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mez says... On the weekend I think I bought a dekopon fruit in sydney (labelled as a kon). The most delicious citrus fruit I have ever had (the look of it was very interesting and put me off a bit). But will definately be buying more when I go back. Good luck sourcing a tree and growing fruit in australia, looks like the conditions to grow it are difficult but the payoff is fantastic. thank you very much pacific fruit ;) hope it will be a permanent addition to the fruit markets from now on when peoples awareness of it increases. | About the Author mez1 sydney 22nd August 2011 9:37am #UserID: 5702 Posts: 2 View All mez1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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mez says... Well that's what i'm unsure about... this 'kon' looks like the pictures of a dekopon but it's also advertised as being seedless. Which makes me wonder how did it come about in the first place? I bought this kon from norton street grocers. Perhaps it isn't even the same breed but everything described about it seems very similar. | About the Author mez1 sydney 24th August 2011 3:34pm #UserID: 5702 Posts: 2 View All mez1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Seedless mandarins varieties are common, most of the modern varieties of the last 20 years+/- are hybrids of two other older mandarin types. Many are only seedless when not grown near other Citrus that can pollinate .I cant think of any variety that looks like Decopon, with the large knob on top. | About the Author 24th August 2011 4:41pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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mirandagirly says... Over the last fews days I have purchased this fruit from a fruit shop in North Sydney (Greenwood Plaza) and another in Ashfield Mall. I haven't yet found a single seed. The first time I saw this fruit was last year in another fruit shop in Chatswood Chase but I don't know if they have them again this year. Jakfruit etiquette ... there is a photo of them on Wikipedia if you want to have a look. | About the Author mirandagirly 2nd September 2011 12:51pm #UserID: 5763 Posts: 1 View All mirandagirly's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Yes thanks mg,I knew that Dekopon was in Japan, just wanted to make sure that what steve was buying as Sumo was it for sure. Seems like it is avail here. The only thing that it might look a bit like is a big minneola tangelo on a good day. So how did you rate it for taste? | About the Author 2nd September 2011 2:02pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Sumo brand, grown in NSW Riverina, available at Woolworths in Victoria for around $4.00 per kg. Haven't found any seeds in my fruit so far! Found some seeds for sale on Ebay (search for Dekopon) from Singapore. Not sure if they would be allowed through Australian Customs though! Reading a forum in the US, it seems that under licence agreements, growers are not allowed to on-sell root stock. | About the Author Michael26 Melbourne 2nd September 2011 4:53pm #UserID: 5765 Posts: 2 View All Michael26's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Woolworths is supposed to be stocking them. You could call the woolies produce dept head office and ask which stores have them, or contact Pacific Fresh in Leeton, see if they are still shipping them.Just google for their homepage, and get the contact details. The Sumo is new in Oz, may have a short season. | About the Author 10th September 2011 7:35am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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krzystoff says... you can import the seeds, but our fascist quarantine nonsense will cost you $125-150 per shipment, plus you have to agree to the seeds being fumigated or cooked (not sure if this is a problem for the seeds). http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8867801&intCommodityId=3321&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0 there are alternative ways to bring such things into the country without going through quarantine -- your imagination and your fear are the only limits! | About the Author krzystoff melbourne 16th September 2011 3:00pm #UserID: 5686 Posts: 3 View All krzystoff's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Johnny says... to my knowledge Pacific Fresh in Leeton hold plant breeders rights (PBR) - no doubt the tree would attract a premium price - would like to know are Pacific Fresh releasing it (trees or seed) to "others" and if so at what price and what "ongoing" rights are attached to it - I know someone who would love to buy 200 to 300 trees “if the price is right” Thankyou | About the Author Johnny Western Aust 21st September 2011 9:59am #UserID: 5865 Posts: 3 View All Johnny's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lentildude says... John you are right, just confirmed with my Japanese friend. Yes totally different, I take that last comment back. I bought a tangelo today and it was sour and my friend said totally different - apart from the navel bump in common. I would really be keen to get a Dekopon tree or seeds in oz. Please let me know next time the fruit appears in a Sydney fruit shop, will definately make the trip. | About the Author George bluemountains 1st October 2011 10:52pm #UserID: 143 Posts: 29 View All George's Edible Fruit Trees |
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krzystoff says... seems like this is a very simple thing to achieve if you have a green thumb: http://www.gardenguides.com/88475-can-crossbreed-two-different-fruit-plants.html anyone with a large yard / greenhouse could grow some of these hybrid (sterile) fruiting trees, with a little effort. | About the Author krzystoff melbourne 10th October 2011 3:03pm #UserID: 5686 Posts: 3 View All krzystoff's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lentildude says... guys, anybody with a dekopan seed to sell/swap? Really keep to get the real dekopan (or by name Sumo) started this year. Am in the lower bluemountains Sydney. http://www.foodlibrarian.com/2011/02/sumo-citrus-dekopon-has-finally-arrived.html | About the Author George bluemountains 18th July 2013 4:39pm #UserID: 143 Posts: 29 View All George's Edible Fruit Trees |
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starling says... Xiem, I have tried searching for dekopon trees and have not come up with much. Basically, you can buy the fruit, but not the trees (I cannot even find the trees for sale in the US, or China). Update: these trees are not for sale on ebay japan (which doesnt surprise me, not a whoooole lot of gardening done in japan). The are not for sale on the brazilian ebay equivalent site. Sorry I couldn't be of more help S | About the Author whiteside 20th August 2013 12:08pm #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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starling says... Brain, I just spoke to a seller who says they will be available in nurseries by 2015. So I guess it might bet better just to wait, there will probably be grafted varieties. I can confirm that these trees are not aviailable for purchase in the US or anywhere else, something to do with patent. Only the fruit is available. cheers s | About the Author whiteside 20th August 2013 4:23pm #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JakfruitEttiquette says... In Australia this variety has been privately imported and grown, so you are unlikely to find trees right now in nurseries. Gardening is popular in Japan, nearly every home has a small neat garden, nearly all vacant land right into Tokyo grows vegetables. Sumo is a made up name in the west, I think Dekopon is even a trademark for these large seedless mandarins. The variety was originally named Shiranui, a cross of Kiyomi tangor X ponkan mandarin.If you try searching on google jp you will get more results, but in Japanese. Sayonara. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette 21st August 2013 7:29am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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starling says... Jakfruit, Yes, shiranui. I did search for this on ebay JP using chrome translate and babylon, but could only find dried fruit or flavoured confectionery, no trees. It is grown in CF but I could not source any trees of shirinui under that name or the Anglicised "Sumo". cheers s Cheers s | About the Author whiteside 21st August 2013 5:38pm #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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yry says... There was an article in the Sydney Morning Herald about "new fruits" a few days ago. Sumo was mentioned and a single grower has the rights in OZ. The article went on to say that one of the major supermarkets will stock it this season. As well it talked about a new apple that would not discolour when cut---- a boon to mankind ,would you say? | About the Author yry 22nd August 2013 8:21am #UserID: 8150 Posts: 44 View All yry's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lentildude says... I ordered from Woolies last night, ordered 7 pieces at $1.40 ea. Just arrived. The first one I cut had 3 seeds in it! Now just eating a piece of this Sumo as I type this, the taste is wiered, kind of like drinking cheap No frills Orange Drink (not juice). Has that cordial orange tang about it. Popped these seeds in the fridge, will wait till next month before planting out.. now I need Yuzu seeds.. thats another story.. | About the Author George bluemountains 22nd August 2013 6:50pm #UserID: 143 Posts: 29 View All George's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Chris says... With all the hoopla on the radio and in print about it, I decided to go and try these for myself. At about 350-400g each, not too many per kilo. I've tasted many citrus, but can't say this is the greatest tasting mandarin, even in the small sample I've tried. It has a lingering mandarin-orange taste that is not dissimilar to Tang (yuk!)orange drink in flavour. It peels easily and segments easily, and has little rag. I haven't found any seeds so far. They aren't that juicy nor exceptionally sweet say compared to a fully tree ripened Honey Murcott. For my palate, the fruit lacks the acidity, which you would expect given the satsuma parentage. | About the Author Chris Sydney 22nd August 2013 10:10pm #UserID: 2281 Posts: 263 View All Chris 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JakfruitEttiquette says... Dekopon is popular in Japan, but they give a lot of attention to detail in fruit production, only harvest at certain brix(sugar)levels. That would control the flavor elements of the eaten fruit. I tried it out of season in Japan, and thought thats nice, but not exceptional? | About the Author jakfruit etiquette 23rd August 2013 7:00am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Boris Spasky says... The retailers can command the price because the supply available domestically is very limited. Still a bit of a novelty factor. But the main factor for the high price is that the bulk are exported to Japan, where a couple of years ago the large fruit were fetching near $20 EACH! Woolies is selling a lot of variable smaller fruit that won't sell in Japan. | About the Author Boris Spasky 23rd August 2013 10:12pm #UserID: 7085 Posts: 184 View All Boris Spasky's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JakfruitEttiquette says... The Dekopon I saw in Japan were about 100 yen each ( = $1).Some speciality Citrus were $2 each. Overall fruit and vegetables are fairly cheap, ie about $1 for a cucumber,or bunch of spring onions, daikon radish, etc etc, or $1 or $2 per punnet of various mushrooms etc.So cost less than Australia. Most supermarkets have a very small section for gift fruit, ie "perfect" apples, nashi, box bunch of grapes or cherries, melon etc. These are $10 to $20 each, but really given as gifts. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette 25th August 2013 8:09am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... John, yes, I did get them on Friday, thank you so much. (I've been away from the computer all w/e and will send you a separate email when I can locate your email address at home.) Taste wise, the first one was disappointing, it was rather sour and a bit acidic. You can certainly taste the 'satsuma' lineage. It actually tasted and looked like my okitsu wase, except sumo is bigger of course. The second one was rather good, sweet but not too over the top. I think it adds weight that they must be picked at the right time. For my personal taste, I think a good imperial is better tasting than the sumo. It's hard to describe but the satsumas has a distinct taste and I'm not accustomed to it. I've also found one tiny seed - i.e. 1/3 the size of your average lemon seeds, anyone else can shed light on seed size? | About the Author Brain Brisbane 26th August 2013 10:05am #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... That's a relief Brain, glad you got them before the w/e because I don't think they were all that fresh to start with. If your seed is bulbous it should be viable, I'd get it planted without fail. Sumo's are in all Woolworths stores around me atm, $3.98 per Kilo. The Mrs bought a couple of kilo's yesterday, they appear to be fresher and I found 3 seeds in one fruit. | About the Author JohnMc1 26th August 2013 6:49pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JakfruitEttiquette says... Small Citrus seed could be variant types. In polyembryonic(seed true to type)Citrus vars, small seed may be occasional monoembryonic(variable)seed embryos. In triploid or tetraploid varieties, small seed could be a diploid or even haploid seed. Human sperm and egg are both genetically haploid, human beings are diploid. Citrus plants are commonly dipolid,some varieties are triploid(usually seedless), some tetraploid. Haploid plants are possible. Off type Citrus usually look like a reshuffle of the parent vars characters, if cross pollination hasn't happened. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette 26th August 2013 8:30pm #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jenny says... Found Sumo mandarin at Woollies Sunnybank Hills yesterday, interesting looking things, I bought 4 at $6.98/kg that was about $8. Delicious I must say! Sweet with perfect amount of acid. No seeds yet :-( (I've eaten 2 so far) the F&V manager I was talking to said he had about 3 or 4 in one lucky thing. Might have to get more... | About the Author Jenny Brisbane 31st July 2015 11:00am #UserID: 6352 Posts: 136 View All Jenny's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Dekopon finally turned up here at woolies, very nice bit of fruit. Some a little old tasting, some a little more acid which is actually nice. As for seeds, one per fruit in about every 10 fruit, except for the jakpotfruit(sic) with 7 seeds. I kept those seperate in case its a cross pollinated seed set. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 9th August 2015 10:23am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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frenchie says... I love the Daleys forum, I just discovered the Dekopon last week thanks to this thread... and by chance found some at my local Woolies yesterday. I have 4 seeds from 5 fruits... But I am a very beginner fruit grower. Anyone care to give a few tips for successful germination? What kind of growing medium? Thank you! | About the Author frenchie Alstonville, NSW 23rd August 2015 9:31am #UserID: 9102 Posts: 14 View All frenchie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... First thing is dont let Citrus seed dry out. I put them in a damp kitchen paper/napkin inside a zip lock bag, but watch for mould. If you dont know much about seed propagation, I would get a bag of seed raising mix, (not potting mix) to start the seeds. For citrus seed I would use a taller pot, the shape of a milk carton (not a flat punnet). | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 23rd August 2015 10:46am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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frenchie says... So I planted my seeds as per Jakfruit's advice. 3 of the 4 seeds germinated. @ of them had only one offspring, the 3rd had 2 of equal size. They are all about 5cm tall and quite slow growing. They are under shade cloth - they probably need more light. Anyone with tips for what to do next? I guess they need to be grafted on some kind of rootstock? Many thanks :) | About the Author frenchie Alstonville, NSW 29th November 2015 12:01pm #UserID: 9102 Posts: 14 View All frenchie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cambalong says... I found about 20 seeds a couple of years ago (one freakish fruit had fifteen seeds). Most took. One flowered at the end of the first year, and a single Sumo grew. It was only small (perhaps between five and six centimetres across), but had the same taste and texture as a sumo when we picked it a few days ago.
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jakfruit etiquette says... Dekopon is probably locked up as a PVR/Private var. here is some info about Mato Buntan https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forumsearch/?PHPSESSID=u91fpogr7kg6r74teppdei6p04&q=mato+buntan&cx=015759813901905237747%3Aeusvkysv9cy&cof=FORID%3A9 | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 15th December 2018 7:31pm #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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mc1 says... Actually, I found Dekopon being sold by a nursery in Mildura but when i enquired they said they don't sell to the public. :( https://www.victoriancitrusfarms.com.au/our-products/available-tree-list/ Also, i asked an ebay seller if they have dekopon, and they said they have some that will be available next year, but they are charging a whopping 500 per tree due to "e;unprecedented demand"e; and are only selling within their state (not ours). If it is indeed a private variety i wonder if they have the rights to be selling these plants... | About the Author mc1 Melbourne 17th December 2018 1:18pm #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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brad16 says... Apologies if this has already been suggested, but has anyone asked Daleys to buy them in? If a group of you get together and confirm a minimum order, I'm sure Daleys wouldn't mind doing some business. The only problems would be price and numbers. Daleys wouldn't want to be stuck with 100 trees at $100 retail each that they can't sell, but see what the numbers are and if that is an avenue to Dekopons. | About the Author brad16 GOROKAN,2263,NSW 17th December 2018 3:36pm #UserID: 14079 Posts: 175 View All brad16's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Any PVR fruit var could also be tied up with grower/packer contracts, ie if you grow that var, you must sell the fruit back to the PVR owners fruit seller. That may be why they wont sell trees to the public, who dont sign the contracts. Some PVR stonefruit growers near Swanhill Vic, had to pull out their trees after they refused to market the fruit to the designated fruit packer. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 21st December 2018 11:32am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Caleb (Staff) says... Hey everyone, I have been researching this for you. This is what I have found so far. "e;Dekapon is subject to no-propagation agreements in Australia so it can’t be distributed as budwood of the variety that is currently being grown. However recently it has been imported as a publicly available selection of Shiranui which should be out of quarantine late next year, so available to nurseries in 2020, all going well."e; We found this out from some people in the know on this variety, we will keep an eye out and if we can source it we'll add it to the website. Thanks, - Caleb from Daley's Fruit Tree Nursery | About the Author Caleb (Staff) Kyogle 21st December 2018 1:56pm #UserID: 19506 Posts: 35 View All Caleb (Staff)'s Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bangkokii says... I don't get it why some dekopons have a smooth skin and others a very bumpy one. Are they all the same fruit? Here this guy has smooth ones, i'll also post a pic of mine with bumpy skin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPusD01Fho4
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jakfruit etiquette says... Its reported that the seed of Sumo aka Dekopon aka Shiranui. are polyembryonic, meaning true or clonal from seed. Usually you should get a few seedlings from each seed and they should look identical. Its still possible to get off types from polyembryonic seed. The original parents are Satsuma mandarin var X orange x ponkan mandarin, so any off types could still be interesting. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette gotham city,3000,Vic 21st August 2020 8:40am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Edward3 says... I googled "Sumo Woolworths" and found a couple of nearby stores which have them for sale. So I bought 10 of them. The first one I tasted was indeed delicious and, what's more, it had 1 seed! But the next 3 fruits were not as tasty and had no seeds. A bit disappointing. I read on the net that they may need to be left on the shelf to ripen further, so I'll see. Has anyone else also found some variability in the taste? | About the Author Edward3 CARLINGFORD,2118,NSW 6th September 2021 9:34pm #UserID: 1655 Posts: 172 View All Edward3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... John Mc says... Sumo's arrived today. Bought the maximum amount you can get from Woolies online (36) found three seeds already in first three fruit. They'll be potted up first thing in the morning. What to do for the next 8 years? Hi John, I see that was in 2013...You were pretty close with the 8 year wait... | About the Author jakfruit etiquette gotham city,3000,Vic 10th September 2021 10:16pm #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julius.Z says... Just saw this thread today, just noticed it's been more than 10 yrs of this thread. Those pioneers who had collected & grown seeds at least 8+ yrs, are so respectful. Anyway, I believe my Sumo/Dekopon plants grafted are 100% true to type, and the attached photos tell the story. One noticeable difference between grafted Sumo with seedlings in this thread, is grafted ones don't have long thorns. Budwood/scion won't be available, grafted plants maybe available in the future...
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