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Are any of the varieties of this plant more hardy to cooler climates?
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BenW says...
Hey Greymoon

They are a tropical, like most in the persimmon family, but I think I read somewhere that there is a fair degree of variation and they do get tougher as they get larger.

My experience is that they aren't very hardy at all, however Australia might have a bit of a limited gene pool.

Perhaps seed sourced from certain areas would be more tolerant, like the cool tolerant avocados from Mexican highlands.

If you are from the US, you have more chance of getting your hands on seed from specific places to trial.

I was going to attempt to graft a piece onto a well established standard persimmon to see if that helps, but I don'y have high hopes for success :)
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MaryT1 says...
I've raised a seedling from a fruit my friend brought me; it's been under glass over winter and I'm wondering if it'll grow here in Sydney. Anyone with experience here?
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denise1 says...
If you have a low frost or frost free microclimate that is the best. You can use some rich soil and plant it against the shelter of a building which will keep the plant warmer. You may need to make a plastic film covering over it the first couple of winters in a marginal climate, but after reaching two meters it should be strong enough to hold out by itself. Many seedlings have small fruit or poor quality fruit so try a grafted one if you can get it. Some cultivars make a smaller tree than others but most have quite a large fruit.
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MaryT1 says...
Thanks denise1, I feel more confident about its survival now. I may not see it fruit but I'm growing it for sentimental reasons alone; my friend of forty plus years brought the fruit to me from northern NSW. I will try to keep it small and see what happens.
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JohnMc1 says...
They say seedlings are more cold tolerant than grafted varieties. I have several seedlings and grafted cv's here in the open and the cold has never bothered them. Mary, you are nearer to the coast, I couldn't imagine you ever having any cold issues there. But then again, it has snowed in Sydney before.
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A.C says...
With subtropicals they need a well drained soil.If growing in a pot use a premium potting mix as this grade has a slightly higher level of sand in it, you may want to add more fine sand.I usually add 20 percent more fine sand,just under would be ok.Ive been adding small gravel to this lately.Slightly backing off on fine sand and adding the gravel.Ive been having some good results.
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Markmelb says...
My Choc Sapotes survived winter well arain but fruit take forever to grow - what was that ASH product the cactus guy was using that didnt break down on GA program this weekend and where do you get it? if it wasnt for worms Bark mix would last years longer like my indoor palms over 10 years old and potting mix same as first day virtually no sinking
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MaryT1 says...
Thanks guys; I'm happy to hear that there's a good chance for its survival.
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JohnMc1 says...
I haven't seen the segment yet, but the ash they usually use is fly ash from the power stations. It's used a lot in potting mixes and is graded into different sizes. Ph tests I've done with a digital ph tester come out neutral. I buy it by the cubic meter to fluff up my home made potting mixes. It's in every landscape supply yard around here, bagged and bulk.
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Markmelb says...
Thanks John - thats the stuff - never seen it here - will have to research who has Fly Ash around here - cactus guy was using 50/50 with potting mix
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vlct says...
Made a black sapote tart last night. Vanilla bean ice cream, mango puree.. never tried a sapote before.. beautiful ..
Cocos at the central market have some for sale if interested..
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Carl76 says...
The local Coldrock did a really good icecream witn it, think he said he added vanilla and butter essence. Only has it for a couple of weeks each year.
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MaryT1 says...
vict - that looks yum. Which restaurant?
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Markmelb says...
How long do the Black Sapotes in North NSW to Bundaberg take to get to size and ripen? My Mossman here may take 1 to 2 years but the Bernicker already squashball size since last summer. The Mossman 2mt tall in 450 pot, Healthy and lots of foliage but a slow fruit maturer - has about 12 set fruit. one metre Bernicker 5 set fruit
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Grant says...
My seedling tree takes btwn 7-12 months from flower to ripe fruit in nthn NSW
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vlct says...
Do I work at?
I made it at home w a friend.
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vlct says...
The icecream would be awesome Carl ..
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