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Figbarron starts with ... Hie all i purchased a Lemon Gold white Sapote tree in June and repotted mid july. Between the time i got it and potted it into a larger pot, it swelled its buds slightly and then nothing for about 2 weeks. I thought this was just cold weather interfering. After repotting and feeding with dynamic lifter and a little blood and bone it then put out larger buds as spring was broke in late August to Early September and then nothing. The buds look like the new growth that has tried to come out has fallen off and left black dots where they were originally emerged. I don't get frost where i am so i have ruled that out. I should mention that i tried giving it a bit of liquid feed and i got burnt leaf tips and quickly flushed the pot with water (this was before the first buds emerged). i have not given it anything apart from seasol every so often. Most of the leaves are still a healthy green but a few have slowly turned yellow and fell. Any Ideas? Kind regards
| About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 27th September 2016 6:06pm #UserID: 13865 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter91 says... I'm actually having the same problems with the buds forming and turning black and not growing with a few of mine, and I really can't put my finger on what the problem is as a few of my other ones in basically the same conditions are flushing new growth fine. Does anyone know what's actually happening? | About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 28th September 2016 7:34am #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... FB - Pic 4 is failed flowers. Im still learning about these plants after 5 years but dont worry, once it warms up they will put out lots of growth & yes avoid feeding till its warmer. They do perform better in the ground and also stay greener and grow a tiny bit over winter than nil in a pot. This is a strange cold start of Spring is also wearing down my patience - has been warmer years but maybe will heat up in next 2 weeks?? these 8c nights should be 15c soon - at least havnt had any sub 5c nights for quite a while - or even a frost out front. | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 28th September 2016 8:43am #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 29th September 2016 1:11pm #UserID: 13865 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 2nd October 2016 9:12am #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 3rd October 2016 1:29pm #UserID: 13865 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter91 says... Don't know what the deal is, but I noticed today that my Ortega that had this problem is starting to throw out new growth now anyhow. So I don't think they're dying, probably just finding it harder to adjust to your climate in the first year than others. I'll keep you up to date on how much it actually grows from here on out. | About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 9th October 2016 9:51pm #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Figbarron says... sure no worries. I'll update so that people having the same issues can know whats wrong. At the moment nearly 3 weeks later, nothing. The bark test shows its still green so its not dying. If it perks up or dies i'll update. at the moment i have given it some charlie carp (Organic Variant) on the 30th of September. No fertilizer burn as the first time. My Strawberries, figs and blueberries absolutely love charlie carp though :) | About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 10th October 2016 5:33pm #UserID: 13865 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Figbarron says... A positive update! I snapped a few pictures to show you its progress. It has started to produce some growth. I noticed that some buds have started to turn green and two of those have produced significant growth. It may have taken 6 months to get to this stage but i am happy. I sprayed the buds with pest oil when i noticed them turn green. Maybe i killed bugs that may have been destroying new growth or maybe its due to the warm summer weather.
| About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 11th December 2016 4:55pm #UserID: 14796 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 11th December 2016 7:48pm #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... FB - My Lemon gold is pumping new leaves - have you potted yours in a bigger pot like a 250mm yet? the Pike has some fertilised fruits and I found a single one hiding in my SueBelle. What was the Pollinator you have? May I suggest Kampong or Chris as these are good tasting and self fertile too. Also sometimes if you put in ground they push roots before top growth. If you can plant into ground now in a well prepared spot with compost and some rock dust it wont look back :) I added some pics this morning pic1 Lemon Gold i got same time as you pic2 four I potted up last march not moving but healthy.Should go to a 430pot soon pic3 Kampong & Golden Globe in ground with recent flush hardening - didnt move at all after planting Sept 2015 but must have been putting down roots. pic4 a Wilson about 3 years old in 430mm pot. Facing east getting nice morning sun has done a growth flush and doing another now
| About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 11th December 2016 11:52pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Figbarron says... I was worried about it and was ready to buy a replacement one. As for pollinators I only have this. I may buy a kampong depending on space as I am waiting for cherimoyas. Mines in a 300mm pot I recently gave it some chook pellet manure. And after I see more growth I will give it some liquid feed | About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 12th December 2016 8:48am #UserID: 14796 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter91 says... Ironically i did that for mylemon gold FB, so now have two. Lemon gold is said to be a pollinator so it might be worth buying a different variety for high quality fruits and pollination as kampong is self fertile anyhow. Vernon or Chris would be two good options as a second tree. There's a guy in victoria who has a few unique varieties so could be an option to see what he has too. Markmelb might still have his contact info. | About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 13th December 2016 8:26am #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... FB - sounds to me like your over fertilizing - cant push them - a little in Late March nothing over winter - put half handful & liquid feed eco-seaweed (1 tsp /9lt warter can) & foliar spray eco-seaweed monthly over next five months or when you remember - work on having good drainage by putting pearlite about 10% - sand no good down here as holds too much moisture and causes root rot in cold weather. | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 13th December 2016 8:39am #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 14th December 2016 1:26pm #UserID: 14796 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 14th December 2016 8:26pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Figbarron says... I see. I don't think powerfeed is organic anyways. I typically use dynamic lifter and then feed every fortnight with a weak organic feed like charlie carp NPK 1.6-0.4-0.7 on a fortnightly basis. I haven't killed any plants this way and my figs, berries and hawaiian guavas seem to love it. I had a look yesterday and i seem to be small buds opening into new branches along the stem so i don't need to cut it back for it to force new branches so i'm happy. Once i get a cherimoya i can see if i have enough space for either a vernon or chris. Any idea on where i can get grafting wood for those two instead or buying another tree? | About the Author Figbarron FRANKSTON SOUTH,3199,VIC 15th December 2016 12:15pm #UserID: 14796 Posts: 32 View All Figbarron's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Powerfeed with Troforte granular says is organically enriched - i sometimes also give plants a bit of aged sheep and cow manures and they like that - I find is easy to over do the chook pellets and they need a change too. I find rock dust helps alot as has lots of micro nutrients and - have used naked farmer which is brown coal and am trying small amounts of biochar. My Chris wont be big enough to harvest wood for a while yet. | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 16th December 2016 6:26pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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AC1 says... One experience Ive had with white sapotes is some varieties dont like backyards that get cold at night.The plant carries on with yellowing leaves dropping some. If the plant is in a pot place the plant in the front yard near bitumen road.Put shadecloth around it or put plant in dappled shade .The best heat bank around your property is bitumen it stores alot of heat during the day and releases it at night.Overnight temperature sensitvity issues apply alot more to us people trying to grow subtropical/borderline subtropical plants in temperate areas.There are more issues to consider. | About the Author AC1 HILTON,5033,SA 17th December 2016 9:59pm #UserID: 8055 Posts: 103 View All AC1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... im on a corner and with lots of hot road around me so i guess thats why my trio planting of Casimiroas are going so well at present with coolish weather still? but the ones out back in pots and 100lt bag doing ok but behind a just a tad - thats also why i dont get a frost and also the morning traffic creates a breeze like fans in Mildura do to stop frost from settling on their Mangos - I dont have a helicopter at my disposal :) | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 18th December 2016 1:24pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter91 says... AC1 that sounds pretty normal for the white sapote when it's adjusting to the climate change depending where you got it from, my Golden Globe completely defoliated because I planted it too early, grew back totally fine and is now one of my biggest white sapote's. I find that they can generally handle winters here fine when unprotected? Some will go deciduous and others will just continue to grow. The yellowing of leaves only really happens to the lower leaves that are starting to fall off due to increased top growth in my experience. We live pretty close, so maybe there's a difference in your area, what varieties are you growing and have yours fruited yet AC? | About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 18th December 2016 2:03pm #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... there you go - patience is a virtue - remember to remove any growth below graft.Dont worry about flowers etc as real mature sized fruit may not happen for a couple more years. They can also flower anytime they want totally out of sync with each other as well - having a self pollinator like Kampong and chris and maybe Suebelle - I only have one fruit growing and is 3+ years now - the Reinecke next to it has a 5inch bottle base on trunk - very funny : Pic1 Pyke in 100lt bag with fruit Pic2 Reineke left Suebelle right Vernon rear (tape and tree guard stop rotten earwigs eating first new growth - it works too - will remove soon but it stretches anyway. As far as big pots go will use air root bags in future - they work too but harder to move
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