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I wonder longan tree can plant in a big pot? If yes, can it have fruit when plant in a big pot?
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Hi, Christina, just like you I'm interested to know too. I received my longan from Daleys sometime in Feb this year, and transplanted it into a huge round pot. My intention was to have it re-transplanted onto the ground sometime in late August. However, if I can have fruit from it from the pot, then I might not plant it into the ground. Is this a good idea, I wonder?
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Christina says...
Hi, I did ask the Fruit tree store and they said it can grow very well in the pot. I think they means it can have fruit when grow in the pot. I think so. I have not buy the Logan tree yet because it is very expensive 2 years old tree 290 dollar.
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tecko says...
If anyone is interested in buying a longan tree, I saw them (Kohala cultivar) on sale at the Canningvale Sunday Market (Perth) today. One stall was selling it for $49.95 and another $50.
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For some unknown reasons, the Longan Forum http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/logan-trees/) that has approx 30 post has disappeared .... and when I found it and post in that thread, it would not show up in the current forum page .....
so, I hope I could transfer some of the useful discussions in that thread over to this thread ....
Hope the moderators are cool with my actions.
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Is it possible to grow longan tree in Victoria? Is the weather an issue with this plant?

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23rd November 2008
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Tran says...
Yes, it can survive Melbourne weather and fruit too. I had one in a pot for a number of years but due to draught I did not water much and it could not survive.

I still have one seedling from a fruit I ate still OK after 5 years on the ground but very little (20 cm tall). One thing I found that fruiting started around Jan and by the time winter comes those fruits were still young so production is lost.

May be just me not looking after it very well. I would suggest having a big tree for a start may be ok.

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Debbie says...
Do you think I would be able to grow a longan tree in Geraldton? we have temperate weather, but with very strong winds at times.

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11th January 2009
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SlickMick says...
Debbie, You should be fine being about level with Brisbane. I have one that would be 30 years old.. quite a large tree, not a good bearer but a beautiful tree never the less. Wind may be a bit of a problem however and you may need to find a sunny sheltered position for it

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Fiona starts with ...
I have just purchased a longan tree and want some information on successfully growing the tree in a pot. I live in the north west which means we have two seasons - wet and dry. Does anyone have any tips eg. on pruning roots and tips if required? Can someone suggest a web site to find this information - searching the web is doing my head in!

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11th December 2008
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John says...
Look in the blog on thsi site.

Correy explains it all.

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12th December 2008
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I went to a nursery in Baskerville last year and saw they had an un-named variety of Longan tree growing in a huge wine barrell.
Recently, I visited the nursery again, and they had transplanted out the longan tree onto the ground of their property.

WA nurseries seem to stock the Kohala variety and said it is suited for the Perth climate (because they don't have or cannot get other varieties ???) .... but the quality of Kohala fruit is not as good as the Thai varieties, such as Champoo and Biew Kiew.

Please share your experience if you have grown longan trees, especially if you are in the Sydney NSW or Perth WA areas.

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Is it true that the Kohala fruit is not as good as the Champoo and Biew Kiew? I was under the impression that the Kohala is the best!! Please enlighten on the subject. About the Author
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Shaun says...
I went to a nursery in Baskerville last year and saw they had an un-named variety of Longan tree growing in a huge wine barrell.
Recently, I visited the nursery again, and they had transplanted out the longan tree onto the ground of their property.

WA nurseries seem to stock the Kohala variety and said it is suited for the Perth climate (because they don't have or cannot get other varieties ???) .... but the quality of Kohala fruit is not as good as the Thai varieties, such as Champoo and Biew Kiew.

Please share your experience if you have grown longan trees, especially if you are in the Sydney NSW or Perth WA areas.

Thanks.

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Henry says...
Is it true that the Kohala fruit is not as good as the Champoo and Biew Kiew? I was under the impression that the Kohala is the best!! Please enlighten on the subject.

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Kohala is more predictable in its fruiting habit.
However, most Asian Longan conossiers prefers the Thai varieties, especially the drier flesh varieties.
From what little I understand, Kohala's flesh is more marshy in texture, while Champoo, Biew Kiew and Haew have 'crisper' textures.

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Shaun says...
Longans were available ay Sydney's Paddy's market during the Chinese New year season.
But the varieties there were unknown .... most had been kept in coolrooms before being sold, and so the taste wasn't at the best.

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Anonymous says...
Thanks for these info.
I had only tried the dried Longan fruit, and it has a caramel flavour to it.

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19th February 2008
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Anonymous says...
Yes, I had the same problem with my LONGANS ie the fruit started to develop and then fell off. I suspect it is because the trees I have are shaded out by my lychee and jack fruits. The other thing I noted was there were red stink type bugs on the branches - they have since disappeared - could that be the reason. Any experts on Longans out there???

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19th February 2008
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Shaun says...
Has anyone grown Longan tree in Perth or WA?
Please share your experience with us.
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Looks like no one has grown longan in WA or Perth ??

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Anonymous says...
Hay if i can keep it alive and growing in SA you will to.

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Shaun says...
I saw longan fruit for sale at a fruit & vege shop at Kingsford Junction (in Sydney) today. It is $3.99 a kilogram.

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Anonymous says...
Has anyone actually seen Longan trees (named varieties) for sale in any nurseries in Perth ?

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Yes, theres a nursery in perth selling them, tass-1-trees in swan valley.. About the

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Shaun says...
Tass-1-trees in Swan Valley/Baskerville has the Longan Kohala seedlings .....
don't know if he has the named varieties as I hear he got new shipment from Daleys recently.

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BTW, my Longan Chompoo from Daleys has arrived ....
aNON brought it over to my place today !!!

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Shaun says...
I had planted my Longan tree in a large pot 2 weeks ago ....
hope it will put out new growth when the weather gets warmer.

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Shaun says...
My Longan tree had put out new flower shoots ....
how do I get it to grow more leave shoots .... can someone offer any advice, please?
Thnx.

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Tran says...
It is flowering season. If you try to have leave shots then flowers will drop.

Anyway, if that is what you like then you could either water more or give it some blood and bone but you won't get any fruit set though.

By the way, the tree will eventually grow leaves later in the year.

Good luck.

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Shaun says...
Thanks for the info, Tran.
I was told not to let the tree set flowers (or fruits) in the first year so that it will grow faster and bigger.
My tree is very small, and I grow it in a pot to miniturise / 'bonsai' it.

If the Longan tress will sprout leaf shoots later in the year, then I'll leave the flowers as they are.

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I bought my Longan tree from Wandillia (don't know if it is the right spelling) nursery in Wattle Grove about 2 years ago. It is the Kohala variety. Ever since I had it, it hasn't grown much due to poor soil and invading ground cover. At a stage, it looks like it was dying. Anyway, I dug it out of the ground 6 - 7 months ago and put it in a wine barrel with good quality Bailey Premium potting mix. It seems much happier after that.

Due to it being a big tree in nature, I transplanted it to a bigger wine barrel (I think it is a 300L half barrel) a month ago (I know it will never reach full height or even come close in the wine barrel). I could not believe the amount of roots it had put out in the past few months as compared to before digging it out of the ground.

I am now concerned that it might become root bound even in the big wine barrel. I heard that for trees in pot, you will need to change the soil and trim back the roots every 2 - 3 years from a retired nursery man. Will update on how my tree turn out.

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Hi Tran I'm interested in you comments about the longan tree what do you mean if i choose to leave shots the flowers will drop, my longan tree is flowering but at the same time all the flowers are droping, perhaps too much water? your advice will be appreciated.

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It will get very hot in the next few days leading up to the New Year 2009 .....
The extreme hot weather burned my Lychee tree last year ......
I know ppl say Longan Trees are much hardier .... but would the coming hot weather do any harm to my Longan tree?
Should the Longan tree (now planted in a pot) be moved under some kind of shade ?
All comments welcome :-)

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Why has this thread disappear from the forum?

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Shaun says...
My Chompoo Longan was doing very well, until the erratic summer weather wreak havoc on it .....
somehow, it survived the summer, and managed to put out growth of 2 new leaves (although it lost most of its leaves in the hot summer) .....
so could anyone offer some help or advice on how to look after it now that the weather is getting colder and winter has arrived?
Thanks in advance.

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Thanks for putting all the discussions on one easy find location !!
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Hi Kath, Hi Correy .....
Will you be getting anymore marcotted Longan tree stocks before the July'09 shipment?
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Shaun says...
Has anyone seen Longan trees for sale in Perth?
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amanda says...
Hi Shaun, I picked one up in Perth this weekend - can't remember if it was Wandilla nursery (Wattle grove) or Tas1 in Swan Valley (i was on a spree!) maybe give them a call first?
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Michael says...
Here's a picture of a fruiting Longan tree growing in a small pot that I came across on the net( Picture 3 ).

I also included fruiting Lychee in a small pot. I guess you can get lot's more fruits in much larger pots .

If anyone has successfully done so ( have Longans or Lychees fruited in pots in Australia ) then could they post pictures for all to see?
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Shaun says...
Thanks for your response Amanda.
What variety did you get ?
I know Tass-1-Tree has some Kohala seedling Longan ..... but I prefer a marcotted plant.

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Thanks for posting the pic, Michael .....
I noted that the 'trunk' and stem of the plants in the picture are rather thick & sturdy.
My Longan & Lychee plants got more skinny stems and trunk .....
and what a precious SOLE fruit of the Lychee-in-a-pot !!!
Cheers !!!
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amanda says...
Sorry Shaun - it's a kohala. Maybe if someone in Perth has a variety that u are after they may let U come n marcott it?

People are usually happy to share but don't want the work (understandedly) I often tell friends etc to come n pick surplus stuff here but they just can't seem 2 be bothered?
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20 year + old tree growing on the tablelands here in Qld . Unsure as to var.
I enjoy the flavour and want to grow a suitable cultivar here in the tropics .
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Shaun says...
Thnx for the pic tr .....
OMG!!! .... if it takes 20 yeard before you get fruit & crops from Longan, then there is not a hope that home gardeners will ever enjoy the fruits of their labour ;-)
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Ellen says...
Shaun

don't get disheartened, tr must have planted it from seed.

I've got mine when it was just a seedling, it took 3 years when it gave me the 1st lot of fruits .

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trikus says...
DID not say it took 20 years to fruit .
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Sorry, I misunderstood you, trikus. :-)


Are you from WA, Ellen?
And did you plant your Longan in a pot or out on the ground ?

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Ellen says...
Hi Shaun,

No, I am not from WA, I am currently in Sydney.

And I've planted my Longan in the ground when I got mine 8 yrs. ago .

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Hi - doeas anyone know roughly how long it takes a seedling grown Kohala to fruit? Are they true to type? Thanks.
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Ellen says...
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Planted it as a seedling ? Then it would take 6-7 yrs to fruit.
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amanda says...
Sorry - shld have said - it's a Daleys seedling tree - I bought it just a cupla months ago?
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Ellen says...
I don't know about Daleys' seedling tree .

But I bought mine 10 yrs ago, it was only 2 feet in height, but it was a seedling.
It didn't not fruit for me until it was 5 yrs old.
The 1st year of fruiting it didn't yield much . But in the 2nd year of fruiting was so abundant. (Over 15 Kgs.) Very nice, very aromatic and sweet.
In the 3rd yr. of fruiting, it had grown oversized and too bushy, my husband decided to trimmed it back and keeping it tidy (BIG MISTAKE!), Fruit yield for that year was only like the 1st yr.

Amanda
If you have the space/room for them to grow big, let them grow and spread its wings as it wants, then you will get more fruits, don't trim it, it take 2 yrs for a yound off shoot to mature for fruiting capability .
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amanda says...
Thanks for the info Ellen! How big is your tree?
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Ellen says...
Currently it is roughly 4 m high .
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Shaun says...
My Longan young longan plant that I got from Daleys last year, and planted in a large pot is beginning to send out new shoots again, now that the weather got warmer.
Last Spring, it did not grow much because most of the shoots turned out to be flowering buds.
I would like to know how I could encourage more stem and leafy growth this Spring, now that it is sending out new shoots.
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amanda says...
Hi Shaun - as I mentioned in the Lychee topic - maybe try the Seasol. Bear in mind that Powerfeed is much higher in Nitrogen (being fish based..good stuff tho'!) Little and often may be the key to success here - (and it will just run out of the pot otherwise? same thing happens in sandy loam too - which is just a waste of your $).

I am only learning with these sub-tropicals - but already I get the gut feeling that they don't appreciate hard core doses of fertilisers - chemical especially.

I also feel that, like most people, we all want to "give them a bit extra" to "fatten" them up!? This is a big No-No - u just end up with all sorts of problems such as burning and imbalances. I am going for the Seasol and little and often rule - I am really interested to see if it works...but so far so good! :)
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Shaun says...
Thanks for your response, Amanda.
I fed my Longan with Seasol last year, and it resulted in too many flower buds and not much growth 9or new leave shoots).
Some one actually said the excessive flower buds (and lack of leafy growth) is due to insufficient Nitrogen and too much of the other nutrients.
So, I am a little cautious with Seasol this season.
Ta !!
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Hi Shaun - again...are u removing the flower buds? Blood n bone is probably worth trying if u want to add nitrogen - it's more "gentle" than chem fert as it's slow release..
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Shaun says...
OK Amanda,
I got bome blood-n-bone in the shed ..... do I just sprinkle a light coat on the topsoil?
My Asian colleague suggested to try Powerfeed, which is a fish-based growth fertiliser ..... is that similar to the blood-n-bone stuff?
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Hi Shaun - not really - Powerfeed is a liquid thus the nutrients are available pretty much straight away - this may not be the effect you are after if you are worried about burning your sub-tropicals with too much nitrogen.

The Powerfeed w/v of npk is N 12% P 1.4% and K 10%. It is very good stuff tho' and can be diluted right down - but u still end up with those proportions at the end of the day.

Blood and bone has nitrogen and phosphate only (no potassium - which is the flower and fruit element) It is released over a period of months. Try to get some good quality manure or compost for them too - this will supply trace elements for a time. B&B is usually applied as a tight fistful sprinkled every square metre, water b4 n after (or u can lightly scratch it in if u want too)

What is your soil like and it's pH?

In the peak of summer it might be worth throwing some 50% shade cloth over the plant - it's hard for young plants when they don't have enuf canopy to shade themselves with. If it's still in a pot - it will need water nearly every day then too.

That's about all I can suggest - maybe someone else out there has more info?
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Shaun says...
Thanks for your tips, amanda.
I fed my Longan with blood & bone before it send out any new shoots ....
and you were absolutely correct !!! :-)
I got plenty of new leaf-shoots !!

Unlike my Lychee that send out flower shoots only this season, my Longan has actually grown another 2 - 3 inches taller !!
Yeeehhaaa !!!
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amanda says...
Hi Shaun - that's great! I see from mine that longon is by far a more vigorous plant and the lychee is a slowly-but-surely type (although not as slow as the jaboticabas!) This must be the clue I think - as slow growing things maybe need little and often?

Throwing lots of food at the slow ones is probably just a waste - if the tree can't take it up then it just gets flushed down into the subsoil (and ends up in our ground water). That's where B+B is great - slow release n gentle.

My jaboticabas responded beautifully to a liquid feed, liquid gypsum and trace elements recently. I don't know which one of these was these was the magic bullet - but they greened up well. I will have to experiment!
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Recently purchased and planted out a Longan tree, 3-4 weeks ago. Something has eaten all the leaves over that time. No evidence of pests on plant. Any suggestions for keeping tree alive, & stopping future growth being eaten? Cabbage dust perhaps? Any ideas welcome.
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Shaun says...
Hi Anne,
If it is young leaves on your Longan tree, then they could have been eaten by slugs and snails.
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Another stray thread of the same topic with wrong spelling
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/logan-tree/
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kathy starts with ...
I planted a logan tree about 2 or 3 yrs ago and now it has beautiful green fruits on it, they look similar to the avacado. Can you tell me about the fruit?

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anon says...
Longan not Logan .
Jeez

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Scott G says...
They turn a golden colour when ripe. They are very much like a Lychee. To me they taste similar but with a hint of mushroom or something odd like that. I like them.

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amanda says...
Just want to pop this in for any future readers - but I saw these huge longans (3) growing in Yokine (Perth), flowering madly and looking very happy...so they grow there :)
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amanda says...
Here is a beauty! It's down on the Geraldton "flats" - red dirt and higher clay content...what a difference a Location can make!?

I drive past this tree everyday - and yet I couldn't grow mine 10kms north - but in sand and higher winds...just goes to show u? :)
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Peter says...
Great tree, great picture.
I wonder if the root system is extra protected from overheating and drying out as soil is covered by the swimming pool and the sealed surface of the street?
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amanda says...
The pool is new Peter..they actually had a mangoe, loquat and 2 more rose apples in that tiny yard, until a year ago.
Awesome Vietnamese growers maybe? :) The red dirt is good stuff too.
They are very protected there though - this garden east facing. No mulch, never seen organic manure etc on the ground...? That the NW coastal Hwy..major road train traffic etc..
Surprising hey?
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Peter says...
Very surprising and encouraging. Looks like longan is very forgiving if the soil is good and when wind protected...
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amanda says...
Yes peter - and then there the pic above of the ones I saw in Perth too..no problems for them down there :)
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