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John Mc starts with ... Is anyone familiar with or growing Chuoi Cau banana? I purchased one the other day from a plant nursery in Sydney. Apparently, from what I could make out, it's a very popular banana in Viet Nam. The skin is paper thin and very aromatic. That's what the nurseryman told me, are they worth the growing space?, it wasn't cheap. | About the Author JohnMc1 11th March 2011 11:21pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jujubeforesale says... Hi John, How are you? Chuoi cau is monkey babana or sucrier. I have one young plant growing in my garden. I Started planting out in Octerber 2010 so it is very small about 50 cm tall. This banana is very small but very sweet and has paper thin skin. I am not sure if it survives the Melbourne winter or not but it is a very tasty babana for sure. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 12th March 2011 11:59am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Thanks for all that info guys, I couldn't find that much on it at all. I bought it because the nurseryman was so sincere and was so convincing about the fruit. @ Lucy, Hi, Yes he did mention something about being a monkey banana and super sweet. @ Trikus, I'll have to find out where he got it from, as nice as the guy is, I don't think the answer will be forthcomming though. He still had a few left when I was there last Wed. The nursery is smack in the middle of a very strong asian community in Sydney. So no doubt he has access to exotic material not normally available to nurseries. Other banana var in stock come from tissue culture. @ Michael, I must have got it cheap, $45, about 300mm high, he has more. Damn, I should've asked him about Gac. | About the Author JohnMc1 12th March 2011 4:33pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Yes Michael, the nurseryman Kim from the local nursery said to browze the fruit shops for that very banana. I could'nt find any last Wednesday at all fitting that description. There were plenty of fruit shops down the arcades and plenty of bananas but nothing very small. I wasn't game to ask anyone because no one was speaking english. I tried with one shopkeeper but she couldn't understand me. I think I need to go next time with a guide. Any volunteers? I wish I lived closer to Cabramatta, I loved every minute I was there. My head is still spinning. | About the Author JohnMc1 12th March 2011 10:45pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VLR says... I have a couple of monkey banana suckers here in Perth that I bought in December. They're over a metre high and were $30 for 2 (initially $20 each but since I only was going to get one he threw in another for $10). I found them through Gumtree and bought them from an Aussie guy who got them from a Vietnamese guy. He had a huge collection of fruit trees/plants on his block and let me try some of the fruit before I bought them. He said they're very cold tolerant and they tasted awesome. They have that intense but not overly sweet flavour that reminds me of holidays in Asia. And they don't go all "powdery" or dry like Cavendish fruit. Definitely worth it! | About the Author VLR Perth 13th March 2011 12:38pm #UserID: 2329 Posts: 35 View All VLR's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Joanna Ha says... Hi Michael, Chuoi Cau is a popular banana type in Vietnam. A bunch is about 400 - 1000g. And the banana size ia bout a thumb or slightly bigger. You are right about its paper skin and sweetness. And the banana inside has a dark yellow color. Only I doubt if the taste is instense like what they are when growing in tropical climat. But good luck with you Chuoi Cau, which is also my favorite fruit/ | About the Author Joanna Ha Wollongong 15th March 2011 3:39pm #UserID: 5054 Posts: 2 View All Joanna Ha's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Hi Laisla, Canley Vale Nursery on Canley Vale Road. He only had a few back in March, It looked like he dug them out himself and potted them up in a heavy muck, but they were doing alright when I bought mine. Good luck, I hope he still has one for you. They are the nicest people to deal with. | About the Author JohnMc1 5th July 2011 2:44pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... If they are monkey bananas there is a plantation at mission beach and apparently they need more care than other bananas. John any interest in differnt gingers? I have some very good varieties of tumeric,galangal,krachai (Boesenbergia rotunda),Zinziber zurumbet,potato ginger and another pungent asian one.This is the time of year I should spread some of them and taro out. | About the Author Cairns 5th July 2011 7:14pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Trikus would be better on this but here's my take on it.As we have done away with many of the real names it is confusing.Lady fingers seem to be all the small stocky pisang style bananas with sugars,ducasse,africans and many more local names being used.Cavendish are the williams and dwarf chinese and most of the rest have their real names.Monkey banana is also a local name I believe.My thai bananas are sweet, thin skinned and pasty so get called sugar bananas. The angular thick skinned ones often get called african sugars. | About the Author Cairns 28th December 2011 12:04pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... so many names for so few bananas ! Chuoi Cau = Pisang Mas = Sucrier = Monkey Finger = Kluai Khai very different to Lady Finger here in Australia though the name is used for above overseas .. Ladyfingers are not allowed in my area so I have no experince with them , but have heard that there are many old types and they are excellent backyard fruits down south . | About the Author trikus tattered tropics 29th December 2011 10:05am #UserID: 5279 Posts: 121 View All trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Salsta says... Hi JLR Can you please let me know where you were able to buy Chuoi Cau suckers in Perth? I'm in Victoria but know plenty of people in Perth who'd love to get some. Also, LoveFruit, I got your sucker from Thao. Thank you both for that. Sadly it didn't go well and has now rotted, so I'm now looking for a sucker again. Preferably one with good roots if I can find one. I have several varieties of cool climate bananas since, so I'm getting good experience growing them that I didn't have before, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to find another Chuoi Cau sucker to plant late spring or summer. If anyone is, or could be, able to help me with that please let me know. The Chuoi Cau is the banana I'm keenest to grow. | About the Author Salsta Gippsland 14th June 2014 9:28am #UserID: 6529 Posts: 33 View All Salsta's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Salsta I asked at Canley Vale today and they said they will have more in spring, though it sounds like stock will be limited. By the way do not click onto anything on the Canley Vale Nursery website because it has been hi jacked by the design company; the matter is in the hands of Department of Fair Trading. Beware if you decide to deal with this company. If you click on anything on the Canley Vale Nursery website it will go to this design company. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 14th June 2014 10:41am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Salsta says... Jujubeforesale, can you let us know how your chuoi cau is going? Has it dealt with the winters in Victoria so far? I'm figuring that the more time before I get one, the more experience I'll have with banana plants in general, so I should be better at keeping it growing when I finally get one. | About the Author Salsta Gippsland 11th March 2015 9:51am #UserID: 6529 Posts: 33 View All Salsta's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Salsta says... Thanks, Thithi! I've gone form having none at this time last year to having quite a few, with a few more coming in September, so I'd rather wait till I can get one that's clearly the right sort. I appreciate the thought very much. Someone in Victoria will get one growing soon enough and then we can share the pups around. Cheers! | About the Author Salsta Gippsland 11th March 2015 2:15pm #UserID: 6529 Posts: 33 View All Salsta's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Salsta says... Thanks JohnMc!! I love their form as a plant, their flowers, the fact that their flowers attract birds and bats and of course their fruit. They take up very little garden footprint for what they give back too. The ones I have in now are also softening the edges of the garden beds and I like that very much. I've popped a couple of photo's on here so you can see what I mean. Once they all mature I expect they'll fruit at different times, so it'll be a bit like a lucky dip. I do expect they'll fruit too, as they've grown steadily, barring the cold weather between May and September. They weren't even damaged by two freezes last year. It's rare to even get a frost here, so I was glad to see how robust they were right up front.
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JohnMc1 says... If that's a north facing brick wall you are half way there, no frost AND a masonary wall radiating heat, a winning combination for your banana plants. Another cold hardy banana is a Blue Java (Ice Cream), probably would be a better option over a chuoi cau, and I might be able to russle one up quickly if you preferred. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 11th March 2015 8:03pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Salsta says... It is a north facing brick wall indeed. There's room for one more banana near it and if/when I find the elusive chuoi cau, it'll get first dibs at it. I do have a Blue Java already. They sounded delicious and cold hardy, so I went straight for one. In Picture two, the bananas from left to right are: Pisanag Ceylan (quite young and mostly hidden behind the asparagus), Dwarf Red Dacca (got from Bunnings last summer and growing like mad), Goldfinger (got from BSB and also growing wonderfully). Around the curve is the Blue Java. It had its roots excavated by the blackbirds here on the west side and then got blown over by a severe westerly but with the orange tree there it simply rested against it and kept all the roots it's sunk on the eastern side well in the ground. It's now staked to prevent that happening again and you can just see the stake if you look hard. It's got piles of compost back over its roots now and a bit of a guard to stop the birds, as they tend to obsess over one spot once they decide to attack. I've taken their obsession with the tropical zone as validation that there are plenty of worms there doing their thing. Lazarus the unknown came up too close to the Goldfinger and when it was being transplanted, I took a picture of the hole and the top of the soil profile is far, far better than the red clay beneath. The clay was moist too, so all the soil building efforts are really paying off. The Blue Java and Goldfinger were the same size when I got them from BSB but the Blue Java has outgrown the Goldfinger by about a foot so far. All of them are thriving. It's just wonderful.
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Linton says... According to Blue Sky, who are supposed to be the experts, state that their bananas can't be grown in pots. They say this is because the plants will get too big and become top heavy with all the bunches of fruit. I was more concerned about the roots having enough room to grow. Can you please ratify this and how extensive the root system is for banana trees. The ones I have are supposed to be Monkey Bananas (see pictures) so not sure if that means they are Chuoi Cau or not, but they do have pink stems at the bottom. The parent trees are about 5 metres high.
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JohnMc1 says... The ones I have in pots are in a soiless mix so size isn't really an issue. The 25lit Bonsai bags that Daley's sell just happens to fit inside a family size car tyre that prevents them from falling over in other than a very strong wind. If your banana plants are Chuoi Cau, they must have been grown in shade because I'm guessing of the missing red colouring like mine are, having been grown in full sun. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 16th March 2015 9:00pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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ElaineC says... Hi everyone, I was excited to come across a lady selling what seems to be a chuoi cau banana sucker. I bought it of course, as it's my favourite banana! I'm in western Sydney, with clay loam soil. I'm planning to prep the ground as follows: deep bell shaped hole, sugarcane mulch and scoria along base, lots of compost, manure and gypsum to backfill? Situated next to fence and in-ground compost bin. It's my first time growing bananas. Seeing as it seems trickier to grow, can anyone please share some tips on how you cared for your chuoi cau? Thank you banana experts! | About the Author ElaineC Wetherill Park NSW 23rd March 2017 2:18pm #UserID: 15813 Posts: 2 View All ElaineC's Edible Fruit Trees |
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