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Jared starts with ... This is my Black Sapote situated on an easterly aspect in Goonellabah in a frost free area. I have 20+ different fruit trees and huge range of ornamentals which are all growing a good rate but this sapote has really done nothing it was planted almost half a year ago and the lavenders interplanted in the orchard area has grown taller then it. What am I doing wrong? they get regular watering and feed with organic fertlizer and the area is regularly kept mulched. Is the plant not really suited for this area or something? I know the Wollongbar tafe that I attend have one growing but I dont know what/if attention it gets as Im in the landscape area not ag-culture area.
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ScottG says... I have a Black Sapote in a similar spot in my garden on the Gold Coast. It is a seedling and after 7 years is only 2m tall. But this year it produced its first fruit (poor quality because of lack of water). Mine has one or two growth spurts in the year and the drought has played a big part in limiting its size. It seems to me that they require LOTS of water (by Gold Coast standards) to flourish. Yours may just not have had an annual growth spurt yet and/or still be recovering from the transplant. | About the Author Scott G Nerang 21st June 2007 4:14pm #UserID: 44 Posts: 117 View All Scott G's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Frost free Goonellabah? The climate is changing. Perhaps you live in my family's one time beautiful old farm house on top of the range where frosts drain away downhill. Just perfect for those westerlies to whip through the cracks on a winter night. Seriously, give your tree time. Many trees spend ages sending down roots to a water table. Then they grow fast. The water table used to be 10m below the valley floor in Goonellabah. Possibly more now with the dry. I have 3 black sapotes. None have moved for the first few years. The drought has made this much worse by dropping the local water table by 10m | About the Author anonymous4 22nd June 2007 8:31pm #UserID: 92 Posts: 2 View All anonymous4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bazza says... For Jared, Do not be concernd after only 6 months. My tree has been in ground for 5 yrs now and hopefuly bearing now for the first time even though it has flowered twice before. At the moment it is covered with hundreds of flowers turning to small (pea size) dark green fruit. As you may see from photo i have pruned the Sapote to suit the corner area maybe holding it back a season from fruiting? All The Best Bazza
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Correy says... Those are fantastic pictures Bazza. I am very keen to get a black sapote, I tasted one from tropical fruit world and it was one of the best fruits I have tasted. I wouldn't say it was exactly like chocolate pudding but I could see why they would say that. The one I had was about the same size as an apple but they are full of the pudding like flesh. I thought there would be seeds in them but there wasn't you could just eat the whole thing. Skin as well if you were keen...like me :) | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 13th August 2007 4:04pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Siafu says... Hi, Bazza, your new picture also shows a white sapote (Casimiroa edulis) or a similar species like the yellow sapote/matasano (Casimiroa tetrameria). Black sapote is in a diferent genus ( Diospyros ). In fact, it is a tropical relative of the common persimmon. The bark of the Black sapote is almot black, while the bark of the white sapote is grey with small white "bumps". Moreover, black sapotes have simple leaves while white sapote has compound leaves, as shown in your picture. | About the Author Algarve, Portugal 26th August 2007 3:59am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott G says... For reference here are a couple of photos of my 7 yr old seedling Black Sapote. Branches as thick as a thumb were dead right the way through after a single frost. These photos were taken 5 weeks after the frost. There is still hope. PS: It produced its first fruit last summer.
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Sandy says... I bought a black sapote from daley's and it's doing ok, along the fence, I am watching it, as the weather down here, is colder. I have mine planted with lots of organic mulch and a medium loamy soil. All our kitchen scraps, guinea pig poo and straw, cow manure all gets mixed in. Our black sapote, or choc pudding tree gets the afternoon sun, facing a brick wall on the garage. Maybe try more mulching or manure. | About the Author Sandy2 melbourne, Victoria 25th September 2007 7:38pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jared says... Unfortunately my sapote didnt live through the winter, we got only ONE frost all winter, which was mild when compared with most of the lismore region that got hit very hard, but it wasnt just the frost, that was just the last straw for the poor plant. We think it may not have liked being in such nutrient rich soil, as that section had been prepared for the citrus trees, so had a lot of well rotted and dug in horse manure as well as homemade compost dug into it. We also lost the lychee tree, but that was a combination of dog digging it out to chew on (need barbed wire to keep some plants alive with this dog) and then it had just started to revive from the dog adventure when the frost hit. However all the other citrus (9 in total), stonefruit (3), mango tree and vegi patch etc, survived and are all doing well, most of them have their first crop just starting (i pinched the flowers off last year to get them some growth first). We plan to get another sapote and plant it near the mango and stone fruits as the ground there wasnt as prepared as the citrus area. Oh well, it is trial and error here, thats part of the fun of gardening. | About the Author Jared Goonellabah 2nd October 2007 1:20am #UserID: 17 Posts: 6 View All Jared's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Melanie says... I have Black Sapote growing in Sydney. It's about 2 years old. I was wanting to know whats the best treatment of the tree besides keeping it shelted from the frost (which we don't have much). It's doing quite well but some branches have turned black and fallen off, not sure if it's ok! Still has growth and have notice some new growth on it reasently. | About the Author Melanie Sydney 15th November 2007 11:01am #UserID: 429 Posts: 4 View All Melanie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandy says... Could be! I meant to say mine is planted on the western side of the garden, but actually gets the morning/midday sun. It's in shade rest of the day. I have lots of compost in the soil, and I water it every second day. As we have water restrictions here. never had a black sapote before, so unsure why the leaves are black. | About the Author Sandy2 melbourne, Victoria 17th November 2007 5:46pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Adrianna says... I have killed 2 trees they just slowly got smaller and died. I bought another one and tried a different site added lots of mushroom compost its on the NW side of the block in the orchard has a little protection from some large gums but it seems to be powering now. I have attached photo.
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Scott G says... From what I have seen, Black Sapotes need lots of water to flourish. While they seem to be reasonably hardy for a fruit tree but don’t expect good growth or good fruit without good water. I would assume good soil also helps. I have grown my seedling (from fruit I ate) for the last 7 years. The first few years were a little tough on it in a pot. The soil in the pot got a bit hot in the sun and it occasionally got too dry. Next was the year of the transplant and it took a bit to get settled. The last 3 years have been drought. It produced 2 small poor quality fruit in its 7th year. That winter it got a rare freak frost that reduced it to a stump. But it appears to be on the mend. It is growing in an area that also has a mango, pomelo, guava, wampi, grumichama, hill gooseberry, passionfruit, acerola cherry, white sapote and a camito. All of which have out performed it. But it is doing no harm where it is so it can stay. | About the Author Scott G Gold Coast 22nd November 2007 1:05pm #UserID: 44 Posts: 117 View All Scott G's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandy says... I have taken a pic of the cherries that are left, that came from our stella cherry tree. here were 19 all together. I ate some earlier, yum yum. jucy and sweet! Hope we get some more soon. The tree is only about 3 years old. The black sapote I have does not use bore water, either tap or rain water.
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Mark Wiersema says... I was just wondering if the Black Sapote is able to grow in SA, if kept in a full north sun position with protection from wind, and set along side other Citrus for added protection in Winter?
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Correy says... Hi Mark, For ideal conditions for a black sapote you need moist well drained soil in a warm and sheltered position. They are a bit tollerant to wind but are frost sensitive. Here is the tag for it: http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Black-Sapote-Chocolate-Pudding-Fruit.htm The Black Sapote is currently equal 3rd most popular fruit tree Daleys Sends to South Australia. Third to the Miracle Fruit and Ceylon Hill Gooseberry. It is equal third with the Sapodilla. | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 8th January 2008 11:48am #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandy says... Oh dear, alas, my poor old black Sapote "has gone to God", as Don Burke would say! I nursed it, and fed it, and waterd it, but it has just about carked it. just 2 leaves left on that are green. rest are black and stems are looking brittle. We have been on hols. to merimbula, for 2 weeks. Maybe something happened while we were not home. | About the Author Sandy2 melbourne, Victoria 9th January 2008 2:20pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Adrianna Cooper says... Hi Sandy, Its sounds a little like colar rot did you make sure the root ball wasnt burried too deep up the stem. This happened to my Tamirillo i re potted it to deep it went real well for a couple of weeks then all of a sudden the leaves started to drop and then as you said gone to god. | About the Author Adrianna Cooper Logan Village 10th January 2008 6:18am #UserID: 224 Posts: 17 View All Adrianna Cooper's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John says... I found my black sapotes leaves went black when they were bruised, wind or heat effected and the frosts burnt them. To get growth out of them took aleast forty litres about 2 to 3 times a week. Due to my poor soils, i have to feed monthly, for which pot ash is more important for fast growth as is trace elements here where i am. I carnt wait for is fruit, if that happens for they are nice to eat. But its a nice tree to sit and watch while having a barbe. | About the Author John10 SB South Australia 17th February 2008 2:44pm #UserID: 549 Posts: 127 View All John10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandy says... My black sapote has come good. I pruned it back a little, and it has new growth, I have been givingit more "grey water" as well as from the hose. I added some chook manure to the soil as well, as it's clay underneath the dry topsoil. The Yacon I have is growing like crazy, just up from the fig tree, I have in. | About the Author Sandy2 melbourne, Victoria 19th February 2008 1:40pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott G says... 6 months after a freak frost reduced my black sapote to a stump (see pics in a previous post above) it has recovered. Lots of rain (more than it has ever had) has done wonders for it. It now has more leaves and looks healthier than it ever has. The difference lots of water has made is really significant.
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Adrianna Cooper says... Your tree lis looking great I know where you are coming from, my tree looks very much like your and yes I think it was all the rain we have had and also the mild summer we have had might have helped as well. We still need a lot more rain to carry us into the Autumn and Winter months Adrianna | About the Author Adrianna Cooper Logan Village 12th March 2008 6:55am #UserID: 224 Posts: 17 View All Adrianna Cooper's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott G says... I grew mine in a pot for a few years. Black Sapotes are supposed to do well in a wide variety of soil types. If you are going to buy potting mix I would get the best stuff you can find (costing the most) and add plenty of water retaining granules. Cover with mulch. They love water. Some naturally grew in areas that got partially flooded. Depending on how often you water it, you might consider putting a water tray under the pot. I'm not sure how susceptible they are to root rot though. Most people's stories seem to agree with my scenario. Lots of water is the only way to keep them healthy. If your climate doesn't suit them then you need to treat them well to get something in return. | About the Author Scott G The Gold Coast 13th March 2008 9:20am #UserID: 44 Posts: 117 View All Scott G's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott G says... My plant dropped its flowers for the first 2 years it flowered. That was in the drought. I am not sure if it was just too young to fruit or if it wasn't getting enough water. I think it might have been a combination of both. They need loads of water to produce good fruit - especially if you are on sandy soil. | About the Author Scott G The Gold Coast 31st March 2008 6:10pm #UserID: 44 Posts: 117 View All Scott G's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Larry says... Hi Ros, I have got one in a wine barrel and it is doing very well. Make sure your drainage is good and give it heaps of water. Since i started flooding mine it has really taken off with new shoots and leaves, even in our current winter. Fertilise with blood and bone that has got potash included with it as this strengthens the cell walls and should help it against frost. I see that you are in new zealand so what i suggest is although you keep it outside make sure it is under cover. Mine is under a patio that has roof sheeting that still allows filtered sunlight through. Hope this helps | About the Author Larry perth 23rd May 2008 10:34am #UserID: 970 Posts: 9 View All Larry's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lachlann says... I plonked my black sapote in under a paperbark tree and it has taken off vigorously. I wonder if it is adapted to growing in semi-shade as a young tree and too much sun and high temperatures may be detrimental. It has a mulch of paperbark leaf litter, even temperatures, moderate water and only gently fertilized with some osmocote in the planting hole. I plan on removing the paperbark when the black sapote needs the space.. | About the Author Lachlann1 South Coast, NSW 3rd June 2008 10:15pm #UserID: 277 Posts: 12 View All Lachlann1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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David Coulthurst says... hi all I have a black sapote tree and suddenly (over night) all the leaves fell off even though there wern't many leaves to start with and the ends of the small branches and the main stem is starting to get wrinkley and i have had no growth at all in the 4 months that i have had it planted. It is planted in the field in full sun with other tropical fruit trees (which are all going great including a white sapote as well) and i give it heaps of water every second day and liquid fertilizer about once every fortnight (seasol) as well as cow manure and slow release fertalizers. I live in Darwin, can anyone please help me? | About the Author David Coulthurst Darwin NT 8th September 2008 9:19am #UserID: 1330 Posts: 1 View All David Coulthurst's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Debbie says... Hi, I wonder if someone could help me? I recently recieved my black sapote from daleys (it arrived in wonderful condition) I soaked it in water and seasol for approx 20 minutes then transplanted it into the gound the next day, I used plenty of manure and soil improver into the hole and mulched with bark. It is retriculated for half an hour a day and is protected by shade cloth, it has been in the ground for about 5 days, when today I noticed about 6 leaves had dropped off it and the new shoots at the end of the branches had shriveled. I am worried that it will not survive, even though the rest of the plant seems ok so far, do they suffer transplant shock? and will it come back fully? Could someone offer me some advice??? many thanks | About the Author debra Geraldton western australia 15th September 2008 8:04pm #UserID: 1368 Posts: 5 View All debra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steve says... Debbie - how's the black sapote? I noticed you posted a while back. I was wondering if it was too wet. My tree grew fast & is a heavy cropper with no pests or problems in the 8yrs it's been growing. It gets no special treatment except all my trees are heavily mulched to the drip line & fertilized about three times per year. It only received a little water when young as it was stressed with summer heat & drought conditions, but now relies only on rain & appears very healthy. | About the Author Steve12 Coffs Harbour 5th January 2009 9:49pm #UserID: 1818 Posts: 5 View All Steve12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Debbie says... Hi Steve, thank you for replying to my post. I seem to be having some success with my Sapote now, the leaves have stopped falling and I have a lot of new growth, I am presuming that it was just suffering from a small amount of transplant shock when the leaves were falling off. The only problem I am having at them moment is the hot winds we are getting, (it is 30-40+ degrees at the moment. How long did it take for your tree to grow before it began to fruit? and should I let it fruit or remove the first lot? I have the plant in the chook pen along with 6 or 7 other fruit trees, they are all protected by wire from the chooks but it is great because they keep the weeds down and supply great fertilizer. | About the Author debra Geraldton Western Australia 18th January 2009 2:03am #UserID: 1368 Posts: 5 View All debra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steve says... I can't recall exactly when it first cropped, but it was very earlier I think in the second year. I wouldn't worry about removing the fruit unless the tree looks stressed. I removed all the fruit in the first two years with my citrus trees, but it was during drought times & I wanted to give the roots a chance to establish. With the Black sapote, it's never looked crook during wet or dry periods, never had any kind of pest or disease. It's been the perfect fruit tree. | About the Author Steve12 Coffs Harbour 21st January 2009 1:00pm #UserID: 1818 Posts: 5 View All Steve12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... I have 2 different varieties of black sapote trees the ricks late and the bernicker. They both fruited early. I pulled most of the fruit off except for one in the first 2 years and the one that I left looks to be ripening very nicely. They take ages to be properly formed it is a real marathon for them to produce the fruit. Both are looking very healthy. | About the Author Correy Brisbane, Woolloongabba 21st January 2009 5:51pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lotte says... Don't know what to say, except that my Black Sapote has not been fertilised in the 3 years we have lived here (Brisane), it's never been watered, there's grass growing right up to the trunk, yet it still produces almost pumpkin sized fruit year in, year out. I don't much like the taste of the fruit though - remind me too much of dog poo! | About the Author Lotte Brisbane 24th January 2009 2:30pm #UserID: 1914 Posts: 2 View All Lotte's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steve says... Lotte - Both mine & your trees seem to thrive on neglect - like I posted earlier, the perfect fruit tree...if you like the taste. I find the taste bland, but in recipes they are used as a chocolate subsitute. If eating just the fruit pulp, I find adding a little dash of liqueur makes a big differance to the taste. | About the Author Coffs Harbour 14th February 2009 11:02am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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stu says... My tree has been in 18 months. It is grafted. It is now about 5foot tall and dropped pea sized fruit this year. I wasn't too concerned due to it flowering the first time and the season we have had being very dry. Try the mulch from the tip at $11 a metre. Dead set kicked all my trees on when that was applied. Also try aminogro which is a foliar fertilizer. I hit my sapote when I did my citrus etc and it jumped. Get it from any rural buying type store. | About the Author stu north coast nsw 19th February 2009 10:42pm #UserID: 1995 Posts: 3 View All stu's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Robyn says... Hi I have a black sapote growing very happily, so far anyway, no fruit yet. I have planted it on a north facing slope just on the edge of a large jacaranda tree which provides some protection. It LOVES water - the more the better, with all the rain lately it has nearly doubled it size. Would definetly give it a go | About the Author msjekyll Sydney north side 12th April 2009 7:53pm #UserID: 1926 Posts: 3 View All msjekyll's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandy says... Hi, My Fig tree, I have growing in the same area as the black Sapote, is growing really well! So is the Yacon, both bought from Daley's. K1, coffee, plus 2 strawberry guavas, and 2 apple trees are ok. The hazelnut tree, Ennis, I have left, was going good before, now it looks bare, I guess the colder weather makes it look that way. Any hints for fertilising it? | About the Author Sandy2 melbourne, Victoria 16th April 2009 5:32pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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randey says... hello sandy, i dont know if i should tell you about my black sapote. i live in perth ( a little more temperate than melbourne). the tree is 4 metres high and lives next to a brick wall and receives a handful of fertiliser once a year and i dont even know if the retic to it still works. even after all that neglect it has over 50 fruit on it. when the last fruit has fallen the new flowers start to appear within days. i think it has found its niche in the garden and if i do anything different to it it would probably pack up and drop dead. oh by the way the fruit looks and tastes like chocolate mousse. good luck . | About the Author randey perth 16th May 2009 9:17am #UserID: 2306 Posts: 104 View All randey's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Justin says... You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27 To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream. Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try. | About the Author Justin Melbourne 20th May 2009 12:20pm #UserID: 1041 Posts: 30 View All Justin's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Justin says... You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27 To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream. Have never seen the fruit anywhere in Melbourne. Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try. | About the Author Justin Melbourne 20th May 2009 12:22pm #UserID: 1041 Posts: 30 View All Justin's Edible Fruit Trees |
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randey says... gee where to start. try daleys website for starters,also there a few nurseries around perth and the suburbs that carry a reasonable variety of tropical and sub tropical fruit trees. just remember that after all the work to get them established and fruiting the chooks are going to have to wait. why not do a trade with them , their poo for the scraps | About the Author randey perth 22nd July 2009 7:58pm #UserID: 2306 Posts: 104 View All randey's Edible Fruit Trees |
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karrynmac says... My black sapote is in the garden on the right - only about 6.2ft - yet I get about 200+- fruit a season. I water weekly, when the fruit is setting you need to step the watering up, I use seaweed or fish liquid fert, I harvest all the seeds for sale on eBay. Easy to grow, 3years to first fruit, first season fruit will be sparse but every year after that you'll get more and more. This photo is from the Gold Coast, I left the tree there and have plans to start planting again here in the Darling Downs.
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Sandy says... Hi everyone, windy down here! I am not doing much ingarden at moment. My daughter is getting a flat in backyard, and everywhere is a bit of a mess! I'm thinking of buying a 2fruit citrus tree, to put in a large pot, might get a lemon with a orange, as I have a lime already. Not much ground space left for anything else really! I'd like to have fresh citrus, but never grown one in a container, any hints on growing? | About the Author Sandy2 Melbourne, Victoria 24th August 2009 2:35pm #UserID: 281 Posts: 69 View All Sandy2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wondering says... Anyone! My Black Sapote is a Rick's late and for the 2 seasons it's been in the ground it has dropped it's flower buds, when it was first planted it struggled due to a too soggy clay area, so we lifted it and built it up on a mound. Seems to be doing better, but the leaves are yellowing with green veins, what type of deficiency is this? When should I fertilize and what should I use? | About the Author LOS Newcastle 13th October 2009 11:20am #UserID: 2896 Posts: 1 View All LOS's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Justin says... Recently I've seen black sapote fruit being sold in various places in Melbourne. One is David Jones in the city (occassionally), and also some Asian markets. They're from Tropical Fruit World, so I guess their trees are getting more established and producing enough fruit to distribute. Had a few of them in September and October. Have just bought and planted a seedling black sapote from Daleys. Chose a seedling in the hope that it will tolerate the marginal climate of Melbourne. It's too early to comment on how it's doing, but if anything exciting happens I'll post it here. | About the Author Justin Melbourne 19th November 2009 1:54pm #UserID: 2526 Posts: 24 View All Justin's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Adam T says... Hi all! i've just placed an order in for 2 longans, 1 cherimoya and a black sapote. a bit ambitious for melbourne? i'm only trying my luck because i've actually raised jackfruit from seed and they've survived 1 winter already. I just placed some thick plastic bag over the top of them as soon as autumn gets a bit chilly. The plastic bags cooked some jackfruit, so i now make sure covered potplants are placed under semishade. i also swear by CHARCOAL! 2 handfulls of charcoal soaked in fish emulsion for about 2 days, and placed into the planting mix makes plants explode (into growth). i uploaded a pic of my coffee plant which got roasted one summer, and its now living happily indoors and flowering amazingly thanks to the charcoal. Regards, Adam
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snow says... I too have a sapote growing in Perth WA it is about 12 years old and flowers profusely in late spring early summer but all of the flowers fall this year it appears that I have one green ball about the size of a golf ball. I have tried various fertilisers, dynamic lifter, NPK Blue, and furit and flower etc. I even resorted a couple of years ago to cutting it back vigorusly and finally the one golf ball. Thanks Eric | About the Author snow 12th February 2010 6:18pm #UserID: 3374 Posts: 7 View All snow's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Debbie says... I wrote to this forum a while ago worried about my black sapote, as it was yellowing and leaves were turning black and falling of. Since then my tree is about 1 1/2 metres tall and is beautiful and green , the trunk is very thick and it sems to be thriving (touch wood it will continue) I have it in the chook pen, so there are no weeds around it, and it is reticulated so it gets daily watering, I also have wire around it and shade cloth to protect it from our damaging winds and the harsh sun, I feed it occasionally with liquid fertaliser and bags of mushroom compost and farm manure, as yet I havent had any flowers or fruit, but I am waiting patiently for the day it happens. I have been reading this forum regularly and find it very interesting to see how other people are going with their black sapote's as well. I am considering buying more after the success of this one (might wait a bit longer though 'just in case')I have added some before after photos so you can see the difference in growth in just 6 months. | About the Author debra Geraldton WA 16th February 2010 1:50pm #UserID: 1368 Posts: 5 View All debra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snow says... Hi Debbie, My Sapote is about 12 years old and stands about three metres tall and would have been taller if I had not given it a severe pruning about two years ago because I had tried all the fertilisers and was getting masses of flowers and no fruit but...... believe it or not I have one round green golf ball looking fruit right at the top of the tree. | About the Author snow 4th March 2010 5:38pm #UserID: 3374 Posts: 7 View All snow's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I have two Black Sapote seedlings, one in ground and one in pot. The one in ground is about 1.7m and the one in pot is a bit over 1.5m. They are fantastic looking trees, but I was wondering if I should perhaps dig the planted one out of the ground and replace it with a grafted variety? I love the tree, but dont really want to wait 5-plus years for the fruit to set... I already have a Jaboticaba and Beach Cherry to wait on! I could always transplant that one to my father's rainforest... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 10th April 2010 8:09pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Adam T says... My black sapote is doing well. i got mine in december 2009, and i immediately planted it into a large pot. The numerous posts on this blog about shedding leaves, sick plants and poor fruiting, worried me. so i made sure it got extra attention. the minute i got it, i cut 1/4 off the plant to make it sprout more branches. the gamble worked and it now has 3 healthy branches, that grew 60 cm in 4 months. it then grew about 20 flowers but i nipped them off to save the energy for branching. My tip is 2 cups of charcoal mixed during the potting process, chicken manure tea (monthly), AND MOST IMPORTANT: Pine Needle Mulch --> saved my plant during the summer. rarely needs watering thanks to the needles (always heaps of bugs and worms underneath). good luck from melbourne | About the Author Adam T Melbourne 28th April 2010 7:30pm #UserID: 3121 Posts: 3 View All Adam T's Edible Fruit Trees |
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epiphany says... As an aside to this...I'm wondering if anyone has had a seedling fruit & how it compares in favour to a named variety? I have a seedling black sapote that has done well this year (it did the black stalk thing when it first went in but it's recovered well & has put on some growth) & now also have a grafted Bernicker that is currently sitting in a pot. I'm wondering if I should replace the seedling with the Bernicker & give the seedling away to a friend or if I should keep both & grow the Bernicker in a large pot? Can anyone advise on the difference in taste? Thanks! | About the Author epiphany2 Melbourne 7th July 2010 8:08pm #UserID: 703 Posts: 84 View All epiphany2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Hi Epiphany, I have a similar conundrum, I have two fantastic looking seedling Black Sapotes powering along (one in ground, one in pot) for about 2 years now - about 1.7m tall. I also have younger Bernicker and Maher in smaller pots. I wanted to ask anyone weather its worth saving the two existing plants, as they are growing really well? Could they be used to graft on pieces of the Maher for example? I'd hate to just get rid of something that is growing so well, but if it is going to grow too large or produce really poor quality fruit, then It may find itself rotated into the green waste come spring. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 8th July 2010 1:18pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Yes, some I have tasted were like mud, but in a smoothie they did taste very much like chocolate, even the mud varieties. I have tasted a few that were absolutley superb fresh, espcially with a little added brandy or cognac. Hence my dillema as whether to remove or graft the existing seedlings, which will more than likely be rubbish. As a side note, I bought some enormous ones from Rusty's Market and left them for ages to ripen up, but they didn't get soft at all, even after weeks of paper bag banana treatments. When I cut them apart they were whitish-yellow, and completely inedible! | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 8th July 2010 4:06pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ron says... I have a tree here in Grafton possibly 5 years old bears fruit every year,and it's as tall as the house, I pick the fruit and take it inside to rippen (when it goes brown and soft and sqishy) cut it in half sprinkle sugar or sweetener over it, I admit it doesn't taste like Cadburys but it does taste very nice | About the Author Ron Grafton NSW 8th August 2010 5:32pm #UserID: 149 Posts: 7 View All Ron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Beryl & Fred says... We have one Black Sapote, Yellow Sapote, and White Sapote trees growing - not big enough yet to fruit, but we have had a ton [a crate of 99] of Black Sapote given to us. The fruit has to be really ripe to be eaten straight from the skin, but I have made Muffins, Cakes, IceCream, Sauces, and even dried the pulp - decadent - just to die for. I freeze the pulp [in 1 cup size containers], and when I want to make scones or muffins, I just thaw out and use. I am always being asked for my 'special' scones. | About the Author Fred1 Airville, Qld 27th August 2010 8:24pm #UserID: 4156 Posts: 2 View All Fred1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... My seedling black sapote has been growing for a year in a pot. Its about 1.5m tall and is currently flowering quite alot. I wansnt sure if this was normal, so I went down to the local nursery to have a look and many of their plants are in flower now as well. And I thought these things took ages to get to flower and fruit?
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Maree says... I am glad I saw your post. I am thinking of trying to grow one in Wangaratta but I thought that we were too far down south. I would like to know what position they like and if they need morning or afternoon shade for example. How much protection do they need from frost? have not had any luck finding these things out on the net. | About the Author Maree2 Wangaratta 21st November 2010 1:03pm #UserID: 4576 Posts: 1 View All Maree2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Jackie French has a mature black sapote tree growing in her garden in the Araluen valley near Braidwood, NSW. The temperature in winter sometimes drops to well below zero and frosts are common. How she keeps that tree growing I have no idea. I wish I knew her secret. I have some seedlings growing in pots under lights (seedlings are more fragile than mature trees, I know).I put them in out the garden here in Melbourne, - the weather was relatively balmy - and within a few days their leaves started turning black and shrivelling. They're back indoors now. They may have to be indoor plants forever... | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 28th November 2010 11:51am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Hi Violet_Cactus , Slowly does it. They seem to be very sensitive. Why don't you try very very filtered light and very gradually move them out into more and more light? BTW, are they from the same batch of seedlings you sent me? The leaves started to shrivel up a bit because of too much sun. I placed them into filtered light for a couple of weeks and now they're powering on in (almost)full sun. Phil sent me some seeds as well. I germinated them in almost full sun right from the start and they're performing well with no signs of stress. | About the Author JohnMc1 28th November 2010 2:02pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Hi John, yes my seedlings are from the same batch I sent you. Thanks for the tip about filtered sunlight. Right now they are really flourishing and doing well under lights, but eventually they'll get too big for indoors so I'll move them outside with great care when the weather really warms up. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 28th November 2010 6:00pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ben says... Hi All, i have just ordered a black sapote from Daley's, should arrive next week. Just wanted to canvas this forum about tips on whether to plant or pot it first. If i plant it i am concerned it may be too sensitive still by the time winter rolls around. Hence will not tolerate the colder temps and potential frost. Alternatively do i pot it first so it can mature a bit as a tree first, bringing the pot indoors whenever there might be risk of frsot during winter? And plant it out after a year or so in a pot? Any thoughts on best approach?? | About the Author West Ryde, NSW 1st December 2010 7:00pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... My seedling Black Sapote doesn't look like it will fruit this year. All flowers seem to be clusters of males, not a female to be found. It looks like it might make a decent pollinator tree, but I dont think my little Bernicker really needs one that badly. Ben - keeping it in a pot and gradually introducing it to the climate might be a good way to go. Is yours grafted? If so, definately try the pot thing. The grafts seem to give up quite easily when young. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 3rd December 2010 1:33pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nikki says... My tree is about 3 years old and is starting to flower for the second time. The first time only had one flower which fell off quite quickly - I think this was due to a lack of water. I was getting excited that I might actually (finally) get to try the fruit however googling I think my tree may be male only... If this is so - I would like to get a female tree too but is there any way that I make sure I get a lady?
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Vanessa says... Hi Everyone, I have a grafted Black Sapote about 2 years old and about a metre high growing in a pot. I don't know much about growing these trees, and there isn't much info about it either. But so far I've had good luck with it, since it survived an interstate move and it's still growing. It's about to flower for the second time, it had quite a few flowers on it last year, but they all dropped off about 2 weeks later - not sure if that's due to the lack of water or pollination. Can I add anything to help the flowers stay on this year? Also, it doesn't have much foliage on it, and the branches are very flexible, I'm not sure if it's meant to be like that or it's lacking something. But I would like it to have a bit more foliage on it, is there anything I can add to boost foliage growth? | About the Author Vanessa4 Adelaide 20th December 2010 4:40pm #UserID: 4681 Posts: 1 View All Vanessa4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lachlann says... Ben, I suggest go ahead and put it in the ground, especially now when everything is so warm and damp, but take note of the troubles above so:- 1 Though they like water the roots of just about any tree will die from lack of oxygen if you make it soggy. Slightly damp is quite good enough. Mine has done well with only moderate water. 2 Don't use much fertilizer - you want its roots to go exploring for food - you don't want the leaves burnt with fertilizer. 3 The young trees don't like hot sun. These are rainforest plants. If in doubt put a piece of 50% shadecloth above while it is young. This will also keep off the mild frosts you might have. | About the Author Lachlann South coast,NSW 20th December 2010 9:19pm #UserID: 873 Posts: 33 View All Lachlann's Edible Fruit Trees |
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katrina says... hi steve, i am in the coffs harbour area too. have no luck with my black sapote. plenty of flowers at the moment but they just drop off. have you got more then one tree or other persimmons nearby ? do you hand pollinate or just let nature do the work ? my tree is about 2-3 years old and grafted. thanks katrina
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Ben says... Hi All, ended up planting it in quite a large pot. I thought this way i could move it inside if i thought it was at risk during winter. It's a seedling by the way, so not a grafted variety. Although, so far it has not actually developed any new growth. It has only been about 3 weeks, but i have already started to see new growth on a cherimoya i planted in the ground at the same time. It's currently situated in a westerly position so it receives the hot afternoon sun from mid-day on. Should i be doing anything to stimulate new growth...or just continue to be patient?! | About the Author bspargo West Ryde, NSW 1st January 2011 5:05pm #UserID: 4723 Posts: 31 View All bspargo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Juanita says... I have germinated around 50 guava (strawberry) seeds..paper towel/darkness..took about 6-8 wks. Question: I now have leaves on a number of them however two growing very fast have branched out with a lot of leaves, the other ones are growing straight up with leaves. We have about 15 guava trees that are about 12-14 ft tall and my seeds came from them. I'm just puzzled concerning these two. | About the Author Juanita1 Volusia,Fl zone 9 2nd May 2011 3:37am #UserID: 5247 Posts: 1 View All Juanita1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandra says... Hi, I was wondering if someone could let me know what I'm doing wrong... My black sapote looks fantastic it's about 3 years old, lots of glossy green leaves. I have had some flowers and fruit however the fruit only gets to a maximum of golf ball size and splits. The splits seem to occur when the fruit is quite small. It seems to get enough water and is quite heavily mulched | About the Author Sandra8 Townsville 22nd August 2011 5:41pm #UserID: 5706 Posts: 5 View All Sandra8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandra says... Hi, I was wondering if someone could let me know what I'm doing wrong... My black sapote looks fantastic it's about 3 years old, lots of glossy green leaves. I have had some flowers and fruit however the fruit only gets to a maximum of golf ball size and splits. The splits seem to occur when the fruit is quite small. It seems to get enough water and is quite heavily mulched | About the Author Sandra8 Townsville 22nd August 2011 5:42pm #UserID: 5706 Posts: 5 View All Sandra8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandra says... Hi, I was wondering if someone could let me know what I'm doing wrong... My black sapote looks fantastic it's about 3 years old, lots of glossy green leaves. I have had some flowers and fruit however the fruit only gets to a maximum of golf ball size and splits. The splits seem to occur when the fruit is quite small. It seems to get enough water and is quite heavily mulched | About the Author Sandra8 Townsville 22nd August 2011 5:42pm #UserID: 5706 Posts: 5 View All Sandra8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Sandra that is unusual for black sapotes I have that problem with mandarins,custard apples and other fruit during the wet season when their is a deluge, especially after a dry time.If it is when there is heavy wet season rain then only making sure they get enough water in the lead up will stop them 'over-inflating' and bursting.Is there any problem with the skin prior to splitting? | About the Author Cairns 22nd August 2011 6:06pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... The fruit on my seedling tree is doing the same. The very first two black sapote fruit I've ever produced, slightly larger than golf balls, have split in all directions. I'm hoping next year, with more fruit on the tree, it might not be such a problem, that's my theory anyway. I'm leaving them on the tree hopefully to ripen, maybe I might get a small sample taste. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 22nd August 2011 9:15pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Karrynmac says... Sandra - I find the first time the trees have fruit is usually just a teaser for the next full season. To yourself and John, don't molly coddle them, they do better with less care - keep them out of high winds and in summer keep the water up to them with a good natural liquid fertiliser. The split fruit is still fine to ripen off the tree to eat - if it is large enough. John - take the green fruit off the tree before it ripens at an appropriate size, and they will ripen over a period of days. Don't forget to dry the seeds for planting later. :-) | About the Author Karrynmac1 Pittsworth 25th August 2011 9:24am #UserID: 5711 Posts: 1 View All Karrynmac1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Cool, On a second look one approaching tennis ball size, so I'm assuming I could pick it any time from now? Should I wait till the calyx turns up? Jujube Lucy sent me a couple of beauties a couple of weeks ago and they have got me hooked well and truly. They were absolutely beautiful. I can't wait for mine to ripen. I might have to contact Cape Trib to see if they have a box ready to go. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 25th August 2011 1:15pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandra says... They seem to have this as soon as the fruit starts. We haven't had any stay on the tree long enough to see if they will reach maturity. The splits happen when they are really small and hard and some can be almost to the centre of the fruit. Where the splits occur it seems to try to mend itself and it turns a black colour. Next time I find one I'll take a photo and post it. Oh yeah, we live in Townsville so it's always warm, we have a bore so it gets plenty of water and has a thick layer of mulch at the base. | About the Author Sandra8 Townsville 25th August 2011 5:51pm #UserID: 5706 Posts: 5 View All Sandra8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Your description is like describing mine exactly. How many years has your tree been fruiting for? Mine, for the first time last year, had a few fruit that got to marble size. This year it has held onto two fruits to tennis ball size, but for all the splitting. All the grafted trees are very slow, who knows when I'll see any production from them. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 25th August 2011 6:30pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandra says... This is the second year that it's had fruit. At the moment there are lots of flowers, split golf ball size fruit and ONE that appears to be going ok it's a little larger than a golf ball and has no splits (fingers crossed) at the moment!!! I'll keep you posted. I would love some fruit, but it's such a beautiful tree I'd keep it anyway. The fruit would just be a bonus. | About the Author Sandra8 Townsville 6th September 2011 6:53pm #UserID: 5706 Posts: 5 View All Sandra8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Grant says... Being a little naive i purchased my black sapote from Tropical Fruit World and planted it 14 months ago and it is now over 2m tall and beautiful. But today i discovered that it is not grafted (i can see no evidence of a graft), but is a seedling, it is now flowering for the first time. The flowers are dropping with no fruit setting, which is to be expected i guess. Anyone have any idea how long it takes for a seedling to fruit, and are the chances of the fruit being good quality very high? I was also wondering if it is practical to try and graft a variety to my tree?
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Radi Debney says... My Black Sapote was gift from my daughter and I have never seen tree or tasted fruit. Tree planted about 5 years ago in full sun in not particularly good soil and was watered when buffalo lawn got watered. It did nothing much for a couple of years until we flooded and then it shot up to about 3.5 metres. We dump grass clippings under it and it does not get fertilised or any other special treatment and is extremely healthy. It had a few flowers last year that did not amount to anything but this year has about 12 fruit now about the size of large passionfruit. How long should I leave them on the tree and how will I know when it is time to pick fruit? Any ideas re what to do with the fruit welcome. Cheers. | About the Author Radi 14th January 2012 9:21pm #UserID: 6402 Posts: 3 View All Radi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Grant says... Hi Radi, check out this video from Daley's i think it answer your questions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVVnoBv7Rk I have only eaten them fresh which is great and my 8 month old loves them!! | About the Author Grant Lennox Head 15th January 2012 4:15pm #UserID: 6119 Posts: 156 View All Grant's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Hi Mark, i have one that I had for eighteen months that i thought was slowly dying. I pulled it out and shoved it in a big pot and put it in a fairly sheltered part of my garden and assumed it would just die. The pot was far easier to keep moist, and in only a few months it has put on a bunch of leaves and about 6 fruit. This tree is only about 3 foot high but is looking pretty good now. | About the Author gus 27th February 2012 11:52pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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db says... My black sapote 'Superb' is not growing.. Currently its in 40cm pot, sitting in alfresco where it gets sun only for couple of hours in late afternoon.. I'm watering it every alternate day but still no new growth, leaves are becoming dark blackish green in colour.. Its planted almost 4 weeks back, is it too early to see new growth? What else I can do to promote growth? | About the Author Db Brisbane 12th March 2012 10:40am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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randey says... my black sapote is about 5m tall, is not fertilized and only gets surface watering. as soon as it has fruited it starts setting fruit again. i usually get up to 60-80 fruit per season with the fruit about the size of a large passionfruit. i try to pick them when the colour just starts to change and peel and de-seed them and freeze the pulp in zip-lok baggies. mixed in with a vanilla cake mix produces a cake to die for. also mixing it with partially melted ice cream and then re-freezing it. YUM. | About the Author perth 16th March 2012 10:37pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... Couple of months back I posted above that my black sapote is not growing.. Well, there is still no sign of any new growth.. Since I planted it in 40 cm pot 3-4 months back, I regularly gave it Seasol (once in 2-3 weeks) for roots development, no other fertilizers apart from what is in potting mix..First couple of months it got shade most of the time, 2-3 weeks back I moved this pot in a spot where is gets morning sun till around 12:00pm... I took care not to overwater it.. In spite of my all efforts its still not growing and now it started to deteriorate, one-third of main stem has turned black, one leave has turned complete black and some others has black spots.. Is there anything else I can do to save it and promote growth? | About the Author Db Brisbane 29th May 2012 9:54pm #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... Well, I did give it lot of water in first couple of months, I was watering it once in 4-5 days and pot being under my alfresco soil remained wet/moist during that time (I think I added water crystals as well in potting mix)... It didn't showing any new growth so just 2-3 wks back it moved in spot to get morning sun.. so not sure whats causing it not to grow.. | About the Author Db Brisbane 30th May 2012 9:31am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ron says... All my fruit trees only get water when it rains, I have heavy clay soil, but my B.S fruits every year, some years the fruit is as large as a rock melon, so when the fruit rippens on the tree, it can be dangerous walking under the 6 to 7 meter high tree, as the fruit will drop and splatter on the ground, I try to pick it when the calyx starts to lift around the stem and take it inside to rippen, | About the Author Ron Grafton NSW 1st June 2012 4:14pm #UserID: 149 Posts: 7 View All Ron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... I bought B.S Superb from Daley's around 6 months back and growing it in a pot. It has no new growth at all. Some of the leaves (only top side) and 1/3rd of main stem (its the only stem as tree doesn't have any side branches yet) has turned to complete BLACK.. What could be the reason? any solution? | About the Author Db Brisbane 9th July 2012 9:44am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Grant says... Hi DB, my only thought is whether it is getting enough water. My B. S. has been in (the ground) for around 18 months and it feels like it hasn't stopped raining for more than a couple of days straight. Being in a pot might be a different scenario but my tree behaves like it just cannot get too much water. It's now 3m tall with 11 fruit on it, that seem to take forever to ripen!! | About the Author Grant Lennox Head 11th July 2012 8:48pm #UserID: 6119 Posts: 156 View All Grant's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... Grant, thanks for your reply. I don't think I'm under-watering it. I have added water crystals and Hydro-cell (biodegradable foam flakes to hold water, air and nutrients) into the potting mix. Pot is not mulched yet, so I can see top soil in the pot is always moist/wet, so I think its getting enough water (I water it once a week now a days being winter, in summer it got water after every 2-3 days), it regularly gets Seasol as well.. I think leaves and stem turning black could be some sort of disease which I'm unable to figure out.. Unfortunately I cannot move mine into ground due to space limitation.. Good to know that your tree is doing great, what do you feed yours with? | About the Author Db Brisbane 12th July 2012 8:23am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 13th July 2012 11:52pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... Hi Amanda, I'm also not a fan of water crystals now, I purchased it only once till now and used it in my half of my fruit tree pots... Luckily those fruit trees don't seem to mind it at all and plants are thriving.. But my flower and veggie plants got root rot bcoz of water crystals that I used and they are dying, so I have decided not to use it again ever... Hydro-cell that I used seems to be good though but its costly... | About the Author Db Brisbane 14th July 2012 8:46am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Db says... VF, new growth on mine is same like yours - light green. Plant was very sick since I bought it, probably I didn't choose healthy plant at the time of buying. More than half of the leaves turned black and half of one and only stem also turned black and is still black, not sure what's the issue. I thought it will simply die but i'm happy to new growth. Looks like it flowering as well as I can see tiny buds at each new leaves that are growing. Currently it's in pot, how abt yours VF? Does anyone know if they can grow and fruit well in heavy clay soil? If so, I can transfer it in ground if I can find space. | About the Author Db Brisbane 18th September 2012 7:53am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Ok, light green sounds good then. Sounds like your plant is recovering well, congrats on it flowering too! Mine's been in the ground since late Autumn. Soil is poor where planted(sandy-clay, more sand than clay though if that makes sense), but alot of gypsum, organic material (cheap bags of potting mix), top-soil (bought some) and organic fertiliser dug in and worked together and then let sit for a month under thick cane mulch. Has ended up being about 30cm high mound - texture of soil seems good, and no problems with drainage. | About the Author VF Wongawallan 18th September 2012 11:12pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Grant says... Picked my first ever BS fruit 2 weeks ago and ripened in 13 days, was begining to think i had picked too early but it ripened over night as i read somewhere. Tree is a seedling and has been in for 2 years almost exactly. The fruit was the best i have tasted! Very happy, i'll try and post a pic. | About the Author Grant Lennox Head 25th September 2012 1:47pm #UserID: 6119 Posts: 156 View All Grant's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Katrine, there are several farmers markets a bit north of you, with Kyogle and Lismore possibly being within range as not much further than Grafton. Try http://www.bigvolcano.com.au/active/markets.htm#weekend for further info. As BJ above says F/F sell fruit - I know I've seen them at Bangalow market, they may be elsewhere too. Should mention that the Byron Bay markets have a great variety of seasonal tropical fruits. | About the Author VF Wongawallan 10th October 2012 2:26pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snow says... My problem is how to get the fruit to set. The tree is about 12 years old and has beautiful lush rich growth gets covered in flower but nothing ever sets. It sits between a Longan and mangoe and both have given some grea crops all get the same water and fertiliser regime but no fruit! :-( HELP | About the Author snow Connolly Perth 16th October 2012 4:38pm #UserID: 3374 Posts: 7 View All snow's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brenda says... Hi all, I have a black sapote from Daley's approx 2 years old, twice now the leaves have turned black and fallen off! I want it to grow branches, can I cut it shorter to so it is a trunk only, and hopefully new growth will happen? It is still in a pot and under a shade sail as we get frosts here in Warwick. After reading a lot of the posts here, I am wondering if I should plant it, am hesitant as we lost a black sapote that was planted last year from frost, even though we had covered it. HELP! Thanks, Brenda
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Hayden says... Hi everyone, I have had my black sapote for almost 3 years and it is growing in a big pot. The tree has grow very well to about 2.5m and most of the leaves are green, only a few have gone black which i think is from too much sunlight. My problem is that i can't get the tree to fruit! It has plenty of flowers but i was wondering if the flowers are not getting polinated of if it is caused by a nutrient defiency. Thanks in advance for your help, Hayden | About the Author hayden3 central coast, NSW 4th January 2013 4:41pm #UserID: 7574 Posts: 3 View All hayden3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Hope you don't have a male oriented tree Hayden. A friend of mine from Buttaba (Hi Kathy) has such a tree. I don't know if a young male flower producing tree will eventually produce female flowers, I haven't had that experience, maybe someone here might know. In any case, a three yo tree in our climate, will drop most, if not all it's flowers anyway. Is it possible to plant it out? I'd be Googling for male V's female flowers and match them up to what you have. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 6th March 2013 8:17am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Donna says... Hi Guys im from Perth i was wondering if i can pot a black sapote and if i can what soil/mulch is best etc etc as im currently building a house and dont have much garden front and back? Also can you pot lychee trees? and can anyone suggest other fruiting trees that can survive in pots as well Cheers :) | About the Author Donna Maddington 3rd June 2013 9:01pm #UserID: 8034 Posts: 1 View All Donna 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Patrick-in-Geelong says... Hi, my sapote is developing black areas on leaves, both old and new growth. It's been in full sun but the weather has been cool. Any ideas of cause and treatment? A few people have posted a similar problem but I'm finding it hard to puck a solution - is it cold temperatures? too much sun? not enough sun? not enough water? Anyone had experience fixing this? Cheers Patrick
| About the Author PatrickinGeelong1 Geelong West 11th August 2013 9:24pm #UserID: 8145 Posts: 2 View All PatrickinGeelong1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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SalsaTree says... Hi Hayden and John Mc, My query follows along the line of Hayden's theme about determining the sex of a tree and pollination queries. Any advice you could offer to help me bring this tree to fruit would be most appreciated. Do BS rely on pollination via bees? Could I cross-pollinate? How does one acquire the right pollen? Or are BS a type that self pollinates? Perhaps, I just have to get lucky with a female tree? Or can I persuade it to change sex? This BS was germinated in July 2011; it is just on 2.1 yo. It is in a mighty big pot on an east-facing balcony in Brisbane's CBD. It's a seedling from fruit plucked off my sister's tree and v'dear to me. It hasn't flowered yet, but is sporting some promising buds this spring. It seems happy, healthy and brimming with glossy green leaves. I'm a little worried that expecting it to fruit may be wishful thinking however, since it is solitary on a balcony. I'm thinking of ferrying it to a garden plot during flowering, or collecting pollen from a garden centre's sapote in flower to cross pollinate it. What are your thoughts John Mc? Hayden, how is your BS going?
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SalsaTree says... On a separate point, the same tree (as above) also has these spots. They appeared about 1 year ago and if I look underneath I can see a drop of clear liquid on the underside of the leaf (corresponding precisely with the dots on top of leaves as shown in photos). I have no idea what these dots are. Could they be glands? Sap sucking parasites? Insect bites? I cannot see a pest on it even with a magnifying glass. Could it be something on the root ball? Way more questions than answers I know, but I will appreciate advice as I worry that ignoring it will allow some kind of disease to take hold. Thanks : )
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SalsaTree says... To those that are having trouble with black mould on leaves - don't confuse it with bark forming as I first did. Keep an eye on it and if it is not the fresh green growth growing its bark layer...it could be mould. Bark grows up the trunk and out the branches systematically. Black mould is comparatively random. I have had little patches of which I stayed its progression with 1:20 mix of milk:water. Just rub it over with a cotton ball (on dusk or an overcast day). I use a similar method to control scale on other plants 1:20 mix of hand dish washing liquid:water. That is...the greater portion is water. I have only used the milk method twice on the sapote. On my ferns, mondo grass etc I may soap it every few weeks until the scale problem is under control. I inherited scale from other tenant's plant debris blowing onto my patio. I once sprayed pyrethrum but many worms evacuated the pots over the following days. I think the soap provides a better balance and let's worms furnish the soil and the good microbes take out the less helpful ones. Hope this I is helpful for some : ) | About the Author SalsaTree Brisbane CBD 24th August 2013 3:03pm #UserID: 8173 Posts: 4 View All SalsaTree's Edible Fruit Trees |
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SalsaTree says... Hello Patrick in Geelong, Your plant looks sick. It's going to need some TLC to bring it back. Looks like a systemic issue of unknown origin, but I suspect it has to do with water or temperature. Plant will be happiest between 15-25 degrees, you could simulate/support this with a bit of muscle. If it were mine, this is what I would do. 1. Gently prune off all black leaves (take pressure off plant) 2 Cut off dying top (to remove black but not too far) 3 Repot in fresh potting mix (if suspect about soil) 4 Raise the pot, using pot feet in between pot and base (this will ensure adequate drainage). 5. In winter water once/twice weekly alternating. 6. Water thoroughly until there is water running out and into the saucer/brace under pot. 7. Check to ensure pot is elevated above the water pooling in saucer. 8. Consider putting sapote in a hothouse or observatory like enviro while immature. 9. Alternatively, transport pot/plant outside each morning and bring inside each night (like a dog). If you a lucky it may survive, certainly many posts suggest such miraculous recoveries. If you get it pulls through the winter, you can pat yourself on the back with the knowledge that you won't need to be so labour intensive in future. As it matures, it will toughen up and be more resilient. good luck! | About the Author SalsaTree Brisbane CBD 24th August 2013 3:40pm #UserID: 8173 Posts: 4 View All SalsaTree's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Patrick-in-Geelong says... Hi SalsaTree, thanks for those suggestions, I really appreciate them. I think you're right, it seems to be a temperature/water thing though I'm not sure which one is more the issue. I brought the plant inside so it has been marginally warmer and certainly more protected and I've only put it outside on calm, warmer days. Inside, it isn't in direct sunlight, and I've been giving it a cup of water every day. Whilst the black doesn't seem to have disappeared from any leaves that had it before, there has been plenty of new growth and it is ALL free of the black patches! So I'm counting that as a tentative win. I will remove all the affected areas now as per your suggestion (though the black is definitely no longer spreading) and see how it goes over the next few weeks. Thanks again! I hope others who have had this problem can also get their plant through these challenges. | About the Author PatrickinGeelong1 Geelong West 2nd September 2013 1:47pm #UserID: 8145 Posts: 2 View All PatrickinGeelong1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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2485 says... If you ever want improve the drainage of any plant you will have to add extra potting mix sand/ lawn topping sand/washed filling sand to soil to increase the drying time of soil.The finer the sand the better.Do not use beach or playpit sand may have salt.I have found growing these plants for every bucket of potting mix you will have to add 20 percent sand.Good luck | About the Author AC1 21st September 2013 3:44pm #UserID: 8055 Posts: 103 View All AC1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... I heard of a black sapote die after a fertilizer dump. It was fertilized heavy because the previous fertilizing caused some dieback which was misread as a call for more fertilizer needed rather than less. If you have leaf dieback then maybe you have to stop fertilizer and later give regular small doses. Maybe this happens a lot with many kinds of fruit trees in many different situations. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 4th February 2014 6:16pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Waterfall says... Those with Black Sapote, how do you rate the taste? I have mine in a prime position in the front yard but now that I have ran out of space I am thinking of replacing it with something known to taste great. Its a seedling and has been in the ground 1 year. I have some potential replacements already sitting in pots that need a home, these include a nam doc mai mango on dwarf rootstock, 1 of 2 Achacha and 1 of 2 Mexican garcinia. Thoughts? | About the Author Waterfall Waterfall 16th April 2015 9:32pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Your quite correct - putting chocolate on their name is wrong - more lke a blande weird coloured persimmon as they are and my fruit in Melb grow soooo slowly - one ive left on almost 2 years - actually I went more to the White Sapotes for taste - and Jaboticabas for fast to be eating size (have only tried a friends yet)and Acerola for very fast and quite nice sub acid cherry guava like flavour | About the Author Markmelb MT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 16th April 2015 10:08pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Waterfall says... I picked up a NDM last spring when I visited Byron Bay, it had flowers on it at the time and set a couple of fruit but I knocked them off as I wanted to prune the tree for lower branching. This evening I removed the BS from the ground and planted the NDM in its place. We got 25mm of rain today and I was surprised how dry the soil was deep down. This is the problem with sand I guess. I think the BS will do better in the pot since I can keep the water up to it more which is what they prefer. It's a shame my edibles page does not link to my username properly but yes I already have a paxton prolific custard apple, cherimoya, rollinia and soursop.
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| About the Author Brett26 Brisbane 29th November 2015 10:36am #UserID: 12811 Posts: 1 View All Brett26's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MIke T1 cairns 13th December 2015 11:38am #UserID: 10744 Posts: 250 View All MIke T1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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randey says... the flowers are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. many fruiting trees will shed excess flowers, ie mangos, mandarins etc. it is all about self pruning of sorts. imagine a mature fruit tree having all of its flowers grow into fruit. the tree would be so loaded that the branches would snap under the weight not to mention that the fruit that did grow would be smaller in size due to distribution of energy (water & nutrients) to all fruit. because your plant is still small any flower loss is deemed to be catastrophic. believe me it isn`t. as the tree grows with each successive flowering more and more flowers will be seen to set. and yes i have a black sapote which was last year cut back to around 25 feet. the last of the fruit has just been picked and frozen and next years crop is in the process of flowering. and yes my tree is losing flowers but still setting many fruit. dont despair, they will get better with maturity almost like some of we humans. good luck | About the Author randey east cannington,6107,WA 14th December 2015 1:42am #UserID: 2306 Posts: 104 View All randey's Edible Fruit Trees |
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SueG says... My black sapote is about 4 years old (?) and has had a tough life. My SE Queensland coastal “fruit forest” garden is left for 6 months at a time without any attention (no water, fertiliser, pruning....nothing). Then it gets a couple of months of grey water and maybe some dynamic lifter or manure and some fresh mulch. The rest of the time it survives on moisture in the ground conserved by the thick layer of natural eucalypt litter and chop and drop mulch. Considering this, my garden has done pretty well. Defying all odds I have only lost one or two plants and get small crops of fruit sporadically. Now, the black sapote....it is planted in a dryish part of the block quite near a large white gum (plus a macadamia, olive, fig, feijoa, lemon myrtle and avocado). All of these are doing well except the black sapote and the ava. I figure the black sapote has a nutrient deficiency (see pic of leaves) but I dont know what it is. The ph of the soil where the black sapote is, is 6.
| About the Author SueG Russell Island 10th November 2018 4:04pm #UserID: 19324 Posts: 1 View All SueG's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 12th November 2018 7:26am #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Neil says... My Black Sapote is about 8 years old and is now at least 7-8 metres high. It fruits yearsly, sometimes poorly but it's covered in new fruit now. It always looks very healthy and is in sand 300m from the beach here near Hervey Bay. I water it from a bore, but have not fertilised it at all. Neil | About the Author Neil Toogoom 20th November 2018 3:30pm #UserID: 19397 Posts: 1 View All Neil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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