Jared starts with ...
This is my Black Sapote situated on an easterly aspect in Goonellabah in a frost free area.
I have 20+ different fruit trees and huge range of ornamentals which are all growing a good rate but this sapote has really done nothing it was planted almost half a year ago and the lavenders interplanted in the orchard area has grown taller then it.
What am I doing wrong? they get regular watering and feed with organic fertlizer and the area is regularly kept mulched.
Is the plant not really suited for this area or something? I know the Wollongbar tafe that I attend have one growing but I dont know what/if attention it gets as Im in the landscape area not ag-culture area.
This is my Black Sapote situated on an easterly aspect in Goonellabah in a frost free area.
I have 20+ different fruit trees and huge range of ornamentals which are all growing a good rate but this sapote has really done nothing it was planted almost half a year ago and the lavenders interplanted in the orchard area has grown taller then it.
What am I doing wrong? they get regular watering and feed with organic fertlizer and the area is regularly kept mulched.
Is the plant not really suited for this area or something? I know the Wollongbar tafe that I attend have one growing but I dont know what/if attention it gets as Im in the landscape area not ag-culture area.
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Jared
Goonellabah
21st June 2007 1:03pm
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ScottG says...
I have a Black Sapote in a similar spot in my garden on the Gold Coast. It is a seedling and after 7 years is only 2m tall. But this year it produced its first fruit (poor quality because of lack of water). Mine has one or two growth spurts in the year and the drought has played a big part in limiting its size. It seems to me that they require LOTS of water (by Gold Coast standards) to flourish.
Yours may just not have had an annual growth spurt yet and/or still be recovering from the transplant.
I have a Black Sapote in a similar spot in my garden on the Gold Coast. It is a seedling and after 7 years is only 2m tall. But this year it produced its first fruit (poor quality because of lack of water). Mine has one or two growth spurts in the year and the drought has played a big part in limiting its size. It seems to me that they require LOTS of water (by Gold Coast standards) to flourish.
Yours may just not have had an annual growth spurt yet and/or still be recovering from the transplant.
ScottG
Nerang
21st June 2007 4:14pm
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Dekka
Newcastle
22nd June 2007 8:00pm
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Anonymous says...
Frost free Goonellabah? The climate is changing. Perhaps you live in my family's one time beautiful old farm house on top of the range where frosts drain away downhill. Just perfect for those westerlies to whip through the cracks on a winter night.
Seriously, give your tree time. Many trees spend ages sending down roots to a water table. Then they grow fast. The water table used to be 10m below the valley floor in Goonellabah. Possibly more now with the dry. I have 3 black sapotes. None have moved for the first few years. The drought has made this much worse by dropping the local water table by 10m
Frost free Goonellabah? The climate is changing. Perhaps you live in my family's one time beautiful old farm house on top of the range where frosts drain away downhill. Just perfect for those westerlies to whip through the cracks on a winter night.
Seriously, give your tree time. Many trees spend ages sending down roots to a water table. Then they grow fast. The water table used to be 10m below the valley floor in Goonellabah. Possibly more now with the dry. I have 3 black sapotes. None have moved for the first few years. The drought has made this much worse by dropping the local water table by 10m
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22nd June 2007 8:31pm
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Adrianna
Logan Village
10th August 2007 7:29pm
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Bazza says...
For Jared,
Do not be concernd after only 6 months. My tree has been in ground for 5 yrs now and hopefuly bearing now for the first time even though it has flowered twice before. At the moment it is covered with hundreds of flowers turning to small (pea size) dark green fruit. As you may see from photo i have pruned the Sapote to suit the corner area maybe holding it back a season from fruiting?
All The Best Bazza
For Jared,
Do not be concernd after only 6 months. My tree has been in ground for 5 yrs now and hopefuly bearing now for the first time even though it has flowered twice before. At the moment it is covered with hundreds of flowers turning to small (pea size) dark green fruit. As you may see from photo i have pruned the Sapote to suit the corner area maybe holding it back a season from fruiting?
All The Best Bazza
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Bazza
Bundaberg Qld
12th August 2007 1:39pm
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Bazza
Bundaberg qld
13th August 2007 1:33pm
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Correy says...
Those are fantastic pictures Bazza. I am very keen to get a black sapote, I tasted one from tropical fruit world and it was one of the best fruits I have tasted. I wouldn't say it was exactly like chocolate pudding but I could see why they would say that.
The one I had was about the same size as an apple but they are full of the pudding like flesh. I thought there would be seeds in them but there wasn't you could just eat the whole thing. Skin as well if you were keen...like me :)
Those are fantastic pictures Bazza. I am very keen to get a black sapote, I tasted one from tropical fruit world and it was one of the best fruits I have tasted. I wouldn't say it was exactly like chocolate pudding but I could see why they would say that.
The one I had was about the same size as an apple but they are full of the pudding like flesh. I thought there would be seeds in them but there wasn't you could just eat the whole thing. Skin as well if you were keen...like me :)
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
13th August 2007 4:04pm
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medowie
14th August 2007 10:47pm
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Algarve, Portugal
16th August 2007 8:31am
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Newcastle
16th August 2007 9:27am
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Bazza
Bundaberg Aus.
25th August 2007 4:41pm
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Siafu says...
Hi,
Bazza, your new picture also shows a white sapote (Casimiroa edulis) or a similar species like the yellow sapote/matasano (Casimiroa tetrameria).
Black sapote is in a diferent genus ( Diospyros ). In fact, it is a tropical relative of the common persimmon.
The bark of the Black sapote is almot black, while the bark of the white sapote is grey with small white "bumps".
Moreover, black sapotes have simple leaves while white sapote has compound leaves, as shown in your picture.
Hi,
Bazza, your new picture also shows a white sapote (Casimiroa edulis) or a similar species like the yellow sapote/matasano (Casimiroa tetrameria).
Black sapote is in a diferent genus ( Diospyros ). In fact, it is a tropical relative of the common persimmon.
The bark of the Black sapote is almot black, while the bark of the white sapote is grey with small white "bumps".
Moreover, black sapotes have simple leaves while white sapote has compound leaves, as shown in your picture.
Siafu
Algarve, Portugal
26th August 2007 3:59am
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Bazza
Bundaberg Aus
27th August 2007 12:38pm
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Scott G says...
For reference here are a couple of photos of my 7 yr old seedling Black Sapote. Branches as thick as a thumb were dead right the way through after a single frost. These photos were taken 5 weeks after the frost. There is still hope.
PS: It produced its first fruit last summer.
For reference here are a couple of photos of my 7 yr old seedling Black Sapote. Branches as thick as a thumb were dead right the way through after a single frost. These photos were taken 5 weeks after the frost. There is still hope.
PS: It produced its first fruit last summer.
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Scott G
Gold Coast
27th August 2007 3:30pm
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Sandy says...
I bought a black sapote from daley's and it's doing ok, along the fence, I am watching it, as the weather down here, is colder.
I have mine planted with lots of organic mulch and a medium loamy soil.
All our kitchen scraps, guinea pig poo and straw, cow manure all gets mixed in. Our black sapote, or choc pudding tree gets the afternoon sun, facing a brick wall on the garage.
Maybe try more mulching or manure.
I bought a black sapote from daley's and it's doing ok, along the fence, I am watching it, as the weather down here, is colder.
I have mine planted with lots of organic mulch and a medium loamy soil.
All our kitchen scraps, guinea pig poo and straw, cow manure all gets mixed in. Our black sapote, or choc pudding tree gets the afternoon sun, facing a brick wall on the garage.
Maybe try more mulching or manure.
Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
25th September 2007 7:38pm
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Jared says...
Unfortunately my sapote didnt live through the winter, we got only ONE frost all winter, which was mild when compared with most of the lismore region that got hit very hard, but it wasnt just the frost, that was just the last straw for the poor plant.
We think it may not have liked being in such nutrient rich soil, as that section had been prepared for the citrus trees, so had a lot of well rotted and dug in horse manure as well as homemade compost dug into it.
We also lost the lychee tree, but that was a combination of dog digging it out to chew on (need barbed wire to keep some plants alive with this dog) and then it had just started to revive from the dog adventure when the frost hit.
However all the other citrus (9 in total), stonefruit (3), mango tree and vegi patch etc, survived and are all doing well, most of them have their first crop just starting (i pinched the flowers off last year to get them some growth first).
We plan to get another sapote and plant it near the mango and stone fruits as the ground there wasnt as prepared as the citrus area.
Oh well, it is trial and error here, thats part of the fun of gardening.
Unfortunately my sapote didnt live through the winter, we got only ONE frost all winter, which was mild when compared with most of the lismore region that got hit very hard, but it wasnt just the frost, that was just the last straw for the poor plant.
We think it may not have liked being in such nutrient rich soil, as that section had been prepared for the citrus trees, so had a lot of well rotted and dug in horse manure as well as homemade compost dug into it.
We also lost the lychee tree, but that was a combination of dog digging it out to chew on (need barbed wire to keep some plants alive with this dog) and then it had just started to revive from the dog adventure when the frost hit.
However all the other citrus (9 in total), stonefruit (3), mango tree and vegi patch etc, survived and are all doing well, most of them have their first crop just starting (i pinched the flowers off last year to get them some growth first).
We plan to get another sapote and plant it near the mango and stone fruits as the ground there wasnt as prepared as the citrus area.
Oh well, it is trial and error here, thats part of the fun of gardening.
Jared
Goonellabah
2nd October 2007 1:20am
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Melanie says...
I have Black Sapote growing in Sydney. It's about 2 years old. I was wanting to know whats the best treatment of the tree besides keeping it shelted from the frost (which we don't have much).
It's doing quite well but some branches have turned black and fallen off, not sure if it's ok! Still has growth and have notice some new growth on it reasently.
I have Black Sapote growing in Sydney. It's about 2 years old. I was wanting to know whats the best treatment of the tree besides keeping it shelted from the frost (which we don't have much).
It's doing quite well but some branches have turned black and fallen off, not sure if it's ok! Still has growth and have notice some new growth on it reasently.
Melanie
Sydney
15th November 2007 11:01am
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Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
16th November 2007 3:36pm
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Melanie
Sydney
17th November 2007 12:52pm
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Sandy says...
Could be!
I meant to say mine is planted on the western side of the garden, but actually gets the morning/midday sun. It's in shade rest of the day.
I have lots of compost in the soil, and I water it every second day. As we have water restrictions here.
never had a black sapote before, so unsure why the leaves are black.
Could be!
I meant to say mine is planted on the western side of the garden, but actually gets the morning/midday sun. It's in shade rest of the day.
I have lots of compost in the soil, and I water it every second day. As we have water restrictions here.
never had a black sapote before, so unsure why the leaves are black.
Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
17th November 2007 5:46pm
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Melanie
Sydney
18th November 2007 5:54pm
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Adrianna says...
I have killed 2 trees they just slowly got smaller and died. I bought another one and tried a different site added lots of mushroom compost its on the NW side of the block in the orchard has a little protection from some large gums but it seems to be powering now. I have attached photo.
I have killed 2 trees they just slowly got smaller and died. I bought another one and tried a different site added lots of mushroom compost its on the NW side of the block in the orchard has a little protection from some large gums but it seems to be powering now. I have attached photo.
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Adrianna
Logan Village
19th November 2007 6:45am
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melbourne, Victoria
19th November 2007 1:32pm
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Sydney
19th November 2007 11:37pm
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Sydney
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melbourne, Victoria
20th November 2007 2:55pm
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Logan Village
20th November 2007 3:07pm
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Melbourne, Vic
21st November 2007 6:30pm
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Scott G says...
From what I have seen, Black Sapotes need lots of water to flourish. While they seem to be reasonably hardy for a fruit tree but don’t expect good growth or good fruit without good water. I would assume good soil also helps.
I have grown my seedling (from fruit I ate) for the last 7 years. The first few years were a little tough on it in a pot. The soil in the pot got a bit hot in the sun and it occasionally got too dry. Next was the year of the transplant and it took a bit to get settled. The last 3 years have been drought. It produced 2 small poor quality fruit in its 7th year. That winter it got a rare freak frost that reduced it to a stump. But it appears to be on the mend.
It is growing in an area that also has a mango, pomelo, guava, wampi, grumichama, hill gooseberry, passionfruit, acerola cherry, white sapote and a camito. All of which have out performed it. But it is doing no harm where it is so it can stay.
From what I have seen, Black Sapotes need lots of water to flourish. While they seem to be reasonably hardy for a fruit tree but don’t expect good growth or good fruit without good water. I would assume good soil also helps.
I have grown my seedling (from fruit I ate) for the last 7 years. The first few years were a little tough on it in a pot. The soil in the pot got a bit hot in the sun and it occasionally got too dry. Next was the year of the transplant and it took a bit to get settled. The last 3 years have been drought. It produced 2 small poor quality fruit in its 7th year. That winter it got a rare freak frost that reduced it to a stump. But it appears to be on the mend.
It is growing in an area that also has a mango, pomelo, guava, wampi, grumichama, hill gooseberry, passionfruit, acerola cherry, white sapote and a camito. All of which have out performed it. But it is doing no harm where it is so it can stay.
Scott G
Gold Coast
22nd November 2007 1:05pm
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Sandy says...
I have taken a pic of the cherries that are left, that came from our stella cherry tree.
here were 19 all together. I ate some earlier, yum yum. jucy and sweet! Hope we get some more soon. The tree is only about 3 years old. The black sapote I have does not use bore water, either tap or rain water.
I have taken a pic of the cherries that are left, that came from our stella cherry tree.
here were 19 all together. I ate some earlier, yum yum. jucy and sweet! Hope we get some more soon. The tree is only about 3 years old. The black sapote I have does not use bore water, either tap or rain water.
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Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
22nd November 2007 3:52pm
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Mark Wiersema says...
I was just wondering if the Black Sapote is able to grow in SA, if kept in a full north sun position with protection from wind, and set along side other Citrus for added protection in Winter?
I was just wondering if the Black Sapote is able to grow in SA, if kept in a full north sun position with protection from wind, and set along side other Citrus for added protection in Winter?
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Mark Wiersema
Mt Barker, SA
8th January 2008 11:41am
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Correy says...
Hi Mark,
For ideal conditions for a black sapote you need moist well drained soil in a warm and sheltered position. They are a bit tollerant to wind but are frost sensitive. Here is the tag for it:
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Black-Sapote-Chocolate-Pudding-Fruit.htm
The Black Sapote is currently equal 3rd most popular fruit tree Daleys Sends to South Australia. Third to the Miracle Fruit and Ceylon Hill Gooseberry. It is equal third with the Sapodilla.
Hi Mark,
For ideal conditions for a black sapote you need moist well drained soil in a warm and sheltered position. They are a bit tollerant to wind but are frost sensitive. Here is the tag for it:
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Black-Sapote-Chocolate-Pudding-Fruit.htm
The Black Sapote is currently equal 3rd most popular fruit tree Daleys Sends to South Australia. Third to the Miracle Fruit and Ceylon Hill Gooseberry. It is equal third with the Sapodilla.
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
8th January 2008 11:48am
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Sandy says...
Oh dear, alas, my poor old black Sapote "has gone to God", as Don Burke would say!
I nursed it, and fed it, and waterd it, but it has just about carked it. just 2 leaves left on that are green. rest are black and stems are looking brittle.
We have been on hols. to merimbula, for 2 weeks. Maybe something happened while we were not home.
Oh dear, alas, my poor old black Sapote "has gone to God", as Don Burke would say!
I nursed it, and fed it, and waterd it, but it has just about carked it. just 2 leaves left on that are green. rest are black and stems are looking brittle.
We have been on hols. to merimbula, for 2 weeks. Maybe something happened while we were not home.
Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
9th January 2008 2:20pm
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Adrianna Cooper says...
Hi Sandy,
Its sounds a little like colar rot did you make sure the root ball wasnt burried too deep up the stem. This happened to my Tamirillo i re potted it to deep it went real well for a couple of weeks then all of a sudden the leaves started to drop and then as you said gone to god.
Hi Sandy,
Its sounds a little like colar rot did you make sure the root ball wasnt burried too deep up the stem. This happened to my Tamirillo i re potted it to deep it went real well for a couple of weeks then all of a sudden the leaves started to drop and then as you said gone to god.
Adrianna Cooper
Logan Village
10th January 2008 6:18am
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Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
10th January 2008 1:17pm
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John says...
I found my black sapotes leaves went black when they were bruised, wind or heat effected and the frosts burnt them. To get growth out of them took aleast forty litres about 2 to 3 times a week. Due to my poor soils, i have to feed monthly, for which pot ash is more important for fast growth as is trace elements here where i am. I carnt wait for is fruit, if that happens for they are nice to eat. But its a nice tree to sit and watch while having a barbe.
I found my black sapotes leaves went black when they were bruised, wind or heat effected and the frosts burnt them. To get growth out of them took aleast forty litres about 2 to 3 times a week. Due to my poor soils, i have to feed monthly, for which pot ash is more important for fast growth as is trace elements here where i am. I carnt wait for is fruit, if that happens for they are nice to eat. But its a nice tree to sit and watch while having a barbe.
John
SB South Australia
17th February 2008 2:44pm
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Sandy says...
My black sapote has come good. I pruned it back a little, and it has new growth, I have been givingit more "grey water" as well as from the hose. I added some chook manure to the soil as well, as it's clay underneath the dry topsoil. The Yacon I have is growing like crazy, just up from the fig tree, I have in.
My black sapote has come good. I pruned it back a little, and it has new growth, I have been givingit more "grey water" as well as from the hose. I added some chook manure to the soil as well, as it's clay underneath the dry topsoil. The Yacon I have is growing like crazy, just up from the fig tree, I have in.
Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
19th February 2008 1:40pm
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Scott G says...
6 months after a freak frost reduced my black sapote to a stump (see pics in a previous post above) it has recovered. Lots of rain (more than it has ever had) has done wonders for it. It now has more leaves and looks healthier than it ever has. The difference lots of water has made is really significant.
6 months after a freak frost reduced my black sapote to a stump (see pics in a previous post above) it has recovered. Lots of rain (more than it has ever had) has done wonders for it. It now has more leaves and looks healthier than it ever has. The difference lots of water has made is really significant.
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Scott G
The Gold Coast
9th March 2008 9:04pm
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Adrianna Cooper says...
Your tree lis looking great I know where you are coming from, my tree looks very much like your and yes I think it was all the rain we have had and also the mild summer we have had might have helped as well. We still need a lot more rain to carry us into the Autumn and Winter months
Adrianna
Your tree lis looking great I know where you are coming from, my tree looks very much like your and yes I think it was all the rain we have had and also the mild summer we have had might have helped as well. We still need a lot more rain to carry us into the Autumn and Winter months
Adrianna
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Logan Village
12th March 2008 6:55am
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West Melbourne
13th March 2008 7:47am
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Scott G says...
I grew mine in a pot for a few years.
Black Sapotes are supposed to do well in a wide variety of soil types. If you are going to buy potting mix I would get the best stuff you can find (costing the most) and add plenty of water retaining granules. Cover with mulch. They love water. Some naturally grew in areas that got partially flooded.
Depending on how often you water it, you might consider putting a water tray under the pot. I'm not sure how susceptible they are to root rot though.
Most people's stories seem to agree with my scenario. Lots of water is the only way to keep them healthy. If your climate doesn't suit them then you need to treat them well to get something in return.
I grew mine in a pot for a few years.
Black Sapotes are supposed to do well in a wide variety of soil types. If you are going to buy potting mix I would get the best stuff you can find (costing the most) and add plenty of water retaining granules. Cover with mulch. They love water. Some naturally grew in areas that got partially flooded.
Depending on how often you water it, you might consider putting a water tray under the pot. I'm not sure how susceptible they are to root rot though.
Most people's stories seem to agree with my scenario. Lots of water is the only way to keep them healthy. If your climate doesn't suit them then you need to treat them well to get something in return.
Scott G
The Gold Coast
13th March 2008 9:20am
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melbourne, Victoria
16th March 2008 2:09pm
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Hervey bay
31st March 2008 11:49am
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Scott G says...
My plant dropped its flowers for the first 2 years it flowered. That was in the drought. I am not sure if it was just too young to fruit or if it wasn't getting enough water.
I think it might have been a combination of both. They need loads of water to produce good fruit - especially if you are on sandy soil.
My plant dropped its flowers for the first 2 years it flowered. That was in the drought. I am not sure if it was just too young to fruit or if it wasn't getting enough water.
I think it might have been a combination of both. They need loads of water to produce good fruit - especially if you are on sandy soil.
Scott G
The Gold Coast
31st March 2008 6:10pm
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Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
2nd April 2008 1:19am
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Ros
Wellington, NZ
23rd May 2008 9:38am
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Larry says...
Hi Ros,
I have got one in a wine barrel and it is doing very well. Make sure your drainage is good and give it heaps of water. Since i started flooding mine it has really taken off with new shoots and leaves, even in our current winter. Fertilise with blood and bone that has got potash included with it as this strengthens the cell walls and should help it against frost. I see that you are in new zealand so what i suggest is although you keep it outside make sure it is under cover. Mine is under a patio that has roof sheeting that still allows filtered sunlight through. Hope this helps
Hi Ros,
I have got one in a wine barrel and it is doing very well. Make sure your drainage is good and give it heaps of water. Since i started flooding mine it has really taken off with new shoots and leaves, even in our current winter. Fertilise with blood and bone that has got potash included with it as this strengthens the cell walls and should help it against frost. I see that you are in new zealand so what i suggest is although you keep it outside make sure it is under cover. Mine is under a patio that has roof sheeting that still allows filtered sunlight through. Hope this helps
Larry
perth
23rd May 2008 10:34am
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Lachlann says...
I plonked my black sapote in under a paperbark tree and it has taken off vigorously. I wonder if it is adapted to growing in semi-shade as a young tree and too much sun and high temperatures may be detrimental.
It has a mulch of paperbark leaf litter, even temperatures, moderate water and only gently fertilized with some osmocote in the planting hole. I plan on removing the paperbark when the black sapote needs the space..
I plonked my black sapote in under a paperbark tree and it has taken off vigorously. I wonder if it is adapted to growing in semi-shade as a young tree and too much sun and high temperatures may be detrimental.
It has a mulch of paperbark leaf litter, even temperatures, moderate water and only gently fertilized with some osmocote in the planting hole. I plan on removing the paperbark when the black sapote needs the space..
Lachlann
South Coast, NSW
3rd June 2008 10:15pm
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David Coulthurst says...
hi all
I have a black sapote tree and suddenly (over night) all the leaves fell off even though there wern't many leaves to start with and the ends of the small branches and the main stem is starting to get wrinkley and i have had no growth at all in the 4 months that i have had it planted. It is planted in the field in full sun with other tropical fruit trees (which are all going great including a white sapote as well) and i give it heaps of water every second day and liquid fertilizer about once every fortnight (seasol) as well as cow manure and slow release fertalizers. I live in Darwin, can anyone please help me?
hi all
I have a black sapote tree and suddenly (over night) all the leaves fell off even though there wern't many leaves to start with and the ends of the small branches and the main stem is starting to get wrinkley and i have had no growth at all in the 4 months that i have had it planted. It is planted in the field in full sun with other tropical fruit trees (which are all going great including a white sapote as well) and i give it heaps of water every second day and liquid fertilizer about once every fortnight (seasol) as well as cow manure and slow release fertalizers. I live in Darwin, can anyone please help me?
David Coulthurst
Darwin NT
8th September 2008 9:19am
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Will
Mount Tamborine
9th September 2008 1:04pm
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Debbie says...
Hi,
I wonder if someone could help me? I recently recieved my black sapote from daleys (it arrived in wonderful condition) I soaked it in water and seasol for approx 20 minutes then transplanted it into the gound the next day, I used plenty of manure and soil improver into the hole and mulched with bark. It is retriculated for half an hour a day and is protected by shade cloth, it has been in the ground for about 5 days, when today I noticed about 6 leaves had dropped off it and the new shoots at the end of the branches had shriveled. I am worried that it will not survive, even though the rest of the plant seems ok so far, do they suffer transplant shock? and will it come back fully? Could someone offer me some advice???
many thanks
Hi,
I wonder if someone could help me? I recently recieved my black sapote from daleys (it arrived in wonderful condition) I soaked it in water and seasol for approx 20 minutes then transplanted it into the gound the next day, I used plenty of manure and soil improver into the hole and mulched with bark. It is retriculated for half an hour a day and is protected by shade cloth, it has been in the ground for about 5 days, when today I noticed about 6 leaves had dropped off it and the new shoots at the end of the branches had shriveled. I am worried that it will not survive, even though the rest of the plant seems ok so far, do they suffer transplant shock? and will it come back fully? Could someone offer me some advice???
many thanks
Debbie
Geraldton western australia
15th September 2008 8:04pm
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Bob
Childers Qld
2nd January 2009 9:39pm
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Steve says...
Debbie - how's the black sapote? I noticed you posted a while back.
I was wondering if it was too wet.
My tree grew fast & is a heavy cropper with no pests or problems in the 8yrs it's been growing.
It gets no special treatment except all my trees are heavily mulched to the drip line & fertilized about three times per year.
It only received a little water when young as it was stressed with summer heat & drought conditions, but now relies only on rain & appears very healthy.
Debbie - how's the black sapote? I noticed you posted a while back.
I was wondering if it was too wet.
My tree grew fast & is a heavy cropper with no pests or problems in the 8yrs it's been growing.
It gets no special treatment except all my trees are heavily mulched to the drip line & fertilized about three times per year.
It only received a little water when young as it was stressed with summer heat & drought conditions, but now relies only on rain & appears very healthy.
Steve
Coffs Harbour
5th January 2009 9:49pm
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Debbie says...
Hi Steve, thank you for replying to my post. I seem to be having some success with my Sapote now, the leaves have stopped falling and I have a lot of new growth, I am presuming that it was just suffering from a small amount of transplant shock when the leaves were falling off. The only problem I am having at them moment is the hot winds we are getting, (it is 30-40+ degrees at the moment. How long did it take for your tree to grow before it began to fruit? and should I let it fruit or remove the first lot? I have the plant in the chook pen along with 6 or 7 other fruit trees, they are all protected by wire from the chooks but it is great because they keep the weeds down and supply great fertilizer.
Hi Steve, thank you for replying to my post. I seem to be having some success with my Sapote now, the leaves have stopped falling and I have a lot of new growth, I am presuming that it was just suffering from a small amount of transplant shock when the leaves were falling off. The only problem I am having at them moment is the hot winds we are getting, (it is 30-40+ degrees at the moment. How long did it take for your tree to grow before it began to fruit? and should I let it fruit or remove the first lot? I have the plant in the chook pen along with 6 or 7 other fruit trees, they are all protected by wire from the chooks but it is great because they keep the weeds down and supply great fertilizer.
Debbie
Geraldton Western Australia
18th January 2009 2:03am
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Steve says...
I can't recall exactly when it first cropped, but it was very earlier I think in the second year.
I wouldn't worry about removing the fruit unless the tree looks stressed.
I removed all the fruit in the first two years with my citrus trees, but it was during drought times & I wanted to give the roots a chance to establish.
With the Black sapote, it's never looked crook during wet or dry periods, never had any kind of pest or disease.
It's been the perfect fruit tree.
I can't recall exactly when it first cropped, but it was very earlier I think in the second year.
I wouldn't worry about removing the fruit unless the tree looks stressed.
I removed all the fruit in the first two years with my citrus trees, but it was during drought times & I wanted to give the roots a chance to establish.
With the Black sapote, it's never looked crook during wet or dry periods, never had any kind of pest or disease.
It's been the perfect fruit tree.
Steve
Coffs Harbour
21st January 2009 1:00pm
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Correy says...
I have 2 different varieties of black sapote trees the ricks late and the bernicker.
They both fruited early. I pulled most of the fruit off except for one in the first 2 years and the one that I left looks to be ripening very nicely.
They take ages to be properly formed it is a real marathon for them to produce the fruit.
Both are looking very healthy.
I have 2 different varieties of black sapote trees the ricks late and the bernicker.
They both fruited early. I pulled most of the fruit off except for one in the first 2 years and the one that I left looks to be ripening very nicely.
They take ages to be properly formed it is a real marathon for them to produce the fruit.
Both are looking very healthy.
Correy
Brisbane, Woolloongabba
21st January 2009 5:51pm
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Lotte says...
Don't know what to say, except that my Black Sapote has not been fertilised in the 3 years we have lived here (Brisane), it's never been watered, there's grass growing right up to the trunk, yet it still produces almost pumpkin sized fruit year in, year out. I don't much like the taste of the fruit though - remind me too much of dog poo!
Don't know what to say, except that my Black Sapote has not been fertilised in the 3 years we have lived here (Brisane), it's never been watered, there's grass growing right up to the trunk, yet it still produces almost pumpkin sized fruit year in, year out. I don't much like the taste of the fruit though - remind me too much of dog poo!
Lotte
Brisbane
24th January 2009 2:30pm
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Steve says...
Lotte - Both mine & your trees seem to thrive on neglect - like I posted earlier, the perfect fruit tree...if you like the taste.
I find the taste bland, but in recipes they are used as a chocolate subsitute.
If eating just the fruit pulp, I find adding a little dash of liqueur makes a big differance to the taste.
Lotte - Both mine & your trees seem to thrive on neglect - like I posted earlier, the perfect fruit tree...if you like the taste.
I find the taste bland, but in recipes they are used as a chocolate subsitute.
If eating just the fruit pulp, I find adding a little dash of liqueur makes a big differance to the taste.
Steve
Coffs Harbour
14th February 2009 11:02am
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stu says...
My tree has been in 18 months. It is grafted. It is now about 5foot tall and dropped pea sized fruit this year. I wasn't too concerned due to it flowering the first time and the season we have had being very dry. Try the mulch from the tip at $11 a metre. Dead set kicked all my trees on when that was applied. Also try aminogro which is a foliar fertilizer. I hit my sapote when I did my citrus etc and it jumped. Get it from any rural buying type store.
My tree has been in 18 months. It is grafted. It is now about 5foot tall and dropped pea sized fruit this year. I wasn't too concerned due to it flowering the first time and the season we have had being very dry. Try the mulch from the tip at $11 a metre. Dead set kicked all my trees on when that was applied. Also try aminogro which is a foliar fertilizer. I hit my sapote when I did my citrus etc and it jumped. Get it from any rural buying type store.
stu
north coast nsw
19th February 2009 10:42pm
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jessica
melbourne- eastern suburbs
21st February 2009 1:26pm
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Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
20th March 2009 2:14pm
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Robyn says...
Hi
I have a black sapote growing very happily, so far anyway, no fruit yet. I have planted it on a north facing slope just on the edge of a large jacaranda tree which provides some protection. It LOVES water - the more the better, with all the rain lately it has nearly doubled it size.
Would definetly give it a go
Hi
I have a black sapote growing very happily, so far anyway, no fruit yet. I have planted it on a north facing slope just on the edge of a large jacaranda tree which provides some protection. It LOVES water - the more the better, with all the rain lately it has nearly doubled it size.
Would definetly give it a go
Robyn
Sydney north side
12th April 2009 7:53pm
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Sandy says...
Hi, My Fig tree, I have growing in the same area as the black Sapote, is growing really well! So is the Yacon, both bought from Daley's. K1, coffee, plus 2 strawberry guavas, and 2 apple trees are ok. The hazelnut tree, Ennis, I have left, was going good before, now it looks bare, I guess the colder weather makes it look that way. Any hints for fertilising it?
Hi, My Fig tree, I have growing in the same area as the black Sapote, is growing really well! So is the Yacon, both bought from Daley's. K1, coffee, plus 2 strawberry guavas, and 2 apple trees are ok. The hazelnut tree, Ennis, I have left, was going good before, now it looks bare, I guess the colder weather makes it look that way. Any hints for fertilising it?
Sandy
melbourne, Victoria
16th April 2009 5:32pm
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randey says...
hello sandy, i dont know if i should tell you about my black sapote. i live in perth ( a little more temperate than melbourne). the tree is 4 metres high and lives next to a brick wall and receives a handful of fertiliser once a year and i dont even know if the retic to it still works. even after all that neglect it has over 50 fruit on it. when the last fruit has fallen the new flowers start to appear within days. i think it has found its niche in the garden and if i do anything different to it it would probably pack up and drop dead. oh by the way the fruit looks and tastes like chocolate mousse. good luck .
hello sandy, i dont know if i should tell you about my black sapote. i live in perth ( a little more temperate than melbourne). the tree is 4 metres high and lives next to a brick wall and receives a handful of fertiliser once a year and i dont even know if the retic to it still works. even after all that neglect it has over 50 fruit on it. when the last fruit has fallen the new flowers start to appear within days. i think it has found its niche in the garden and if i do anything different to it it would probably pack up and drop dead. oh by the way the fruit looks and tastes like chocolate mousse. good luck .
randey
perth
16th May 2009 9:17am
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Justin says...
You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27
To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream.
Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try.
You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27
To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream.
Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try.
Justin
Melbourne
20th May 2009 12:20pm
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Justin says...
You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27
To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream.
Have never seen the fruit anywhere in Melbourne.
Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try.
You can taste it in Tropical Fruit World in Tweed Heads, if it's in season and they have a harvest. They also sell black sapote sauce, which you can try to give you an idea of the flavour, although personally I like the taste of the fruit better than that sauce. http://www.tropicalfruitworld.com.au/products/product.asp?productID=27
To be honest, I'm not sure if the fruit is one to be eating by iself. It's probably more suited to mixing with other ingredients (others may disagree). I like it mixed in with icecream.
Have never seen the fruit anywhere in Melbourne.
Once I get my garden set up I want to try to grow a black sapote here in Melbourne too. Not sure if it will fruit, but you never know until you try.
Justin
Melbourne
20th May 2009 12:22pm
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perth
7th June 2009 8:57pm
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liz
gingin wa
21st July 2009 11:07pm
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randey says...
gee where to start. try daleys website for starters,also there a few nurseries around perth and the suburbs that carry a reasonable variety of tropical and sub tropical fruit trees. just remember that after all the work to get them established and fruiting the chooks are going to have to wait. why not do a trade with them , their poo for the scraps
gee where to start. try daleys website for starters,also there a few nurseries around perth and the suburbs that carry a reasonable variety of tropical and sub tropical fruit trees. just remember that after all the work to get them established and fruiting the chooks are going to have to wait. why not do a trade with them , their poo for the scraps
randey
perth
22nd July 2009 7:58pm
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karrynmac says...
My black sapote is in the garden on the right - only about 6.2ft - yet I get about 200+- fruit a season. I water weekly, when the fruit is setting you need to step the watering up, I use seaweed or fish liquid fert, I harvest all the seeds for sale on eBay. Easy to grow, 3years to first fruit, first season fruit will be sparse but every year after that you'll get more and more. This photo is from the Gold Coast, I left the tree there and have plans to start planting again here in the Darling Downs.
My black sapote is in the garden on the right - only about 6.2ft - yet I get about 200+- fruit a season. I water weekly, when the fruit is setting you need to step the watering up, I use seaweed or fish liquid fert, I harvest all the seeds for sale on eBay. Easy to grow, 3years to first fruit, first season fruit will be sparse but every year after that you'll get more and more. This photo is from the Gold Coast, I left the tree there and have plans to start planting again here in the Darling Downs.
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Darling Downs
18th August 2009 7:18am
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Sandy says...
Hi everyone, windy down here! I am not doing much ingarden at moment. My daughter is getting a flat in backyard, and everywhere is a bit of a mess! I'm thinking of buying a 2fruit citrus tree, to put in a large pot, might get a lemon with a orange, as I have a lime already.
Not much ground space left for anything else really! I'd like to have fresh citrus, but never grown one in a container, any hints on growing?
Hi everyone, windy down here! I am not doing much ingarden at moment. My daughter is getting a flat in backyard, and everywhere is a bit of a mess! I'm thinking of buying a 2fruit citrus tree, to put in a large pot, might get a lemon with a orange, as I have a lime already.
Not much ground space left for anything else really! I'd like to have fresh citrus, but never grown one in a container, any hints on growing?
Sandy
Melbourne, Victoria
24th August 2009 2:35pm
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Wondering says...
Anyone! My Black Sapote is a Rick's late and for the 2 seasons it's been in the ground it has dropped it's flower buds, when it was first planted it struggled due to a too soggy clay area, so we lifted it and built it up on a mound. Seems to be doing better, but the leaves are yellowing with green veins, what type of deficiency is this? When should I fertilize and what should I use?
Anyone! My Black Sapote is a Rick's late and for the 2 seasons it's been in the ground it has dropped it's flower buds, when it was first planted it struggled due to a too soggy clay area, so we lifted it and built it up on a mound. Seems to be doing better, but the leaves are yellowing with green veins, what type of deficiency is this? When should I fertilize and what should I use?
Wondering
Newcastle
13th October 2009 11:20am
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Justin says...
Recently I've seen black sapote fruit being sold in various places in Melbourne. One is David Jones in the city (occassionally), and also some Asian markets. They're from Tropical Fruit World, so I guess their trees are getting more established and producing enough fruit to distribute. Had a few of them in September and October.
Have just bought and planted a seedling black sapote from Daleys. Chose a seedling in the hope that it will tolerate the marginal climate of Melbourne. It's too early to comment on how it's doing, but if anything exciting happens I'll post it here.
Recently I've seen black sapote fruit being sold in various places in Melbourne. One is David Jones in the city (occassionally), and also some Asian markets. They're from Tropical Fruit World, so I guess their trees are getting more established and producing enough fruit to distribute. Had a few of them in September and October.
Have just bought and planted a seedling black sapote from Daleys. Chose a seedling in the hope that it will tolerate the marginal climate of Melbourne. It's too early to comment on how it's doing, but if anything exciting happens I'll post it here.
Justin
Melbourne
19th November 2009 1:54pm
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