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amanda starts with ... Hi all... has anyone got these guys growing successfully? I don't know what to do with mine.. :( Happy Earth - what have you fed, watered and done with yours- it looks pretty good? I have googled them but the info' is quite conflicting. Others forums say water and fertilise heaps to push them along - but the technical info' says water little and frequent and don't fertilise too much (as they are slow growing and thus sensitive) Which is true!? I'm confused. (mine nearly 3yrs and seedling small leaf type - from Daleys) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 21st July 2009 10:28am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hey Amanda, Jaboticabas are naturally fairly slow growing. They seem to be always growing though - putting on a little flush of growth here there. I just add compost and a bit of BD lifter around my jaboticabas (in fact just about all my fruit trees). Although fairly drought tolerant, they do LOVE WATER - as much as you can give them. They are on one of the few fruit trees that I grow, along with the black sapote and rollina, that thrive with lots of water. In fact in their native habitat they often get flooded with water. Jaboticabas are well worth the effort and patience - One of my favorite trees aesthetically and the fruits and damn good too! Hope this helps, Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 21st July 2009 11:06am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Jaboticabas in their natural habitat (the Cerrado region of Brazil) generally grow on sandy acidic soils around water courses and washes. The climate in the Cerrado - semi-humid with distinct dry winter 800-1600mm rainfall. My experience with growing them (Nthn. NSW)has been that they do best if you keep up fertility and dont let the soil dry out too much or for too long, otherwise they stop growing and take a bit to get them started again. mulching every year with a feeding mulch is really beneficial. Keep weed competition down, esp. grasses Oh yeah, they hate being in the shade of other trees, at least around Nthn.NSW. Though in Geraldton, with the intense sunlight and dry, they may well benefit from a bit of shade in the first few years. Do what works in your climate and soils to modify microclimate in favour of your trees A bit of background on the natural habitats of the trees you're growing is always a help in that regard. | About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 22nd July 2009 11:16am #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... PS Happy Earth..i wasn't taking the mickey! I see on your web site u use BD prep's - is Earth Magic home made or something u can buy? My soil really needs help in this area...getting better all the time..but i have been looking at the Nutritech products..(can't afford them at present)..have u used any commercially available BD products? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 23rd July 2009 9:40am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hi Amanda, lol ... no, someone else does the cow horn thing for us. 'Earth Magic' is our play on words for biodynamics. At our place we occassionally put out a biodynamics preparation called BD500. It cost almost nothing to buy and use - you can by it online if interested but you probably need to do a course first: http://www.biodynamics.net.au/active_member_products.htm Hope this helps, Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 24th July 2009 8:31am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hay HappyEarth...I keep meaning to visit my local dog groomers (there's lots here) and start collecting the dog hair (lots of shearing done due to heat n grass seeds)...it's pure nitrogen..but would it b better to compost first? I'm sure I could get hair from hairdresser too..but probly too many chemicals heh? What do they put in the cow-horn? and what happens do u think? I have always wondered about this?! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 25th July 2009 8:55pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... They put horse manure (or is it compost) in a cows horn and bury it over winter. In spring its dugup and then small portions of this are mixed in water, stirred in a special way, and then scattered around. The theory is esotecic and came from Rudolf steiner (have you heard of steiners schools?) who was a clairvoiyant. I guess it works in the same was as homeopathy. Its so cheap to apply I just do it anyway from time to time. Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 26th July 2009 7:39am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... jabots do love water makes critical difference to fruit size to induce early fruiting ringbark second half august any 3-4- year old limb provided tree is meter high jabots do well in constantly moist soil provided it is not stagnant rollinia in same position would rot
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recher says... speedy replies Oh yeah, they hate being in the shade of other trees, at least around Nthn.NSW. I 100% disagree. I am growing 78 jabots up to 30 years old full sun in early years seems to bleach the leaves. overall they look much nicer growing in shade I also have many spontaneous seedlings that perform better than nursery grown stock. I have self sowners doing remarkably well germinating and keep on growing established in close proximity to much much bigger trees. so far tho shade seems to be a limit on [production but too early to be deinitive also chance sun yellowing nutrient defiency but condition obsrved all over town | About the Author recher1 dorroughby 26th July 2009 7:56am #UserID: 11 Posts: 26 View All recher1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi recher..that's interesting thanks. It can b hard translating experience from one side of Aust to the other. The sunlight here in Geraldton is very intense. I would never choose anything with big soft leaves for my garden as they just don't cope. Same with anything purple (eg:flax) they just burn up. Yellowing on the sun-exposed side of citrus, in an intense sunlite situation, usually has some strange relationship with Zinc.. it would be interesting to experiment on a cupla your trees and see if Zinc spray helps? Thanks for your comments - what do u feed yours? Where is dorroughby? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 26th July 2009 10:16am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Hi Recher, I agree, they do look much better in shade,both M.cauliflora and M.jaboticaba, but what i said was really in regard to fruiting so was only part of the story and a bit of a misleading statement if not qualified. There are a few trees I planted in Clunes ('93-'94?), some in full sun and , some in shade. The ones in full sun fruited at younger age and yielded heavier crops than the ones in shade when they eventually did. That's not to say that the ones in shade may not produce really well eventually. The ones in sun are near the house and may get a bit more water than the others, I haven't seen them for a few years now. Also I've had little experience with really mature trees. Maybe I should reserve judgement for another 20-30yrs. :-) I do remember you mentioning some years ago that cincturing large branches of Jaboticaba is a good way to induce fruiting. It's also employed by some commercial Avocado growers in climatically marginal areas. Three years ago I made 20 litres of Jaboticaba Wine... Very nice. ;-P | About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 27th July 2009 9:39pm #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks Speedy..BTW: did u get my e-mail with the biolytix zone soil test results at all? I think most of my sub-tropicals could do with some afternoon shade in the summer - while they are young. The combo of the wind, heat n sun is pretty full on? I am looking forward to seeing how the microsprayers go and have recently got the wood-chip (+ other goodies) out around them - your advice in particular (and ohers) has been invaluable...the jabo's have recently put out a lovely flush of growth which I think is pretty positive as it's freezing at the moment! :((( (too many years north of 26th parallel has ruined me!!) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 28th July 2009 9:25am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Recher - would u be able to tell me more about Rollinia please? I am going to plant one soon and it was the only one I could find in Perth (ex-Daleys plant) It sounds like a lovely fruit so I don't want to mess it up? We recently had 2ºC o/night (coldest in a decade) is this going to be ok for a rollinia do u think? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 30th July 2009 9:25am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hi Amanda, The Rollinia is quite tropical but it will survive 2 degrees but not much colder. They are deciduous during the winter here in Wollongong. At the Sydeny botanical gardens there is a really old rollinia that fruits every year - fruit are delicious! Like lemon custard :) Rich www.happpyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 30th July 2009 3:09pm #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 31st July 2009 9:29am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 31st July 2009 3:25pm #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... there are two rollinia species running around australia they are generally mis-id'd what is known as deliciosa is too tropical what is usually called mucosa is the hardier one. i have them growing side by side and deliciosa struggles while mucosa fruits heavy and even self sows but dont tell the native plant Nazis bec they'll call it an invasive weed. | About the Author recher1 dorroughby 1st August 2009 8:39am #UserID: 11 Posts: 26 View All recher1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hey Paul, 'Grey' is a grafted variety that daleys sells. Im really just after a grafted green sapote. Do they fruit well for you at your place? How big do they get? Interesting what you said about the rollinia being mid id'd ... sounds like the whole inga edulis confusion all over again. Have a great day, Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 1st August 2009 9:25am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Recher/Happy Earth...and it doesn't help that the plant is not ID'd either - mine a seedling but no marked as to mucosa/deliciosa.. :( Any way to tell difference? Thanks for info Recher - is KN potassium nitrate? Is there any particular reason u use this (eg: cheaper, effective on your soil, etc?) Do u dissolve it in H2O or sprinkle? How much do your subtropicals get? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 1st August 2009 11:24am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... I think the 'grey' is named after Don Grey (Gray?), a fruit grower in FNQ. White sapote 'Chris' is also apparently names after his wife. The story goes that she prevented him giving the original tree (seedling) the chop for under performing (not fruiting) after many years, but when it eventually did fruit, it was good enough to keep and distribute. I seem to recall an Abiu cv.'Grey' also. | About the Author Swan Hill, Nth. Vic 1st August 2009 11:47am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... just a bearing seedling with no more or less superior characteristics than many other such performing seedlings. for example i have a green sap that bears regularily up to a few hundred fruit* but i wouldn't give any name that didn't include the word seedling ('grey seedling')so people know it is not varietal status but a selected seedling. * last crop was huge. bigger than any b4. (fertilizer) but had to coppice about 4m above ground where 4 major limbs stumped back to 800mm because the tree was so apical i couldn't harvest. the coppicing has worked well and expect crop near future. | About the Author 8th August 2009 4:16pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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chia says... Hey, I would love a recipe for jaboticaba wine or liqueur. I have grown jaboticaba's before up north and am in the process of growing some here in my backyard. I bought some wine years ago up in bundaberg and was great. Thanks. Chia
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recher says... if your rollnia is handling your winters okay its the more hardy species. the other you'd notice the suffering kn...more for your money....less acidifying than other N sources?????....i've gotten god reslts with 25 kg kn, 40 kg blood bone 7-6-0, and 25 kg dolomite mixed i use not enough. last couple years more than ever and itsabout 2 tons over 14 ha. with widevariability in who gets how much. i got 32 ha and dont fertilize the native forest, bit of paddock, or 7 bodies of water i broadcast. i prefer the kn fines to granules bec. i get so much dew i believe it turns the kn component into a foliar feed on the udergrowth andoverallmore effective and less lossto air bbut this is contrary to recommendation and your climate might best be with granules. i also put together the pto spray unit after buying it 20 years ago and have started foliar feed (motive fix boron defiency) with tractor and200 ltr drums great fun not doing it nearly enuf | About the Author Recher 15th December 2009 12:22pm #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... yes they fruit very well tho there can be quality problems. i grow both races planting seed directly in ground is way to go oldest tree always suffered cork bark rot...pretty much dead but several of itsself sown seedlings growing vigorously superhealthy tree was 12 meters when i had it cut back to 6 bec it was so pyramidal i couldn't climb to get any of the circa 300 fruit in two years it has coppiced and growing away very well with future fruits attainable | About the Author Recher 15th December 2009 12:28pm #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... How long does it usually take for a Jabot to flower usually? Mine has a few cauliflowers afer only 6-8 months in the ground, and no larger, but a little sturdier, than those you usually find at bunnings etc. Is this normal? My only real experience with them was my Grandfather's tree that took a full 7 years to flower, and from that point hasnt stopped fruiting profusely for about 8 years... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 14th April 2010 9:40am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... oh BJ - I am envious! well done - I am going to hammer mine with water now!! thanks for the info so much! I have great drainage so wet feet no prob's here. Tell us about the plant please!? where did u get it? is it grafted? what type - lge or small leaf? I don't know much but 6-8 months sounds great - how old do u think it was in the pot? What type of soil (+ it's pH) do u have? what do u feed it? (I can't look up your edibles as I am on dial up - too slow..) Jujube - I am really inspired that u are getting fruit in Melb - I will take my 4 babies with me down south for sure! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 14th April 2010 9:37pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I just went out and had a close check again with the torch. It has one large cauliflower, and a number (at least a dozen) protrusions from the trunk and lower branches which I am presuming will turn into flowers. It is interesting as it has a sore at its base, presumably where a graft went a bit wrong. Could that also be stressing the plant into flowering? The soil is an old quarry. I had a blueberry in the hole it is in. The Bluberry died, so I put the Jaboticaba in its spot, so it would be slightly acidic from the Blueberry soil. I just use Organic Xtra every few months. And I have been experimenting with 'man water' the last few weeks, as I couldn't be bothered to jump up the extra terrace to go on the citrus... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 14th April 2010 10:06pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi BJ - for some reason I thought u were a female!? "boy/girl water" is great stuff! I have trained my family to bush wee...healthy urine is sterile (unlike poo) 1/10 dilution according to the texts...but u have rain. So it's grafted, yes? What kind of quarry? (eg: mineral sand, gravel etc..) Speedy mentions their natural environment above- sandy acidic soils around watercourses (which may indicate damp river sands...) I have so many questions I'm afraid - it's really interesting to me! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 15th April 2010 12:21am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Hi Amanda, this BJ is a boy, the other one is female. It appears to be grafted. The sore I mentioned makes it a bit ambiguous, but the graft palnt seems to be growing a bit stronger than the seedling (above sore is slightly thicker than below) The quarry is sandstone and bushrock. It takes hours to get a plant into the ground in the natural soil here. We have a natural water course underground here. There is definately an almost permanent one 50m away, but I doubt the Jabot has tapped deep enough to find a source of its own. The house 2 doors down has an aquifer or spring explode under the house when it rains hard, and it seeps constantly. But I doubt that is close enough to help my trees out... The plant is also shaded in the morning by a big mock orange until around 10.30. At this stage they are still just flowers, so we'll see what happens... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 15th April 2010 10:18am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Good luck BJ! let us know how it goes. Hi Steven - wee will pick up some normal body flora as it passes the outer body skin ... if it's left to "ferment" in a holding tank then they will breed up and it gets quite smelly. If your urine was not sterile (in your bladder) - then u would have a urinary tract infection..fresh wee from a healthy person is very harmless and not germy at all - I think it's just the yukk factor for most folk. Interesting about the toilet! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 15th April 2010 12:03pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... Unfortunately urine is not disease free from a human perspective since there are many viruses that can survive for long periods of time in people's urine. So while it may be a good idea to fertilize with urine in general, i would be cautious about urinating in areas where other people (especially children) would come into contact. | About the Author electra Fremantle 25th April 2010 12:36pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I thought I should post a few pictures quickly on here of the little Jaboticaba that has decided to fruit for me. It is about 60cm tall, has been in the ground less than a year, has at least a dozen flowers and one green fruit. I think I purchased it in a small grow bag from the nursery around the corner, which seems to get its stock from Forbidden Fruit, so it may have already been over 2yrs when purchased, but it still seems young/small to bear....
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amanda says... Thanks for the pics BJ! Really interesting. My biggest and best Jab' got split right down the middle by a star picket - I taped it up but it was not fazed in the slightest - so it must be a fairly tough tree?? Anyway - I was wondering if u have something special there and should grow some of your seed and see if that is as precocious? Recher would know - but he only pops in the forum very rarely. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 2nd May 2010 11:47am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... An unfortunate accident saw the trunk of my jaboticaba cleaved almost in two last year. The wound was a couple days old when I discovered it. I bound it up as best I could - and today - a year later - removed the wraps etc. It has healed and going well - tough tree - no fungal problems either. It may likely never be as strong at that point though - but it was worth a go? :)
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recher says... never ever seen or heard of grafted jabot in this country. jabots are great healers i used to cincture branches in the early days to bring on fruit and they all healed rapidly growing about 78 all over 22 years and a few 30 plus biggest of the lollipops about 5 meters this year i started to prune out the guts with a chain saw to access fruit easier and also maybe bigger fewer fruit??? i started doing this after viewing jaboticaba youtubes where the trees were obviously pruned this way amanda...i couldnt be sure from the pic but r u sure you got the regular jabot as photo of tree looked like it could be large leafed species? taxonomists now have jabots in genus Plinia but i'm still stuck on Myrciaria using old nomenclature i got cauliflora, jaboticaba (lrg leaf), floribunda, vexator, glomerata, also marlieria edulis now plinia edulis, m. cauli. 'sabara', .... what 'pisses' me off is there are sevral more specis and i dont have them Biosecurity is a nightmare. Was a time you could bring in myrtacea no problem now they are rightfully paranoid about guava rust, and incorrectly scared of a humungous bunch of stuff note a simple seed soak in 1% sodium hypochlorite eliminates guava rust fears. | About the Author 29th September 2010 4:20am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... jim wrote many viruses that can survive for long periods of time in people's urine. So while it may be a good idea to fertilize with urine in general, i would be cautious about urinating in areas where other people (especially children) would come into contact. recher says if that were the case there'd be immense knowkledge and caution about proper disposal of urine. 1) my understanding is such viruses do not survive outside for a microsecond 2) viruses in urine do not compare to the bacterial load in poop. Yet everyone of us eats poop bacteria every day. Everyone of us harbours poop bacteria in our arm pits. You can not escape the little critters | About the Author 29th September 2010 4:25am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... After hearing so many praises for this fruit that I finally got a tree and it's growing nicely in a pot . I didn't picture tasting the fruit until maybe 5 years later but came across it selling in a punnet for $3 at a fruit store in Westfield Liverpool NSW this morning . I got excited and bought two punnets . I was disppointed with the taste . The skin tasted bitter and there wasn't much flesh at all to it. It tasted almost like a purple grape with seeds . I'm putting this fruit on my tasted but dislike category . It's in there with the Pepino and Babaco. Now what do I do with the tree I'm growing ? Hopefully the Green Sapote doesn't fall into this category but where can I buy one to try ? | About the Author Michael Wakeley 9th October 2010 9:02pm #UserID: 1746 Posts: 178 View All Michael's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Chia says... Hi Folks, want to know who has cooked parsnip greens, i munch on them a little when working in the garden, sweet, and am tempted to add them to the juicer but have no info on them and this is only my 2nd year growing them and I have such a healthy crop, they look great. So, can I cook'em is the Q, Cheers, Chia
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HappyEarth says... I find they taste great - kind of like lychees, but definitely not with the skin. My main gripe with them is the flesh adheres to the seed strongly. Other than that, they are a superb backyard tree thats good to graze on when in fruit. As for green sapote, that is very similar to mammey sapore if you have tried that. Its different and probably not to everyones taste at first. Imagine a sweet pumpkin and your getting close to how it tastes. You can buy them from tropical fruit world in summer. Pepino and babaco rate well down the list of edible fruits for me too. Easting my first crop of cherimoyas at the moment - WOW! I hope you have one of those planted Michael? Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth1 Wollongong 25th October 2010 5:08pm #UserID: 215 Posts: 94 View All HappyEarth1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I had my first taste of Jaboticaba this week - the family dog was helping itself to fruit which had fallen from the tree, otherwise we wouldn't have even known they were there amongst the foliage. Would highly recommend growing them, pity they are so slow to crop. A nightmare to clean the seeds if you wish to post them, the pulp clings to the seed and is very difficult to clean off.
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John Mc says... Pepino and Babaco down the list of favourites? I don t know about that. I had a beautiful very sweet, very juicy excellent tasting Babaco on the WE, sweet as, skin and all. Today, I picked a beatiful very sweet very juicy rockmelon tasting Pepino, yummo. You might have to try some of mine sometime. | About the Author JohnMc1 25th October 2010 9:41pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Hi Rich , It's almost been a year since I've been to your garden . I can still recall those big delicious paw paw you have growing. I really want to grow a Cherimoya but I don't think I have the space. They are actually hard to find at my local nurseries. Even though I don't like the Babaco but it does look very impressive hanging from the tree. I have three plants in pots full of fruits. I gave a pot each to my sister and mother and they seemed to like the fruit. The one I have left is starting to branch out as well. | About the Author Michael D Cabramatta 25th October 2010 11:02pm #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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j says... I've got one Jab from perrys and another from Daleys. Perry's tree has smaller leaves and Daleys has the bigger ones. They are within 20 feet from each other, so I'm assuming they are different varieties should cross pollinate each other. I've included pics. The perrys jaboticaba has leaves that seem to a little yellow on the edges. When it dropped it leaves earlier this month and popped out a new flush, the new leaves where almost lime yellow. They have since started to get greener in colour. Is this normal? Or do the yellow edges signify lack of something? I've kept the soil moist & mulched and the mix I have used is acidic.
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amanda says... I am wondering if Jaboticabas are 'extremely' salt sensitive? I have noticed that since mine have been watered with only rain water- they are looking so much better. They are in tree sacks in the shade house now - but we have had good consistent rain this winter - plus I am using it from the tanks - and they are going mad this winter!? I wasn't expecting much growth over the cold winter - but they have put out the most they ever have? (and no burnt margins or yellowing either...) They also seem to love Seasol/Seaweed? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 1st August 2011 9:24am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... They hate salt. I started emptying the baby's bath water on the plants and noticed a few (jaboticaba, bananas and carmbola esp.) didn't seem to like it. I assumed the baby products wouldnt be too bad for the garden, but when I read the label there were about 50 different forms of sodium in there. So now it just goes on the tolerant plants - kwai muk, a few eugenias, sapodilla and wongai. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 1st August 2011 9:37am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks BJ - I just found an interesting site that discusses salinity issues with a variety of plants - seems that chemical fert's are not the way to go for these guys also (increases salinity) They recommend weak fish emulsion and NO chemical nitrogen sources...(only organic) I am guessing it is finding the regular rainfall more reliable than my forgetfulness too! :-O I have been really surprised at how hardy and satisfying the kwai muk is to grow..? So far mine has not been bothered by anything in Gero - not even the scale or aphids that were invading the plants right next to it. It's a plant I would be prepared to try in many locations...what do u think? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 1st August 2011 10:06am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... My jaboticabas get burnt leaf edges very easily when I fertlise with strong NPK chemical fertlisers and they hate chlorides in the fertliser.They have fruit now and usually have 2 to 5 fruitings a year.My large leaf type is yet to fruit and yellow jabs will never fruit.I saw a tree that has huge furry fruit and bares just once or twice a year. | About the Author Cairns 5th August 2011 7:21pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Ok Mike - thanks again...I will give the B&B with 10% potash a try :) Anyone know how to get basalt rockflour in WA? Does it have a brand name? I have a top quality liquid trace element product that I like using - maybe this will be ok. They greened up beautifully one year (in the ground) but I didn't write it in my black book - I can't quite remember what it was - maybe the liquid Powerfeed, followed by seasol I put thru the fertigation system... They suffered badly from the 'yellows' in my orchard... :-( (which has the secondary-recycled water sub reticulated in the soil...) They were totally plethoric in there. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 6th August 2011 11:43am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda the rockflour is called min+ and because my natural ph is a feather below 6 dolomite is helpful.With the micronutrients I start with the basice yates or searles shaker and add extra boron,chelated fe and zn/mn.I don't need mn really as I sometimes use mancozeb.They fruit mostly in response to sudden water after a few weeks of dryness.Summer crops are bigger and tastier. | About the Author Cairns 6th August 2011 3:43pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Lucky U Mike. I am really looking forward to the day I get to try this fruit :) I am using liquid HiTrace (from a rural supplier) it's great value - 60ml thru my fertigation system does around 70 trees! It has everything except Mg (magnesium - which I don't need much of anyway) - I don't know why it doesn't have Mg - it would be interesting to ask the Aust manufacturer. My natural soil pH is a 'feather', or two, over neutral. But the subsoil horizon is that bright yellow coarse brickies sand....it's actually lovely stuff. But under that is limestone :-( Here is a pic of what mine used to look like, in the ground. Very unhappy guys...
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Mike says... Amanda frustratingly they drag their 'backsides' for the first 3 years or so then speed up and fruit at about 5 years old and 2.5m.They are very heavy cropping and rather sweet and grape like.You bite or gum a split in the skin and suck out the middle swallowing seeds like passionfruit and spit out the skin. | About the Author Cairns 7th August 2011 7:55pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Recher says... YES- I prune for two reasons 1) Too often they get an unthrifty, see thru look, esp. after heavy fruitings. I cut back by 1/3 to 1/2 2) LAst year after looking at some jaboticaba youtubes, I thinned out by removing a lot of branches. I'm talking jabots that are 4 to 5.5m high with mulitple vertical crisscrossing branches. remove up to 2/3. Will certainly make accesssing fruit easier. Results not in. | About the Author Recher 13th August 2011 6:32pm #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I enjoyed some today and noticed both rambutam and mangosteen flowering out of season.Yes Amanda I prune the living daylights out of them.I keep them at 4m and 4m diameter with a window slice to the centre for plucking.They get well over 10m tall and are very densely foliaged.One at Kamerunga must have been 15m tall and a 6m wide cylinder that was almost impenetrable.I remove about 40% of the foliage once a year and contain height and width. | About the Author Cairns 13th August 2011 6:47pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Great info Recher and Mike - thanks. I have been a bit nervous to touch mine as they are so slow growing. Mine are still very small after 4yrs - I don't think I have the 'hang' of growing them yet. Our summer seems to knock them back a fair bit - but they are going well in this, their wettest winter so far (lol - mine still less tham 1m tall after 4yrs - can't imagine a 15m tall tree!) So if you remove branches are u not removing fruting wood though? Doesn't it fruit on the same wood year after year? Or do you need some new wood? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 14th August 2011 10:44am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Damn Mike - I'll have to get my guys up running then! :) kg's of fruit sounds right up my alley. Maybe this winter is them finally doing their thing...fingers crossed! :D I've never seen such a sluggish plant before...if it were anything else I would have given up by now. I get the feeling it's one of "those one's" and that once you nail it's requirements then u see some action.. The only other plant I have this much trouble with is my african pride.. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 15th August 2011 9:34am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... I have a 16 year old jaboticaba trees. the biggest crop was 50 fruits the year before last, some of those as big as a 50 cent coin. http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/my/l/2369/jaboticaba-grafted.jpg | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 15th August 2011 2:34pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... Good to hear, hopefully I also get two crops a year in Eden, I had two flower flushes on my large leaf form, last season and got one fruit on the second flush. I didn't get much, as i invited around my fruit geek mates for the tasting and we divided it up. But all were impressed with the flavor and consequently bought trees. | About the Author allybanana Eden 15th August 2011 9:44pm #UserID: 4544 Posts: 372 View All allybanana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... I think it is a really nice looking tree anyway and like having it in my garden. I have considered getting another to help with pollination, but 2 non producing trees on a small block might test my patience! Very generous of you allybanana to share your only fruit. How many years did you wait for one fruit? | About the Author gus karrinyup 15th August 2011 10:58pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... sure your tapwater isn't too alkaline for them Amanda? Maybe they need a little squeeze of lemon? I think they like acidic conditions. I have only had mine for a couple of months but I have put it in azalea potting mix and it appears to have grown a little already. I thought I was imagining it, but my wife noticed it too. | About the Author gus karrinyup 16th August 2011 12:18am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... sure your tapwater isn't too alkaline for them Amanda? Maybe they need a little squeeze of lemon? I think they like acidic conditions. I have only had mine for a couple of months but I have put it in azalea potting mix and it appears to have grown a little already. I thought I was imagining it, but my wife noticed it too. | About the Author gus karrinyup 16th August 2011 12:18am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda,your tree still looks alright and as I said before they are sooks about chlorides and strong fertlisers when young.The ph should be around 6.5 and I never water my ones.Just keep mulching and fertilising and it will take off eventually.I prefer the small leaf jaboticaba as they have larger and more frequent crops and taste a bit better I reckon.There are a few other types in Aust. and heaps in sth america and some have larger rougher fruit that are not as smooth. | About the Author Cairns 17th August 2011 8:08pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I have no idea if they are large or small leaf types? I had them sent over from Daleys a few years back - but the label didn't say which one. What's the size difference between the two leaves? Mike - the trees got worse than that than that pic, eek! ....(just couldn't find the photo) I thought I was going to lose them. They look good now - in tree sacks in the shade house. It's far too hot and dry for them in summer, here. (pH is around 5.5 - so maybe too acid?) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 17th August 2011 9:44pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda the small leaf type like yours has leaves about 30 to 35mm long is densely foliaged and has fruit 22mm to 27mm in diameter,rarely to 35mm and some are smaller.The larger leaf type has sparser foliage and leaves around 55 to 60mm long with fruit browner and less shiney.pH of 5.5 is ok, and they are heat tolerant so long as humidity is not too low.If UV gets above 16 for prolonged periods the leaves of most trees burn. | About the Author Cairns 18th August 2011 9:33pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Wow - that's really interesting Mike! thanks heaps. Mine def' small leaf then. Now I know :) Yea - summer sees very low humudity and high UV here. No wonder they were struggling in the orchard...poor things. They should be happier when we move south...thanks again - you have explained a lot that I was missing. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 18th August 2011 9:39pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Maybe Mike - but it's very harsh here. I noticed when I dug them up that they didn't have much of a root system - certainly not a deep one. Maybe the sand drains far too fast. The Wampi's (right next to them) couldn't have been more different - with a large matted fibrous root system - no wonder they love their food n water...!? Some sub tropical plants don't handle the summer here (except the kwai muk) The atemoyas, longons, wampi's and rollinia all suffered. Mangoes and loquats hate it here too (too saline) but other things adore it - passionfruit, citrus, acerola, guava, peach n nectarine, fig, grape, mulberry, white sapote, grumichama, kei apple, pitanga, beach cherry, capulin. I think it has a lot to do with the salinity, strong winds and lack of humudity. It's not a place for the more tricky species I guess, yet. Maybe they needed a more shady spot rather than full sun. That was my 'feeling' anyway. I am determined to keep them going now that they can't be imported from over east....so that they can be shared with my fellow species-starved west aussies! :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 18th August 2011 11:26pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... They are in big tree sacks gus (ready for when we get to move...sometime this century) Haven't done anything to the mix (premium potting mix plus some pig poo) I am curious/surprised as to how it can be that way though...maybe it's the decomposing leaf litter..? I was using an Osmocote slow release fert also. I will keep an eye on it from now on. Will stick to the rainwater, blood n bone and seasol I think... I really don't like managing fruit trees in pots, myself, it can be hard to to keep everything just right. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 20th August 2011 11:25am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Tas1trees has them: http://www.tass1trees.com.au/ They are in Baskerville. I have recently got two from there. | About the Author 27th October 2011 8:46pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... don't get me wrong, they are still very much an exotic. I have never eaten one, or even seen a Jabot tree. I have met very few people that have tried them, but most that do seem to highly recommend them. I just can't imagine something so popular to those that have experienced them, being almost unheard of outside these forums. I would imagine that 20 years ago without such forums, the jab would be even more rare? Has anyone seen a fruiting Jaboticaba in Western Aus? | About the Author 3rd November 2011 12:02am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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KjW says... Hi All, This is my Jaboticaba in Rockhampton I planted the tree in 2000 approx 600mm high, not sure which month and it first fruited in 2009. It's now about 3.5/4m high, I had 1.2m of water in the yard during the floods and thank goodness it survived, I lost a few trees that were just as tall and lost everything that went under water. The fruit vary in size as can be seen in the pics. They have a tougher skin than grapes with one pea sized seed. It's hard to discribe the taste, I wouldn't say they were anything exciting(not like a Mango) but they are quite morish grabbing handfulls off the tree while your getting around the garden. I had some in a container just covered with water and they were still quite edible after about a week. Cheers Ken It's a bit hard to distinguish the tree with the others in the background, so I've added an extra pics with it outlined.
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Gus says... They are great pics kjw. I can't beleive how big your tree is. Interesting to hear the different opinions on how the fruit tastes. I guess it is a personal preference, but it is still really cool growing a fruit that you never see for sale. Interestingly the leaves on your tree look like a big leaf variety? Is a little hard to tell, but i think the leaves on mine look smaller. | About the Author 4th November 2011 9:09pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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KjW says... Hi Amanda, WOW! I know their slow growing, but yours are exceptionally slow. Must be the relaxed life style over there or something so their in no hurry to grow. I'd say I might have better soil here (brown river flat soil)only being about 200m from the Fitzroy River. I've never fed the tree other than mulch & plenty of water, the worms might have helped a bit to... I'm just glad it survived the flood and I'm now able to enjoy the fruit from it. | About the Author John42 Rockhampton 5th November 2011 12:48pm #UserID: 4801 Posts: 68 View All John42's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nick says... Hey M Nash MT refers to the pot type, in this case it means Mega Tube http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/Plant-Pot-Size.html#Adv) :) | About the Author Nick T Altona, VIC 13th November 2011 3:53pm #UserID: 2663 Posts: 727 View All Nick T's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... In the far north of New Zealand, the jaboticaba has up to 6 crops per year. A single cut around the branches with secateurs-without removing any bark- brings on flowering above the cut.Seeds of fast bearing hybrids can be bought from Fruitlovers in Hawaii. They can bear at 3 years old. | About the Author 13th November 2011 8:51pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Doug says... I have a m.cauliflora that I think I bought from PR some years ago. It is in a tub and I have tip pruned it so it is now one and a half metres high and wide. First flowering this year has given me 6 fruit that are nearly ripe, but the second flowering just finished looks like a much bigger fruit set. However, all the flowering and fruiting is on the tip growth - I have never seen flowers on the old wood. Perhaps they behave differently in Melbourne? | About the Author Doug Melbourne 20th November 2011 3:35pm #UserID: 5091 Posts: 22 View All Doug's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... My 2 biggest trees are currently festooned from the ground to the tips with dozens of kg's of whoppers.There is only so many you and everyone you know can eat.My large leafed one had its first fruit also and they were huge and a bit furry on the skin.Once they reach 2m or so they seem to fruit madly. | About the Author Cairns 21st November 2011 10:20pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Gus they have been exquisite,extra sweet and very large, with fruit from one tree being almost seedless.The taste this time around (as I am eating them now) is somewhere between grape and starapple.My mangosteen has also put in an excellent performance in the last week with lots of very large sweet fruit | About the Author Cairns 24th November 2011 8:49pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Nice work Mike. My Jab's are much happier with the blood and bone now, thanks :) (so is the lychee et al) I find it nerve wracking keeping all my special stuff in tree sacks...eg: the Kwai Muk has filled the big sack with roots already...I don't know what I am going to do with it, if we don't move in the near future...if I keep 'sacking' it up I am going to need a forklift to move it!? :D | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 25th November 2011 6:38pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Raz Perth 9th December 2011 6:18pm #UserID: 6045 Posts: 4 View All Raz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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brad says... tassone should have them. call Joe to check on 0419 988 344 http://www.tass1trees.com.au/fruittrees.php | About the Author Brad2 gooseberry hill 12th December 2011 12:25pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lang says... Hi Raz Picked up Jaboticaba from Joe at Tass1 about 4 years ago together with a Grumichama. Hi Gus They taste somewhat like a aromatic grape, a little of white necterine and hints of mangosteen. One or 2 small seeds in each, none in the smaller fruits. Nice, definitely worth waiting for. Unlike my grunichama, large bunch of seeds, hardly any flesh although taste nice otherwise. Is it just my plant? | About the Author lang Perth 13th December 2011 12:03am #UserID: 3568 Posts: 4 View All lang's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I have a very sweet large fruiting yellow gramichama with thick flesh.It is much better than some yellow lines and way better than the purples, like the one I chopped out.The fruit is not as sweet or desirable as jaboticaba which I have right next to it.What they have in common is a big response to fertiliser with larger sweeter and more fruit and much variation in fruit taste between trees and even seasons. | About the Author Cairns 13th December 2011 9:07pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Hi Lang I am surprised to hear that they are fruiting after only 4 years. Also very encouraging to hear you are in Perth and got your tree from Tass1 like me. Does it have a very thick trunk? I kind of assume that i will be driving a hover car and wearing a silver space suit before I see a Jab groing on my tree. | About the Author Karrinyup 15th December 2011 12:27am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author nick giancola perth wa 26th December 2011 3:31pm #UserID: 6274 Posts: 41 View All nick giancola's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Could kiss u Mike! :D My Jab's are powering along with the B&Bone now! No burnt leaf margins, with rainwater also...lovely good fungi in the pot with the sphagnum moss...no dramas! I just give them a tablespoon or so every month (cos they are in sacks) Putting out new growth constantly - no paleness in the leaves at all now, no aphid problems either. Happy Amanda! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 3rd January 2012 11:59pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Hi guys, Just back from holiday. Hi Nick Giancola, I have had one of mine growing for only aboout a year now and the other for 6 months. they seem pretty healthy. I added a bit of acidic soil and a couple of other things to keep the acidity up, which they seem to like. They seem a pretty hardy tree and i think they are really nice looking. | About the Author 4th January 2012 8:43pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi all, i have been reading reading and re-reading this thread for a while and have finally made a purchase of 4 jaboticabas from Blooming Nursery (in Jandabup). They stand at around 6 feet tall and quite slender looking. So excited! apparently they're 6-7 yrs old, so hopefully i'll get fruit sooner rather than later? :) | About the Author kim12 perth 23rd January 2012 3:43am #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jan says... Hi, I have been following this jaboticabas thread. I have planted one (northern NSW)on a southern facing slope, where it will not get a lot of water. I guess that I shall treat it as an experiment now... My question. I would like to plant more in an area that drains into a sizeable soak (small dam when really wet) - and in a lot of clay. Soooo....it gets wet, then wetter, and often squelchy sodden. But when it dries out, the clay cracks up. Do I hear happy jaboticabas? Any advice/optinion appreciated. | About the Author Jan17 Brisbane 28th January 2012 6:36pm #UserID: 6361 Posts: 2 View All Jan17's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 29th January 2012 11:41am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Hi Kim I think the thicker the trunk and branches the closer they are to fruiting. Blood and bone has also done wonders with my Jab and they have never looked healthier. Were your Jabs very pricey? I was thinking about getting one for my parents, but I think for a six footer they are around the $100 mark? | About the Author Gus8 29th January 2012 5:55pm #UserID: 6467 Posts: 44 View All Gus8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Thanks Gus and Amanda for your tips - is it safe to give them blood & bone straight away? i'm too scared to give them anything more than a tiny bit of slow release fertilizer when we put them in the ground. The trees we picked up were retailing at a bargain of $68!! but we did hear that they were being re-potted soon as they appear to be outgrowing their pots - no doubt they will increase in price to match. Amanda - they had quite a fair number when we were down there last weekend. I didn't know that they can't be imported any longer? Wow - I might have to go grab some more, they're such beautiful trees... I can't stop admiring mine. :) | About the Author kim12 perth 30th January 2012 12:34am #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... That's damn good value (for WA) Kim! Well done :) What's your soil like? what suburb are u in? Are u in an established/shady suburb? New suburb? Sandy? Beachy? Loamy/clay? There is loads of help for your precious purchase here :) I am not sure I would plant them in this WA heat right now...? U can always re-pot into tree sacks until winter..a little bit more expense but perhaps worth it. Depends on your 'patch'? They are lovely kim - and from all accounts the fruit is worth waiting for and/or useful. I would hazard a guess that WA might not be an ideal climate perhaps...but some plants are actually worth a bit of extra work...? :) There are issues with salinity and chem fert's and also our dry/intense heat/sun. I would not plant them until this autumn at least - and then get back to this forum for advice? Maybe a level teaspoon of B&bone every 2-3 weeks and some dilute seasol every 1-2 weeks...just to keep them going for now (if u don't re-pot?) What kind of potting mix are they in? Is it cheap rubbish? Are their roots poking out of the bottom of the pot? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 30th January 2012 1:10am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... my soil is the predictable sand and builders waste - so nothing to boast about. I'm in Dianella, the older part. The four jaboticabas i mentioned are already in the ground (hedging our driveway) - hopefully they'll be ok? do you think i should get them out and into tree bags and replant in autumn? we gave them some seasol and coffee grounds and it may just be my imagination, but they seem to look a lot healthier already. We are so happy with how they look that we went and got two more! I love these trees - can't wait for the fruits, but they are absolutely stunning specimen. We also got a bit carried away and purchased a miracle fruit plant as well as a tiny hog plum tree. So excited - just have to figure out where to put the new purchases now. :) Hopefully we'll get to taste all these wonderful fruits soon. | About the Author kim12 perth 31st January 2012 6:00pm #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Lol...Kim - it sounds like u have caught the bug - welcome to the fruit tree addicts Forum! :D Well - they are in the ground and seem ok - so may as well leave them? Have a good read of this thread - Speedy and Happy Earth's at the beginning? There are lots of tips - particularly re watering. They do love lots! They also like some mulch too. They don't seem to appreciate being "pushed" too hard with fertilisers and are slow growing (so won't need over-feeding anyway) Just stick to seasol and blood and bone. They also seem to prefer a slightly acid pH 5.5 to 6.5. I have found mine are happier since I brought them down in pH. Have u checked your soil pH there? VIP! (I used to live in Dianella - I had heaps of trouble with water repellant sand :( There is also a good thread on WA Sands here too) Have fun! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 31st January 2012 6:42pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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nick giancola says... Hi fellow Sand gropers. We are in gods own country as far as being able to grow most tropical fruit trees here in the coastal belt. I have a 7 yo Jaboticaba in a large pot that should start to produce these sweet beries with in 1 to 2 years for sale contact nick.giancola@ceramictilescentre.com.au | About the Author nick giancola perth wa 31st January 2012 9:48pm #UserID: 6274 Posts: 41 View All nick giancola's Edible Fruit Trees |
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nick giancola says... Hi fellow Sand gropers. We are in gods own country as far as being able to grow most tropical fruit trees here in the coastal belt. I have a 7 yo Jaboticaba in a large pot that should start to produce these sweet beries with in 1 to 2 years for sale contact nick.giancola@ceramictilescentre.com.au | About the Author nick giancola perth wa 31st January 2012 9:48pm #UserID: 6274 Posts: 41 View All nick giancola's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 1st February 2012 1:41am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Amanda - i'm happy to report my newly planted jaboticabas seem very happy indeed (new growth everywhere). i have read the this read from top to bottom so have given them heaps of water and have mulched them quite generously. now begins the wait for fruit. hehehehe I have had a closer look at the two newer trees and can see some really thin looking roots starting to poke out the bottom of the pot - how much longer can i leave them in there (i'm still pondering whether to plant them out or repot into bigger pots)? | About the Author kim12 perth 8th February 2012 1:20am #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi kim, that's great news - well done! :) Also handy info for those of us with sandy soil too. The 2 in pots should be ok while u decide. I wouldn't leave them 6 months or anything - but a month or so won't make a huge difference. You may just need to tease the roots out if they have started to curl around the pot (or cut thru with a sharp stanley knife or such) so that they don't self-strangulate. They don't seem to have a full on vigorous root system like a mangoe or such. Gook Luck with your new plants! :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 8th February 2012 9:36am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... hey kim...if u are going to put them in the ground - then go for it :) U have done a great job with the others through some pretty hot weather? As they are sub-tropicals - maybe they are enjoying the warm weather!? :D They hated summer up here, so that's why I was a bit worried. They have likely been grown well then? Out in full sun maybe? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 10th February 2012 10:08am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... at the nursery there were two lots - one in full sun and one under filtered sun, we did pick our plants from the full sun lot as they had been exposed to our very warm summer and excepting for the few burned tips on the leaves they were still quite healthy looking - that as well as the fact they did look a bit bigger in size! :) at the planting site, we did as instructed by the nursery staff by putting a large amount of potting mix in the ground prior to planting, so i think they're happy because the roots haven't gotten to the sand as yet - do you think they will be ok when that happens? i'm just a bit paranoid now - wished we had put more potting mix in to give them a better home. :) | About the Author kim12 perth 12th February 2012 4:36pm #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Kim, they should be fine. U will need to add quality manure and top up mulch etc, as time passes - good worm activity will help mix it it around. Most of the feeder roots are closer to the surface that we realise :) In the tree sacks of my 4 plants I have a thivk layer of quite a mixed mulch of pine bark chips, leaf litter and sphagnum moss. The plants are really happy now. Maybe they are like lychees...as Mike mentioned that they seem to like a bit of a mix in their mulch too.. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 13th February 2012 8:17pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi Amanda, sadly, we don't have any worm activity at all - not yet. We got some from our neighbour but i don't think any managed to survive (haven't seen them at all when i got curious and started digging a bit to check). But hopefully with time we will get some... :) Doug - how old is your tree? i'm envious - can't wait for the day when i'll get to sample this fruit. With the blood and bone - do you apply it year round? | About the Author kim12 perth 16th February 2012 6:34pm #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Nice fruit Doug! Well done...how do your jab's handle winter in Melb? Any problems? kim, yes u can apply the b&b year round...the plants grow slowly thru winter also. I feed mine every month or two (usually every two months as I am a bit more wary as they are in pots) and also give them seasol every month. You can always start a worm farm and use the extras to innoculate your soil... :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 17th February 2012 4:59pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi Amanda, Worms farms/compost bins are on my wish list at the moment. We're in the process of giving our garden a makeover of sort, so once done, I will be shopping. :) Is it safe to give blood and bone at the same time as the seasol? i'm such a scatterbrain that i'll probably forget if i don't do it at the same time. :p | About the Author kim12 perth 18th February 2012 1:26am #UserID: 6174 Posts: 15 View All kim12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Doug says... Hi Amanda and Kim No problems so far. I am growing all the sub-tropicals in 45cm diameter tubs on the back concrete patio which is against a north-facing brick wall with laserlite (90% penetration) roofing. The really hot dry summer days have been more of a problem, but we haven't had a summer this year here in Melbourne. The jab is 6 or 7 years old and I tip prune it to about a metre in diameter. Once winter comes I move everything back close to the wall, but this summer's banana purchases from the local Bunnings are already close to the roof, so I don't know what I will do with them. I can't believe the number of people in the vicinity that are successfully growing bananas to maturity. | About the Author Doug Melbourne 21st February 2012 2:36pm #UserID: 5091 Posts: 22 View All Doug's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi kim...fussy things aren't they? They sure don't like to be pushed too hard with fertilisers. I would give them a really thorough soaking with the hose. Jab's love their water and as someone mentions - they come from a place that floods. This is handy for you - as you can give them a good flush that they will love - and also flush off some of those extra nutrients... Apart from replacing the soil (a bit drastic) that's all you can do really. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400kms north of Perth 9th April 2012 10:31am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi kim...they are starting to look like mine used too :-( Are u using bore water or tap water? Were they in full sun all day in summer? Can't remember now - did you do a pH test? (in the meantime - keep the water going to them (ie: keep the ground "moist") until the rains arrive...) Have you got any rain water..? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 11th April 2012 9:37pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... They're getting tap water as well as my bubs' bath water. Sadly no rain water at the moment - I'm hoping to buy a rain barrel when i can spare the cash.. :) pH was approx 6.7 last time we checked. I have been giving my trees a lot of the used coffee grounds, so hopefully this has helped lower the pH somewhat (??). | About the Author kim14 perth 15th April 2012 1:41am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi kim...cut the baby bathwater asap - if u are adding anything, at all, to it..? When you water them try to give them a good deep soaking every 2 days (rather than shallow watering daily - this is not good) ...this will help to wash any 'salts' out past the drip line and down past the root ball. You are safe to drench them :) Keep watering them well past the first rains...the first rains can often push salts back into the drip line, as they are not sufficient to flush. I don't know what the quality of your tap water might be - you would need to get it tested to know for certain. I had mine tested here - it cost $60 and I picked up the kit from an Irrigation shop. It was well worth it. Our tap water is very salty and very hard also :-( I can't water my jaboticabas with our tap water...(nor loquats) as it causes leaf burning. I strongly suspect our intense summer sun (Perth incl) directly on the plants all day - is far too much for these plants also. They need more shade - but just my experience so far. Other folk have mentioned the "yellows" on these plants, in relation to sun, also (in this thread maybe?) Luckily I have 50,000L rainwater tank and use rainwater only now - no leaf burning at all. I can't be sure that is your problem - but it wouldn't surprise me - especially given that Perth's water supply is diminishing - without good rains to recharge the aquifiers it might be possible that the scheme water is saltier than usual. Anyway - if you see an improvement in the new growth in spring (or well into our rainy season) then it's likely the tap water. Here is a pic of mine at their worst - before I dug them up - they had been in the ground 2 or 3 yrs at this stage and were just slowly getting worse - despite my best efforts. The other pic is them now - with only rainwater, a little blood and bone and in a shade house...
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kim says... wow Amanda, what a difference between those two pics!! hope my trees will one day look just as healthy as yours... fingers crossed. the only thing i use is Aveeno for bubs, so nothing too damaging...? i also use this water on my blueberries and half are pushing lots of new growth while the other half are looking a little sad.. don't know why?? i'll probably try adding some vinegar to the bath water and see if that helps a bit - what do you think? thanks for the advice re the deep watering - i've started to do so, now to wait and see if things will improve... there's always some new growth on my jabos, so maybe things are not quite that bad...??? some newer growth looks quite healthy-ish, some leaves are full sized with no sign of burn on the tips/edges... gives me hope that things are getting better. | About the Author kim14 perth 22nd April 2012 2:28am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Kim...they do grow quite slowly - but when they are happy they seem to pick up the pace quite noticably. Personally - I wouldn't use any grey water on them at all, it's not worth any damage to them. Different plants have different tolerances to salts etc..bluberries are a very different kettle of fish..(there is a huge thread on blueberries - maybe post a pic there of your sick ones?) Even if my jab's get too dry in their tree sacks they then develop marginal leaf burn (only a little) they are very touchy. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 10:43am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Hi Denise, I'd love to get those seeds from Oscar, but i dont think we can get them with restrictions from myrtle rust outbreaks causing the rather knee jerk reaction of stopping myrtaceous seeds entering the country. Are you in nz? Those are the hybrid red jabots that can fruit in 2-3years, arent they? | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 22nd April 2012 12:28pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... The regular ones are pretty good and super productive.My large leafed one fruited just once and they were excellent with a different but similar flavour.My yellows refuse to set fruit as I may be too warm but my brother's one did and he said they were tangy and nice but totally different in taste.He said they were almost as good by his taste. | About the Author Mike29 Cairns 22nd April 2012 1:03pm #UserID: 6877 Posts: 2 View All Mike29's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... There are lots of different jaboticabas. Denise's I believe is the 'red' hybrid. Slightly smaller reddish brown fruit. All have similar taste except for the really different species - yellow jab, white jab, blue jab etc. The main feature of the hybrid is that it supposedly fruits in 1/4 of the time it would take the other true jabs. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 22nd April 2012 1:25pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I wonder why the hybrids aren't available here? When a tree takes so long to fruit you would assume that the shops would go straight for the hybrids and forget about the regualar trees if the fruit are almost the same. I just bought another regular small leaf that is about 6'5". I am hoping such a a large tree may fruit a little sooner. | About the Author gus innaloo 22nd April 2012 5:27pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Gus it is frustrating that with so many fruit types only the poorer and older types are available in Australia.It has me baffled why this is the case and why people don't bring in the good types and make a killing.I am not saying that is the case with jaboticabas. About 18 years ago there were a number of large, old jaboticabas of both large and small leafed types.I always filled a bucket with fruiut of the large leafed in preference and I don't recall why I preferred them at the time. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 5:40pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... In spite of many of the tropical fruits being around for decades those like jaboticabas,rambutans,jackfruit and mangosteen are pretty rare.Most yards have no natives or fruit trees but palms like golden cane,ixoras,yellow allanda,hibiscus,frangipani and mother-in-law tongues are popular. Many older folk have vegie gardens and old time fruit trees like citrus,carambola,granadilla,paw paws,passionfruit,mangoes and sugar apples.The population has tripled to about 150 000 in 25 years or so and most people come from Briz,Sydney,Melbourne and Adelaide so might be less familiar with growing tropical fruit.People sure buy lots of tropical fruit at the markets. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 6:16pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... So true Mike...but I also find it amazing when a very young checkout operator has to ask me what the english spinach is...?? :-O Lol..god knows what they'd make of jaboticaba..!? ;-) I also wonder if people have been dissapointed by their initial impressions of some tropical fruits...especially as you mention that many of our varieties can be sub-standard? It can do a lot of damage to a fruits reputation when folk just poke seeds in a pot so they can make a buck at the markets selling the plants (and/or the fruit) do u think..? I am having maybe my 6th go at Durian....(just to make sure that I have tried different types) before I decide it's not for me...I can see why others really like it though (I can't handle that underlying "onion" flavour I keep getting..? anyway - off topic there) Not all rambutans are great either...I could take or leave them to be honest - in favour of lychee (which is pretty reliably a good fruit..) especially if I am paying up to $20/kilo. The other factor, for me at least, is the wastage...Thai mangosteen are $18/kg here at present - I could afford to buy a kg as a special treat - but I won't because I know at least half a kg will be wasted pith. Gorgeous fruit but not worth it (and they likely imported that fruit for $3/kilo...grrr..) Marketing is a very crucial part of getting unusual fruits up and running...but it has to be backed by quality also. A bit all over the place there - but just thinking about the many different factors that come into play. I suspect dragon fruit and white sapote will take off (over here at least) as the first significant amount of fruits that have come onto the market are great quality - a big start. Still too expensive for everyday folk though (but I remember when avocados were a luxury too! :) Getting them recognised and enjoyed will then lead to people growing them at home (just like with avocados..) ? | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 6:49pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Don't get me started Amanda but how many people have sworn off paw paw,white sapote,dragon fruit and sapodillas because they had the common poor quality types.People have been shocked at the lovely flavour of good ones I have offered them.The same could be said for jackfruit,lychees,rambutans,passionfruit and many others.Avocadoes have an unconventional taste and took a long time to be accepted and they vary a bit in quality also.Durian is complex and unconventional and a fresh good quality one doesn't need a 'cultured palate' to be enjoyed.There may be a hint of nutty,vanilla and onion custard but not onion flavour in some. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 7:13pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... It's fun testing some of our home grown fruits on visitors isn't it!? :) It blows me away how many folk love our Kaffir plums tho..? Sour is appreciated more often than I realised!? (I like sour too...) My 8yr eats a whole bowl of them at a time...(better than those sour lollies she reckons!?) My introduction to tropical fruits has only been through holidays in Asia, to be honest. There wasn't much about at Rusty's back when I lived there..? Lots of lovely weird leafy greens tho! Now I know them as Gai Lan, Pak Choy, perennial coriander etc...hehe... ;) We have also been very spoilt with cheap and plentiful fruit n veg for two generations now...why bother growing their own? People seem to have other priorities these days. In my grandparents days - it was about survival. I have always loved gardening and veg growing - but fruit tree growing and being interested in selections has come at my middle-age...but maybe that is because I have not owned my own land until now..? Renting is big handbrake on growing fruit trees, for many people, I feel? Just some thoughts. I would love to see folk become more interested in the provenance of their fruit. An incredible amount of work goes into breeding, selecting and then getting this produce to market in lovely condition. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 7:50pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... That is all true Amanda and I am surprised at how many people enjoy my bilimbis.People seem very interested in growing their own food once they get introduced to it. I think for some of us there is something innate that drives us to grow plants for food,keep animals and even go fishing.It isn't so much about need or saving money but it is the only and natural thing to do.Not everyone is like this. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 7:59pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... My Phalsa has an aftertaste resembling oysters. I don't know if there are wide variances in quality but mine starts off quite astringent them fades to oysters. Unfortunately for us down south frozen Durian is our only option, hence the bottom of the barrel, last of the pick strong onion flavours and I still go back for more. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 22nd April 2012 8:07pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Lol...that's funny John Mc..I keep going back too!? The creaminess of it is addictive somehow? I have only ever had frozen Durian :-( One day I hope to do a kind of gardening/fruit trip in Asia (sans brown thumb hubby... lol) like those "culinary" tours of Italy etc...? :D Maybe this could be a great business venture for someone like Rev - who is now based in Java...? Hmnnn.. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 8:26pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Dunno about the best Gus...I can't grow all things. But - people have almost never tried Acerola fruit - so when they try mine- 100% have really liked them. Such a shame they have a small flesh to seed ratio - if they could be grown bigger (like many fruit I guess) they would be a winner 4 sure. I wouldn;t bother growing them other than for the novelty value. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 8:30pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Gus most people don't like to try new fruit but it depends on the person.A simple red paw paw,abiu,gold pineapple,good SE Asian mango or good lychee seem to get positive reactions and surprises if people haven't tried them or had good ones before. Considering few enjoy durian at first it is surprising it is probably the most eagerly sought and revered of all fruit. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 8:54pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... re the Acerola Amanda, I beg to differ. Mine has a comfortable flesh to seed ratio and I wouldn't say excellent, but a subtle sweet flavour. It's been in a constant state of flower since it started which makes it an excellent producer. I bought a labelled Florida sweet from Daley's recently as a control so I'll know how my seedlings (cuttings?)compare with the named var. The Florida sweet probably won't bear fruit for at least another year so I'm waiting in anticipation. Oh, and they grow by cutting very easy. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 22nd April 2012 9:14pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi MaryT - very true, i'm always smiling from ear to ear when i spot any new growth. Why did you give your tree away? lucky friend.. :) Amanda - grey water will now go to the blueberries and tap water to the jabos. :) I did think to post a pic of the sickly blueberries, but because there is a some small growth, i'm waiting to see if the plants start improving first before wasting everyone's time.. . ;D | About the Author kim14 perth 23rd April 2012 12:43am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Kim I gave my jaboticaba away because I have limited space so it was in a pot and although it was quite healthy, never flowered or fruited or put on much growth. My friends were delighted to receive it and will care for it and help it thrive. Best of all they'll be able to put it in the ground and allow it to fullfil its full potential. It was a win-win. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 23rd April 2012 7:09am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I give my jabs the baby bath water and they love it. I've cut right back on the amount of baby products used in the bath (most are full of sodium based substances) and fertilise the jabs regularly as the amount of water going onto them can flush the goodness out of the soil. Its also a good idea to give them a good frweshwater soak every so often to try to stop the build up of any nasties in the soil. I've never been impressed by Acerola, especially when compared to grumixama or jaboticaba, panama berry, cherry of the rio grande, pitomba, even black brazilian cherries. So much so that mine went from a prime spot in the yard to the back corner, and only hangs in there for its supposed healh benefits. On the upside they transplant as easily as any tree I've known in mid summer and are near impossible to kill. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 23rd April 2012 8:52am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... BJ...your soil and climate are very different to kims...I would even be certain that your scheme water would be superior to Perths also. Kims trees are suffering (see her pic)and she will eventually lose them if she doesn't take steps to rectify the problem. I wonder what the pH of the wash product is also...? Sandy soils do not have the buffering capacity that loams and clays have, we also don't get the wonderful flushing rains that you have. kim, I garden in the same climate and sands as you - and u can see from what happened to my trees the damage that can be done. How much did these trees cost you? One of the next things that would be good for you to do is a few pH tests...try several spots and depths around the plants and get a 'feel' for what the pH is. You need it to be on the acidic side.. It's worth doing this as you have imported the soil..? One step at a time :) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 11:18am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Kim...I looked up water quality test results for your area but could only find 09/10 results which were so-so. (eg: your Average pH is 7.8 which is slightly alkaline and a bit different to what you tested?) I would suggest contacting the Water Corp and asking them to direct you to the MOST recent Quality test results for your area (the summer results are really the important one's to you) (If you "complain" about your water they may also do a "spot test" at your street (they did for me when I complained about our independent test results being over WHO limits).. ;-) The water corp can supply anyone this information at any time guys...it's no drama and is part of their Quality Assurance to you, the customer, so don't be afraid to ask, especially if you are having problems with your plants despite your best efforts... The next best thing you can do is shore up some rainwater for next summer - so that you can flush your Jab's from time to time with non-salty water. Post the water quality test results here if u get them? I will be happy to have a basic look for you.. :) I wonder if anyone else is having the same problems with their Jaboticabas in Perth...? Gardening with possible marginal water in our sands requires making some adjustments to the normal practices. Fertilising methods will be one of the biggest issues. I guess this will affect many WA folk in time - as our climate is drying and heating up...and we are not receiving the rainfall to replenish dams and aquifiers...and thus dilute out the 'nasties'... Certainly this scenario has happened here already in the Mid West...with no other possible sources of less saline water to be found...we are stuck with what we have from underground only. It's only a matter time b4 a desalination plant will have be used - jsut to make this water drinkable (let alone for the luxury of watering my plants...) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 2:33pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey...does anyone know if Jaboticabas form mycorrhizial associations with their roots? Have asked around but can't seem to find a definitive answer - and I am now curious about this in my tree sacks...(pic) I transplanted all of my sub tropicals from my orchards and into the same soil mix in their tree sacks. Only the four Jaboticabas have developed this fungus...no other plants have. All 15 mixed trees are treated exactly the same. I have tried to "introduce" it into the other tree sacks and had no luck so far - it hasn't grown in them at all. I am curious because my Jabs are so healthy now...apart from adjustments I have made to their watering etc..I am also wondering if this fungus could be a part of the success...? (as it could be feeding the trees as beneficial fungi do..?) Looking ahead I was thinking that maybe it might help to innoculate new plantings in Perth to help get them going..? Mike - have you seen anything like this in the root zone of Jab's maybe?
| About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 5:08pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda I have not seen anything published on the association in jabs in particular but would be shocked if they had no such symbiotic arrangement.Nearly all trees do but with some annuals and entire groups like brassica there is no association.Truffles are another root fungus group that don't get much air time.Mycorrhizae help fight bad fungi including phytophthora and they are really important to some trees like Nepheliums/lychees. | About the Author Mike30 Cairns 23rd April 2012 6:32pm #UserID: 6880 Posts: 11 View All Mike30's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I looked at that picture and I have seen similar cottony fungi in breaking down mulch.Most of the time it is ok and just decomposers but I wouldn't welcome it.You probably already have mycorrhizae in the roots.I would scoop it out but the mycelia could be right through it.I wonder if clay could get rid of it? | About the Author Mike30 Cairns 23rd April 2012 6:38pm #UserID: 6880 Posts: 11 View All Mike30's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... It's been in there for nearly 2yrs now Mike - the only problem it can cause is water repellancy if the sack dries out. Speedy and Rev mentioned it could be feeding on the woody material in the mix (so I'd better keep feeding it carbon maybe.. :) I am going to leave it there (no hope of getting rid of it anyway..) the plants are so happy now (see my pics above on 16th April) Maybe when I put them back into the ground things may change tho. The only way I can really find out for certain is to get a root section under the microscope (might do this) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 7:36pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... kim..in addition to the above (sorry - don't want to overload you..) Jab's like a soil pH of 5.5-6.5 (which is not far above gardenias... ;) This is a interesting reference as the climate issues and soil salinity may be similar to ours in WA...they also recommend afternoon shade for Jab's (and I agree - for Perth and north) http://www.phoenixtropicals.com/jaboticaba.html | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 7:54pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Maybe Mike....but if you check out the pics of kims plants and my plants you will see the exact same pattern developing. Tell me I am wrong? No offence but Brisbane and Cairns have very little in common with Perth. It's crazy to try and compare the Brisbane or Cairns climate, weather and soil to kim's in Perth. Crikey - you likely get less "daylight hours" just with your increased cloud cover... What do you think kim should do? | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 8:23pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I didn't look at kim's plants before and there are similarities.I think surrounding an acid preferring plant with alkali concrete could cause nutrient problems like the P,mg and some trace element balances. The climates are certainly very different especially in terms of UV,humidity and seasonality.Sometimes sunburn or nutrients deficiencies can be spotted in spite of those differences.Soils can be like that as well with sandy soils or heavy clays having similar challenges wherever they are. | About the Author Mike30 Cairns 23rd April 2012 8:42pm #UserID: 6880 Posts: 11 View All Mike30's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... If my climate were comparable to Phoenix, where I have spent a bit of time living with family, there is no way I'd even consider growing water loving plants like jaboticaba. Perhaps replacing them with pommegranates is the responsible thing to do. They make very handsome fruiting street trees and road island planitings in Phoenix. My comments about using baby bath water above were advising that it is fine to do under normal conditions. Your conditions are not what I would consider normal for a Jaboticaba. This is, after all, the Jaboticaba thread, not the growing Jaboticaba in Perth and Phoenix thread... Gus, the tree has stopped producing now, but if you are still interested next season I could easily post you some seed. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th April 2012 8:57am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... You could be right BJ - but as there are no other WA folk here who seem to be able to help then I guess Jab growing here must be fairly new....? (or everyones plants have died because they can't survive here..oops) There are subtle differences to caring for most plants in this climate...but to have to start a new thread just to deal with those issues seems a bit extreme...? Anyway - I'm sorry if I offended you. It was also a bit confusing as you stated they hated the bath water further up in this thread..? It seemed very risky for kim with newly planted trees that are already showing signs of salt and pH stress. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 24th April 2012 10:22am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I've been trying to work out why my jabs now love the bath water. In their former spot they were in a better drained position. Thier new spot, formerly that of my acreola, is constantly moist and sometimes quite wet for days/weeks. They are constantly putting out new growth now (I say they because I have basically duo planted a small and large leaved jab for fun). I guess they enjoy the added moisture and can deal with the salt better if its spread through a more moist envirnment. I've also cut down product use in the bath, which would go a huge way to helping. If I were to grow jabs in Perth, or anywhere particularly challenging, I'd look at getting a big pot with few drainage holes, putting a big saucer under the bottom and putting some clay loam or dirt in the bottom of the pot to slow drainage even more. They love water. One person on anotehr forum even grew a young plant totally submerged for one month and it was quite happy. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th April 2012 10:45am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I agree BJ...if my tree sacks get too dry I get slight margin burning straight off...!? I use a very thick mulch of spagnum moss now (with leaves and very small twigs also) they seem to like this and the moss holds moisture and likely increases humidity for them? They have shallow roots (like a passionfruit I reckon?) that also appreciate not drying out at all kim... They do need to be kept moist at all times I realise now...this would also stop any salts from re-entering the plant. They may be more suited to our S-West climates in the long run I am thinking. Unless they can be kept shaded - and they are not a plant than can be plonked in any old soil...it needs to be an advanced, very organic loam..? (just my gut feeling from watching my guys change...) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 24th April 2012 10:56am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... I think that's very generous of you MaryT. :) I'm sure when it does fruit, you'll be one of the first to sample - i really hope it does taste like mangosteen (my favourite fruit). How old was your tree? I've got two in pots that's about 6 or 7 years old when purchased a few months ago, so i'm really hoping for fruits sometime in the near future. I've read that its possible, so i'm hoping mine will too. :D Amanda, I will definitely be re-testing the pH level in the soil, just been a bit tied up with a sick toddler. And thank you for the tip about contacting the Water Corp - i thought of that, but felt like i might've been wasting their time... :p I'll prob be calling them in the next couple of days as i'm curious to know as well.. Wow - i'm still reading all your input even as i'm typing up my response - you're a wealth of information Amanda. Greatly appreciated - thank you for sharing! :) I know what you mean about jabos loving acidity, i hope i've done enough for my two in pots (repotted yesterday) by adding about 30% peat moss. i've also mulched with a thin layer of spaghnum moss. I'll continue to give them used coffee grounds whenever i get any... do you think this is enough for them to be happy? Mike - only one side is concrete, we've put some bricks to make a sort of border to try and stop the grass from creeping over and strangling my trees. They're mulched heavily with some tree clippings. I'm a bit of a newbie so a bit scared of the more involved aspect of gardening... eg. using sulphur.. I do give them a dose of vinegar water every now and then to try and keep things acidic. | About the Author kim14 perth 30th April 2012 2:32am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... kim it is not generosity, just necessity :) My place is too small for all the plants I have and keep acquiring. Anyway these friends helped me find cuttings for someone on the forum who gave me his Daleys voucher about to expire so the favours are going around and around. Believe me I profit more than I lose. Mike and others on the forum have given me heaps of stuff. He also encourages me to make room for more viable and productive plants. And yes, I expect to see some jaboticaba if that tree ever fruits. I've had it for a couple of years. By the way for acid loving plants try giving them coffee grinds; your local coffee shop would be happy to give you bags of it. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 30th April 2012 7:36am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Lets hope this rain is helping them along kim - we should see how they look after some really good rain-soakings? :) (I have been lucky to have some great people, on this Forum, help me (and teach me too :) so what goes around - comes around kim ;) I haven't tried coffee grounds myself..but MaryT knows her stuff - so it seems to be ok..? Down the track your pH readings will let you know. I don't use Ag sulphur either...I have some but I try not to be that drastic - sands can be a bit touchy with chem fert's etc. I use pine bark chips (or pine needles better if u can get some?) to help keep my pH down - it's more long term and more gentle on the soil. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 30th April 2012 1:21pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Amanda, going back a few weeks ago you were wondering about fungus on your Jabs roots - was reading a book today on local plants and found a mention that "Myrtaceae" (amongst others) "have symbiotic fungi on their roots which enhance nutrient uptake". (from "Wild plants of Greater Brisbane- a Qld Museum Guide". page 304) I would assume this is probably true for all Myrtaceae, not just indigenous plants, but I may be wrong! Hope this helps. | About the Author VF Wongawallan 1st May 2012 5:54pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... What a beautiful tree Mike. It's loving it in the tropics hey? Just as well u cut it that way - you would have no hope otherwise!? I so hope mine do ok when we get down south. There is no frost where we are going but it can get down 3 and 4 degrees C o/night in winter... (Heaps more rain though! (hooray!) and soil + water a lot better) Does yours have any dramas with mildews or fungus in the tropics and being so dense..? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 5th May 2012 7:48pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I don't know if this will get through as the system seems to be spazzing about identity again.Yes John that is the smaller of the 2.SG humans take advantage of fruit targeting other animals for seed dispersal.Durian is one of the few primate specific fruit and that could be why it is king. | About the Author Cairns 5th May 2012 8:15pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike T says... They taste good but the colour has not yet come out.There was a chill in the air last night and that might help them colour up.By the time they are perfectly yellow/orange they can actually get dry inside and not taste as good. The 2 emperors are loaded and visitors can't make much impact on the volume yet. | About the Author Cairns 6th May 2012 11:14am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Gus,cockatoos,flying foxes,fig parrots,bandicoots,fruit moths,fruit flies,bugs and a few others cause some grief.I spread most around and it comes in pulses.I chopped 2 poorer mandarins down and still have 4.If half get eaten by people I'll be happy.If a quarter of a flush of jaboticabas get eaten I'd be happy so alot goes to waste......but so what there's plenty to spare.Sometimes there is not much. | About the Author Cairns 7th May 2012 8:21pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Gus mangosteen,jaboticaba and paw paws and bananas picked early enough are pretty safe.Oranges,guavas,hog plums and pasionfruit are the worst for pests.Cockatoos go for mandarins,oranges,passionfruit and guavas whereas flying foxes like sapodillas,ripe paw paws,guavas,bugs bite avocadoes,passionfruit,guavas,fruit moths attack oranges,mandarins,guavas and carambola. | About the Author Cairns 7th May 2012 9:47pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Mike (and ps gus below)..I am impressed u are bothering with mandarins Mike...? :) Here, for eg, I agree with Lowinski - home grown apples are 'nice' - but there are actually some pretty nice apples available in the shops and when the season is "on" they are SO cheap. I have culled my Fuji and Pink Lady. Waste of time and resources in my climate and soil, IMHO...? U can grow far better than a mandarin - so what's the attraction? Also GUS...are u on Face book? there is an excellent Perth gardening group u should join..? Let me know here and we can T-up and email address thru Correy...? :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 7th May 2012 11:33pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Amanda the volume of fruit is amazing on mandarins,they provide juice from April until october and I can just pluck when I feel like it.I considered wall to wall durian,mangosteen and longkong.I have Lowinskis book and he's not bad for the deep south but seems to have no idea north of 26 latitude. | About the Author Cairns 8th May 2012 12:01am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... It's funny how we crave for that which we do not have. I realise now that I would not swap the Group of Citrus for many other fruiting groups in this world now. A seasonal fling with mangoes, jaboticaba etc...sure. But citrus are amazing stalwarts - and thru many climate zones too - we juice them, we cook them - peel, flesh, juice, oil etc. We candy their peel, we use them in very expensive perfumes and cheap homemade ones, their essential oils, their healing abilities - their juice at brekky. An amazing and humble fruit for sure. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 8th May 2012 12:11am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Xiem says... I agree also. I don't know what my breakfast would be without a quartered navel and my homemade bitter seville marmalade (on wholeweal with sliced banana). We can thank the good people of China for cultivating citrus, but paradoxically its very difficult to get a glass of fresh orange juice for breakfast (or wholemeal bread) in a hotel there. | About the Author Diego 8th May 2012 9:09am #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees |
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GardeningAustraliaWanabee says... Oranges may have originated in China, but they hardly cultivated or domesticated (improved) them. Try the fruit from trifoliata (used as a rootstock)--definitely not pleasant. I've tried oranges in China grown in China and they are insipid. All the oranges in HK are from California or South Africa. The odd Australian Lanes Late makes it over there. | About the Author GardeningAustraliaWanabee 8th May 2012 12:37pm #UserID: 650 Posts: 9 View All GardeningAustraliaWanabee's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... "All the oranges in HK are from California or South Africa." is not quite true. Chinese tends to eat locally and seasonally so good fruit is usually snapped up rather than exported - transport and cold storage being less sophisticated and expensive. However, regional and seasonal food do come into H.K. but you won't see it in the supermarket; they usually come into the street markets and are gone in a flash. Regular/early customers usually get the lot. There was nothing my mother couldn't get - she went to the market every day at 5 a.m. and then often again in the afternoon. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 8th May 2012 3:50pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... My Jaboticabas seem to be loving it down here in Bunbury!? The bore water is giving them no problems (it's heavy on the iron) and obviously it's cooler and wetter than Geraldton ... Loads of flushes of new growth. Will see how they go in the ground here and let the WA folk know :) (cos if they don't grow this time round they will be sacked basically...) | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 18th September 2012 11:32pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... that true too denise1 - and the roots can get so hot in pots also...add some water and direct sunlight and you have a sauna in there... :-( Always keep the pot out of the sun by shading it... Jaboticabas are super fussy about what you feed them Raz - I only give mine (which are in 35L tree sacks)plain blood and bone and only about 2 tablespoons at given time - it's too easy to burn them with systhetic ferts. They like seasol and organic matter too. I have spagnum moss as a "mulch" on mine and that works well also. They like leaf litter and bits n pieces left on top too (so a nice friable and organic matter-rich soil) They will takes tonnes of water...! I try to water mine every second day here...the bags are free draining (no dishes underneath) I reckon you couldn't go wrong with leaf mould for Jab's...I will test this out - one of these days!? :) They also like an acidic soil - I have had big problems with them in just even slightly alkaline soil... around the pH 6 mark is good. Just the things I have found - but there are others with lots more knowledge around too.. | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 11th October 2012 11:55am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Doug says... I had the earliest flowering yet just over 2 weeks ago, but then last week we had a really cold day and it knocked off most of the flowers. There is some fruit set and new flowering. For the first time it is also flowering on the bare inner branches and not just on the new growth as it has in past years. | About the Author Doug Melbourne 16th October 2012 5:11pm #UserID: 5091 Posts: 22 View All Doug's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Raz says... I have been feeding the Jabo blood and bone fertiliser every 2 months, but not a lot, and seasol every month. I only water it every 3 days, but maybe I should do it more often in summer? When I brought it home (it was in a pot at the nursery) it had quite a few leaves, but most of them fell off over the next 3 months. A few were left, and now it has some new ones but not many at all. The ones that fell off looked like the photos, just dried out on the outside. Shall I cut off the parts that have no leaves? The pot is wooden, it has good drainage, and the watering is done through a drip system under the surface. It is in full sun from around 12PM until the evening, but I have not shaded the pot.
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Kim says... Amanda, I mentioned some time ago that I would chase down the water quality test results for my area? its a long time coming, but am happy to report the following: Alkalinity as CaC03 108 Aluminium 0.021 Calcium 29 Chloride 183 Conductivity (ms/m) 83 Hardness as CaCO3 109 Iron 0.1 Magnesium 8.1 Manganese 0.006 Potassium 7.1 Sodium 117 Sulphate 29 PH 7.9 how's everyone's jabos doing? most of my trees are flushing new growth right now, and I notice the new leaves are noticeably bigger than the older leaves - hope they're happy? :) | About the Author kim14 23rd April 2013 12:11am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey Kim - did the Lab give you any reference ranges (for plants) with these results - or comment on them? I left all that stuff at our old house when we sold it so no longer have the information... That's interesting about your new leaves being bigger - as that happened with mine also, when I planted them in the ground here...must be happier then!? :) Mine are also going great guns - here is a pic of my recent in-situ composting of their special spot with the blueberries...it's a very messy method to start with - but will settle down and make lovely OM rich soil that Jab's love... This is all prunings, more worms from w/farm, paperbark ripped up, and I will throw on a little manure and lucern hay soon... Not sure how much they will grow over our winter yet tho.. In this spot they are in good shade for the summer afternoon sun...I think this is important in our hot n dry WA summer's...
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Kim says... I'm not too cluey so only asked for the results of the latest quality results for my area. :) Very nice and happy jabos you've got there Amanda - you'll probably be feasting on the fruits before too long. I don't think jabos are that affected by our winters so you'll be fine. I bet they'll continue to flush through the cold! I think mine did last winter(?) can't remember too clearly (mummy brain). So much space left - are you looking to add more "exotics"? | About the Author kim14 24th April 2013 12:49pm #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Kim...I found the old email of my results...a quick comparison with yours above: yours don't look too bad actually... A little bit hard and salty - for more touchy plants - It could really be worth your while saving some rain water in a tank - to give these touchy plants a nice flush every so often in summer... I plan on adding lots more fruit trees kim! :) But only one's that are going to "pull their weight" - I have been seduced by a few of the fruit descriptions for some of these exotics and the then been really dissapointed when the fruit hasn't come anywhere near the fanfare - and/or they are not regular or reliable bearers...! Recently bought some English gooseberry and Jostaberry canes - only to now find out that the need the chill levels of likes of Pemberton! Bummer... I do have Wampees, white sapote, lychee, grumichama and star fruit...all growing beautifully down here..but - if the lychee and wampees don't lift their game in the next cupla years they may find themselves being shown the axe! Can highly recommend white sapote for Perth Kim...it's a ripper of a plant and easy to grow too... | About the Author amanda19 25th April 2013 11:28am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kim says... I know what you mean about being disappointed - against better judgement, I bought 6 blueberry plants from Bunnings and none have fruited since I took them home (they had some fruits on them at the time of purchase) Not enough chill hours(?). I think they're slowly dying :( On the contrary, the Dawsons plants have given my toddler more than enough to keep him happy. There's actually a few fruits still hanging on the three bushes. My wampees haven't done much at all - i'm actually thinking of palming them off to mum's! hehe. I would have gotten a white sapote, except all the ones I've seen available are very tall and lanky, no way I would be able to bring them home. Hubby also doesn't like the scraggly appearance. Still - if a smallish tree becomes available, i'm definitely grabbing one. If I had half your land Amanda, I would be going berserko... especially since my husband has confessed to having fallen in love with our jaboticabas. He now feels we can't have too many of those! lol. Can't wait for fruit.... I've gotten ahead of myself and have even promised to share them with a Brazilian priest I know. Just hope he doesn't have to wait too long... :) | About the Author kim14 27th April 2013 6:09pm #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Kim - I have two blueberry plants like that also - they are high chill varieties (mine Denise and Brigitta) and don't want to fruit even down here... :-( Dawsons sell the Misty and Sharpe Blue (and others now maybe?) that are the lower chill varieties - and better suited to Perth..go for them :) Wampee's are hungry plants like citrus - and do like a bit of watering..I think perhaps we underestimate the watering needs of these sub tropicals in WA...especially with our free draining sands... I'd love more trees too! but remember = more work?! lol...my family already complaining they have to go searching in the garden just to be able to talk to me..hehe.. ;-) | About the Author amanda19 28th April 2013 10:54am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey Julie - pretty annoying isn't it!? Wasted money..grrr. On the bright side - my Sharpe has heaps of buds with some flowers opening now...the Misty a bit slower...!? They are quite happy to be in the same bed as the Jaboticabas - both like lots of water, OM and acidic soils - and some shade...so far so good.. | About the Author amanda19 30th April 2013 9:22am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... http://www.rarefruit.org/AdamProgram.pdf This is a good starting point for info. for jaboticaba enthusiasts. | About the Author Cairns 12th May 2013 3:45pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... Crows have figured out they can eat the fruit on the 18 yo+ small leaf in my neighbor's patch, and that appears to be the end of the story as far as any harvest I might otherwise get goes. Rosellas eat them too when they're around, as do the king parrots. So much for them only eating seed. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 25th August 2014 5:51pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob19 says... Is anyone selling any of the "e;rarer"e; Jaboticaba/plinia varieties not available from Daleys (including red hybrid)? Despite having no flowers on any of my current plants, I am somewhat enamored with the cauliflorous nature of these plants and would like to get a few more.I'd be happy to import seeds but we all now how difficult that is.... | About the Author Rob19 WEST FOOTSCRAY,3012,VIC 6th June 2017 9:48am #UserID: 6645 Posts: 52 View All Rob19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike Tr says... There are around 2o new species in Australia which will be coming into fruit soon. The yellow, common and large leafed are the older types which are still misidentified here at species level having the original mistakes live on.Blue,escarlate,red hybrid,phitrantha,oblongata,guaquea,strigipes,cambuca,mulchi,trunciflora,white and coronata will be everywhere in a few years.Just wait a little longer. | About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 16th June 2017 3:45pm #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Farouk says... Hello Hasib, Any luck in getting some Jabuticaba fruit ? It is about that time of year that they are in flower now so start your thorough search now, they should be set in 4 weeks from now someone might have fruit already my flowers are just about set. I wouldn't mind sharing a couple of fruits although I don't have many as it's just second year fruiting around 1mtre tall, I am in Sydney though. All the best. | About the Author Farouk FAIRFIELD EAST,2165,NSW 4th October 2017 3:20pm #UserID: 8110 Posts: 206 View All Farouk's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Farouk says... Hello all, Have any of you seen a Jabuticaba that flowers off the tips of the branches rather than the trunk ? this is a couple weeks old photo the plant is now got the flowers all around it but only on the tips where the new leaves & new growth would come from. 1 of mine flowers this way & has 3 times now (it has only flowered 3 times). see below 1 that is normal & 1 abnormal ?
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