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About the Author john53 sydney 8th April 2012 2:00pm #UserID: 6822 Posts: 23 View All john53's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Xiem says... I guess the ABC has two aims; to stimulate the inexperienced and to foster those already practised. Perhaps not an easy job. Touching lightly then backing up with hard information on the website is one way to do it. I don't watch enough of GA to judge whether they achieve these objectives. | About the Author Diego 8th April 2012 4:20pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I think dumbing shows down does not really stimulate the intellect or interest of many viewers including children or the inexperienced.When you scythe through the fluff GA doesn't seem to have much solid at the core with few messages to take away,educational value or scientific merit.Kids and those not familiar with wildlife could watch and enjoy Life On Earth with David Attenborough and take something meaninful away from it.Sound messages about nutrients,species,ecology and horticulture could be dished up in a palatable way. | About the Author Mike25 Cairns 8th April 2012 5:49pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author VF Wongawallan 8th April 2012 6:38pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Jason Portland 8th April 2012 6:56pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... VF I didn't see that one and yes I should have been more charitable as there are occasional worthwhile segments.I always plant deep when planting on mounds as I expect the mound to be eroded down over time.I wouldn't do for most species on flat ground,especially on clay soil due to the possibility of collar rot. | About the Author Mike25 Cairns 8th April 2012 7:02pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Xiem says... It was 25 September 2010 to be exact VF. Gardening Australia still has a fact sheet on the net. http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3019307.htm | About the Author Diego 8th April 2012 7:08pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author VF Wongawallan 8th April 2012 7:22pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author glennis brisbane 9th April 2012 9:35am #UserID: 6833 Posts: 15 View All glennis's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso 9th April 2012 10:56am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author glennis brisbane 9th April 2012 12:01pm #UserID: 6833 Posts: 15 View All glennis's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author john53 sydney 9th April 2012 3:45pm #UserID: 6822 Posts: 23 View All john53's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... That could have been Mike Fabian formerly of Limberlost.I understand that he was an advocate of the nursery graft which is situated at ground level or as low as possible.I have approach grafted two rootsock seedlings togethers together on durians and plan to put a single top on.Epicotyl and hypocotyl grafting can result in scion roots. | About the Author Mike25 9th April 2012 3:59pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... John, how interesting! I guess that with the grafted varieties, the deep planting may be acting in a similar way as if they were being marcotted and sending out aerial roots?(Maybe) Definitely goes against what we all practice. (BTW I had a chuckle,as I'm of Hungarian background - maybe there's some similar thought processes.) Mike, that sounds exciting- please keep us posted on your progress. | About the Author VF 9th April 2012 7:42pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Deep planting does work with many Aust natives. I have had good results here. I also planted my fruit trees deeper than their original soil level - based on advice for my climate, at the time. All the trees have survived - but I can't quite see the point? You have a rootstock for a reason, more often than not? Anyway - I did lose my loquat that had it's graft just below soil level - due to stem canker.... Maybe more work needs to be done on this as yet..? Didn't Mike Fabian have an interest in native frogs too Mike...? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 7:57pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda I think deep planting might be less suitable in this neck of the woods.I don't really know Mike Fabian but have met him once or twice.I know 4 Mikes into frogs but not him and they are one of the wildlife groups I had a bit to do with in the past.Over the years I have met many frog people. | About the Author Mike25 9th April 2012 8:05pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 8:11pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author GardeningAustraliaWanabee 9th April 2012 8:18pm #UserID: 650 Posts: 9 View All GardeningAustraliaWanabee's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda,root rot is a real problem in the wet half of the year even in well drained areas as the soil can stay wet for so long.Unless you're on nearly pure sand on drier sites Acacias struggle here.There are quite a few in the dry areas but only 1 or 2 very big species in the wet zones. I have seen many fruit trees die from being planted too deeply or where a well in clay soil has formed. | About the Author Mike25 9th April 2012 8:27pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Generally the idea of "deep" planting natives is to get the rootball as deep as possible...this aids more rapid establishment and helps to prevent drying out of the rootball. I am not quite understanding why you want/need/advocate to do this with "everyday" Grafted trees? Is the Graft not there for a purpose? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 8:32pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... So you plant deeply, but on mounds? That sounds a bit Irish ;-) Like I would plant on a hill within in a bowl depression for my zone...hmnnn? ;-) My point, I guess, is that the Jury is still out on deep planting...fads/theories come and go (eg: like crocking in the bottom of pots?) and I am sure the older timers here can remember plenty more... Wait n see maybe :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 8:41pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Planting deeply on mounds is not so crazy in rainy areas where the mound will be eroded no matter what you do and mounds drain well.Last month (1400mm) took a bit more soil off my mounded trees in spite of mulch.My citrus would be like stilt root mangroves if shallow planted on mounds.Most fruit trees are shallow rooted for a reason. Deep planting may be a good strategy for deep rooted, dry area species. | About the Author Mike25 9th April 2012 9:01pm #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 11th April 2012 4:34pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author sternus1 Australia 10th July 2014 8:17am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 10th July 2014 8:25am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... That's great MaryT. I have GA on series link so I can go back and watch previous episodes. My fav presenter was Paul Recher, he had some good ideas, esp the episode on truncheons. I have dreams of walking around my plot one day with my phone camera and uploading it to UTube just for fun. I uploaded one short vid of my multi-grafted pear tree. I definitely need to do a few to get the hang of it first, for me, it's not that easy. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 10th July 2014 11:49am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 10th July 2014 1:28pm #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author symiot Miranda 10th July 2014 5:24pm #UserID: 9796 Posts: 37 View All symiot's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 10th July 2014 5:35pm #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Thank you for the compliments MaryT but I wouldn't get too excited, there's a lot of room for improvement. GA keeps all their episodes online so you can go back and watch previous shows. I can't guarantee anything, but I'll see if I can record the ep and copy it onto a usb stick, so all you have to do is plug it into your new digital tv and watch. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 10th July 2014 8:04pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author TMary Neutral Bay NSW 10th July 2014 9:14pm #UserID: 9334 Posts: 159 View All TMary's Edible Fruit Trees |
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symiot says... Mary did you give Costa a pear, ginger & pecan nut cake at your place? ;) https://twitter.com/gardeningaus/status/488943136014483456
| About the Author symiot Miranda 15th July 2014 11:34pm #UserID: 9796 Posts: 37 View All symiot's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... There's never been a better time to post this: Compulsory viewing everybody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmFnarFSj_U | About the Author sternus1 Australia 16th July 2014 3:14pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I believe this was voted song of the year in Australia last year or so. Made the final couple at least. Gillette hate these guys now that no one shaves anyone. They are hero's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkLH4uZ73M | About the Author Jason Portland 16th July 2014 7:59pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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