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Ellen says... I just got some of "the other kind" = the one with the finished product color green one in Vietnamese it is called Suong Sam, given by a friend in the U.S But I am now looking for this one, didn't know it is so hard to find it here considering this part of the land is so vast, such a dissapointment . I guess I just have to continue using the powdery form, exported from China :-( | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 19th October 2009 8:57am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, There may be some in our tropic regions that the only people who have seen the plants would regconise the species. I have never seen them before so I can't realy tell if I come acrross one. I was looking for it for a long time but gave up after a while. Does it mean you have the 'suong sam' plant with you? | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 19th October 2009 10:05am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Nguyet The Yanang leaves = Tiliacora triandra (Suong Sam), all you have to do is rub the leaves, squashed it up in a bowl of water to 2 handful of the leaves, and strain it to prevent any of the pulp leaves bits got through, and leave it for 1 hour, it will start to coagulate, and away you go with sugar mixture and banana oil with crushed ices. But for mesona chinensis (suong sao) this one you must cooked the leaves in boiling water, until the leaves disintergrated (melt) again strain it prevent any of the pulp get through, and prepared a few of the gypsum mixture liquid, and pour out the cooked suong sao liquid into moulds and leave it for an hour, and it will coagulates for you, to enjoy . btw the climbing vines is the Suong Sam (Yanang leaves)
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Ellen says... Nguyet My friend send me 24 seeds, by the time I received it only 19 are viable. I've sown it all, but only 4 germinated. I tell you what, wait until the plant is mature enough, I'll propagate it through cutting and give you the plant. Because my friend told me of the low percentage of seed turned out I didn't believe her until I've sown all that she gave me. I'd think that around January it will be ready after propagation(that is only my estimation, but let's hope) as it takes 3 months for the seeds to germinate . Nguyet, either way, which ever come first,I'll reserve 1 for you. | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 20th October 2009 8:27am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, Thank you so much for that. I am very much appreciated. I am so excited because I have not had it for 27 years. I saw what the leaves look like from your picture but have never seen in real life. Are you interested in dua hoang kim? I have got some seeds available. Very easy to grow too. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 20th October 2009 9:36am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... yes me too, almost 30 years I have not had fresh one either only those from the can, from China hihihi. what is dua hoang kim ? is that some type of melon ? BTW, Nguyet have you ever try this ?: Rau sâm đất / Talinum botanical name: Talinum fruticosum rau sâm đất luộc hay nấu canh đều ngon, ăn hơi giống mồng tơi nhưng hông có nhớt như mồng tơi. rau sâm có nhiều vitamin A,C,Iron and Calcium My friend just gave me seeds a bit too much I think, I just sown some yesterday, still got plenty seeds left over too . If you want I can send you some . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 20th October 2009 9:46am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Dua hoang kim is a very small golden yellow melon that looks very much like yellow honey dew, sweet but very crunchy and very small with the biggest is the size of a mug. Another name is Japanese melon. I have never seen them sold in Melbourne. I would love to have some of rau sam dat seeds. I will email you my address. Many thanks. Beautiful flowers by the way. I also have la' ca^m? and la' Gai would you be interested?
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Speedy says... Hey Ellen, re. Tiliacora triandra (Bai Yanang) If you are able to get more seed , or are successful with cuttings I would really like some too if you could. It's another plant I've been searching for. For me, I of know of the Thai ways of using it and would like to grow it to have fresh. It's used to cook Nor Mai Ruak , shoots of a bamboo (Thyrsostachys siamensis) from Nth Thailand. Also used when cooking Khi-leck , leaves of Cassia siamea. I can pay or swap for them if you like. | About the Author N Vic 21st October 2009 4:57pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Hi Nguyet I just came home, & saw the package in front of my house . Thank You gosh I am sorry been on the move these past 2 days, haven't got time to the PO yet, but definitely by Monday you should receive the seeds for the other one from me . About La Gai, do I just soak it in a glass of water until it rooting, then planting ? Speedy my plants is only 2cm tall, have to wait a while for cuttings or seeds . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 22nd October 2009 3:55pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, I dont know about la' gai because I have never propagated myself (I was given the plant) so I guess you could try 1 cutting in water and the rest use hormone powder. Don't worry about the seeds you could send to me next week or the week after, not in the hurry, I understand. The la cam plants were not at their best because of Melbourne cold but will grow well when the weather gets warmer. The cuttings can strike easily in water for sure. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 22nd October 2009 6:41pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Just as a matter of interest, some other species used in Indonesia are:- 1.Mesona palustris-(Labiatae) -Cincau Hitam (Black ) 2.Premna oblongifolia-(Verbenaceae) -Cincau Perdu (shrub grass jelly ) there is often confusion around this one, some sources suggest that it is Melastoma polyanthum, which is possibly used in the same way. Even an Indonesian book about cincau (grass jelly) that I have states that it is Melastoma ,but illustrations and photos clearly show Premna oblongifolia! 3.Stephania hernandifolia (Menispermaceae) -Cincau Minyak (oil grass jelly) 4.Cyclea barbata (Menispermaceae) -Cincau Hijau (green grass jelly) Ellen and Nguyet, if I manage to locate these, I'll let you know and you can get first dibs on cuttings, divisions, seeds etc. Better to have six eyes looking than two eh? | About the Author NVic 24th October 2009 2:14pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Here's a like to see the book. I got is about 10yrs ago in Indo, now aparently out of print. http://www.bukabuku.com/browse/bookdetail/17344/aneka-tanaman-bahan-camcau.html | About the Author Anywhere 24th October 2009 2:21pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Speedy, Obviously, there are more than one edible species of grass jelly plants. My brother has tasted the grass jelly in Indonesia and he said it is very much like the one in VN and it was made out of leaves of a vine so now I don't know should I look for the vine or ground cover or small bush. Anyway, It is very interesting what you wrote. I will definitely keep an eye on these plants and will let you and Ellen know about my discovery (if any). I wonder if the book has an English version I would buy it. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 24th October 2009 4:29pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Stephania and Cyclera are both vines and the Premna is obviously a shrub. The 2 species, M.chinensis and M.palustris (may be synonyms) , mint like herbs. those and the Yanang vine plus Melastoma polyanthum ( I'll have to investigate this one a bit more, it occurs naturally in Aust), make up seven possible species. If I had a chance to have any or all, I would, as some of them possibly have different medicinal or other nutritional benefits. For example the Cyclea barbata roots contain an alkaloid Curine similar in action to tubocurarine a strong muscle relaxant used in "Arrow poisons" of Amazonia , but sourced from another species of vine from the same family. Curare was one of the first anaesthetics and still has uses in medicine today. Cyclea peltata , a close relative is used in Ayurvedic medicine for treatment of kydney stones. So look for all of them and get what you can. That's my approach to it. I could get the book photocopied. It has 62pp.but only need 25 pages for the most important stuff. If you have a friend who reads Bahasa Indonesia, they could translate recipes I guess. I saw the book along with heaps of other handy books while in Indo once and bought them , thinking I can get translated later if i need the details and that I might not get the chance to see those books again. | About the Author 24th October 2009 10:07pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Reville says... wow what a great thread! if its in any way possible may i jump on the bandwagon too like speedy im also willing to pay for plants and or postage i collect and use unusual tropical vegetables, so maybe we can trade my most recent find is Okinawan spinach (Gynura crepioides) also have plants like the vegetable fern, Talinum triangulare,bai khaprao etc etc please try me if you have any unusual asian veggies or herbs to trade at reville1@gmail.com | About the Author Rev North qld 27th October 2009 11:48am #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, I found this information that you can apply to your la' gai cuttings: "If you're trying to root the cuttings in a jar of water, simply put the willow and/or ivy into the jar. These plants produce rooting hormones as part of their own rooting and the water will soon be full of "natural" rooting hormone" Good luck | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 1st November 2009 8:43am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Hi Nguyet The cuttings of la' gai you gave me, after I received it, I put it in a cup with rooting hormone liquid, but the next day the tip of branch went dried-black, my husband thought it was the kids play thing with the plant, so he chucked it out in the rubbish. Well no Christmas present for him this year, hehehe the bugger. As for the la' ca^~m, I am confident it will take off after recovering from the shock, just a matter of time, but thanks goodness what you gave me has roots, otherwise it might have ended up like those la'gai too. | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 1st November 2009 11:33am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, Yes, I totally agree with you about the Christmas present. I am testing this method with a couple of la' gai cuttings and see if it works or not. Anyway, no matter what happens, I will send you some if it works or I will dig some rizhome or both, also with the la' Ca^m? as well if yours are not working well. Will send to you in January. Not a problem. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 1st November 2009 1:36pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... GOOD NEWS Nguyet oi My good friend from the state just gave me some more seeds of X.Xam Would you like me to send you the seeds or the plant cuttings .? The seeds I can send right away, as for the x.xAM cuttingS, that won't happen until after Jan as the plants are still too small. I was amazed at how well the X.Xam young plant could handle the summer heat. Last week we had 37 degree C, even the young shoots from my a.muricata wilted but not the baby X.Xam, and it was sitting in my poly house. Reville what is bai khaprao ? | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 5th November 2009 5:04pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen oi, Excellent! yes, I would love some of the seeds because it is much easier to send and survival rate is greater than cuttings. Many thanks for that. Much appreciated. Good to hear that they handle the heat well. BTW, bai khaprao is hung' que^' an pho?. Thai basil is that right Reville? Take your time. I will wait. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 5th November 2009 7:37pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Bai khaprao is 'sacred basil', it's a hairy leafed one. Bai Horapa is purple stemmed , Anisey scented one. I think hung'que is this one? Basils are a bit confusing, many years ago I thought I had them all sorted. Ellen, If you'd like to swap some suong sam seeds, I have some fesh Cha-om (Acacia pennata var. insuavis) seedlings I've just germinated. I picked the seeds myself about a month ago. Jujubes fsim, there is one set aside for you too, email me. | About the Author Ntn Vic 6th November 2009 1:28pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Hi Ellen, I dont have any photos thatI've taken, but here are some from the net. Cha-om is used in Thailand, Myanmar and I think Laos and Cambodia. Often, but not always, cooked with eggs. http://www.simply-thai.com/Thai-Market_Thai_Vegetables_Cha-Om.htm http://www.joysthaifood.com/2007/02/thai-food-soup-gang-som-cha-om-kai/ http://vegetableinthailand.igetweb.com/index.php?mo=3&art=133404 I also have Rau Manh Bat (Coccinia grandis) if your interested. Known in Thailand as Tamleug. Fruits edible (ike little cucumbers) and so are the young shoots. in India they're known as Tindora or Tindola and used in Sabzi or Sabji and vegetable curries. If you want one I'll start some cuttings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccinia_grandis http://www.tropicalfruitandveg.co.uk/images/tindora.jpg http://www.tropicalfruitandveg.co.uk/images/tindoraflr2.jpg | About the Author Nth Vic 6th November 2009 8:26pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Nguyet oi So sorry, went to the PO yesterday but forgotten the seeds. (That what happen when one have too many things on the DO LIST, and not enough TIME on hand). So I did picked up a couple of those priority envelopes mail, as the PO man told me those are for the next day delivery service, So I'll drop it off 1st thing Monday morning, by Tuesday you should receive it. If you're going to plant it right away . The Talinum seeds can goes straight into the ground where ever you want it to grow . But as for the X.Xam , you must soak the seeds in luke warm water 24 hrs before planting them in little pot. Just lightly covered it with soil, and make sure the condition on the pot always moist never dry out, it will spring up in 10 weeks . If you don't soak it in water when you plant it out it will take 13 weeks or longer. | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 8th November 2009 7:07am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Speedy is the coccinia grandis cutting easy to strike root ? Let's share the blessings around. On Monday I'll send the X.Xam seeds to you when I send Nguyet's out to her. If I may, then I will choose the coccinia grandis seeds instead as I am not so good with cutting if they don't already have any roots or root eyelets . I'll try some of the Chai om too . (AS I like to try new things) BTW give me your address my email is emmanuel19972000@yahoo.com | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 8th November 2009 7:14am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Nguyet oi BTW, have you ever try Lemon Basil - húng xã ? it would go great with quite a few dishes such as : bún bò Huế bún thịt nướng Bún Riêu Bún Ốc It look exactly like Rau Quế but the stem is not purple looking colored. The scent is rất thơm hương Quế and Lemon Grass The Laos, and Cambodians loves them, only a few Viets like them or known about them. If you would like to try, I'll send them in the lot . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 8th November 2009 7:22am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... No Nguyet oi it is not the same as Kinh Gioi, but better than Kinh Gioi, as Kinh Gioi is classified as one of the rau with nhiet property. OK I'll send it too. I don't have the tan giay la for canh chua yet. Is it easy to grow? Yesteday I've went to the market nho X.Xam qua bought one in a can, I've put it in the fridge. This morning I've opened it, kakakkakakak it is not X.Xam as it had been labelled, it is green jelly I think they have been prepared from agar source. I wished all this manufacturer would get sue one day for false advertising. | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 8th November 2009 12:22pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen oi, Thank for the lemon basil. ta^n gia^y la' is very easy to grow and the leaves are used for coughing treament also. I will send you some with the la' gai when the la gai ready. I know that there have been some fake SS in cans so I have not bought any in Asian shop. Fresh is the best. You will have some eventually. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 8th November 2009 12:34pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen Oi, Many thanks for the instruction of the ss, I will follow your advice when growing them. I am so excited. Sorry that you had to go backward and forward to get bags to send me. Many thanks for taking time sending those seeds to me. I am very grateful for that. BTW,tan^ da^y la is hung' chanh plectranthus amboinicus Spreng. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 8th November 2009 10:37pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen oi, Thank for the picture. I have only noticed the hung que an pho and never know that there are some good herbs out there that I have missed out on. I used to have rau rut' nau canh bun but too cold and they did not make it. Do you know that Cu au exists in Australia but they are declared weeds? | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 9th November 2009 10:24am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen oi, Cu au is a water plant called Water Caltrop and in NSW it is a weed. I have never seen sold in shop but a couple of website said so. http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/pests-weeds/weeds/profiles/water-caltrop rau rut, Rat thom when add to canh bun or canh chua. http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/cps/rde/dpi/hs.xsl/4790_8945_ENA_HTML.htm Pic 1 tia to xanh Pic 2 la gai (bare now because I removed most of the stems for propagation) pic 3 ta^n day la' Tia to xanh looks exactly the same in the photo but green another name is shiso, it is a Japanese variety. I have plenty of seeds. Leaves are much bigger.
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Ellen says... rau rút, also known as rau nhút very good for lẫu canh chua, lẫu mắm or use as rau ghèm cho mắm kho . Chị Nguyệt, I wish the QLD gov.au would give those to us down here we will help them irradicate this weed in our cuisine , hihihi How I wish I could have some of it .hihihi . I don't ever see them in the markets down here . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 9th November 2009 12:31pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Rau rut known as 'Pak kachet' in Thailand. Last time I ate that was in Thailand in 1990. I haven't seen it in Aust. But if I did find it I'd start eating it for sure! I grew Que Xa many years ago I got some seed from Thailand where it is known as 'Bai maenglak'. Beautiful lemon scent. | About the Author Nth Vic 9th November 2009 2:06pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... You girls sound as if you really know what you're talking about when it comes to Asian vegetables. I would LOVE to get my hands on seeds or plants of 1) sương sáo 2) rau khúc 3) cu au. I am longing to try them out in cooking. It's so much better when you can use fresh ingredients. If anyone has any cuttings or seeds of Suong Sam up for sale may I humbly request to buy? | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 3rd December 2009 8:19pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... hello Violet Cactus I don't sell the s.sam seeds, since I received it for free out of a very generous heart of a sis named HAmVui in the state, therefore I share them just the same . If you want, contact me on yahoo, and send me a self addressed envelope, and I'll send some to you Violet. what is rau manh bat ? Cheers | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 4th December 2009 2:19pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... 1) Does anyone know if, when growing Suong Sam in cool climates such as Melbourne, do you have to grow it in a pot and bring it indoors in the cooler weather over winter? 2) Jujube, I would like to grow a few dua hoang kim melons, some la gai leaves for making Banh it, and the beautiful la cam - will you trade or sell your seeds of these 3 if you still have any? I can be contacted on angavar (at) yahoo.com 3) I have searched everywhere to find the botanical name of la gai, but have not found it. Anyone know? | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 24th December 2009 8:29pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... By the way, Nguyet and Ellen, I can swap seeds of Đậu Bắp, hanh, cai ngot bong, cai be xanh, thi la, Rau Chua, Khổ Qua, Mướp Khía, Bầu Nậm, Bầu Hồ Lô, Rau Dền, Vấp Cá and so đũa, also plants of Rau Đắng and Rau Má in exchange for la gai, la cam and dua hoang kim. (I would also like Kinh Giới, Húng Chanh if possible.) I hope you might like some of the seeds I've mentioned. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 26th December 2009 11:00pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... yes the flowers looks similar to Thai basil, but the branch is not dark burgundy color. Does it have lemongrass scented ? The Lao's people they have a similar looking plant for lemon basil too, however the leaves are a bit longer shaped. And it is too strong scented of something else. And most often the Viet's people mistaken it for lemon basil. Personnaly I was not too keen in trying it out. Violet, the picture of lemon basil look alike plant you've posted up, is that yours ? If not and you would still like to have some seeds for the lemon basil, then I'll send you some, just got fresh batch from my garden. as for King Gioi, I don't have any stored seeds, and the plant that spreaded in my garden is still too young, usually in winter that is when the seeds would mature. But Kinh Gioi are very easy to propagate through cuttings, when you buy them at the shop, just choose are really old stalk, and soak it in a glass to water ,for a period of time, and the roots will come, then you just plant it.Remember to change water every couple of days, otherwise it will rot. Chi Nguyet still probably still on holiday. The La CAm she gave me, it had dried out and died during those heat waves days up here. | About the Author Ellen Fairfield 27th December 2009 11:54am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Ellen oi, I found the picture on the Internet. I do not have húng xã myself, but I would like to grow it and would very much appreciate some seeds, thank you! I'll send you an envelope. I have done some research and (I hope I am right) - I think that in English húng xã has many names including Lime Basil, American Basil, Hairy Basil, Hoary Basil, White Basil and Hoary Tulsi. I think maybe its Latin name is 'Ocimum americanum'. I found a web site that said "It has a nice lime flavour and is mostly eaten raw as a garnish; its fresh citrus note goes best with fish." Does that sound right to you? Thanks for the tip about growing Kinh gioi. I'll give it a try. What a pity the la cam didn't make it through the heatwave! I would love to use some to make bánh da lợn and xôi lá cẩm. Are there any seeds on my list that you would like me to send you? | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 30th December 2009 1:17am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Violet no sweat it, when your envelope arrives, I'll drop in some lemon basil, and dua hoang kim seeds for you, left over given by Chi Nguyet. I don't use lemon basil with fish dishes, I only uses it for Bun Bo Hue, Bun Rien, Bun Oc, and with Mam Tom Chua cuon banh trang. (they're to die for, hihihi) On your list, may I have seeds for so dua, Chi Nguyet gave me some, after soaking it for germination I've found there were hole through them (eaten by bugs). Cheers. BTW rau S.Sam takes almost 3 months for germination . So don't get dishearten. | About the Author Ellen Fairfield 30th December 2009 6:54am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Gina, You can easily get the SSam plant from this website in Canada and in USA too. http://www.floraexotica.ca/Vegie.htm Good luck. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 6th August 2010 6:18pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Gina my gosh you're at the center of SS woman, there is an oriental (Viet Buddhist temple in CA, one of the monk there is selling the plants,,,,not only the version i got, but also the other authentic version as well. Rev, the one in the picture from photobucket is the one growing in my backyard.,I would love to get my hands on the other hairy one though. | About the Author Ellen 10th August 2010 6:24am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Mine, I had 5 plants and 3 of them I've put in ground out in the garden, 2 i still left it in pots and in the hot house. Surprisingly, the one in pots didn't take off as much. Like the one in ground in the garden. And to my surprise, I've picked all the leaves off 1 plant, and now it had new leaves but the new leaves has shape not like before but like those in the pic above. We had a couple of frosts down here in Sydney already so far in this winter season and it is still thriving very well. | About the Author Ellen 13th August 2010 2:15am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Yes Chi Nguyet Yes, after the 1 or 2 sets of leaves been discarded, the 3 set of generation of leaves can grow very big ,3 to 4 times the size of the 1st generation of leaves. The more you take care of it with watering and give it enough nutrients (fertilizing) it can get quite hefty growths there. And it is so easy to propagate through the vine too. Just stick it in a small pot from the vine, try closer from the main plant, but don't cut the vine off from the main plant,,,and water it daily, after 3 months or so you can then cut it off from the main plant, by then it should have grow independently on it's own, no need for root hormone dusting so forth. | About the Author Ellen 16th August 2010 11:28pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Chi Nguyet oi,,,this is how it turned out I had to used 2 handful of leaves, after I washed them. I crunched them up. I think next time i'll try to grind them in the blender, then sieve them through a cheese cloth would be quicker . Then just let it sit in a bowl for 1 hour, it will coagulate into green jelly. When it set you can tell look at the rim, water has separated it. Have fun Chi Nguyet oi
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Ellen Oi! I am very jealous with you. I wish mine was as big as yours so I could pick some leaves and we can share the fun. Thanks for the recipe too. I must work harder to made my plant grow stronger so I can have atleast 2 handful of leaves. I can't wait, you make my mouth watering now. Thanks. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 27th August 2010 7:41pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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thuy says... hello all, I just found this forum, and would like to share some tips to you, In the winter I use warm water to water my plant and use clear plastic bag to make the mini green house for my plants and they grow very nicely, you can try, also pick the to leaves off if you plant have more than 3 knot leaves that way your plant will grow more leaves. Use the peatmoss to progate seeds or cutting you will sucess more always make mini green house for new seeding and cutting. | About the Author Thuy san jose,ca, usa 28th October 2010 5:37pm #UserID: 4476 Posts: 4 View All Thuy 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Roni says... Hi Uma Yes its is Aravai. I have planted all the seeds for the summer. I will save some more seeds from the beans that i will get this year probably by end of April. I will let you know once i save some seeds. I dont have any Tindora though and i am trying to get that badly . Please let me know if you find the tindora plant anywhere. Regards Roni | About the Author Roni Melbourne 10th March 2011 5:02pm #UserID: 4832 Posts: 4 View All Roni's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kim says... Hi all, I have just ordered some green grass jelly seeds from a guy who grows the vine in QLD. I can't wait to grow and make my own authentic grass jelly like the one I used to eat when I was young. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_jelly Here is the contact detail if you are interested rare.plants@yahoo.com.au I was told that this kind of seeds viability is 7 days and I am on the waiting list. | About the Author Sydney 26th April 2011 6:57pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE says... Hi Ellen, The one from the guy in QLD is the same as the one for sale on this link as jello plant http://www.floraexotica.ca/Vegie.htm He guarantees to me that is the green one. I wanted to buy from the above link but the owner said he can't sale the seeds because of the viability is only about a week. I am over the moon to get it from Australia. BTW the one you gave to me I harvest sometimes to make green jelly too. I think this one is the same that the one in VN I will get mine next week. Kim: thank you for the lead. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 10th May 2011 11:47am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, I email the guy to see if the leaves are shiny or hairy he said hairy so I have to wait for the leaves to appear. I planted mid May and I am still waiting for the seeds to sprout. BTW, I have enjoyed my ss from your plant and the good thing is they are ok in Melbourne weather. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 7th July 2011 9:14am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gina says... OMG...I didn't know you guys are still so active on here...hehehe I finally got my SSam plant in SanJose for $16/gallon. I guess I'll have to wait for a year to make my first 'homemade ssam'. I've recently read about the hairy SSam and not able to find any over here yet. I planning to look for them in October when I'm down in the Garden Grove area where most Viet lives. I didn't want to buy anything from floraexotica because their prices are way too high for me to buy and shipping is also steep. @thuy, hopefully you'll check back on this forum. Were your cuttings successful? I'm thinking of doing cuttings so I'll have a lot of ssam leaves to make ssam with. Thanks everyone for your comments ^_^ | About the Author Gina2 N.Cali,US 19th September 2011 9:44am #UserID: 5851 Posts: 1 View All Gina2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... I made this out of 6 Yanang leaves-Tiliacora triandra (Suong Sam), smooth leaf leaves a couple of days ago. It took 12 hours to start gelling and another 12 hours to fully set. It was just a trial thing, I'm guessing more leaves will maybe set quicker. I didn't have so much luck with the hairy leaf version though, maybe I didn't use as many leaves or crunch them up as much, not sure, but I'll give it another go.
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JohnMc1 says... Thanks for the tip Thao, I need all the help I can get. My friend from an Asian shop at The Entrance said to use one drop of dầu hoa bưởi, or AMYL ACETATE. I can't remember if I add it after the jelly has set, or during setting time. It smells like fingernail polish remover, I hope nothing got lost in the translation. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 18th March 2015 5:18pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sun64 says... Hi all! I got a Suong Sam cutting in November from a Texan guy in Etsy. The plant is growing slow but steady, but I would like some care advice! +What kind of fertilizer should I use and how often? +What are the temperature/humidity recommendations? +How to prune it to promote foliage growth? During the cold rainy months here in north CA, I kept it indoors in a sunny window and it grew really fast. As soon as it started getting warmer I put it in my balcony under full sun, but some leaves started turning brown, so I moved it back inside. Now it seems more stable, but it's growing quite slow compared to before. Also, it only has one stem so far. Should I worry about that? Thank you all! I am so happy I found this forum
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Aster says... Hi Ellen, its a long time since you asked for Mesona Chinesis, I contacted border security who suggested look for a similar plant in Oz already, rather than paying exorbitant prices unmarked seed species. Found one place in US charging $50 for postage to Australia for 50 Mesona Chinesis seeds Since using Plant@net app and Plant obervations at Inaturalist site. I found a similar plant that has identical flowers, leaves and high eugenol content plus healing properties and benefits. Am now testing whether it has the same flavour as mesona Chinesis. Or whether its the actual variety of platostoma palustris? Will update soon | About the Author Aster STRATHFIELD,2135,NSW 2nd February 2024 7:29pm #UserID: 42102 Posts: 1 View All Aster's Edible Fruit Trees |
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