more trees to increase our 1000 vars we grow now.
Hi guys , yes the Babaco is an acid fruit more like the Tamarillo, but we have found it very good when used in both Icecream (the milk cuts the acid) and in sorbet,. but the best way to use them has to be Baked- slice a whole fruit longways into 1/4's and place in dish with a touch of juice ( apple) and sprinkle with Demara sugar bake at 150-180C for 1/2 hour my wife eats a whole fruit for breaky like this with yogurt.
my worst experience was making wine ( I had so many fruit here after the snow in the hills above Melbourne) it smelt like a "Tropicana cask" from the 70's but tasted of a very dry white wine, I only drink red (whites for cleaning the BBQ)
cheers peter
PS: I have people line up to buy fruit on my stall at the weekends so I turn mine in to cash to spend on more trees to increase our 1000 vars we grow now.
Peter the permie
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Violet Cactus says...
If you think babaco is tasteless, think again! I got a recipe from a South American. They love babaco over there. You just cut it up and stew it with a tiny squeeze of lemon juice, a good helping of sugar and enough cinnamon for your personal taste.
I do a variation on this recipe with powdered cardamom instead of cinnamon and it tastes heavenly. You can eat it warm or cold. You don;t have to add water before stewing because babacos are so juicy. I also make babaco jam and babaco marmalade. Delicious!
And they grow SO EASILY off cuttings that off my original tree (which took 2 years to fruit, as they all do) I now have six more trees and I could easily take more cuttings. I am giving away babaco trees to friends and relatives while the mother tree is still producing heaps of fruit. This tree is one of the best plants I have ever bought.
If you think babaco is tasteless, think again! I got a recipe from a South American. They love babaco over there. You just cut it up and stew it with a tiny squeeze of lemon juice, a good helping of sugar and enough cinnamon for your personal taste.
I do a variation on this recipe with powdered cardamom instead of cinnamon and it tastes heavenly. You can eat it warm or cold. You don;t have to add water before stewing because babacos are so juicy. I also make babaco jam and babaco marmalade. Delicious!
And they grow SO EASILY off cuttings that off my original tree (which took 2 years to fruit, as they all do) I now have six more trees and I could easily take more cuttings. I am giving away babaco trees to friends and relatives while the mother tree is still producing heaps of fruit. This tree is one of the best plants I have ever bought.
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9th December 2009 1:36am
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Violet Cactus says...
PS We also had the that experience with pepino, of tasting it before it was ripe, before we knew what to look for.
It tasted like bland cucumber and we were not impressed.
Later we found one on the plant that had turned golden all over and it tasted TOTALLY different.
It was a sweet, juicy, honeylike flavour, and we wished the rest would ripen in a hurry so we could eat more of this scrumptious fruit.
PS We also had the that experience with pepino, of tasting it before it was ripe, before we knew what to look for.
It tasted like bland cucumber and we were not impressed.
Later we found one on the plant that had turned golden all over and it tasted TOTALLY different.
It was a sweet, juicy, honeylike flavour, and we wished the rest would ripen in a hurry so we could eat more of this scrumptious fruit.
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9th December 2009 1:40am
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9th December 2009 11:06am
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Ellen says...
Hi Michael
Do you know that Indian Chilli Plant that I gave you last winter ? And you said that it had died .
Well you have to nurture it, in winter it is only going dormant, occasionally you still need to water it, to keep the root system going.
Anyway, mine have just been trimmed, and another plant had just sprung up as well in the other pot. Do you still want to give it another go Michael ?
Hi Michael
Do you know that Indian Chilli Plant that I gave you last winter ? And you said that it had died .
Well you have to nurture it, in winter it is only going dormant, occasionally you still need to water it, to keep the root system going.
Anyway, mine have just been trimmed, and another plant had just sprung up as well in the other pot. Do you still want to give it another go Michael ?
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10th December 2009 5:04am
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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
My star fruit is still small I think to have fruits. It put out some flowers last year but I pinched it all off. I've attached pictures of it over the winter and how it looks now.
I'm also trying to grow ambarella and soursop. The amberella is in the ground and is looking very healthy. The soursop is in a large pot and is putting out new growth. Also the jujube that I got from Nguyet has produced some small fruits . The tree is very small but I'm excited about the fruits so I'm leaving it on .If the tree get's bigger and the fruits are tasty then I'm going to plant it into the ground.
Hi Ellen,
My star fruit is still small I think to have fruits. It put out some flowers last year but I pinched it all off. I've attached pictures of it over the winter and how it looks now.
I'm also trying to grow ambarella and soursop. The amberella is in the ground and is looking very healthy. The soursop is in a large pot and is putting out new growth. Also the jujube that I got from Nguyet has produced some small fruits . The tree is very small but I'm excited about the fruits so I'm leaving it on .If the tree get's bigger and the fruits are tasty then I'm going to plant it into the ground.
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josh says...
hi everyone i recently bought a babaco and planted it in a pot that had an inbuilt water reservoir. the soil was a mix of potting mix and compost. I dont think it was able to drain properly because within a week of planting the roots had completley rotted off.
Ive divided the stem into 3 sections which i am planing to pot up with the hope of salvaging something from my mistake. Ill replant them in a different type of pot. anyone else had this sort of thing happen to them?
hi everyone i recently bought a babaco and planted it in a pot that had an inbuilt water reservoir. the soil was a mix of potting mix and compost. I dont think it was able to drain properly because within a week of planting the roots had completley rotted off.
Ive divided the stem into 3 sections which i am planing to pot up with the hope of salvaging something from my mistake. Ill replant them in a different type of pot. anyone else had this sort of thing happen to them?
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sydney
23rd December 2009 12:16pm
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Violet Cactus says...
The one thing babaco hates most of all is wet feet.
They love good drainage. Just grow them in the ground, is my recommendation.
Mine are growing like they're on steroids. I now have six plants in the ground, all starting with one tree.
Dip your cuttings in rooting hormone and just put them in normal pots until they get roots and big enough to plant out.
The one thing babaco hates most of all is wet feet.
They love good drainage. Just grow them in the ground, is my recommendation.
Mine are growing like they're on steroids. I now have six plants in the ground, all starting with one tree.
Dip your cuttings in rooting hormone and just put them in normal pots until they get roots and big enough to plant out.
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Melbourne
27th December 2009 8:19pm
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Gardener says...
Hi Violet Cactus
We have a Babaco, fruiting in its first year and already it is getting very tall. Has about 10 fruit on it (not ripe as yet) and is about 180 cm tall. We have never cut the stem at all and were wondering where we cut the Babaco trunk? Could you advise?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Violet Cactus
We have a Babaco, fruiting in its first year and already it is getting very tall. Has about 10 fruit on it (not ripe as yet) and is about 180 cm tall. We have never cut the stem at all and were wondering where we cut the Babaco trunk? Could you advise?
Thanks in advance.
Gardener
Montrose, Vic
26th February 2010 9:50am
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Gardener,
To begin with, just lop off the top of the tree. Take a cutting approx. 7 to 8 inches long.
You will have to chop some of the leaves and buds off the cutting. Make sure the lower part of the stem is free of leaves and buds, and just leave a couple of small, young leaves at the top.
I usually dip the end of the cutting in a little rooting hormone, then dibble a hole in some good quality potting mix in a large pot, insert the cutting, press the soil firmly around the stem then water it in with seaweed solution.
Keep the water up to the pot; don't let the soil dry out, but don't get it water-logged either.
Your mother tree will begin to form side-shoots as a result of this head-chopping. She will, over time, form side-shoots all up and down her trunk.
Each side-shoot can be cut off when it grows long enough, and potted up with rooting hormone as described, and made into a new tree.
When the baby trees have grown large and strong they can be planted in the garden.
This is a good way to stop your Babaco from becoming top-heavy with fruit and just keeling over.
"The tree can grow to about 6 feet high, and as the trunk is rather long and thin, with fruit growing in clusters towards the top, it can topple easily in high winds. In addition, the babaco fruit itself is quite heavy, and weaker branches may break off if too many fruits accumulate at one site."
Hi Gardener,
To begin with, just lop off the top of the tree. Take a cutting approx. 7 to 8 inches long.
You will have to chop some of the leaves and buds off the cutting. Make sure the lower part of the stem is free of leaves and buds, and just leave a couple of small, young leaves at the top.
I usually dip the end of the cutting in a little rooting hormone, then dibble a hole in some good quality potting mix in a large pot, insert the cutting, press the soil firmly around the stem then water it in with seaweed solution.
Keep the water up to the pot; don't let the soil dry out, but don't get it water-logged either.
Your mother tree will begin to form side-shoots as a result of this head-chopping. She will, over time, form side-shoots all up and down her trunk.
Each side-shoot can be cut off when it grows long enough, and potted up with rooting hormone as described, and made into a new tree.
When the baby trees have grown large and strong they can be planted in the garden.
This is a good way to stop your Babaco from becoming top-heavy with fruit and just keeling over.
"The tree can grow to about 6 feet high, and as the trunk is rather long and thin, with fruit growing in clusters towards the top, it can topple easily in high winds. In addition, the babaco fruit itself is quite heavy, and weaker branches may break off if too many fruits accumulate at one site."
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26th February 2010 9:13pm
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Violet_Cactus says...
BABACO RECIPES (from the Internet):
Harvesting the Fruit
"The fruit should be harvested at the first sign of yellowing. It will ripen off the plant and has a long shelf-life, keeping for up to a month. The fruit is ripe and ready to eat when it is uniformly yellow."
"Babaco is best appreciated when cooked with a little sugar, as it is a bit bland when raw. Dulce de babaco, an easy recipe using just three ingredients, is one of the most popular ways Ecuadorians enjoy this papaya-like fruit."
Babaco in Syrup (Dulce de babaco)
Ingredients:
* 1 whole babaco, peeled and cubed
* 1 – 1 ½ cup white sugar
* 2 cups water
* 1 stick of cinnamon
* 2 tbs orange juice (optional)
Procedure:
1. Put all of the ingredients in a large Dutch oven and let boil on medium heat for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally.
2. Remove the cinnamon stick and let cool.
3. Serve cool or cold. Refrigerate any unused portions for up to five days.
Serve as a delicious topping for ice cream, or plain as a simple, refreshing dessert after a large meal.
Note:
Our favourite by far is the above recipe, substituting cardamom instead of cinnamon, and leaving out the orange juice.
Babaco Juice
Babaco juice is also common in Ecuador, since it is very economical (the plant can produce from 25 to 100 fruits a year).
Procedure
1. Put ½ babaco fruit, cut and peeled, in a blender with 4 cups of water.
2. Add 1 cup of white sugar (adjust amount if necessary) and blend until smooth. Serve immediately.
Babaco in Lemon Juice
Although Ecuadorians tend to eat babaco cooked, it may also be eaten raw. This recipe can be whipped up in less than five minutes, no cooking involved.
Ingredients
* 1 babaco fruit, peeled and cubed (remove any seeds)
* 3 small limes (key lime is best)
* 1 ½ cups white sugar
Procedure
1. Squeeze the lime juice over the cut babaco. Stir in sugar.
2. Let rest for a couple of hours and then serve at room temperature.
Pie filling
Babaco can be substituted for half of any fruit portion in a fruit pie. It pairs well with apples and strawberries. Because it is very tender and juicy, it releases more water than apples as it bakes, so adding a little bit more cornstarch to the recipe can help counteract this.
BABACO RECIPES (from the Internet):
Harvesting the Fruit
"The fruit should be harvested at the first sign of yellowing. It will ripen off the plant and has a long shelf-life, keeping for up to a month. The fruit is ripe and ready to eat when it is uniformly yellow."
"Babaco is best appreciated when cooked with a little sugar, as it is a bit bland when raw. Dulce de babaco, an easy recipe using just three ingredients, is one of the most popular ways Ecuadorians enjoy this papaya-like fruit."
Babaco in Syrup (Dulce de babaco)
Ingredients:
* 1 whole babaco, peeled and cubed
* 1 – 1 ½ cup white sugar
* 2 cups water
* 1 stick of cinnamon
* 2 tbs orange juice (optional)
Procedure:
1. Put all of the ingredients in a large Dutch oven and let boil on medium heat for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally.
2. Remove the cinnamon stick and let cool.
3. Serve cool or cold. Refrigerate any unused portions for up to five days.
Serve as a delicious topping for ice cream, or plain as a simple, refreshing dessert after a large meal.
Note:
Our favourite by far is the above recipe, substituting cardamom instead of cinnamon, and leaving out the orange juice.
Babaco Juice
Babaco juice is also common in Ecuador, since it is very economical (the plant can produce from 25 to 100 fruits a year).
Procedure
1. Put ½ babaco fruit, cut and peeled, in a blender with 4 cups of water.
2. Add 1 cup of white sugar (adjust amount if necessary) and blend until smooth. Serve immediately.
Babaco in Lemon Juice
Although Ecuadorians tend to eat babaco cooked, it may also be eaten raw. This recipe can be whipped up in less than five minutes, no cooking involved.
Ingredients
* 1 babaco fruit, peeled and cubed (remove any seeds)
* 3 small limes (key lime is best)
* 1 ½ cups white sugar
Procedure
1. Squeeze the lime juice over the cut babaco. Stir in sugar.
2. Let rest for a couple of hours and then serve at room temperature.
Pie filling
Babaco can be substituted for half of any fruit portion in a fruit pie. It pairs well with apples and strawberries. Because it is very tender and juicy, it releases more water than apples as it bakes, so adding a little bit more cornstarch to the recipe can help counteract this.
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26th February 2010 9:21pm
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Violet_Cactus says...
John, Babaco fruits take up to two years to ripen. With our first tree we couldn't believe how long it took and thought there must be something wrong. Now we're used to it.
Melbourne winters never bother them at all. Up there in NSW you should have no problems whatsoever during the cooler months.
Yes Jujube, they are nice trees of John's!
Gardener, I have also made Babaco Jam and Babaco marmalade, using the usual recipes plus lemon peel and lemon juice to add pectin. Delicious!
John, Babaco fruits take up to two years to ripen. With our first tree we couldn't believe how long it took and thought there must be something wrong. Now we're used to it.
Melbourne winters never bother them at all. Up there in NSW you should have no problems whatsoever during the cooler months.
Yes Jujube, they are nice trees of John's!
Gardener, I have also made Babaco Jam and Babaco marmalade, using the usual recipes plus lemon peel and lemon juice to add pectin. Delicious!
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denise says...
Because they flower and start fruiting from the top of the plant they can get top heavy and break.Once they reach 1.8 meters angle cut the stem down at 50 to 75cms.Wash all sap off the cut to avoid rot and watch out for snails that chew into the cut.Days before taking cuttings,cut the leafstalks 5cms out from the stem and leave them to shrivel off and the stem heals and avoids rot that would destroy cuttings. Also after taking cuttings-let the wound dry a coupla days to harden up before growing.
Because they flower and start fruiting from the top of the plant they can get top heavy and break.Once they reach 1.8 meters angle cut the stem down at 50 to 75cms.Wash all sap off the cut to avoid rot and watch out for snails that chew into the cut.Days before taking cuttings,cut the leafstalks 5cms out from the stem and leave them to shrivel off and the stem heals and avoids rot that would destroy cuttings. Also after taking cuttings-let the wound dry a coupla days to harden up before growing.
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John Mc says...
From memory, Daley's graft their Babaco's onto another rootstock. I have a spare Babaco from Daley's and I can see a thickening of the trunk just above ground level, before it thins into the main trunk. Sooo, just for fun, I've cut the Babaco so I have only the rootstock above ground. It will be interesting to see what sprouts from this rootstock, if anything.
I bought 7 or 8 Babaco's from a nursery closing down last winter. I think the nurseryman thought they were all frost bitten. There was only the trunk left. I knew better. He let me have them all for $5 each. Some that were really bad he gave them to me for free. Woohoo, their all going great guns now.
From memory, Daley's graft their Babaco's onto another rootstock. I have a spare Babaco from Daley's and I can see a thickening of the trunk just above ground level, before it thins into the main trunk. Sooo, just for fun, I've cut the Babaco so I have only the rootstock above ground. It will be interesting to see what sprouts from this rootstock, if anything.
I bought 7 or 8 Babaco's from a nursery closing down last winter. I think the nurseryman thought they were all frost bitten. There was only the trunk left. I knew better. He let me have them all for $5 each. Some that were really bad he gave them to me for free. Woohoo, their all going great guns now.
John Mc
Warnervale NSW
5th March 2010 8:50pm
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Violet_Cactus
Melbourne
5th March 2010 9:51pm
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