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Apparo starts with ... I've wanted to get myself an apricot tree or two for some time but being a Perthite I thought it best to look into low chill varieties; the Department of Agriculture lists the Perth coastal plain as having around 300 chill hours per year. Plantnet list Perth as 500 "hours", rather hopeful I think. After tralling the net this is what I've found about chill hours for Australian apricot varieties: Blenheim - 400 hours; Fireball - 450 hours; Builda - 500 hours; Bently - 500 hours; Daley's Low-Chill Seed Grown - unknown hours I haven't been able to find anything about Divinity or Newcastle - does anyone know how many hours these need or what sort of fruit they produce? But during my research I found some American varieties that seem to be truly low chill. These include: Gold Kist - 300 hours Flavor Delight - 300 hours (technically an aprium) Cot-N-Candy - 300 hours (as above) Katy - 350 hours Does anyone know if any of these varieties are available in Australia or if they'll be released here soon? Any information about the quality of any of the Apricots mentioned would also be appreciated. | About the Author Apparo Booragoon, WA 20th November 2014 3:40am #UserID: 10861 Posts: 9 View All Apparo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Cot-n-candy is available in Australia, is distributed by Flemming's. I'm awaiting my first crop to ripen so can't say first hand anything about taste yet, but supposedly very good; it seems to be a reasonable self-pollinator so no need for a second tree. Whatever you get, just check if it needs a pollinator. Fireball does, don't know about the others you listed. | About the Author VF WONGAWALLAN,4210,QLD 20th November 2014 6:53am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
About the Author Don C Karangi 20th November 2014 8:24am #UserID: 9420 Posts: 22 View All Don C's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Apparo says... Thanks for responding everyone. It seems I'll have to look into Newcastle early - I haven't seen it at an nursery I've been to but I'll hunt around. After some more searching it looks like it only needs around 300 chill hours which is ideal. ( http://homeguides.sfgate.com/chill-requirements-apricot-trees-57693.html ) VF - I didn't know that Cot N Candy was available here. I look forward to your findings when it fruits. I have heard that its fruit is good but the tree is a little unusual because the fruit are not very sweet until they fully ripen and then they fall off the tree within a day. Some growers on Gardenweb say that they put up nets or foam below the tree to catch falling fruit and collect them in the morning. Even then they can be green and take a few days to ripen up. (see http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fruit/msg072224117454.html ) Even so that sweet apricot taste has got to be worth the trouble of an idiosyncratic tree. | About the Author Apparo Booragoon, WA 20th November 2014 8:54pm #UserID: 10861 Posts: 9 View All Apparo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... I put Cot n candy on my plumcot last year and from that twig have at least 15 fruit to try soon - lovely Apricot leaves - the fruit has a lovely red blush that is slightly furry - not smooth like a plum - that plumcot has taken 6 other plums and 3 prunes as well - cant wait to try shropshire damson - just love that name ;) | About the Author Markmelb , 20th November 2014 9:20pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Apparo Booragoon, WA 21st November 2014 1:20pm #UserID: 10861 Posts: 9 View All Apparo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Don C says... I bought a Newcastle Early from Yalca fruit trees this year. Daleys don't stock it (nor do most other places). I'm not sure that they can send to WA though, and they may not be sending stuff out again until next winter. From memory when in Booragoon, I bought the Newcastle from Dawsons on South Street. | About the Author Don C Karangi 22nd November 2014 7:43am #UserID: 9420 Posts: 22 View All Don C's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tommoz says... Cot-n-candy is not just an aprium but a white aprium. I calculated the ancestry as 84% apricot, 16% plum. Patent lists Tri-gems, Modesto apricots and Splash pluot among others as parents. Claims uniform ripening but a reported problem on forums is the fruit drop. https://www.google.com/patents/USPP17827?dq=cot+n+candy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1uNvVLyTGOLsmAWK2YCACg&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA The best low chill apricot is the Kingston Royal (allegedly), a selection of Royal/Blenheim from Kangaroo Island. I've just had no luck with grafting it so I can't report back. Peter on the forum has it though. | About the Author Tommoz Dural 22nd November 2014 12:33pm #UserID: 7219 Posts: 340 View All Tommoz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Tommoz Dural 22nd November 2014 4:01pm #UserID: 7219 Posts: 340 View All Tommoz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... It was a 2002 Flemings plumcot - their first i think and no particular name to it - even they said now wasnt a good bearer as it flowers too early for mariposa - but are Dark and sweet with slight apricot hint - darn good in jam - so the multigrafting was my best way to improve it :) | About the Author Markmelb , 22nd November 2014 4:39pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Have picked all the Cot-n-candy the last week. Fruit drop hasn't been an issue at all. Biggest problem has been ants- they love them, and start eating them as soon as they sweeten. Have also had fruit split with rain (not a problem with my peaches though). Flavor is good to really good depending on ripeness: have eaten several greenish ones which are reminiscent of plum in flavor, the few that have ripened to orange are very soft and taste like a decent apricot with a hint of something else. Looking forward to next year, but with ant barrier in place! | About the Author VF WONGAWALLAN,4210,QLD 7th December 2014 10:04pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... BJ, to be honest, I don't know. It never got below 7c this past winter, and only got to 7c maybe 15-16 nights. But chill apparently starts acummulating below 13c, and many nights were 10-12c. As a rough calculation maybe 300-350hrs tops? As for C-n-C, the chill has been revised a few times since it's release, and now it's being promoted as less than 400hrs - this seems to be true. (But I do have lower day temps than Brissie, stops negating of chill so that works in my favour.) BTW, all plants received from you so generously, are growing well. ☺ | About the Author VF WONGAWALLAN,4210,QLD 9th December 2014 6:12am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
sandy31 says... Guys i have a C-n-C,and i live in western syd, we get some 500 chill hours. The C-n-C, is only 1 yr old in ground and produces some 10-12 fruits, but i thinned them all in order to make better structure in first year. I am looking for a Pluot scion wood Does any one have any Pluot tree and willing to spare me some scion wood. I am happy to pay for the shipping. | About the Author sandy31 Quakers Hill 21st January 2015 3:46pm #UserID: 8012 Posts: 34 View All sandy31's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Chris - Im interested to see what happens this year as the grafted CC has grown very well and quite precosiously but it seems to me the spurs they fruited on have grown bigger with more buds and look like fruiting on same wood again - will take a pic in next few days and see if same as yours? | About the Author Markmelb MT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 21st June 2015 11:31pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
Waterfall says... I bought myself a cot n candy yesterday, the tag says it grows to around 4m tall/wide but I believe this is in 20 years so I'd consider it semi-dwarf at least. Planting it involved moving 2 established fruit trees but they were in less than ideal positions so it had to be done anyway. | About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 25th June 2015 11:31am #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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