DellDGM
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28th June 2007 12:33am
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Correy says...
Here is a picture of some coffee plants I am growing in pots.
If you are able to provide ideal conditions such as low wind and very sunny. Then I would get a mixture of Catui, K7 and Arabica and see which ones are best down there.
If it gets cold and windy I probably wouldn't get the cactui or if you do, just take care of it until it is established. The K7 is very hardy and resistant to the coffee rust
Here is a list of the Coffee Trees that we have.
Here is a picture of some coffee plants I am growing in pots.
If you are able to provide ideal conditions such as low wind and very sunny. Then I would get a mixture of Catui, K7 and Arabica and see which ones are best down there.
If it gets cold and windy I probably wouldn't get the cactui or if you do, just take care of it until it is established. The K7 is very hardy and resistant to the coffee rust
Here is a list of the Coffee Trees that we have.
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28th June 2007 10:53am
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Greg says...
Check this link out for what a male flower looks like http://trees.stanford.edu/images/Ceratonia_gal/Ceratonia_gal-Images/1.jpg
The female flower will not have any yellow male anthers, but will have noticable female stigmas. Daleys will have a bisexual grafted variety Clifford available in October
Check this link out for what a male flower looks like http://trees.stanford.edu/images/Ceratonia_gal/Ceratonia_gal-Images/1.jpg
The female flower will not have any yellow male anthers, but will have noticable female stigmas. Daleys will have a bisexual grafted variety Clifford available in October
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5th July 2007 4:56pm
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Correy says...
Just letting you guys know that my K7 coffee plants that I am growing in pots are pushing forth flowers after only 2 years. I am very happy I will keep you updated and add a few pictures when they are in bloom.
Just letting you guys know that my K7 coffee plants that I am growing in pots are pushing forth flowers after only 2 years. I am very happy I will keep you updated and add a few pictures when they are in bloom.
Correy
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24th August 2007 2:14pm
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25th September 2007 8:02pm
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Correy says...
Here are pictures of my K7 coffee Tree after 2 years of growing in a 35 litre bonsai bag.
You can't capture the smell of the flowers in the picture however when you walk past you can smell it from a distance and it is very pleasant like a frangipani.
Picture 1: Just before the flowers open (they can take about a month getting to this stage.)
Picture 2: All of a sudden they bloom and as you can see they are very attractive white flowers with a full and fragrant smell. (Day 1 of the flowers opening)
Picture 3: This is Day 2 and the smell is even greater now so I often see bees and flies getting the nectar.
The flowers only last about 4 days and then they go brown, wither and fall off.
After another couple of weeks you will notice that where it flowered it starts to bulge as a tiny bean starts forming.
I think it takes about 5-9 months before the beans are totally formed and ready to pick... I hope it is worth the wait and I will keep you updated with pics.
A great idea for an outdoor coffee shop would be to have real coffee trees in pots as the plants do look amazing at times.
Here are pictures of my K7 coffee Tree after 2 years of growing in a 35 litre bonsai bag.
You can't capture the smell of the flowers in the picture however when you walk past you can smell it from a distance and it is very pleasant like a frangipani.
Picture 1: Just before the flowers open (they can take about a month getting to this stage.)
Picture 2: All of a sudden they bloom and as you can see they are very attractive white flowers with a full and fragrant smell. (Day 1 of the flowers opening)
Picture 3: This is Day 2 and the smell is even greater now so I often see bees and flies getting the nectar.
The flowers only last about 4 days and then they go brown, wither and fall off.
After another couple of weeks you will notice that where it flowered it starts to bulge as a tiny bean starts forming.
I think it takes about 5-9 months before the beans are totally formed and ready to pick... I hope it is worth the wait and I will keep you updated with pics.
A great idea for an outdoor coffee shop would be to have real coffee trees in pots as the plants do look amazing at times.
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Correy
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31st October 2007 11:33am
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31st October 2007 1:58pm
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31st October 2007 5:23pm
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Correy says...
Hi DellDGM, that is our brand new Black Sapote - Bernicker It is grafted and already has the flowers forming for next years fruit. It will be interesting to see what happens.
I have eaten some amazing black sapotes this year and can't wait to start picking my own.
Hi DellDGM, that is our brand new Black Sapote - Bernicker It is grafted and already has the flowers forming for next years fruit. It will be interesting to see what happens.
I have eaten some amazing black sapotes this year and can't wait to start picking my own.
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
31st October 2007 6:20pm
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DellDGM says...
It looks very healthy. I have managed to keep all of my 7 new trees this year except my panama berry - I was a bit shocked It seemed to come through the unusual cold snap and I thought I was actually going to loose the coffee but it came good but the panama suddenly dropped all its leaves and shrivelled up to a stick - oh well 6 out of seven (many of which were tropical) is better than I expected.
It looks very healthy. I have managed to keep all of my 7 new trees this year except my panama berry - I was a bit shocked It seemed to come through the unusual cold snap and I thought I was actually going to loose the coffee but it came good but the panama suddenly dropped all its leaves and shrivelled up to a stick - oh well 6 out of seven (many of which were tropical) is better than I expected.
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Correy says...
I use a potting mix because of the drainage and also feed them with dynamic lifter and a bit of citrus fertilizer.
I have the K7 variety (In the pictures) which I have had for the longest and also some of the catui Dwarf coffee varieties.
I made the mistake which caused one of the catuies to die which was I put sugar hay at the bottom of the pot expecting it to break down however instead it just acted as a sponge and stopped any drainage.
After I realised I re-potted with good potting mix and they were fine.
I got 3 of the K7 coffee plants at the same time and they are all in different sized pots. The one in the smaller sized pot has grown less however it has flowered and developed the beans much faster then the others.
So perhaps the smaller the pot the quicker you get the beans and the smaller the coffee tree.
If I was to plant them in the ground eventually like yourself I would still go with the Catui variety because it is not much fun getting a ladder to pick the coffee beans when you can get the dwarf coffee variety and walk out and pick them at head height. Because I am growing the K7 variety in a pot it will remain small.
I use a potting mix because of the drainage and also feed them with dynamic lifter and a bit of citrus fertilizer.
I have the K7 variety (In the pictures) which I have had for the longest and also some of the catui Dwarf coffee varieties.
I made the mistake which caused one of the catuies to die which was I put sugar hay at the bottom of the pot expecting it to break down however instead it just acted as a sponge and stopped any drainage.
After I realised I re-potted with good potting mix and they were fine.
I got 3 of the K7 coffee plants at the same time and they are all in different sized pots. The one in the smaller sized pot has grown less however it has flowered and developed the beans much faster then the others.
So perhaps the smaller the pot the quicker you get the beans and the smaller the coffee tree.
If I was to plant them in the ground eventually like yourself I would still go with the Catui variety because it is not much fun getting a ladder to pick the coffee beans when you can get the dwarf coffee variety and walk out and pick them at head height. Because I am growing the K7 variety in a pot it will remain small.
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12th November 2007 10:12am
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2nd December 2007 9:21am
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Melanie says...
Can you tell me what kind of position, light and moisture the coffee dwarf is suited to? I have just ordered 5 from your online shop.
Can you tell me what kind of position, light and moisture the coffee dwarf is suited to? I have just ordered 5 from your online shop.
Melanie
balgowlah, NSW
20th December 2007 7:59am
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Correy says...
Dwarf Coffee Tree Position
A sunny site with protection from strong wind.
Light
They love the sun
Moisture and Soil Conditions
They like moisture however it is better if the soil is free draining. If you are planting them in the ground it would be ideal to do a drainage test.
Here is a video daleys made on it:
How to Plant a Tree
The soil is better if it is enriched with fertiliser and manure. Also it is advisable to cover with thick mulch to stop any weeds.
You will have to send us a few pictures Melanie when your dwarf coffee tree starts producing. My beans are the right size now I am just waiting for them to turn red.
Further Reading:
Tag: Coffee Tree
Grow your own Coffee
Coffee in Pots
Green Thumb Sunday Coffee Beans
Dwarf Coffee Tree Position
A sunny site with protection from strong wind.
Light
They love the sun
Moisture and Soil Conditions
They like moisture however it is better if the soil is free draining. If you are planting them in the ground it would be ideal to do a drainage test.
Here is a video daleys made on it:
How to Plant a Tree
The soil is better if it is enriched with fertiliser and manure. Also it is advisable to cover with thick mulch to stop any weeds.
You will have to send us a few pictures Melanie when your dwarf coffee tree starts producing. My beans are the right size now I am just waiting for them to turn red.
Further Reading:
Tag: Coffee Tree
Grow your own Coffee
Coffee in Pots
Green Thumb Sunday Coffee Beans
Correy
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20th December 2007 8:09am
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Kathryn Rowe says...
Hi Correy,
I am obsessed with the perfect cup of coffee. I would love to grow my own but live in the western suberbs of Melbourne.
Do you think it possible I might be able to grow and harvest my own coffee (given the occasional frost -1 in Aug and Sept)?
I don't have heaps of space and was very interested to hear you grow yours in pots.
Hi Correy,
I am obsessed with the perfect cup of coffee. I would love to grow my own but live in the western suberbs of Melbourne.
Do you think it possible I might be able to grow and harvest my own coffee (given the occasional frost -1 in Aug and Sept)?
I don't have heaps of space and was very interested to hear you grow yours in pots.
Kathryn Rowe
Albion Victoria
16th January 2008 11:42am
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Correy says...
Hi Kathryn,
Daleys often sends coffee trees down to victoria to people like yourself willing to give it a go.
So if you are willing to baby them until they are established I think it is well worth the trouble.
Coffee trees hate wind most of all. So perhaps find a place where it is protected and you can perhaps radiate it some heat for those colder months.
Frosts are a worry but there are ways around that such as reflective aluminum.
Hi Kathryn,
Daleys often sends coffee trees down to victoria to people like yourself willing to give it a go.
So if you are willing to baby them until they are established I think it is well worth the trouble.
Coffee trees hate wind most of all. So perhaps find a place where it is protected and you can perhaps radiate it some heat for those colder months.
Frosts are a worry but there are ways around that such as reflective aluminum.
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16th January 2008 11:57am
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Logan Village
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Correy says...
Adrianna, I would love to see your picture. Can you compress it before you upload it?
If you read what Sonya has to say on our blog here she goes into some great details on preparing the coffee from your coffee plant
Adrianna, I would love to see your picture. Can you compress it before you upload it?
If you read what Sonya has to say on our blog here she goes into some great details on preparing the coffee from your coffee plant
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16th January 2008 6:51pm
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melbourne, Victoria
17th January 2008 2:32pm
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31st January 2008 11:41am
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Correy says...
My coffee beans are starting to go red and I am so very proud. Now I know why they are called coffee cherries at this stage.
The Wiki on coffee processing says:
That the taste of the coffee is highly influenced by the time they are picked.
In some coffee plantations apparently they pick the green beans because they get paid by the basket load which accounts for the lower quality.
Has anyone got a spare hulling machine they don't need anymore :)
My coffee beans are starting to go red and I am so very proud. Now I know why they are called coffee cherries at this stage.
The Wiki on coffee processing says:
That the taste of the coffee is highly influenced by the time they are picked.
In some coffee plantations apparently they pick the green beans because they get paid by the basket load which accounts for the lower quality.
Has anyone got a spare hulling machine they don't need anymore :)
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19th March 2008 3:36pm
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26th March 2008 2:41pm
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Correy says...
We are picking the coffee now and drying them out.
Picture 2 is one of the Dwarf Coffee Trees with my niece. They grow quite well in suburban Brisbane don't you think.
My experience is that they are very very very sensitive to wind. The moment they are in the wind the leaves start looking sick and yellowy.
Picture 1 is a handful of the beans.
Picture 3 is a comparison of the just picked coffee beans compared to the coffee beans which have been in the sun for about 2 weeks.
I am keeping them in the sun for about 4 weeks before dehusking them and then giving them a good hot roasting on a wok.
Any hints on this process would be great.
We are picking the coffee now and drying them out.
Picture 2 is one of the Dwarf Coffee Trees with my niece. They grow quite well in suburban Brisbane don't you think.
My experience is that they are very very very sensitive to wind. The moment they are in the wind the leaves start looking sick and yellowy.
Picture 1 is a handful of the beans.
Picture 3 is a comparison of the just picked coffee beans compared to the coffee beans which have been in the sun for about 2 weeks.
I am keeping them in the sun for about 4 weeks before dehusking them and then giving them a good hot roasting on a wok.
Any hints on this process would be great.
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13th April 2008 9:08am
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22nd May 2008 10:12pm
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Correy says...
Wow Diny that coffee tree is incredibly healthy. The flowers smell amazing too hey. Have you done any harvesting or roasting? If you watched my video you might notice that I am in need of a bit of help. Also you should have the red cherries on it about now do you have a picture with the beans on it?
Wow Diny that coffee tree is incredibly healthy. The flowers smell amazing too hey. Have you done any harvesting or roasting? If you watched my video you might notice that I am in need of a bit of help. Also you should have the red cherries on it about now do you have a picture with the beans on it?
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23rd May 2008 7:49am
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trikus says...
Nice pic Mum . We had a meeting of the Rare Fruit Council and did not realize that we had to supply tea & coffee for all the people . Lucky there is always lots of tealeaves , and we had a jar of coffee berries . I spent the whole meeting quietly peeling of the parchment , and when it was all over fired up a small gas burner and roasted the coffee in a wok . It sure tasted good and impressed everyone .
Nice pic Mum . We had a meeting of the Rare Fruit Council and did not realize that we had to supply tea & coffee for all the people . Lucky there is always lots of tealeaves , and we had a jar of coffee berries . I spent the whole meeting quietly peeling of the parchment , and when it was all over fired up a small gas burner and roasted the coffee in a wok . It sure tasted good and impressed everyone .
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23rd May 2008 6:11pm
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Diny says...
I just raced out to take this photo, it is pitch dark, don't know if I stood on any snakes or toads but these are the beans. They are ripening very slowly, I can pick just a few at the time. I dry them and peel the outer husks of while watching TV. I sell seedlings on eBay and one of my buyers told me he is using a popcorn popper to roast them.
I just raced out to take this photo, it is pitch dark, don't know if I stood on any snakes or toads but these are the beans. They are ripening very slowly, I can pick just a few at the time. I dry them and peel the outer husks of while watching TV. I sell seedlings on eBay and one of my buyers told me he is using a popcorn popper to roast them.
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23rd May 2008 10:26pm
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Diny says...
Correy, I just watched your video, I process my beans a bit different, I eat the beans, mainly to keep my hands free while picking. That way they dry quicker and you only peel off the hard skin which you can do with your nails.The fine membrane rubs of easily and I winnow them like you do wheat. I throw them from one container in the other outside if there is a breeze.I don't have any fancy machine to make the coffee, just put some coffee in a pot, cover with boiling water and voila.
Correy, I just watched your video, I process my beans a bit different, I eat the beans, mainly to keep my hands free while picking. That way they dry quicker and you only peel off the hard skin which you can do with your nails.The fine membrane rubs of easily and I winnow them like you do wheat. I throw them from one container in the other outside if there is a breeze.I don't have any fancy machine to make the coffee, just put some coffee in a pot, cover with boiling water and voila.
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23rd May 2008 10:39pm
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Sandy says...
Oh my goodness, that video you made , Correy, of your coffee beans from go to whoa, was entertaining, as well as interesting and educational! I had a good laugh too. I hope my K1 coffee tree, gets lots of beans on it, it is protected from frost with a tall piece of brush t- tree behind it, and a foam esky on 1 side. it's the only 1 left, from ones bought from Daley's last year. So, hope it goes well over winter, here in melbourne's south east area. At least you looked like you had fun making the video, which wasn't too bad at all! keep it up, and good luck for next time.
Oh my goodness, that video you made , Correy, of your coffee beans from go to whoa, was entertaining, as well as interesting and educational! I had a good laugh too. I hope my K1 coffee tree, gets lots of beans on it, it is protected from frost with a tall piece of brush t- tree behind it, and a foam esky on 1 side. it's the only 1 left, from ones bought from Daley's last year. So, hope it goes well over winter, here in melbourne's south east area. At least you looked like you had fun making the video, which wasn't too bad at all! keep it up, and good luck for next time.
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1st June 2008 2:27pm
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Matt says...
Great info everyone. You've answered my questions regarding yellowing trees. I have 13 in two hedge rows and 7 are 18months old and approx 1m. One has beans and another has had several flowers. The plants are healthy but i am impatient for the beans and flowers to develop. From you chat above it looks like i need to be more patient but hopefully within a year it'll be coming up Milhouse in the coffee stakes. Thanks.
Great info everyone. You've answered my questions regarding yellowing trees. I have 13 in two hedge rows and 7 are 18months old and approx 1m. One has beans and another has had several flowers. The plants are healthy but i am impatient for the beans and flowers to develop. From you chat above it looks like i need to be more patient but hopefully within a year it'll be coming up Milhouse in the coffee stakes. Thanks.
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27th June 2008 9:01pm
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Kate says...
Anyone have any idea what variety of coffee tree this would be or do they all look very similar? They were a present and I just put them in bigger pots. Also - Corey, compared to your trees, mine have a lot of leaves developing all the way up the stems. Should I be removing them or letting them bush out like they are?
Anyone have any idea what variety of coffee tree this would be or do they all look very similar? They were a present and I just put them in bigger pots. Also - Corey, compared to your trees, mine have a lot of leaves developing all the way up the stems. Should I be removing them or letting them bush out like they are?
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Hamish says...
Hi all - just wondering how much coffee I can expect to get off a healthy plant. I generally have a couple of cups a day using my machine that grinds the beans itself. As I am aiming for self sufficiency I am trying to plan to have enough for myself and a bit to trade with. I am thinking 2 or 3 trees?
Hi all - just wondering how much coffee I can expect to get off a healthy plant. I generally have a couple of cups a day using my machine that grinds the beans itself. As I am aiming for self sufficiency I am trying to plan to have enough for myself and a bit to trade with. I am thinking 2 or 3 trees?
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Correy says...
I think they fruit on whatever wood is available? I couldn't tell much difference between this year and the previous in where the beans formed. Every inch of the tree produces fruit except the trunk which is good because you need a lot of beans for a double shot :)
They like sun but definitely not wind. If you can give them a wind break they will reward you for it.
Not sure about espaillier, you will have to try and then tell us how you go.
I think they fruit on whatever wood is available? I couldn't tell much difference between this year and the previous in where the beans formed. Every inch of the tree produces fruit except the trunk which is good because you need a lot of beans for a double shot :)
They like sun but definitely not wind. If you can give them a wind break they will reward you for it.
Not sure about espaillier, you will have to try and then tell us how you go.
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21st October 2008 9:03pm
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Matt says...
Greetings All,
For those in Brisbane i was able to find coffee trees being sold at the Ferny Grove Flea Market on Sundays. Currently our trees are going gangbusters. We've just had a major flowering and now we're waiting for the beans to form. I have no idea what type of trees we have but i can't wait for the first real crop to come along. I'll try and log some pics in the next week or so.
Cheers
Matt
Greetings All,
For those in Brisbane i was able to find coffee trees being sold at the Ferny Grove Flea Market on Sundays. Currently our trees are going gangbusters. We've just had a major flowering and now we're waiting for the beans to form. I have no idea what type of trees we have but i can't wait for the first real crop to come along. I'll try and log some pics in the next week or so.
Cheers
Matt
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14th November 2008 9:28pm
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Steven says...
Hi
I have 4 coffea Arabica trees at home and they all are growing well. They suffered a bit of damager from lack of water while i was away for a couple of months but they seem to grow fine here. They like lots of water (simulating a dry season will help them fruit), fertile soil and naturally grow under the canopy of the african forest. so they prefer filtered light, especially when they are young.
Mine were all outside during the winter, in the shade up against the house and slightly shaded from wind. But i dont think they are as sensitive to the cold as you would think.As long as they are healthy
Steven
Hi
I have 4 coffea Arabica trees at home and they all are growing well. They suffered a bit of damager from lack of water while i was away for a couple of months but they seem to grow fine here. They like lots of water (simulating a dry season will help them fruit), fertile soil and naturally grow under the canopy of the african forest. so they prefer filtered light, especially when they are young.
Mine were all outside during the winter, in the shade up against the house and slightly shaded from wind. But i dont think they are as sensitive to the cold as you would think.As long as they are healthy
Steven
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18th November 2008 11:44am
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Mario says...
Hi
My coffee plant seems to be growing well, I keep it out of the wind and keep it well watered and fertised.
However, I have noticed that any new leave shoots shrivel up.
Does any one know if this is due to the plant getting too cold or too hot ?
I have pictures attached, one showing a good green new shoot and the others shriveled one
Mario
Hi
My coffee plant seems to be growing well, I keep it out of the wind and keep it well watered and fertised.
However, I have noticed that any new leave shoots shrivel up.
Does any one know if this is due to the plant getting too cold or too hot ?
I have pictures attached, one showing a good green new shoot and the others shriveled one
Mario
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Adelaide
22nd November 2008 9:04am
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22nd November 2008 3:57pm
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Mario says...
Hi Steve,
It used to be in a greenhouse during winter, to keep it warm, then I noticed about 1 mth ago that the new leaves had shriveled up. So I moved it under a shade house. It is still happening. In Adelaide it is dry and can get be very hot -although I thought that coffee trees like sun ?, not as much as I thought. I suspect that shade cloth is still not enough to protect it. So I have moved it under a tree and see how it goes.
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I have my coffee tree in a pot. In Adelaide where I am, the days are warm but it can get as low as 12 degrees, but no frost. Should I bring the pot in doors if the night time temperature is expected to be that low, or keep it outside. So far it has been tolerating the cold temperature ok, no signs of cold damage, however, will this affect its ability to grow and eventually fruit ?
Thanks
Mario
Hi Steve,
It used to be in a greenhouse during winter, to keep it warm, then I noticed about 1 mth ago that the new leaves had shriveled up. So I moved it under a shade house. It is still happening. In Adelaide it is dry and can get be very hot -although I thought that coffee trees like sun ?, not as much as I thought. I suspect that shade cloth is still not enough to protect it. So I have moved it under a tree and see how it goes.
Question
I have my coffee tree in a pot. In Adelaide where I am, the days are warm but it can get as low as 12 degrees, but no frost. Should I bring the pot in doors if the night time temperature is expected to be that low, or keep it outside. So far it has been tolerating the cold temperature ok, no signs of cold damage, however, will this affect its ability to grow and eventually fruit ?
Thanks
Mario
Mario
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22nd November 2008 4:59pm
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Steven says...
Hi Mario
It could be a pest..but i think its probably just too much sun and lack of water it happened to many or my plants if they dont get enough water. especially if they are young and you get a hot day.
Coffee trees naturally grow in the undergrowth of forests in ethiopa and around that area. so they prefer filtered light
Put lots of mulch around the base of the tree (i use stones about the size of peas) give it a good dose of natural fertilizer and water it lots make sure the soil is always moist (i water my coffee trees every day during summer but its probably not necessary).
I left my trees outside all through winter and they were fine. I think they are much hardier than people think so i wouldnt worry too much about it.
Steven
Hi Mario
It could be a pest..but i think its probably just too much sun and lack of water it happened to many or my plants if they dont get enough water. especially if they are young and you get a hot day.
Coffee trees naturally grow in the undergrowth of forests in ethiopa and around that area. so they prefer filtered light
Put lots of mulch around the base of the tree (i use stones about the size of peas) give it a good dose of natural fertilizer and water it lots make sure the soil is always moist (i water my coffee trees every day during summer but its probably not necessary).
I left my trees outside all through winter and they were fine. I think they are much hardier than people think so i wouldnt worry too much about it.
Steven
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Mario says...
Thanks for the advice Steven and Pauline,
I have moved my plant under shade and treated it with Pyrethum based insect spray, and kepted it well watered, it has been happy so far. The real test is when we have one of those hot Adelaide in the 30's days.
I fertilized with cow mature in the potting mix when I first potted the plant with slow release pellets on the surface. The pellets suppose to last 6mths.
However, looking at the web, I have been advised that coffee trees need to be well fertilized with a good liquid fertilizer once a month.
I am interested in what people are fertilizing with and how often?
Mario
Thanks for the advice Steven and Pauline,
I have moved my plant under shade and treated it with Pyrethum based insect spray, and kepted it well watered, it has been happy so far. The real test is when we have one of those hot Adelaide in the 30's days.
I fertilized with cow mature in the potting mix when I first potted the plant with slow release pellets on the surface. The pellets suppose to last 6mths.
However, looking at the web, I have been advised that coffee trees need to be well fertilized with a good liquid fertilizer once a month.
I am interested in what people are fertilizing with and how often?
Mario
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23rd November 2008 10:36pm
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James says...
Use a soluable 10-10-10 fertilizer for Arabica Coffee.. I have been growing mine for 7years, they dont like the winter & leaves can drop & new shoots shrivel, they dont like the extreme sun either.. they enjoy climates between 10 - 30 celcius. (Indoors is PERFECT in Adelaide!!!)
I have Arabica & Amarelo (Burbon Coffee - Yellow beans)
Where in Adelaide are you Mario? i am in the Far Northern Suburbs areas, close to Virginia.
Did you purchase your Coffee plant from Daleys?
Use a soluable 10-10-10 fertilizer for Arabica Coffee.. I have been growing mine for 7years, they dont like the winter & leaves can drop & new shoots shrivel, they dont like the extreme sun either.. they enjoy climates between 10 - 30 celcius. (Indoors is PERFECT in Adelaide!!!)
I have Arabica & Amarelo (Burbon Coffee - Yellow beans)
Where in Adelaide are you Mario? i am in the Far Northern Suburbs areas, close to Virginia.
Did you purchase your Coffee plant from Daleys?
James
Adelaide
25th November 2008 8:23am
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Anonymous says...
Hi James,
Nice to know someone in Adelaide has been successfully grown coffee-particularly where it can get frosty
I am at Largs North, 100 metres from the beach. So all I have to worry about is wind, cold and salt.
My plant has survived the warm temperature yesterday, and the new shoot is getting larger, so it probably was the heat that was shrivelling the shoot.
I got my plant frm Daleys
Thanks for your advice
Mario
Hi James,
Nice to know someone in Adelaide has been successfully grown coffee-particularly where it can get frosty
I am at Largs North, 100 metres from the beach. So all I have to worry about is wind, cold and salt.
My plant has survived the warm temperature yesterday, and the new shoot is getting larger, so it probably was the heat that was shrivelling the shoot.
I got my plant frm Daleys
Thanks for your advice
Mario
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25th November 2008 9:08am
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Steven says...
Hi Mario
Dont worry too much about the climate, melbourne is colder than winter and mine are fine. They have suffered a bit of damage as i was in Europe for 2 and a half months and got back at the start of this month but that was because of not enough water. Coffee trees seem to be much hardier than most people think.
I fertilize my trees with seasol and their brand of liquid fertilizer once a week (once every 2 weeks is probably enough but they respond well to it) and that works very well, my coffee trees were growing really well last year without much problems really. they were fine during the really hot days too, i just made sure to water them in the late afternoon.
As long as you keep them well watered, fertilized and keep them under filtered light im sure they will be fine. (once they get bigger they can be in full sun but they still prefer filtered).
Regards
Steven
Hi Mario
Dont worry too much about the climate, melbourne is colder than winter and mine are fine. They have suffered a bit of damage as i was in Europe for 2 and a half months and got back at the start of this month but that was because of not enough water. Coffee trees seem to be much hardier than most people think.
I fertilize my trees with seasol and their brand of liquid fertilizer once a week (once every 2 weeks is probably enough but they respond well to it) and that works very well, my coffee trees were growing really well last year without much problems really. they were fine during the really hot days too, i just made sure to water them in the late afternoon.
As long as you keep them well watered, fertilized and keep them under filtered light im sure they will be fine. (once they get bigger they can be in full sun but they still prefer filtered).
Regards
Steven
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Steven says...
Hi Mario
Haha i cant wait for my first homemade coffee either. But i think it will still be a couple of years for me.
Thanks, the tree did look really good last year. this year i looks a little sick as i was in Italy september and october but its picking up now.
Let me know how you coffea turns out
Regards
Steven
Hi Mario
Haha i cant wait for my first homemade coffee either. But i think it will still be a couple of years for me.
Thanks, the tree did look really good last year. this year i looks a little sick as i was in Italy september and october but its picking up now.
Let me know how you coffea turns out
Regards
Steven
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jack says...
read online (nestle) that a average coffee tree will only produce 500gm a year of coffee, ie 500gm after you roast and grind it. am thinking of growing a couple trees, but that is a very low return for the effort and years you put into it, but also am sceptical as nestle makes nescafe and maybe trying to deter people growing their own. does anyone have a idea of how much ready to use coffee one gets per tree per year?
read online (nestle) that a average coffee tree will only produce 500gm a year of coffee, ie 500gm after you roast and grind it. am thinking of growing a couple trees, but that is a very low return for the effort and years you put into it, but also am sceptical as nestle makes nescafe and maybe trying to deter people growing their own. does anyone have a idea of how much ready to use coffee one gets per tree per year?
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26th November 2008 10:10am
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Mario says...
Hi Jack,
I have no doubt that growing your own coffee is probably not cost effective. However, I doing it for the pleasure of it.
I love making curries, so I decided to grow my own Curry tree. Three years later, it is 2 metres high, healthy, and I succesfully progated the seeds into new plants. The challenge of growing the tree, producing new plants with little or no advice, through trial and error has made it worth while. Not only that, it is a good looking tree and gives me fresh leaves for curries !
I will keep this forum informed on how my coffee turns out.
Mario
P.S. Apart from Abrica, K7 and Catui
does anyone know what else is available, (James mentioned Amarelo) how do they differ and where to get them ???
Hi Jack,
I have no doubt that growing your own coffee is probably not cost effective. However, I doing it for the pleasure of it.
I love making curries, so I decided to grow my own Curry tree. Three years later, it is 2 metres high, healthy, and I succesfully progated the seeds into new plants. The challenge of growing the tree, producing new plants with little or no advice, through trial and error has made it worth while. Not only that, it is a good looking tree and gives me fresh leaves for curries !
I will keep this forum informed on how my coffee turns out.
Mario
P.S. Apart from Abrica, K7 and Catui
does anyone know what else is available, (James mentioned Amarelo) how do they differ and where to get them ???
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Adelaide S.A
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Steven says...
Hi Jack
i would be very skeptical about what nestle says about coffee production. Ive read many times from coffee producers that coffee trees are very hard to grow and need just the perfect conditions to grow or they will die/wont fruit etc. They also all say its very difficult to process your own raw coffee.
My coffee trees are growing quite well and dont seem hard to grow. and many people have had great success with them producing fruit. I think they are just trying to deter people.
Regards
Steven
Hi Jack
i would be very skeptical about what nestle says about coffee production. Ive read many times from coffee producers that coffee trees are very hard to grow and need just the perfect conditions to grow or they will die/wont fruit etc. They also all say its very difficult to process your own raw coffee.
My coffee trees are growing quite well and dont seem hard to grow. and many people have had great success with them producing fruit. I think they are just trying to deter people.
Regards
Steven
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Correy says...
Thanks Sandy, I tried it again but this time I burnt them. I am having fun learning though.
Matt: You can expect the coffee trees to flower many times. Can you take some pics for us and put them on here.
Steve... Yes growing them is prety easy it is roasting them that is hard. The fruit starts about 2 years after planting but it isn't until about 5 years that you get your big crops.
However if you have a coffee a day you do really need 5-15 coffee trees in the ground to give you a year round supply. You can store the beans dehusked and green and then just roast them as you need them.
Thanks Sandy, I tried it again but this time I burnt them. I am having fun learning though.
Matt: You can expect the coffee trees to flower many times. Can you take some pics for us and put them on here.
Steve... Yes growing them is prety easy it is roasting them that is hard. The fruit starts about 2 years after planting but it isn't until about 5 years that you get your big crops.
However if you have a coffee a day you do really need 5-15 coffee trees in the ground to give you a year round supply. You can store the beans dehusked and green and then just roast them as you need them.
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11th December 2008 9:14am
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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
The pictures i've promised are now hopefully attached. Some of our main lower branches are beginning to shoot new limbs which i don't believe i should allow due to the weight done the track. If you can let me know on this one as i'm unsure i'd be appreciative. Happy coffee growing.
Matt
Hi Everyone,
The pictures i've promised are now hopefully attached. Some of our main lower branches are beginning to shoot new limbs which i don't believe i should allow due to the weight done the track. If you can let me know on this one as i'm unsure i'd be appreciative. Happy coffee growing.
Matt
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Steven says...
Hi Everyone
Those pictures look good Matt and your plants look healthy. i hope one day mine will look like that. At the moment they are all quite small.
Hi Correy I have never produced coffee before but i have fermented, processed etc things plenty of times before so im hoping roasting them is just one of those things that takes a little care and effort. I don't think it would be too difficult once you've done it a couple of times. You can buy coffee roasting machines over the internet for a few hundred dollars (i think ive seen them on ebay) for home use. But they arent cheap and i dont know how well they work.
Regards
Steven.
Hi Everyone
Those pictures look good Matt and your plants look healthy. i hope one day mine will look like that. At the moment they are all quite small.
Hi Correy I have never produced coffee before but i have fermented, processed etc things plenty of times before so im hoping roasting them is just one of those things that takes a little care and effort. I don't think it would be too difficult once you've done it a couple of times. You can buy coffee roasting machines over the internet for a few hundred dollars (i think ive seen them on ebay) for home use. But they arent cheap and i dont know how well they work.
Regards
Steven.
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trikus says...
I am going to try mixing some of my green beans half'n'half with Harris Espresso and taste .. With all this hype about the benefits of green coffee.. will save roasting them .. Seems to be very hard to buy green beans away from the big smoke . Lucky it grows so well . I found a large 2m bush behind all the weeds on the other side of my back fence . All cleaned up , and fence pulled down , ready to harvest soon .
I am going to try mixing some of my green beans half'n'half with Harris Espresso and taste .. With all this hype about the benefits of green coffee.. will save roasting them .. Seems to be very hard to buy green beans away from the big smoke . Lucky it grows so well . I found a large 2m bush behind all the weeds on the other side of my back fence . All cleaned up , and fence pulled down , ready to harvest soon .
trikus
Tully
18th December 2008 1:56pm
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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
It took a few attempts to get the growing conditions just right. When planting i dug the holes larger and deeper than usual. I then added several heaped handfuls of river stones mixed with a good soil to help for future drainage. It also helps the root system establish as we have a heavy clay base. Around the trees i have red cyprus mulch (i think it's red cyprus) and they are in a sheltered position to protect from any wind. Now we water weekly and occasionally we add a liquid fertilizer. Over the weekend i'll load some pics of the beans as they are now as we are very excited with our first crop!!
Hi Everyone,
It took a few attempts to get the growing conditions just right. When planting i dug the holes larger and deeper than usual. I then added several heaped handfuls of river stones mixed with a good soil to help for future drainage. It also helps the root system establish as we have a heavy clay base. Around the trees i have red cyprus mulch (i think it's red cyprus) and they are in a sheltered position to protect from any wind. Now we water weekly and occasionally we add a liquid fertilizer. Over the weekend i'll load some pics of the beans as they are now as we are very excited with our first crop!!
Matt
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Mario says...
I thought I would update on how my coffee plant is going since I last spoke about new shoots being shriveled up in my original post. Well sun damage was the cause of the problem.
Looking at the attached photo you can see how well it looks now particularly with regular fertilizing. Note, the two large leaves at the bottom of the photo (left one has a split) are the new shoots in the photo comparsion I did to the shrivelled one in the original post !, look at them now)
Regards
Mario
I thought I would update on how my coffee plant is going since I last spoke about new shoots being shriveled up in my original post. Well sun damage was the cause of the problem.
Looking at the attached photo you can see how well it looks now particularly with regular fertilizing. Note, the two large leaves at the bottom of the photo (left one has a split) are the new shoots in the photo comparsion I did to the shrivelled one in the original post !, look at them now)
Regards
Mario
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Matt says...
Hiya's,
Our coffee beans are just turning from a deep green to a lighter colour. It's vey exciting! The question i have is. The leaves on the branches of the trees are also turning yellow. Any ideas??? In SE Qld we've had decent rain lately and the trees are well mulched so any assistance you have is grealy appreciated.
Matt
Hiya's,
Our coffee beans are just turning from a deep green to a lighter colour. It's vey exciting! The question i have is. The leaves on the branches of the trees are also turning yellow. Any ideas??? In SE Qld we've had decent rain lately and the trees are well mulched so any assistance you have is grealy appreciated.
Matt
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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you.
You'll probably find that as long as the trees are under filtered light then the problem will most likely be that they need a little fertilizer. put a couple of handfuls of dynamic lifter or something of the sort around the base of each tree and the problem will most likely go away. a little seasol every couple of weeks helps them alot too.
Regards
Steven
Hi Matt how are you.
You'll probably find that as long as the trees are under filtered light then the problem will most likely be that they need a little fertilizer. put a couple of handfuls of dynamic lifter or something of the sort around the base of each tree and the problem will most likely go away. a little seasol every couple of weeks helps them alot too.
Regards
Steven
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Zach says...
Hello all, I recently purchased a coffee plant that is about a foot tall. I kept it inside for some time but recently moved it outside into a bigger pot. The plant was pretty healthy with only some leave tips browning. However a couple of days after I moved it outside I noticed that a lot of the leaves turned this orange brown color on top, but are still green underneath. Does anyone know what causes this?
Hello all, I recently purchased a coffee plant that is about a foot tall. I kept it inside for some time but recently moved it outside into a bigger pot. The plant was pretty healthy with only some leave tips browning. However a couple of days after I moved it outside I noticed that a lot of the leaves turned this orange brown color on top, but are still green underneath. Does anyone know what causes this?
Zach
Houston
17th April 2009 9:28am
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Steven says...
Hi Zach
Can you post a picture of your tree, that way it would be easier to see what the problem is.
its most likely that youve put the tree in full sun. Coffee trees naturally grow under the forest canopy of the African jungle so they are used to semi to full shade. Semi shade (such as the shade you get from under a tree) is best. Once the tree is bigger and more mature you can put it in full sun which apparently make it more productive, but it degrades the health of the tree.
Coffee trees like low light, lost of water and lots of natural fertilizer.
Regards
Steven
Hi Zach
Can you post a picture of your tree, that way it would be easier to see what the problem is.
its most likely that youve put the tree in full sun. Coffee trees naturally grow under the forest canopy of the African jungle so they are used to semi to full shade. Semi shade (such as the shade you get from under a tree) is best. Once the tree is bigger and more mature you can put it in full sun which apparently make it more productive, but it degrades the health of the tree.
Coffee trees like low light, lost of water and lots of natural fertilizer.
Regards
Steven
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trikus says...
Roasted coffee beans vary in price from $20 to nearly $100 per kg depending on origin and quality . Jamaican Blue Mountain or a good Columbian can cost much more . But the stuf you grow at home can save you a fortune . Here a dwarf bush loaded with beans growing in full sun next to a turmeric clump getting ready to go dormant .
Roasted coffee beans vary in price from $20 to nearly $100 per kg depending on origin and quality . Jamaican Blue Mountain or a good Columbian can cost much more . But the stuf you grow at home can save you a fortune . Here a dwarf bush loaded with beans growing in full sun next to a turmeric clump getting ready to go dormant .
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Bernie says...
I have 3 K7 plants that are about 3 years old. I am in the middle of my first harvest and was wondering if there is an easy way to de-husk the beans. I fermented the beans in water and dried them but the most time consuming part is the husking. Does anyone have any suggestions or hints to make the de-husking easier?
I have 3 K7 plants that are about 3 years old. I am in the middle of my first harvest and was wondering if there is an easy way to de-husk the beans. I fermented the beans in water and dried them but the most time consuming part is the husking. Does anyone have any suggestions or hints to make the de-husking easier?
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amanda says...
Has anyone tried Stress-guard for wind-burn? I have never used it myself and don't know what it's made of...but i was wondering if there may be some use in it/something similar, for the bad winds and sensitive plants?
Matt - what's your August wind? (ie: hot/cold, north/south/east/west?)
Has anyone tried Stress-guard for wind-burn? I have never used it myself and don't know what it's made of...but i was wondering if there may be some use in it/something similar, for the bad winds and sensitive plants?
Matt - what's your August wind? (ie: hot/cold, north/south/east/west?)
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amanda says...
Hi Matt n all.. sorry - it's called DroughtShield - also claims to help protect against light frosts.
I looked up the safety data sheet and it checks out fine so I got some to try. I am going to use it on my more sensitive plants when the Beasterly (hot, hot wind) arrives - it claims to last up to 90 days...
I am going to try a home-made one using aloe vera juice - who knows - it may just work!? :)
Hi Matt n all.. sorry - it's called DroughtShield - also claims to help protect against light frosts.
I looked up the safety data sheet and it checks out fine so I got some to try. I am going to use it on my more sensitive plants when the Beasterly (hot, hot wind) arrives - it claims to last up to 90 days...
I am going to try a home-made one using aloe vera juice - who knows - it may just work!? :)
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Sandy says...
Hi everyone,
I have been ill last 2 weeks with the flue! A lot down this way. I have no fruit on my trees , at all, my Lime tree, which is a Tahitian Lime, planted in my front garden, in lawn, gets small limes, then they seem to drop off.
I have given it citrus food, at the right time, pruned off dead branches etc, but no fruit.
it had about 4 the first time, after 2 years, then nothing! It faces the east, gets full sun.
Any one got any suggestions?
Hi everyone,
I have been ill last 2 weeks with the flue! A lot down this way. I have no fruit on my trees , at all, my Lime tree, which is a Tahitian Lime, planted in my front garden, in lawn, gets small limes, then they seem to drop off.
I have given it citrus food, at the right time, pruned off dead branches etc, but no fruit.
it had about 4 the first time, after 2 years, then nothing! It faces the east, gets full sun.
Any one got any suggestions?
Sandy
Melbourne, Victoria
8th August 2009 5:39pm
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culebra says...
Hi Sandy,
My Tahitian lime also failed to thrive here. It is coming back Ok now after some TLC.
have heard that Tahitian lime are more suited to warmer climates so that could be one factor. my friend grows Tahitian & kaffir limes very well in ground in melb of which i am jealous. he has found the perfect location, a warmer microclimate-- in front of a brick wall facing north and shielded from the wind.
I would have to agree with JUJUBE.. try to keep the water up to it in the upcoming warmer months (start now). i notice you mention that it is located in a lawn, i'd say you should clear any grass and weeds from the vicinity of the trunk to distance of at least 1m, preferably more. feed it and prune off any gall from the branches if any present, just saying i have found this particular one to be very suceptible to this pest. also check for scale and other pests.
good luck and get well soon.
Hi Sandy,
My Tahitian lime also failed to thrive here. It is coming back Ok now after some TLC.
have heard that Tahitian lime are more suited to warmer climates so that could be one factor. my friend grows Tahitian & kaffir limes very well in ground in melb of which i am jealous. he has found the perfect location, a warmer microclimate-- in front of a brick wall facing north and shielded from the wind.
I would have to agree with JUJUBE.. try to keep the water up to it in the upcoming warmer months (start now). i notice you mention that it is located in a lawn, i'd say you should clear any grass and weeds from the vicinity of the trunk to distance of at least 1m, preferably more. feed it and prune off any gall from the branches if any present, just saying i have found this particular one to be very suceptible to this pest. also check for scale and other pests.
good luck and get well soon.
culebra
Melbourne
8th August 2009 9:10pm
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rus
Perth NOR
10th August 2009 3:16pm
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culebra says...
I had never even thought of growing Coffee in Melbourne.
Sounds like an interesting endeavour. I'll partake if i find a tree for sale. i believe i recall seeing a few plants in gardenworld but that was a fair while ago. anyone know any local sources?
Steven i am very impressed by your coffee plants. They are soo incredibly vibrant green. TFS
I had never even thought of growing Coffee in Melbourne.
Sounds like an interesting endeavour. I'll partake if i find a tree for sale. i believe i recall seeing a few plants in gardenworld but that was a fair while ago. anyone know any local sources?
Steven i am very impressed by your coffee plants. They are soo incredibly vibrant green. TFS
culebra
Melbourne
11th August 2009 6:51pm
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Steven says...
Hi Culebra how are you
Thanks. they are a lovely tree, i water mine frequently during the summer and fertilize often and they grow very well.
I bought one from Beasley's Nursery on old warrandyte road a couple of years ago and the rest on daleys. I found daleys was cheaper.
Hopefully mine flower soon
Regards
Steven
Hi Culebra how are you
Thanks. they are a lovely tree, i water mine frequently during the summer and fertilize often and they grow very well.
I bought one from Beasley's Nursery on old warrandyte road a couple of years ago and the rest on daleys. I found daleys was cheaper.
Hopefully mine flower soon
Regards
Steven
Steven
Eastern Melbourne
14th August 2009 6:24pm
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Sandy says...
Hi calebra and jujube,
I'll try weeding , and fertilising, as well as watering, using rain water or grey.
like to grow a bit more citrus, but not sure where to plant, as space is limited. I have a brick wall in backyard, facing south, but gets a LOT of summer heat!
Might try dwarf citrus maybe?
Hi calebra and jujube,
I'll try weeding , and fertilising, as well as watering, using rain water or grey.
like to grow a bit more citrus, but not sure where to plant, as space is limited. I have a brick wall in backyard, facing south, but gets a LOT of summer heat!
Might try dwarf citrus maybe?
Sandy
Melbourne, Victoria
15th August 2009 8:28pm
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Steven says...
Hi Sandy, Citrus trees are very easy to grow and you can grow then quite easily from a cutting, they do like a bit of fertilizer every now and then and arent too bad with water, but do like some during the hot weather. Plant whatever variety and type you would prefer. They are prone to gall wasp which causes swelling of the branches, which is good to remove and throw away but i dont think is too destructive on a well established tree.
Citrus trees will grow easily in melbournes conditions as long as they get a few hours of sun a day at least.
The spot your talking about which gets alot of summer heat would be great for a blood orange as they like hot dry summers to develop their beautiful, flavour and red colour.
Regards
Steven
Hi Sandy, Citrus trees are very easy to grow and you can grow then quite easily from a cutting, they do like a bit of fertilizer every now and then and arent too bad with water, but do like some during the hot weather. Plant whatever variety and type you would prefer. They are prone to gall wasp which causes swelling of the branches, which is good to remove and throw away but i dont think is too destructive on a well established tree.
Citrus trees will grow easily in melbournes conditions as long as they get a few hours of sun a day at least.
The spot your talking about which gets alot of summer heat would be great for a blood orange as they like hot dry summers to develop their beautiful, flavour and red colour.
Regards
Steven
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20th August 2009 6:28pm
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amanda says...
Here is a good link for u Sandy..
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/citrus/management/nutrition/nutrition
Here is a good link for u Sandy..
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/citrus/management/nutrition/nutrition
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Geraldton. WA
20th August 2009 9:26pm
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Steven says...
Hi everyone
Does anyone know what would cause a seemingly healthy looking coffee tree to suddenly droop all its leaves and start dying.
I have 4 coffee trees which up until about a month ago all looked quite healthy and are coping very well during winter suddenly one has started to droop its leaves and begin to turn brown for no apparent reason, the new growth at the tips of the branches has also started to die back. All the other coffee trees look quite healthy and nothing i do seems to help pick the sick one up.
Thanks
Steven
Hi everyone
Does anyone know what would cause a seemingly healthy looking coffee tree to suddenly droop all its leaves and start dying.
I have 4 coffee trees which up until about a month ago all looked quite healthy and are coping very well during winter suddenly one has started to droop its leaves and begin to turn brown for no apparent reason, the new growth at the tips of the branches has also started to die back. All the other coffee trees look quite healthy and nothing i do seems to help pick the sick one up.
Thanks
Steven
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24th August 2009 5:09pm
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trikus says...
Steven , your coffee might have got a bit of cold burn , was it more exposed than others ? One easy way to dehusk , is after beans have dried well , just run them through a blender , they beans are so hard the husks are cut of easily . Just winnow outside on a windy day , or put a pedestal fan in place to blow husks away .
Steven , your coffee might have got a bit of cold burn , was it more exposed than others ? One easy way to dehusk , is after beans have dried well , just run them through a blender , they beans are so hard the husks are cut of easily . Just winnow outside on a windy day , or put a pedestal fan in place to blow husks away .
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24th August 2009 6:40pm
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amanda says...
Hi Steven...I'd be tempted to gently dig down to the roots of that tree and make sure they are white n healthy (not brown n dead looking), that it's not waterlogged, collar rot, bugs, fungi etc. It may be worth treating for a root rot anyway - nothing to loose except the tree if u don't?
I have 20 groundcover plants called Grevillia criminthifolia..all treated the same and awhile ago 2 died for no reason that I can fathom...sometimes gardening is like that!??
It might help to post a photo of the sick one (and one of the healthy ones) if u can..
Hi Steven...I'd be tempted to gently dig down to the roots of that tree and make sure they are white n healthy (not brown n dead looking), that it's not waterlogged, collar rot, bugs, fungi etc. It may be worth treating for a root rot anyway - nothing to loose except the tree if u don't?
I have 20 groundcover plants called Grevillia criminthifolia..all treated the same and awhile ago 2 died for no reason that I can fathom...sometimes gardening is like that!??
It might help to post a photo of the sick one (and one of the healthy ones) if u can..
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Geraldton. WA
24th August 2009 10:17pm
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Steven says...
Hi Amanda, sorry for the later reply, ive taken a few photo's of the coffee trees, there is one to the left behind one of the coffee trees which is a bit hard to see, but as you can see the rest are quite healthy and havent suffered at all (other than a few marks on the tips of their leaves) from winter but the sick one has lost all its leaves and i dont know why, im hoping it will grow back soon.
Thanks
Steven
Hi Amanda, sorry for the later reply, ive taken a few photo's of the coffee trees, there is one to the left behind one of the coffee trees which is a bit hard to see, but as you can see the rest are quite healthy and havent suffered at all (other than a few marks on the tips of their leaves) from winter but the sick one has lost all its leaves and i dont know why, im hoping it will grow back soon.
Thanks
Steven
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5th September 2009 6:02pm
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amanda says...
Hi Steven - yes it's a sick puppy allright :( all I can suggest is the stuff above - might be worth taking it out of the plastic bag and having a good look (the repot after) - you should be able to see the root system easily then. It can't be the cold as the others are fine. None of your mates might have taken a leak on it at your last wild party perhaps!??? :))))
Hi Steven - yes it's a sick puppy allright :( all I can suggest is the stuff above - might be worth taking it out of the plastic bag and having a good look (the repot after) - you should be able to see the root system easily then. It can't be the cold as the others are fine. None of your mates might have taken a leak on it at your last wild party perhaps!??? :))))
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5th September 2009 8:45pm
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Bernie says...
Steven,
I originally had 5 coffee trees and 2 died. I couldn't work out what had happened as three of the trees were perfectly healthy. I had a dig around the root system of the dead tree and there were about 50 'curl grubs' around the base so I attributed the death of the tree to them. I did a bit of research that suggested that the grubs will eat tree roots along with composting vegetable matter. I hope you work out a solution to your problem.
Good luck.
Bernie
Steven,
I originally had 5 coffee trees and 2 died. I couldn't work out what had happened as three of the trees were perfectly healthy. I had a dig around the root system of the dead tree and there were about 50 'curl grubs' around the base so I attributed the death of the tree to them. I did a bit of research that suggested that the grubs will eat tree roots along with composting vegetable matter. I hope you work out a solution to your problem.
Good luck.
Bernie
Bernie
Sunnybank, QLD
6th September 2009 10:06am
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Steven says...
Hi everyone.
Thanks for your help, i might treat it with a root rot/pesticide and hopefully it picks up, it hasnt gotten better or worse in the past couple of weeks so that is kind of a good sign, ill have a look around at the roots and hopefully ill find the problem.
Thanks for your help
Steven
Hi everyone.
Thanks for your help, i might treat it with a root rot/pesticide and hopefully it picks up, it hasnt gotten better or worse in the past couple of weeks so that is kind of a good sign, ill have a look around at the roots and hopefully ill find the problem.
Thanks for your help
Steven
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Birdy says...
Just bought four little arabica coffee trees and I'm trying to work out where to plant them. I could keep them in our sunroom/ greenhouse, or I'm contemplating planting them next to the house. We have a fabulous strip there which gets full sun, and a lot of reflected warmth from the house bricks during the winter. I was concerned about the arabica's root systems though. I've heard they can be quite large and I think I'll keep them in pots if they are going to cause a problem with the house. Does anyone have any suggestions / reccomendations?
Cheers,
Birdy.
Just bought four little arabica coffee trees and I'm trying to work out where to plant them. I could keep them in our sunroom/ greenhouse, or I'm contemplating planting them next to the house. We have a fabulous strip there which gets full sun, and a lot of reflected warmth from the house bricks during the winter. I was concerned about the arabica's root systems though. I've heard they can be quite large and I think I'll keep them in pots if they are going to cause a problem with the house. Does anyone have any suggestions / reccomendations?
Cheers,
Birdy.
Birdy
Blue Mountains
20th November 2009 7:18pm
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M Nash says...
I back onto rainforest where probably K7 but definatly arabica type plants grow in weed proportions.
They grow in understory to mid story (20 feet). Because they are shade grown, The caffeine content is sky high. So much so that I have to blend it down with various bought green beans just to get a coffee with a strong kick and not a coffee with a hart attack.
They grow like crazy in dappled light and rainforest type floor soil.
Hope that might help.
I back onto rainforest where probably K7 but definatly arabica type plants grow in weed proportions.
They grow in understory to mid story (20 feet). Because they are shade grown, The caffeine content is sky high. So much so that I have to blend it down with various bought green beans just to get a coffee with a strong kick and not a coffee with a hart attack.
They grow like crazy in dappled light and rainforest type floor soil.
Hope that might help.
M Nash
Terranora
21st November 2009 2:06am
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Birdy says...
Hi Nash,
Thanks for your response! Still a bit confused, mainly because of the conflicting recommendations for planting coffee (sun vs shade etc). We have 3 acres of mostly bush land but I was concerned about trying them closer to the bush because of the possibility of them "going feral" so to speak in the adjacent national park- your experience seems to suggest this is likely :)
I've always wanted to try growing my own coffee trees so I hope I can figure it out.
Hi Nash,
Thanks for your response! Still a bit confused, mainly because of the conflicting recommendations for planting coffee (sun vs shade etc). We have 3 acres of mostly bush land but I was concerned about trying them closer to the bush because of the possibility of them "going feral" so to speak in the adjacent national park- your experience seems to suggest this is likely :)
I've always wanted to try growing my own coffee trees so I hope I can figure it out.
Birdy
Blue Mountains
21st November 2009 11:01am
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Correy says...
Birdy, a semi-shaded position would be fine but the most important thing is protection from the wind and also if you get frost that would be hard one them.
I am not sure but I doubt that coffee would be a weed in the blue mountains but up where nash is from in terranora where the conditions are more perfect they can be a problem.
Also Nash is right the ones I roasted that I grew was the strongest cup I have had. All famous coffees mix beans rather then just using the one bean from the one tree as each bean has a strength and weakness. It is the blend that makes it great.
Birdy, a semi-shaded position would be fine but the most important thing is protection from the wind and also if you get frost that would be hard one them.
I am not sure but I doubt that coffee would be a weed in the blue mountains but up where nash is from in terranora where the conditions are more perfect they can be a problem.
Also Nash is right the ones I roasted that I grew was the strongest cup I have had. All famous coffees mix beans rather then just using the one bean from the one tree as each bean has a strength and weakness. It is the blend that makes it great.
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Woolloongabba, QLD
21st November 2009 11:41am
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Steven says...
Hi Birdy
I agree with everyone else too, coffee originate in ethiotpia and the surrounding areas in the mountains where they grow under the canopy which is why filtered light is good for them. If you plant them in full full you will quickly notice that the leaves will start to burn. I have my coffee trees under and old swing with some shade cloth over it and even still they get some afternoon sun and the leaves on the west side of the plants are a bit burnt so im going to move them to their old positions soon.
The reason why you have been told to put them in full sun is probably because many coffee farms grow their trees in full sun....once they grow big enough they can be grown in full sun but it puts the trees under stress and initially increases their yield span but reduced their life span. Most farms these days care more about quantity rather than quality which is sad.
Coffee trees are tropical trees so there would not be a problem with them becoming weeds in your area. In fact you should give them some sort of protection during winter, especially when they are small.
regards
Steven
Hi Birdy
I agree with everyone else too, coffee originate in ethiotpia and the surrounding areas in the mountains where they grow under the canopy which is why filtered light is good for them. If you plant them in full full you will quickly notice that the leaves will start to burn. I have my coffee trees under and old swing with some shade cloth over it and even still they get some afternoon sun and the leaves on the west side of the plants are a bit burnt so im going to move them to their old positions soon.
The reason why you have been told to put them in full sun is probably because many coffee farms grow their trees in full sun....once they grow big enough they can be grown in full sun but it puts the trees under stress and initially increases their yield span but reduced their life span. Most farms these days care more about quantity rather than quality which is sad.
Coffee trees are tropical trees so there would not be a problem with them becoming weeds in your area. In fact you should give them some sort of protection during winter, especially when they are small.
regards
Steven
Steven
Eastern Melbourne
24th November 2009 6:48pm
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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
Haven't been in here for awhile but currently our trees don't look to good. They are yellowing quite extensively. They've just finished a bumper crop and have flowered so i suspect that has taken a bit out of the trees. I am probably wrong though! I water them quite a bit as Brisbane at the moment is very hot and they are mulched very well. I have also just recently given them a dose of complete fertilizer to try and give them a kick start. They are in full sun and are bordering 2m but in general they do well where they are. Any suggestions for our yellowing issues?? I'll try to add pics over the weekend.
Matt
Hi Everyone,
Haven't been in here for awhile but currently our trees don't look to good. They are yellowing quite extensively. They've just finished a bumper crop and have flowered so i suspect that has taken a bit out of the trees. I am probably wrong though! I water them quite a bit as Brisbane at the moment is very hot and they are mulched very well. I have also just recently given them a dose of complete fertilizer to try and give them a kick start. They are in full sun and are bordering 2m but in general they do well where they are. Any suggestions for our yellowing issues?? I'll try to add pics over the weekend.
Matt
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Keperra
11th December 2009 10:03pm
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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you.
If the leaves a yellowing it can be an indication of an iron or magnesium deficiency, epsom salts will help with the Mg problem and im sure you can buy iron ore from nurseries or hardware stores sell it to stain concrete, one brand is called oxide.
However the fact that it is in full sun might be the cause of the problem. You say its been very hot and sunny lately and the tree you believe may have been weakened from the crop its produced.
Coffee tree need to be grown under filtered light, they naturally grow under the canopy of the ethiopean jungle. If they are healthy and strong they can grow in full sun . but its not good for them. I would say thats the problem. Its been quite hot and sunny and the trees are stressed because of it. Give them shade and the should jump back up.
Regards
Steven
Hi Matt how are you.
If the leaves a yellowing it can be an indication of an iron or magnesium deficiency, epsom salts will help with the Mg problem and im sure you can buy iron ore from nurseries or hardware stores sell it to stain concrete, one brand is called oxide.
However the fact that it is in full sun might be the cause of the problem. You say its been very hot and sunny lately and the tree you believe may have been weakened from the crop its produced.
Coffee tree need to be grown under filtered light, they naturally grow under the canopy of the ethiopean jungle. If they are healthy and strong they can grow in full sun . but its not good for them. I would say thats the problem. Its been quite hot and sunny and the trees are stressed because of it. Give them shade and the should jump back up.
Regards
Steven
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12th December 2009 6:24pm
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Matt says...
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advice. I'll have a look for some epsom salts in the next few days and give them a hit. Unfortunately i can not offer the trees any shade as the position the stand is in is in full sun. That said the trees have been there since they were 20cm in height and this is the first time they have yellowed like this.
If anyone has any other ideas i'm open to further suggestions.
Cheers
Matt
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advice. I'll have a look for some epsom salts in the next few days and give them a hit. Unfortunately i can not offer the trees any shade as the position the stand is in is in full sun. That said the trees have been there since they were 20cm in height and this is the first time they have yellowed like this.
If anyone has any other ideas i'm open to further suggestions.
Cheers
Matt
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12th December 2009 10:29pm
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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you
Yeah try that and give them a good layer of mulch and compost or organic fertilizer and hopefully that will help.
Coffee trees can grow in full sun but it is not good for them and it will stress the trees, making them more prone to problems such as what your having now or anything really. i would recommend even planting some fast growing trees around them so that they will provide them with shade in the near future.
Regards
Steven
PS. i think my coffee trees are starting to flower :)
Hi Matt how are you
Yeah try that and give them a good layer of mulch and compost or organic fertilizer and hopefully that will help.
Coffee trees can grow in full sun but it is not good for them and it will stress the trees, making them more prone to problems such as what your having now or anything really. i would recommend even planting some fast growing trees around them so that they will provide them with shade in the near future.
Regards
Steven
PS. i think my coffee trees are starting to flower :)
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18th December 2009 7:20pm
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Steven says...
My coffee trees flowers have started to open!! the trees are full of flowers but only a few have opened at the moment. It may not have enough time to produce good fruit but still its a good sign. The mango trees flowers set and fruit started to develop but a few day ago it dropped them. But no big deal, even stone fruits do that when they are young. I was surprised it even flowered as its still a small and young tree, so the fact that it flowered is a good sign! Steven
My coffee trees flowers have started to open!! the trees are full of flowers but only a few have opened at the moment. It may not have enough time to produce good fruit but still its a good sign. The mango trees flowers set and fruit started to develop but a few day ago it dropped them. But no big deal, even stone fruits do that when they are young. I was surprised it even flowered as its still a small and young tree, so the fact that it flowered is a good sign! Steven
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Bojan says...
Hi,
i have some similar problems with my coffee tree.
described here: http://www.survivalistboards.com/showpost.php?p=1214197&postcount=19
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Bojan
Hi,
i have some similar problems with my coffee tree.
described here: http://www.survivalistboards.com/showpost.php?p=1214197&postcount=19
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Bojan
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19th January 2010 1:33am
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Steven says...
Hi Amanda, thanks alot. No i didnt end up figuring out what was wrong with that one, i was hoping it would pick up as the trunk was still green for a while but it died a few months ago....ohh well, i think something poisoned it because it happened so quickly. The others look good the flowers have fallen off now and small berries are just starting to develop, hopefully it goes into full bloom, but might not because its developing very slowly.
Bojan the problem with the coffee tree on that site seems to be to be either a magnesium or iron deficiency (the leaves are yellow but the veins are still green). Personally i would prefer fertilizing it with chicken pellets or something similar, synthetic fertilizers kill bacteria in the soil and can burn the trees roots and leaves. also water it every two weeks with seasol, that always helps to pick them up.
In terms of the deficiency, epsom salts (which is magnesium sulphate) can be found at any supermarket and is great for a magnesium deficiency, and iron you should be able to get iron oxide from a nursery, or even the local hardware store sells it as a product called oxide which is used to stain concrete red. either sprinkle a little over the soil or dissolve them in a bucket and water the plant with it (dont know what happens if you overdose the tree with it though so dont over do it). just a tablespoon or two of each in 5 liters of water should be enough, do it once a week and see how it goes
Regards
Steven
Hi Amanda, thanks alot. No i didnt end up figuring out what was wrong with that one, i was hoping it would pick up as the trunk was still green for a while but it died a few months ago....ohh well, i think something poisoned it because it happened so quickly. The others look good the flowers have fallen off now and small berries are just starting to develop, hopefully it goes into full bloom, but might not because its developing very slowly.
Bojan the problem with the coffee tree on that site seems to be to be either a magnesium or iron deficiency (the leaves are yellow but the veins are still green). Personally i would prefer fertilizing it with chicken pellets or something similar, synthetic fertilizers kill bacteria in the soil and can burn the trees roots and leaves. also water it every two weeks with seasol, that always helps to pick them up.
In terms of the deficiency, epsom salts (which is magnesium sulphate) can be found at any supermarket and is great for a magnesium deficiency, and iron you should be able to get iron oxide from a nursery, or even the local hardware store sells it as a product called oxide which is used to stain concrete red. either sprinkle a little over the soil or dissolve them in a bucket and water the plant with it (dont know what happens if you overdose the tree with it though so dont over do it). just a tablespoon or two of each in 5 liters of water should be enough, do it once a week and see how it goes
Regards
Steven
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19th January 2010 5:47pm
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