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Cape Gooseberry

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kert starts with ...
Has anyone come across the superior named varieties of C. Gooseberry? Sometimes they are available in shops for mega bucks . I'm anxious to get some as my gooseberries are a little ordinary ,much less tasty than shop ones.
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Julie says...
Maybe just grow a plant from seed - buy a couple from the shop and save the seeds. They are very fast growing. That is, if they are not hybrids, which I doubt.

Thompson and Morgan (seed sellers) used to sell 'Golden Nugget' which is a larger Cape gooseberry variety.
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kert says...
true,but never see them in shops.
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Firefly says...
There's some Golden Nugget Cape Gooseberry seeds listed on Oztion at the moment.

http://www.oztion.com.au/vshops/item.aspx?itemid=7322127&tid=17013247
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Julie says...
Thanks Firefly - my litle granddaughter loves these. But she insists on calling them 'blueberries'???

Does Thompson and Morgan still sell seeds in Oz? I haven't seen them for a while.
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kert says...
I have "golden nugget" variety . Does anyone know of other varieties? I understand that some people grow them for flowers and ,i suppose,these would not be as tasty.
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Jantina says...
Hi Kert, is the "golden nugget" variety much of an improvement on the everyday variety (which I have growing ) which to my tongue is tangy not sweet?
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virginny says...
No, "golden nugget"s abit of a crock . I have been trying for some time to obtain good varieties and there certainly are some ,but all I have seen are nameless varieties and "golden nugget"
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Jantina says...
Thanks Virginny, well we can only keep looking then and post it on the forum if any of us finds a good one. Perhaps I might ask on an overseas forum.
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amanda says...
Roleystone Julie - I have heirloom cape gooseberry plants/seed - but no matter where I grow them they aways get red spider mite (perth and gero) I can't understand it - there is nothing around me here! I adore these fruit so any help much appreciated!?
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kert says...
Are you prepared to spray with organophosphate insecticide? As an aside would you send some seed if I paid for it?
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Julie says...
amanda - 'Roleystone Julie', I love it! (see recent post on 'great ideas')

Some organic recommendations for red spider mite are: sulphur; weak potassium permanganate (Condy's crystals);derris dust.

The sulphur is usually effective, but be wary of using it in hot weather.

And I would love some seed! Can you email me at julwood at iprimus dot com(safe way to put address on website)and we can sort it out? I may have seeds to swap, if you are interested.

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amanda says...
thanks julie! I find they don't get the mites until late in the season - so I cull them and treat like an annual. My plant 2m high and fruit not so great now (the bed needs an overhaul)so it's time.
By "heirloom" - i mean that this particular plant has been regenerated in my friends family for about 30yrs now. I will organise some seed for those who would like some - perhaps your e-mail addresses and i will take it from there (no payment needed thanks kert!)
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Chris says...
I'm still scratching about tring to find some Cape Gooseberry seeds.

Has any have any to spare in WA?

(Quarenteen regs prevent posting from other states).

Cheers
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Julie says...
chris, if amanda sends me some perhaps we can share.
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amanda says...
Chris - send me your email (unless u know julie n i will send to her) let me know soon cos i will be busy spending most of my winter changing my retic instead of holidaying in the Bahamas like i deserve (thanks Julie n Speedy!)
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amanda says...
Hi again Julie - tried to email u at julwood@iprimus.com but no go. Have I got it right?
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Julie says...
Duh! I left off the 'au'. Should be dot com dot au. Can you try again? thanks.

Please everyone, don't put your email addresses on here, or any othet forum, unless you write it in the form I showed above. It is much safer.
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Linda says...
Hi Amanda,
Just found this forum on the Cape Gooseberry. I had a plant that I carried around from house to house and it survived all moves bar the last one. The original came from seeds from my Mum years ago, sadly she is no longer with us and so no way to get any more seeds. I was wondering if you have any from your friends 'heirloom' plant that you might be able to post to me? Would really appreciate it if you are able to.
Thanks, Linda
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Charles cant spell says...
I have ones coming up in my garden all the time, and have so in a seed packet I got for free with other seeds 3 months ago. Quarantine obviously didn't check them i guess.

Eitherway if anyone in WA want some still let me know.
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Charles
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John says...
You see Cape Gooseberries quite often in nurseries around Perth. I have also seen the golden nugget seeds sold at Waldecks. Has anyone grown the ground cherries which are similar.
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amanda says...
Hi John - personally I didn't like them - i grew the "aunt mollies ground cherry" from Diggers. Mine were bitter. (I grow cape gooseberries here too and they are fine)
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Chiltern Seeds (UK) sells a cape gooseberry called "Giant" which sounds impressive. I wonder if anyone could see about importing some seeds to add some interest to the local backyard plants.
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Rev says...
unfortunately you cant import anymore

as its claimed its a Moko disease host
same as they canned tomato seed imports

theres really one one cheap legal way to bring these and tomatos in now...youd have to eat one on the plane. ill only explain more if i have to ;) lol

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
About 10 years ago, I saw bright red cape goose berry plants sold in a market garden in Melbourne so it is in the country. If I see them again I will buy and share. I thought at the time that it was not eddible and ignore.
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Charles cant spell says...
There are a few lantern plants so something that looked similar and red might be those and they are poisonous I think.....Rev/Speedy ? ... :)
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Rev says...
when you said orange my ears pricked up
but didnt want to state the obvious

Chinese lanterns
Physalis alkekengii

perennial stoloniferous physalis
theres a few vars
i bought some from some cute japanese florists in Kyoto
they didnt understand a word i said but the Yen did the talking! and i got my fruits.
back then theye were permitted imports
i grew them for sale at the nursery i was at, but its was a small town - i do wonder if any are still extant.

they are medicinal - similar activity to oxytocin

but edible? not sure
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amanda says...
Hey Rev - what is Moko disease? I have friends coming back from UK shortly...maybe they could bring some Giants back...or is that not a good idea?
Also - I very recently purchased San Marzano tomato seeds from the Re store in Leederville, Perth - and they were from Italy. Is it a recent ban then?
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Rev says...
im not sure what moko disease is,
presumably another in a long list of tomato diseases!

Yes bulsem seeds from that grocer is great. they were m favourite seed company to use in the west. good price great quantities
They must be stock come in before the ban , or slipped by after.
I think the ban came in 2008, as i was kicking myself i didnt bring back seed of these amazing pink beefsteak tomatoes i found in Kyoto grocers.
AQIS rules are always changing.
Make sure you get what tomatos you want before stock runs down, its importanat we keep our own seed now

Papaya/ Pawpaw is another that recently got shunted from permitted to restricted, luckily id already brought in 3 hawaiian vars, a peruvian and a mexican - now just need somewhere to plant them

your friends could bring them, theyd have to write the name "Physalis peruviana" on the pack, declare them to AQIS, and then a high chance of them being confiscated - unfortunately. You might catch an agent half asleep though, it happens, but as long as you fulfill your duty to declare you then you cant be fined.

luckily chillis and eggplants can stil enter freely - get what you can before doors close
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amanda says...
Hi Rev - just got my Diggers catalogue and they have some new european beefsteak varieties - the italian one "Periforme Abruzzese" and a "Hungarian Heart" (in case u are interested)

I drool over the Diggers tomatoe collection - just too many to choose from tho'!!

How do you know all this stuff Rev! Are you Speedys brother or something!? :-))

I think your idea of eating them on the plane is actually a damn good one...now to just convince my friends........
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Rev says...
hmm dont forget that 5 hour drive to gero though. You'd have to get into the imodium

lol

If i turn up with some amazing new tomato or Physalis species, just dont ask where i got them :)
There are no limits to what a Plant nut will do to get their fix
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epiphany says...
The AQIS database (ICON) says you can import Physalis peruviana but that if it's deemed to be an alternate seed host of Moko disease, it has to "be immersed in a 1% sodium hypochlorite solution (1% available chlorine) for 10 minutes (T9371) under AQIS supervision at a quarantine-approved premise". If it's from NZ, USA or Italy, there are further notes about certificates but nothing mentioned about seed from the UK. This is, of course, in addition to the normal botanical name declaration, etc...all the normal import stuff.

Moko disease causes banana wilt. According to the Dept of Ag & Food, it "affects ornamental Heliconia spp. It also affects commonly grown dessert bananas (Musa), plantains (Musa paradisiaca) and cooking bananas, especially Bluggoe (ABB)." Nothing I've read suggests Physalis peruviana are hosts of moko diesase & that it's limited to the above. I may have overlooked something, of course (so would be quite interested to hear if there are other hosts of the disease) but I'm guessing you'd be pretty safe importing Physalis peruviana seed, as long as you followed the standard procedures of having everything labelled, clean, separate, etc.

As an aside, I've found Chiltern Seeds really good. They're pretty good about making sure everything is labelled correctly if you let them know what to do in the comments section of the order form.
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Rev says...
yes! my mistake! damn i clicked 'nursery stock' by accident
no wonder its said post entry grow out needed!
here is the correct conditions as stated above

http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8533181&intCommodityId=25354&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0

thankyou epiphany!

Order away amanda! BTW do you get flea beetle there? They aere very bad in NNSW and would defoliate my Physalis every summer. Derris when they were bad fixed them.

Ive been hooked since i was 11, i have kept reading and growing and searching now for 22 years. Its all kind of crept up on me...:) often i dont know what i know till faced with a question, and then it floods back

Australia might be a big place, but in human connections its a very small place, and gardeneres are mostly approachable i find and always love to share experiences
Ive learned a great deal by stopping and starting conversations with 'I like your garden!'
highly recommended as an ice breaker!
Not related to speedy :) but we have some very enlightening conversations!
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Rev says...
WA people - you'll also be needing to check this

This list outlines WA's internal permitted and prohibited species list
for importing.

http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/PC_93105.html


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Rev says...
Thanks for the tomato offer Amanda
Im just getting to know the Dry tropics -
Winter is tomato season, though itd be nice to locate a variety hardy enough to take the wet.
I grafted my first eggplant this morning, onto a solanum torvum rootstock. Ive a few eggplanst vars and species now. They do very well.
and ive got a packet of seed to have a go with Cape gooseberry again, im not sure how itd go down here in the lowlands
The related tomatillos (Physalis ixocarpa and Physalis philadelphica) would be dry season annuals here

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kert says...
Have started to grow "GIANT" c/v of cape gooseberry and it sure is ,even the leaves.
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amanda says...
Hi Rev - no flea beetles and no fruit fly (lucky me..!) Red spider mite loves my gooseberries so I have to move them around a bit - by the time they find the new plant i have had my fill...

I am quite lucky with pests I think - I try to let nature do the controlling. I also have a big buffer zone of empty land around me. Aphid plagues in early spring - I just don't grow certain things then - it's not worth the hassle.

We are not allowed tomatillos here :-( I have always wanted to make real salsa with them. I got some seed years ago from Julie Firth but had no luck in Perth with them.

Maybe cherry tom's worth a try in the wet? I don't know of any other tougher tom than them.

Grafted eggplants? you are a keen addict!! Good on you.

I don't have any seeds at present Linda as I have no fruit yet. The plants just pop up and I keep growing them that way.

Diggers have them now - but not for NSW or Tassie.
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snottiegobble says...
The common C berry grows well here in fact self sows readily. Jo loves them but a bit too acid for my stomach. have grown tomatillos in southern Vic no probs & also Marzano toms. They are shaped like roma but 10 times the taste. would love some marzano seeds if anyone is flying over but dont eat too many eh!!
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kert says...
Earlier Rev said you cannot import Giant cape gooseberry ;in fact I imported some 2 weeks ago.
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Jantina says...
Hey kert, where did you import your Giant cape gooseberry from ? was it Chiltern Seeds?
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Rev says...
yeah rev said you cant
but mistake was pointed out
id clicked 'nursery plants' not seeds

www.aqis.gov.au/icon *

*most of what you need to know
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Jantina says...
Thanks Rev
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Jason says...
I have to pull out these things, they seem to live forever and are constantly growing up trees and self seeding all around, makes good mulch I guess :p. I tried to grow tomatillos so my wife could make some proper green salsa but I didn't have any similar luck growing them

Look in the foreground of this picture :p, there's a Cherimoya under that somewhere

http://img.skitch.com/20100510-r3gnt4mpdaryjeej37j4qqabkc.jpg
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kert says...
Yes, Chiltern Seeds ,but underline "Giant": as you'll get the standard variety by mistake.
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Jantina says...
Thanks kert, will do.
Jason, that little lot sure looks healthy. I'll try my luck with tomatillos for Annie.
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Linda says...
Thanks Amanda. Mine used to do the same, just pop up but alas no plant anymore. If you wouldn't mind letting me know when you have some in the future that would be great or if anyone else is able to help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,Linda
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Troy says...
Hi there I am in the Nt and we have Cape Gooseberrys growing all over the place however the wild type are a very small fruit approximately 7 to 10 mls across. I would be very interested in looking at a different variety. I have ordered the Giant variety from Chiltern Seeds and will wait and see how that pans out. I would love to see some pics or possibly seeds that Amanda has. 30 years of keeping the same strain is a amazing commitment.
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Stafurn says...
Hi, I'm in Perth and I love cape gooseberries. I inherited some in the small orchard of the house I bought and they die down and self seed every year (or get eaten by the sheep, who adore them) but I want to grow some in the house I'm renting. I have some shrivelled berries from my other plant, is it too late to start them?
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snottiegobble says...
Hi Stafurn, no its not too late! I have self sown ones appearing in my vegie garden at present due to the 28 parrots who also love the fruit. They are very quick growing in summer.
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J says...
http://www.cornucopiaseeds.com.au/products.php?product=Goldenberry-%252d--Aunt-Molly

This is listed as goldenberry but from the pic it looks exactly like a cape gooseberry. Eitherway it originates from poland (So it's cold tolerant)

It might count as another variety of cape gooseberry we can get in oz. Thoughts?

EDIT: The scientific name is listed as "Physalis peruviana" on that link and that is a cape gooseberry. So I guess aunt molly is another variety of cape gooseberry.

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Peter says...
Hi all,
I like to pick one point of this topic, the quarantine: Whatever plant material we want to get, I would stick with every AQUIS requirement, as those are in place for a good reason. The aim is to increase choice of plants available, but if not done properly, we increase the amount of pest and diseases (and increase the use of toxins to keep them under control). Just imagine the gardening world (and agriculture) without dieback disease or fruit fly for example - what a dream. But these are established and cannot be eradicated anymore. However, we all have to help to prevent new diseases, such as the Myrtle rust disease, which would be catastrophic for the Australian environment. I don't know the Moko disease, but I am sure nobody wants it!
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Jason says...
The bulldozers keep on flattening WA's outback mountain ranges for Chinese iron and government wants you to believe they care about the environment loooooooooooooooool. You can always breed resistance into something alive, you can't make new mountains.

AQIS has nothing to do with protecting Australian plants, only big commercial growers bank accounts :) same as it always has
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Peter says...
You cannot breed resistance against broad range pathogens, which have a host range of more than 1000 plant species. If for example Myrtle rust establishes, a very high percentage of our native plant species would be in danger. Even if you pick just one plant species such as SW Western Australian Jarrah, it is a struggle to breed resistance against dieback and there will be always resistant strains on the side of the pathogen.
Australia as an isolated island and enourmous distances between ecosystems has actually such an advantage when it comes to prevent spread of diseases compared to lets say Europe. Australia as an isolated island is at the same time very vulnerable to everything new to the continent and has a disasterous history of accidental introductions of pests or done by lack of knowledge...
Probably the most common thing of people in this forum is the love of plants, isn't it? So we should not put our gardens, agriculture and natural habitats unneccessary under risk by trying to bypass quarantine. Jason, you might have good reasons for critisising AQUIS, but this is all we have at the moment!
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Jason says...
I'm fine with man bringing plants all around with him where ever he goes, that is nature, that's the entire idea of seeds. I'm also fine with the impacts on local plants, if they can't compete with an introduced plant or get diseased, well too bad it didn't belong as a specialised native anymore. Things move around, that's just how it is. It will all settle down at some stage. We need to get over this whole idea of borders and pretend the planet is one single landmass which with the humans rapid movement now it effectively is.

Realistically even if you wanted to you wont stop movement of species long term or even short term you just can't, it's just the swine flu in slow motion. The local DSE and rangers have spent most of their time in the last decade fighting weeds that have jumped into the forest thanks to the environment changing due to planed burns but they only go backwards each time they try to reverse it with more burning. There's nothing more natural than a plant introducing itself when the conditions are right for it.

Like my wise friend used to say, you are much better off with an Earth covered in weeds than nothing :). I'm very pro plants obviously but I don't really care about borders or restricting what grows where, if it wants to grow where it lands then it should grow, if you could introduce a plant that would be happy to grow out in the outback to reintroduce some decent amount of life and rainfall out there wouldn't anyone jump at it?:).

I'm not being argumentative or something and I admit I'm quite weird verging on properly crazy even, but that's how I feel about it :)
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Peter says...
Hi Jason, there are always surprises when looking at other people views! Yes, it is deeply ingrained into our human nature to move plants around, but if we learn from mistakes in the past, we can do this much better now with more knowledge we have! However, every country should try to conserve some native vegetation for everyone on the globe to enjoy.
With your comments about the weeds, I am not sure, if you forget about the devastation of pathogens when they are introduced into a new environment. This is not only a matter of native vegetation versus other plants maybe better adapted, it is also about our food security - what happen if crops are attacked by new nasty fungi, mould, nematodes, etc.
I think there is no way around: Pro-plant, anti-pathogen and therefore pro-quarantine for the sake of the entire globe! And we do some favor too for our animal friends all around the globe.
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Jason says...
I agree with what you are saying, I'm just seeing it from a different angle :)
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snottiegobble says...
When you receive catalogues from other parts of the country & the plants listed have " not available WA" it makes you wonder because many of them
such as potatoes & onions have the very same counterparts already here but under another variety name. Also the quarantine dept. tends to lump many plants into the same bracket as weeds for example sorrel! English sorrel is a noxious weed that is very hard to eradicate due to its roots that stretch like snapping rubber bands & it certainly deserves to be kept to a minimum. French sorrel on the other hand is a tasty salad & soup vegetable ( ask the French) & because of its clumpimg habit very easy to control & should not be banned from WA, but it is!
Consequently what do people do in their frustration? You know the answer!
BTW There is English sorrel in my garden & I certainly didnt put it there!


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kert says...
Yes, indeed Aunt Molly , comes from Poland.Her real name is Mollykova Zsierincyzki. Having tasted her I'm sending her back there with a gift of cane toads to show my gratitude.PS Aunt Molly is Physalia pruinosa not edulis.
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J says...
You are right, Kert. The seeds I ordered (along with a whole batch of other seeds) were about 3 bucks, so it's not a big deal.
I'm a little skeptical as to your judgements in regards to taste as you seem to hold decent fruit like Babaco & Jujube in low regard.
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Jason says...
Getting back to cape gooseberry, they are actually an established weed in my garden and have been for quite a few years. Just the normal seedling variation within them throws a few plants that are MUCH better tasting than the others (and much better than the original was). So make sure you have tasted lots of different ones before you write them all off.

P.S I still don't eat even the better ones, but other people like them :). I appreciate them for the free mulch
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J says...
Yeah I grew some Cape gooseberry this year from seeds from eden seeds. I didn't really take care of them much and still got some fruit. Hassle free little plant to grow. Two thumbs up and so forth.
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kert says...
You misunderstood me ,J. I love cape gooseberry; it's just Aunt Molly I have trouble with.
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amanda says...
Is there a verdict in, on the Giant, yet? Has anyone tasted the fruit?
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J says...
Kert I understood that you were referring to Aunt Molly. Everyone has different tastes. I'll make my own judgement once those seeds grow. But you've lowered my expectations quite well.
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snottiegobble says...
Aunt Molly is so upset about your comments she has decided to have lapband surgery to make herself more appealing. It will cost $10,000 so hope youre up for it Kert! :)
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snottiegobble says...
The CGs I had in Victoria were rubbish compared to the sweet ones inherited here in WA. Just like their cousins tomatoes I believe they can vary greatly even individual plants! Of course climate, soil, fertilising methods etc would also play a part so Aunt Molly could be an attractive tasty sort under the right conditions!:)
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Linda Cuffe says...
Amanda, In July last year we spoke on here and you offered to send me some cape gooseberry seeds and with all that was going on I clean forgot to send you my email for contact. If you could email me ellemaac at gmail dot com that would be great. Thanks, Linda
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amanda says...
Hi Linda, I have one plant just "staying alive" in the orchard - and have not planted anything as yet. We are still waiting for the rains to start :-( I will keep your email tho' - the plant in the orchard should take off before too long.
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kert says...
A bit leaden ,Snott. Let me do the jokes, OK? Your forte is unintentional humour.
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snottiegobble says...
See what I mean, he just cant help himself can he?? Er, where is "sy7dney" I wonder?
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John Mc says...
I have had the giant growing here since spring. The plants are growing well but no sign of any fruit. I obtained the seed from a popular forum member. Looks like it needs more time.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Mine haven't shown any signs of maturing either. Hoping they may do better in their second season. I used to have better luck with the tried and true standard variety in cold Victoria than these imported ones.
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amanda says...
Thanks guys....let us know how they go? I am really interested in these :)
Are your plants in full sun?
Joe at Tas1 let me collect some seed from his huge plant out the back...lovely fruit. It only got morning sun and dappled afternoon (and the ground was very damp - like there was a leaky tap in there) - so it didn't have as much fruit as what mine get (in full sun) - but the fruit was larger and juicier (mine smaller and stronger flavoured)
I am going to see if I can get his seeds going this season.
My last plant was in the veggie patch of all places - and it went mental on all the goodies and water there.
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amanda says...
Linda Cuffe - are u still here? I am getting my cape gooseberries up and running now :) If u email me I will have some seed in a month or so (and anyone else)
sunley (at) wn (dot) com (dot) au

I would prefer to send them out all at once as I get a bit forgetful/busy otherwise... :D
(and yes Jantina, Julie and Adam Guana - I haven't forgotten your seeds! Just been going crazy in the garden lately with all this glorious rain! :)
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amanda says...
Hi Linda! I haven't forgotten! They are finally ripening now - trouble is I have to eat the first dozen, I just can't resist them? :D I have 8 loaded plants on the go - they are just slow to ripen as yet.
I do have one that is producing quite large pods - but depending on the size of the fruit inside - it might be the one worth waiting for.
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snottiegobble says...
Would be interested in larger fruit too Amanda! BTW all guava varieties are up! Didnt sow till beginning of Oct in greenhouse & they had a good germination rate! karakaberries also showing now!
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amanda says...
Awesome SG!! I was so hoping the karakaberries would grow 4 u. It will be interesting to see what the fruit will be like :)
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ringelstrumpf says...
a question to the AQUIs requirement mentioned above: if they say that a seed must be dipped in whatever poisonous solution, who does that? I reckon a (mostly organig ) seed supplier won't and AQUIS would not do that either.
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Jimmy says...
AQIS (correct spelling) accredite fumigation companies to do the work on their behalf at your expense.
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ringelstrumpf says...
that means nothing for a homegrower.
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Linda says...
Hi Amanda,

I am sssoooooo jealous you are eating them!!! Yum, yum!! Hoping you received my email with my address. If not let me know. So looking forward to some seeds.

Thanks,
Linda
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Stafurn says...
I have sorrel, we bought it at a nursery. Its the tasty herb type :)
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Stafurn says...
LOL I got given a cape gooseberry for my birthday in May, and during a storm some of the lovely berries fell off. I found a few days later in interesting places, so I buried them in the garden. Resilient little buggers came up :)

I have one massive bush growing out of an empty chook pen at my block as well, which isn't bad for a self sown. I'll see what the berries are like and save some seeds if they're decent.
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Julie says...
stafurn, which nursery? I lost my sorrel some time ago, and haven't seen a replacement.
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Stafurn says...
Its a Renaissance branded herb, I *think* it was from a nursery in the hills. I've only had it a few months. Its doing fabulously, but the caterpillars quite like it. I'll have to ask my mum where we got it I'm afraid I can't remember. I can try splitting it later on if you like?
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Julie says...
Thanks Stafurn, I live in the hills and will have a another look.

Thanks also for the offer to split it up. I tried to grow some of snottiegobble's seed, but they didn't germinate. The little plant he sent me was doing well till I had to leave for three days in very hot weather last summer (bushfire). It couldn't take the lack of water and gave up.
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amanda says...
Hey Linda - snap! Your seeds are drying on the window sill as I type :) will pop in the post in next day or two.

I was waiting on the bigger fruit - the weather is still really mild here so they are taking forever to ripen (damn it! lol) Sorry it's taken me so long.
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amanda says...
If only all my CG's could be double-headers! What a feast :) Is twinning something passed on in the genes of fruit too do u think..? I haven't eaten it yet...
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J says...
I was in Mumbai recently and saw some fruit stalls selling cape gooseberries. I bought some and they were much thicker in texture and sweeter than the cape gooseberries I'm growing.
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J says...
oh, and here is a pic of some of those mumbai cape gooseberries I was talking about!
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Jantina says...
Seeds J, seeds, did you get any?
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amanda says...
J, they look like regular C.G's...? Not sure what the difference is - but i have tasted wildly different CG's depending on their growing conditions (and size of the fruit..)..?

(ps for eg: mine are at their biggest and sweetest in autumn and spring..over summer the fruit is much smaller - but much 'tougher' and intense in flavour...and that's off the same plant...)
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Jason says...
Amanda all mine come from the same original plant and the seedlings can range anywhere from barely edible to pretty good even growing within a meter from each other. They are for all intent an established weed in my garden now
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amanda says...
Hi Jason :) Yea - mine don't go weedy outside of my reticulated areas at all...too dry here. The very Best one I tasted was next to a drippy tap and had afternoon shade...it reminded me very much of mint, oddly..?

Grew that seed here with different results.

Anyway - just ate some that had dried naturally in their pod on my bush - they make an intense "sultana"...!?
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snottiegobble says...
Mine self seed everywhere there is decent soil or potting mix. The 28s (Port Lincoln parrots) love `em & spread the seeds around! Hell! big clap of thunder right overhead!
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J says...
Amanda, Those cape gooseberries look the same but the thickness/density of the flesh was much higher than any aussie cape gooseberries I have tasted. Overall I thought they were much better than any I've had in oz and was actually kind of surprised to see them being sold in markets in Mumbai. Even more surprising: All my relatives knew what the fruit was and knew it by its correct name. When I lived in India over 15 years ago, I never ever saw a single cape gooseberry fruit.
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snottiegobble says...
J, I think they respond to continued warmth because the ones here are far tastier than what I grew in SW Vic.
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Nick says...
Generous harvest of cape gooseberries, delicious too!
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Nick says...
Generous harvest of cape gooseberries, delicious too! Im glad theyre worth it because theyve taken over my vegie patch.
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Stafurn says...
I've found the ones in my small orchard are delicious and sweet, but the self seeded one in my chook yard is a lot more tart, and some of the berries seem to have dry spots on them. Funny because the bush in the chook yard is far bigger and way more vigorous. Mine seem to like a bit of shade, the potted one I have is really suffering in the heat we've had recently. They grow easily enough though, I planted a berry in the garden for fun and it shot up with several healthy little plants!!!
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Lina says...
I have a cape gooseberry plant in pot. There are a lot of flowers on it. But the flower stalk with little fruit fall down two or three days after the flower fall down. Anyone know what's reason. Too much water? Not enough sun? Need fertilizer?
Thank you so much.
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snottiegobble says...
Lina. CGs do appreciate fertiliser because they grow so fast! Maybe you need to pot up to a bigger size as well, or try them in the ground. Well manured, wetting granules should make a difference. I use a blend of manures ( Mumby Magic), pelletised chook & blood & bone. Cape gooseberries respond to a fertile damp soil & so will reward you, I promise!
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Lina says...
Thank you snottiegobble. Actually, I have two plants. the other plant is smaller but full of fruits. this one is a bigger plant with smaller flowers in a bigger pot and still no fruit now. Do you think is it possible that some CGs has no fruit at all.
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snottiegobble says...
No Lina, just like everything else that bears fruit some take longer than others. Strangely enough the small one may have damage somewhere & is providing an abundance of fruit before it dies!
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gus says...
Just arrived in south Africa and tasted my first cape gooseberry. I have to say I found them a little tart and dissapointing. DOn't think I will bother growing them!
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Nick T says...
Don't give up on cape gooseberries just yet gus, the home-grown ones are miles better than shop ones. I tried some in France and they were nothing like mine, a much sharper taste. Ripened during summer and eaten while warm they taste amazing, the jam is even better! :)
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asder says...
You may have more regard for cape goose. after you see eBay ;someone wants $58 for 250grams of cape gooseberries!!.
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24th July 2012 9:27am
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Mike says...
I might rush out and have a gander at my goose, because it had some fruit before.At that price maybe I like it again.
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Julie says...
Surely that was a misprint! $58?
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Roleystone WA
24th July 2012 9:10pm
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M Nash says...
Some crazy backyarder in Nimbin probably extoled that it cures cancer, Word gets around and a weed becomes a cash crop. Im happy, Mine has gone the way of the bloody rasberies that I still cant kill after two years of assotiate.
$58 a KG? send me the money and Ill pump out the parcels :)
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bucky says...
Firefly, Golden Nugget are not cape gooseberries, they are tomatoes. There is a a cape gooseberry called Golden Berry brought out by Erica Vale seeds.
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2nd March 2013 2:26am
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Julie says...
bucky, they are both - tomatoes and Cape gooseberries. There is also a pumpkin callen Golden nugget.
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Mike says...
There is a jackfruit,mandarin,loquat and mango called gold nugget as well.
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VF says...
If you're on a good name, stick with it :)... (doesn't matter if we all get confused)
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JohnMc1 says...
Mike, you mentioned Gold Nugget mandarin, are they in Australia as yet? Very sought after o'seas. Hope it won't be kept from us like the Sumo.
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MaryT says...
John I've seen Sumo in our local Woolies - the fruit that is, not the tree.
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JohnMc1 says...
Yes Mary, sorry, I could have been a little more clearer, I meant propagating material, no so much the fruit. The Sumo fruit is becoming more available as the trees mature. I bought 6 kilo's last August, for the fruit, but my main aim was to get Sumo seed. I ended up with 8 seeds and their seedlings are doing well.
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MaryT says...
Wow, good effort, JohnMac1. Just goes to show when there's a will, there's a way.
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JohnMc1 says...
I posted this pic up elsewhere. The Sumo's are 8 months old.
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Tracee says...
Nellie Kelly little lantern cape gooseberry is 4.95 at bunnings
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