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AusOrganicGardening starts with ...
Hi everyone, i am searching high and low for the Panache fig or tiger fig, that has variegated fruit... Dario Franzinelli at Jetto's Patch gave me leads for West Oz sellers, but need one this side of the country.. im in Geelong Victoria and im the founder of Austrlain organic Gardening . Can anyone help?
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sternus1 says...
Hi Aus,

panache is around, but chances are the people who have it won't give you any budwood/cuttings because of the secret squirrel culture.

I am currently in the business of smashing this cartel of parsimony to pieces--and if I do say so myself, business is booming. I have secured what are considered the world's top ten figs(panache isn't, incidentally--it's just pretty). Most of them aren't much more than cuttings themselves, and it will be a while before I can disperse them. But when I can, I will.

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Carl76 says...
Hi Sternus
Out of curiosity , what are the 10 top world varieties ?

thanks
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Mike Tr says...
sternus good luck with smashing the fig cartel. There seems to be a lot that hiding in the shadows with a treasured variety kinda behaviour in world of fruit trees.
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sternus1 says...
Depends who you ask, Where you're growing each type and how well that type does in that locale, and whether you prefer dark or light figs. The Lousiana university types are regarded as extremely good, as are the negronne types (several different cultivars are pushed under this title).
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Carl76 says...
That's so true. Some people place flavour and sweetness above productivity and disease resistance.
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Boris Spasky says...
There are thousands of unnamed fig varieties, that are excellent and you'll never see them in a catalogue or nursery.
The idea of chasing varieties from the USA (a minor producer) is anathema to me. They know only how to take a fig {insert any other fruit} and breed it into a sugar cube.
Home of figs is the ME/Maghreb and parts of Southern Europe. That's where all the best figs are; they don't have fancy marketing names nor are they bred in a university.
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sternus1 says...
True boris, but credit given where due.I agree with the sugar cube comment--personally I prefer complexity over sweetness in all fruits. I hear a lot of the Greek varieties are spectacular. I have many from Europe, mostly italy and spain.
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hi aus99
i have sent many dozens of fig cuttings
interstate from the rfssa and have
been to their orchard many times
for tastings and to help out with
pruning, but unfortunately as i have
posted here previousley the panachee
and blue province they have are
mislabled, didnt find this out till
my trees produced some fruit.
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Salsta says...
I'm new to growing figs and to the idea of growing them in pots and I'm keenly searching for Panache, Spanish Dessert and Black Mission figs. If anyone knows where I can get them in Victoria I'd appreciate it please.

I'd also love to hear about what the lovely European varieties are please Sternus.

I already have Black Genoa, Brown Turkey and St Dominique Violette and when they've grown enough, I'm happy to share cuttings if anyone wants them.
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sternus1 says...
I had black mission, but gave away all the cuttings I had some months ago now. Spanish dessert could be a number of varieties.
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aus99a says...
Secret Squirrel Culture - that's GOLD and so true! There's a couple of squirrels even on this forum ;)

AusOrganic, if you happen to know someone in SA, the Rare Fruit Society sells cuttings I think in July. You need someone to go in person, they will not post. I unfortunately know of no one in SA that may oblige but good luck. I wanted a Panache too but like my pal sternus1 says, it only looks nice. You may find someone to help but The Secret Squirrels have a code that's hard to break and I think they are similar to Scientologists. I have almost given up.
But still have to laugh...
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sternus1 says...
Aus,

I've given away all the black missions I had to give away, I still have one but that's staying with me :D

I usually only keep one of each type of thing I get, sometimes two, and distribute the surplus.

Who knows, I might have more soon....calymyrna gets a lot of good press too....

Jantina if you're reading this I'm striking the LSU gold I have for you up here in QLD--and that goes for you too, Mary. Haven't forgotten.

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peter3000 says...
hi aus99
yea my tree marked as panachee wasnt
verigated and has got dark coloured skin.

i think the rfssa b/mission was mislabled also.

have you had fruit from yours b/mission
any chance of some pictures of the leaves?
i have spanish dessert if anyone wants
but there is talk that it is a smyrna fig.
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sternus1 says...
I really don't understand the fuss over panache. If it wasn't variegated nobody would even talk about it.
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kim14 says...
I was under the impression they're also quite nice tasting? What about Violette de Bordeaux? I have no fig trees as yet, but hope to get some cuttings come winter.
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sternus1 says...
I'm sure they are Ok, but from all reports they aren't anything to write home about, pretty much the same as verte with prettier skin.

VDB gets rave reviews everywhere. It is the same fig as negronne, a very old french cultivar. Supposedly better than RDB.
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MaryT says...
Peter3000 I would be interested in the Spanish Dessert except as you suggested it is a Smyrna; here's what I read online:

"Ficus ‘Spanish Dessert’ is a cultivar of Ficus smyrna, the best variety of fig to grow. However this type of fig only has female flowers, and if you want fruit from it you will also need a Ficus ‘Capri’ Capri fig, whose fruit is generally inedible, but is the only variety to have both male and female flowers, and is essential for the pollination of the Smyrna varieties. Like all figs, the flowers are enclosed within the fruit, inaccessible to all normal pollen vectors like wind, bees and insects. Capri fig is the host of a specialist fig wasp, which spends most of its life cycle within this fig. The female wasps leave the Capri fig through a tiny pore at the base of the fruit. Coated in pollen the wasps search for other developing fruit to lay their eggs, and when a wasp enters the Ficus Smyrna pollination takes place. But as the long styles of the Ficus smyrna are unsuitable for laying wasp eggs it has to return to a Capri fig to do so. If fertilisation does not take place the fruit aborts and drops form (sic) the tree."
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kim14 says...
thanks for the confirmation Sternus. Hope to join the fig craze soon... I'm also offered cuttings of White Adriatic, so maybe this will be the start of a new obsession.

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sternus1 says...
white adriatic is one of the best common figs you can buy.
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kim14 says...
fantastic! hope I can be satisfied with the two and not develop a crazed longing for other varieties. ;)
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sternus1 says...
Abandon all hope of that Kim. They're like crack.
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kim14 says...
Sternus - I despair.

Very entertaining aus. :)
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peter3000 says...

hi maryt
yea ive read all that stuf to but in not so sure how acurate it is because
although most of my s/deserts are next to my mature capri figs i have a couple
others that i have isolated and they
are still producing fruit.
so if you want to try some cuttings
i can send you some.
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aus99a says...
I think you may find that 'Spanish Dessert' behaves the same as 'Desert King'. From what I have read, they both produce fruit but far more or better quality with caprification. To be honest, doesn't sound worth the space unless you can provide it but that's just my opinion. They look delicious on the Willabrand website though.
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peter3000 says...
i have dessert king, it is a sanpedro,
produces an excellent first crop but
the second crop will fall of without
caprification.
i live less than ten min. from the
willabrand orchards and was there
about a month ago but unfoertunately
didnt see their spanish desert.
by the way they only have about 12,000
trees.
can i ask where you sourced your
black mission from?
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aus99a says...
Wow, 12,000 trees..magical. I went to Leppington Fig Farm in western Sydney last month and was impressed but that is nothing compared to Willabrand. Got my Mission from a lady whose husband migrated from the US in the 70's and he brought it over. She was pulling it out for renovations and I grabbed two cuttings..one died and one is growing slowly. I have two plants from people that have gone..it's a good way to remember them. Slow grower but it's only in a small pot for now.
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peter3000 says...
are they the ones you saved from the
bulldozer about the 14-10-13?
i struck some dessert king around the
same week and they are now nearly
1 metre tall with little figs on them,
there wouldnt be to many b/missions
around so would be good to get it into a large pot.

i would be keen to see some pictures of the leaves if your able.
leaves
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aus99a says...
Took me a while to figure what you meant. No, it is not the same one, that was from a vacancy being pulled down. Luckily, I got that one also because they pulled it all out. Still have no idea what it is though as it produced no figs this summer. Most leaves have 7 lobes on that one. Will know something this year hopefully. I like figs but it's frustrating not knowing what they are. My 'Mission' is 100% genuine though. For photos, there are plenty on the net if you search. Trees are quickly going dormant in Sydney now.
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peter3000 says...
frustrating for sure especially when
a lot of figs have many multiple names.
will eagerly await those photos,
hope to see 5 plain lobes.
im still kicking myself everyday for
not getting a cutting that sternus
offered me a while back because i thought i had some but they turned out
not to be.
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vlct says...
I'd love to obtain a black cutting.
whats the fruit like aus ?
how's your B.P going peter ?
mines doing well, almost doubled. setting a lot of fruit.
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aus99a says...
Vic, you mean a black mission cutting? Sure, no problem but not ready yet. Maybe end of next season. Sorry guys, if i knew they were popular, i would have taken more cuttings. I know a lot more now fortunately. Wisdom only comes with experience.

No need for me to take photos Peter, there are plenty available on the net. But I will if I remember and get the chance.
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vlct says...
yeah mate. how's the taste ?
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aus99a says...
No idea. As I have said above, small plant and still no figs. But the owner said they were nice and gave them plenty of fruit.
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vlct says...
cool, can't wait!
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peter3000 says...
yea seen a few pictures on the net
but wanted to compare your leaves.

hi vlct, havnt looked at the bp for a
while but was growing ok last time
i saw it.
was thinking about ordering another one or two from another souce (yulca)
will ring them first to check where
they get them from.
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vlct says...
just too compare.. good idea. hope we have real mccoy..
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MaryT says...
Peter3000 the topic ran away from me; I just picked up your kind offer. I now have six varieties of figs - Black Genoa, White Adriactic, Brown Turkey, Picone, Preston Prolific, Excel. The first four have fruited and I am running out of room so I thank you but must decline, mainly because I don't have the Capri and definitely don't have room for one. :)
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AusOrganicGardening says...
Gday and thanks for all the interesting responces, it seems when you are a fig fancier your a special breed lol.. My attempts to get hold of this fig have been fruitless [ excuse the pun :P] But have found someone from America, just have to see what customs says.
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sternus1 says...
Customs will say no, that's why it's better not to ask them in the first place.

I really don't understand why everybody has such a hard on over panache aka Jolly Tiger, if it wasn't variegated nobody would even talk about it.
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peter3000 says...
hi sternus
yea i wasnt interested in them for a
long time but changed my mind and have been chasing them for quite a while now.
should have some cuttings in winter so
if you change your mind about them
let me know.
aus/o/g if you want to leave your
email ill get in touch when the time
comes.
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MaryT says...
I think a variegated variety would add interest to the collection and may confuse predators :) peter3000 if you have a chance I would love a cutting, thanks. tng mry (one word) at yahoo dot com dot au. Will reimburse/ pay for cost of course. Happy to send anything from my garden as well.
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peter3000 says...
ok mary i have your addy and will
let you know when the time comes.
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MaryT says...
Thanks, Peter!
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naikii says...
Hey guys, what a thread to stumble upon while googling huh.

I am also after panache to add to my collection, and the elusive violette de bordeaux, which I am sure somebody has hidden away somewhere.

Black Madeira is also right up the top there.

I have a number of figs that I can take cuttings of to trade, including;

Black Genoa
White Adriatic
Italian Honey
Blue Province
Pink Jerusalem
Preston's Prolific
Yellow Excell
Brown Turkey
White Nicolina
A black fig from Crete
A couple of mystery cuttings, one I suspect may be Conadria

I have pruned all of these this season, but might be able to take some active cuttings later on, or next winter.
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vlct says...
The Jerusalem sounds nice..
Have you tried its fruit yet ?
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sternus1 says...
naikii I do have some VDB I'm rooting right now, but they won't be anything like free (will be around 100$ per rooted plant).

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peter30001 says...
Hi Sternus,
are you still sending me a col de dame noir or vdb?


naikii,
yea good ol, google, ithought everyone
already knew about this forum.
anyway it is very unlikley you will find an established capri fig anywhere
but i can send you some cuttings from my trees, should even be able to find some self air layered ones. (aaa)
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sternus1 says...
I am indeed Peter, got you covered. Not sure if you saw my message, I have a new email :

noevilstar at hush mail . me
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naikii says...
A capri fig cutting would be great, would cut a few years out of having to germinate one!

Ill keep your VDB in mind Sternus, I actually have great hope that I will have my hands on a couple of cuttings in the near future, if all goes according to plan...
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@vlct out of all my plants the Jerusalem is the only one I didnt get to try a fig from last year.. It took ages to break dormancy and then the cold hit, I have better hope for this year
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sternus1 says...
Good luck Naikii, but make sure you're actually getting the real deal. RDB looks similar and is often mislabelled as VDB.
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peter30001 says...
ok Sternus, can hardly wait.
email noted.
scince you would be the only one in the
whole of australia to have a cddn i
hope that is the one you can send.

Naikii, if you pm me your address ill
send some cuttings.
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Tom says...
Hi was wondering if anyone has experience with a zida fig, have a few cuttings.
Was hoping people may have knowledge of what it is like.
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peter30001 says...
hi tom
that should be zidi
supposed to be a smyrna fig.
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Bbbradm1 says...
does anyone have any fig plants for sale please?
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MaryT1 says...
Hi Bbbradm1 - try

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/search.php?q=figs
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Salsta says...
naikii, I'd love cuttings of Pink Jerusalem, Yellow Excell and White Nicolina if you can spare them this year.

Figs that I have that you don't list include Black Genoa, Spanish and St Dominique Violette. I also now have little Honey and Capri figs and mature Brown Turkey and Black Genoa that cuttings can be taken from.

I'm happy to trade cuttings if you like. If so, let me know.

I'd also love to find Black Madeira if anyone has one.
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Harry says...
Hi,

I would like to add a Pingo De Mel to my very modest collection of figs (VDB and Black Genoa).

There seems to be a few circulating in Australia atm. I have contacted a few members (in another online forum) but I have not received any replies (damn squirrels!).

If anyone has a spare plant or any cuttings, I'd be more than happy to buy it off you.

Thanks

harrythelarry at live dot com
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sternus1 says...
I can assure you that nobody else has real pin go de mel or vdb other than daleys.

Be careful. There's a lot of scammers out there.
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Harry says...
I think you’re right, the "VDB" I have is most likely a common fig…

I will just have to curb my impatience for now and wait until it becomes available on Daleys. I have a feeling it will be a while though, just had a look on their site and it seems that they are still in the process of seeking propagation material. Hopefully it won’t be too long!
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Carl76 says...
Here's the reply I got yesterday.

These are exciting new variety that we are trialling in the hope that it will be a success.

We don't have propagation material for these but we do have a few source plants that we are growing to create this material in the future so it would be at least a year and when they do become available they will be in short supply at first until we can build up the propagation material.
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sternus1 says...
Carl if you need updates just ask me. I'm in congress with correy several times per week.
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Carl76 says...
Thanks
Will be a year or so anyway,it'll pass quickly, hopefully.
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Harry says...
Thanks for the update Carl, looks very promising.

Sternus, expect a message or two from me some time!

Cheers
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sternus1 says...
Carl, you should email me.

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Frank.f says...
Hi guys, hopefully someone can help me out. Im after a tiger striped panache fig. I have many varieties but cant seem to get my hands on this one. Im not fussed on the cost. Thanks.
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Me&amp;u says...
I am after rare and hard to find fig tree verieties, happy to pay, cost is not an issue. If someone has any available please let me know
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Louisiana says...
I have a Panache. This Jan. or Feb. I will be doing some cuttings, & would let some go.
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DR1964 says...
Hi Naikii, Any possibility to buy cuttings?
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ann-maree says...
Ive been looking for panache and the blue fig as well as the red skin fig.
Your so right about the secret squirel society.
Found some people very mean.
Had one guy ask me how much was i willing to pay him for a small cutting.
I said i could swap or give him 10- 15 for a bit.
He said bit was 3 inches.
Then asked me for 150. I mean wtf!
Told him no.
Im very disapointed in some people to be honest.
I always share what i have
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bbbradm says...
panache are around im just getting my last lot from WA. hard to find but available and you have to get someone willing to send
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Bbbradm1 says...
New Panache babies from WA :)
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ann-maree says...
Need to know from who to buy panache from
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Danny333 says...
Hi Bbbradm1,

Congrats on the new babies! Iā€™m in Perth and wouldnā€™t mind getting a Panache to add to the collection. Did you purchase them through a nursery here, or was it a private seller?
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Bbbradm1 says...
from both sources, the wait list was 4 or 5 years!! and I bought all the ones I could
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kim14 says...
Hi Danny333

I'll give you a couple of cuttings. What's your email address? Pick up Subiaco if interested.
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Hi kim14,

Contact me at danny333 at outlook dot com dot au. Iā€™m in Riverton, pretty close by.
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GMel says...
Hi all,

Any secret squirrels out there that would be willing to share a black mission and panache cutting? Would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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Danny333 says...
Hi Kim14,

Do you still have any panache cuttings available?
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Jez says...
Hi Danny333...
If Kim14 is out, try Tass1 over in Midvale. They have a few small panacheā€™s there (had a few last weekend so call before you go incase all sold), they also have a few other varieties such as purple vigilante, brown bell, purple prince, black Sicilian, Peter good, and a couple others. Black sicilians are great, small late season tree with small fruit but very tasty. I have quite a few varieties but still adding... still small plants so wonā€™t see a great harvest for a couple more years but all good.
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Danny333 says...
Hi Jez,

Kim14 has contacted me. I thought Joe would have some at Tass1 but itā€™s a long drive for me. I bought a Purple Vigilante off him at the garden festival, so canā€™t wait to try that one out.

I also let him try my pink dragonfruit which he liked and traded me some trees for cuttings to propogate.
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Danny333 says...
Here are my new Panache cuttings kindly given to me by Kim14.

Iā€™ve decided to keep it simple and root them in water as it has worked for me in the past. Hopefully a few of them will take.
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Naikii says...
I haven't logged on here in a long time, great to see some panache floating around Australia now! Sadly I lost my collection and am rebuilding anew.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

If you cover the cuttings with plastic bag to keep moist, then the rate of successful will be much higher. Cheers
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Hi David01,

I thought about using a bag but was worried that the high humidity and lack of airflow might encourage mold. Iā€™ve wrapped a couple of the best cuttings in parafilm as insurance in case the others dry out. Maybe Iā€™ll put a couple with a bag over them and experiment a little.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

I use 50l clear plastic container (for storage) to grow all the cuttings or seedlings, which keep them moist and warm. I spray rubbing Alcohol solution 1:3 (1 Alcohol: 3 Water) if there is a sign of fungus. Cheers
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Jez says...
Iā€™ve never tried the water method but will give it a try to experiment. Previous cuttings I just scrape a knife and dip in tooting hormone. Struck 12 out of 14.
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donx2 says...
has any one got a spare pinache tiger fig cuttings to spare:( been buying online but sad to say they all rot as it come from over seas:( i do not collect i just tasted a fruit and been looking for it for awhile now. would be happy to pay for the mailing and the cuttings.
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peter30001 says...
Hi donx2
i will have rooted cuttings/trees soon,

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donx2 says...
peter30001 do you have any contact beside hotmail?.
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peter30001 says...
no hotmail is the only email i have.
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Danny333 says...
Just thought Iā€™d post an update on the Panache cuttings.

The the cuttings did nothing in water for three weeks so I removed some, dipped them in rooting hormone and placed in cups with 50/50 peat and perlite. I also placed a couple in normal potting mix outside to fend for themselves these ones got drenched with weeks of rain so I donā€™t hold much hope for them but the are still alive.

After still seeing no progress through the cups I decided to pull out the cuttings and inspect for rot.
The first one had roots.... and now it doesnā€™t because I ripped them all off in my haste trying to get it out of the cup. Some of the others had formed small bumps and many of them had put out leaves but no roots at all.

The last one that looked the healthiest was gently teased out of the pot to reveal a few small but healthy roots.

I still have a couple in water but they still havenā€™t rooted and are just pushing buds and leaves. None of the cuttings are heated so the the temperature is almost certainly a major factor in the slow progress. The cuttings Iā€™ve taken in summer show much quicker progress in water.

One downside Iā€™ve noticed with the leaves on the cuttings is that they show signs of FMV so I will have to try and quarantine them away from my FMV free figs.
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Bbbradm1 says...
Excellent work.. They are looking great !!!
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donx2 says...
danny333 i read somewhere that you have to change the water and water should be clear but if me i will change it every two days. hope it all turn out fine.
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Danny333 says...
Hi donx2,

Iā€™ve been changing the water every 2 or 3 days. Today I noticed a small root on one of the cuttings in water.

The cuttings in cups are progressing much faster since I moved them to a warmer area with 3 of the 4 cups showing roots.

Iā€™m still concerned about FMV contaminating my other 2 fig trees as the cuttings are displaying symptoms but I suppose itā€™s only a matter of time before they get it anyway as it is so prevalent in Perth.
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donx2 says...
i can see you are keen on watering it:) do not water to much because the roots tends to be weak. to much moisture it rot so quick. just an advice. hope on getting my pinache cuttings. so jealous here hope they all grow.
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Danny333 says...
Hi donx2,

I havenā€™t watered them at all since I planted them but I did make the mix a fair bit wetter than I would have liked.

The condensation on the side of the cups is due to the cold nights in my shed.

There are some garden centres here in Perth that are selling Panache, Guildford Garden Center and Tass1 Trees to name a couple. It might be worth contacting them as they might be able to supply the appropriate phytosanitary certificates so cuttings can be shipped to other states.


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Bbbradm1 says...
thats a spectacular rooting result indeed !!
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Bbbradm1 says...
my next load of Panache are ready to come home yayyy :)
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Danny333 says...
Hi Bbbradm1,

Why do you want so many Panache trees? If youā€™re importing from WA there are so many other rare varieties that are good too.

Iā€™ve attached a pic of my Panache cuttings, the warmer weather has sent them into overdrive with all of the cuttings now rooted.

I took the tape off the cups a week ago to allow a gap for more airflow and less humidity and now I have taken the top cups off completely to harden the cuttings off for separating and planting.

I have about 12 cuttings in the cups with good roots. The two cuttings I have in water have small roots but are very slow in growth and look a bit sad so they will probably be discarded as I donā€™t really need them.

I think the key factor in getting these cuttings to root is heat. They did very little until the temperature got over 22C. The cuttings in water are in an area that is still below this temperature so it would explain the slow growth.
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Yog says...
Hi All

Was wondering if anyone has the CDD


Keen on this

Thanks

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Bbbradm1 says...
whats CDD
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Yog says...
This variety is from an Italian neighbour whose house was demolished behind target Buranda. He had some beautiful figs, full of cracks and deep red inside
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Bbbradm1 says...
damn thats a shame
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Yog says...
Here it is
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Bbbradm1 says...
beautiful Are you in Brisbane?? and are you looking for this fig? I am also in Brisbane but Ive never come across this one, sorry :(
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Bbbradm1 says...
Do you have other varieties available, I'm keen to collect as many as I can find :)

I did get cutting from a man out at Tookay but most of these failed unfortunately :(
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Yog says...
No I have this fig.
It's in my pot now.

What varieties do you have
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Yog says...
Hi Dennis

What rare varieties are there in WA that you are aware of?
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Yog says...
Where is Tookay??
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Where from Gippsland are you, I am from Jindivick. Dov
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hi Bbbradm,
check out my fig list, all are still
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Tom15 says...
Hi Peter do you have cuttings as well
Interested in panache
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peter30001 says...
Hi Tom,
yes fig list is reffering to cuttings
will have a small no. of rooted
panache cuttings/trees soon.
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Bbbradm1 says...
Some stunning new figs
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Yog says...
Hi Danny

Sorry I didn't realise I called you Dennis

What very nice rare varieties do you know over there

Thanks
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Danny333 says...
Hi Yog,

Some varieties Iā€™ve seen at tass1 trees are Hasbargen brown, purple prince, purple vigilante, Jenny smith blue and St Dominique violette. There are also a whole bunch of others I canā€™t remember the names of as well as the usual common varieties like brown turkey, adriatic and black and white genoa.

Iā€™ve attached a pic of my purple vigilante. The fruit is very dark purple even when immature. Iā€™ve removed all of these fruit to encourage the tree to grow. I havenā€™t tasted purple vigilante figs yet so I canā€™t comment on their flavour.

Ps. Those are some great looking trees Bbbradm1 what types are they?
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Another update on the Panache cuttings:

I left them in the shed under the skylight and had a few warm days recently and forgot to water them. Most of them completely dried out and I hold little hope they will survive. I potted up the few survivors and they are now in garden where they will get watered with the rest of the trees. Luckily I still have a few water rooted cuttings for backup.

Iā€™m still a little worried about FMV spreading to my other figs so I keep them at opposite ends of the yard.
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Yog says...
If anyone has the ronde, let me know
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Beginner Gardener says...
Hi
I live in Perth and recently fell in love with figs. I have a white Adriatic and Genoa, brown turkey and Black Genoa, and Adams.

Would love to get other varieties. Any help will be appreciated.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Just an update on my 1-1/2 year old espaliered LSU Gold fig. Growing nicely in 45 ltr pot with heaps of fruits to boot. I'll gonna post my 1-1/2 yr old black Picone fig tree when the fruits are a little bit bigger.
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Hi fruitilicious1,

Thatā€™s a nice looking tree. Iā€™ve attached a pic of my Panache cuttings, as you can see they have pretty severe mosaic.Iā€™m keeping them on my bathroom window sill so they donā€™t contaminate my healthy fig trees.

The other pic is the fruit on my Purple Vigilante. Iā€™m very keen to try this one and hopefully it turns out to be a winner. The eyes are starting to open and they look like they are very dark red/purple inside.
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johnniesgarden says...
Hello,
I'm new to this. Am looking for Fig Panache for my mum. Anyone with rooted cuttings?

peter30001, do you still have some?

Cheers!
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Rithin says...
Hi would you like to share any cuttings?? im really looking for these figs around sydney area.
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Hi Kim 14,
I just saw the post about Panache fig from last year. Could i buy a couple cuttings when its time. I live in Karrinyup
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Lien says...
I have lots of fruit trees, but my passion are figs, I have the ā€œcommonā€ varieties,Genoa, brown turkey Adriatic blue Provence a few Italian unmamed varieties planted by my father in law many many years ago from cuttings from other Italian , also conadria fig, a fig called rolls Royce from diggers( small yet to put in ground or bigger pot) French viollete, and a tree given to me for a Deanne but turned out something quite different that my grand kids call ā€œfairy figā€ perfectly formed miniature black with red inside which is very sweet ,size of a grape (anyone know real name.)
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AusOrganicGardening says...
Gday im still searching for the panache fig, does anyone have the cuttings??? pls contact me haychstorm@hotmail,.com TIA :)
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Bbbradm1 says...
Finally got some nice little F. carica cv Panache to grow. very happy with these, that rooted in about 6 weeks and have been growing on their own for about a month :)
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Danny333 says...
Good job Bbbradm1,
Those look like nice healthy trees. Iā€™ve just potted up a couple of my own Panache trees. All of my figs have just started pushing leaves.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

How many CVs do you have in your fig collection? I now interest with fig growing in pots and still chasing for a rare one. Just harvest few Lamb Hass last week but a bit watery may be the plant still too young. How about yours. Cheers.
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Hi David01,

I only have Purple Vigilante, White Adriatic and Panache now. I had Brown Turkey and Black Genoa but gave them away. I grow all my figs in pots and they do quite well. I root prune them every three years at the end of winter.

My Lamb Hass is producing well and the fruit arenā€™t watery. Iā€™ve also grafted a heap of Hass and Reed trees for friends and family.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

The 3 you keep are excellent figs. Yes, growing fig in pots is easy to control and fruits earlier. Your Lamb Hass looks awesome. It could be my Lamb Hass not active when fruits ready to harvest in early September when Melbourne weather is still cold and most leaves dropping. See how it goes next season if I can delay the harvest until November. Cheers
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Danny333 says...
Hi David01,

I now have cuttings from an unidentified fig. The bark is very dark, almost black on some branches and the fruit is elongated. Iā€™m also unsure of what colour the mature fruit will be.

The cuttings came from a farm in an area that has the remains of a very old orchard of various fruit trees. Hopefully Iā€™ll be able to get some to root.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

Your unk fig has elongated fruit that is breba crop. The main crop will follow in March or later. The fig leaf has many shapes, the 3 most common is 5 lopes, 3 lopes and 1 lope etc. It is not easy to identify the unk fig from bark, leaf or fruit. Fruit skin can be green, yellow, brown and black etc and pulp can be ample, pink, orange red etc. However the final taste is the most important as if you like it or not. You are very lucky as there are many top figs in WA that we donā€™t have them in Vic. Cheers.
http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html
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Danny333 says...
Hi David01,

Iā€™ve got no idea what this unknown fig could be or whether itā€™s a cultivar or just a wild seedling. It could turn out to be a caprifig.

I opened up the fruit to check but they were too immature to tell. The reason got cuttings from the tree is that it looks so different to all the other figs Iā€™ve seen. The tree looks quite striking with its black trunk and branches, I wish I took a photo.

I ate some more Lamb Hass on toast this morning, the flesh is a little softer than regular Hass but not watery. They have a very rich nutty flavour.
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Iā€™ve attached a pic of a cutting of the unknown fig next to my Purple Vigilante fig to show the colour difference of the bark.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

The flesh color of your LH looks very good, mine is nothing near. I need to wait until next season to see whether it improves (I bought the graft tree from Diggers). I have few unk figs and the bark color is very dark but fruit taste is so so. There are around 4 capri figs in Australia, 3 from other states and one in WA (capri Simmons) but again you need to wait until fruit ripe to determine what its belong to. below is a few links for further info. Cheers.

http://www.davidmcminn.com/ngc/pages/nativefigs.htm
http://figs4fun.com/archive/archive021.html
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Danny333 says...
Hi David01,

Sorry to hear about your Lamb Hass. Thanks for the links they were a good read.

I potted up the up the unknown fig cuttings, hopefully the fruit will turn out ok and I wonā€™t be wasting my time.
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nicgee says...
help needed to sourse a panache fig tree
here in perth.
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Danny333 says...
Hi Nicgee,

Iā€™d be happy to supply cuttings when my trees are a little bigger if you canā€™t find any. Have you tried Tass1 Trees? Joe has them for sale sometimes.

Iā€™m chasing cuttings of St Dominique and Purple Heart if anyone in Perth has a few spare.
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nicgee says...
Hi Danny
Thank you will try Tass 1 trees.
Compared to all our friends here on the Forum, you and i are practically neighbours only 20km apart ha ha.
cheers, thanks again.
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Danny333 says...
Hi Nicgee,

Itā€™s a small world šŸ˜ Hopefully joe will have some in stock. If you go up there let us know what other varieties he has currently got, I might head up there myself soon.
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nicgee says...
Hi Danny,
Have spoken to Joe, he has some in production, should be ready late Feb.
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Hi Nicgee,

Thatā€™s good news. Joeā€™s trees are always good quality. Iā€™m going to get a St Dominique off him as soon as I get the time.
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First Panache figs forming on my cuttings.
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Karmicguide says...
Hi sternus1, are you selling figs still?
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Hi, is there any chance for cuttings of the black mission? :)

I've gotten into the craze now.
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fruitlady says...
Hi @sternus1, I'm also after a Black Mission fig cutting. Do you have any available and if so how much per cutting?

Kind regards,
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Hi fruitlady
I have a large Black mission that you are welcome to some cuttings.
zap me on nickgiancola54@gmail.com
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Hi I am in Sydney and looking for panache fig and black Tuscan fig cutting plants. If anyone have plz contact me
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Hi Sandy,
i have panache cuttings,, and should also have a panache tree on ebay in a day or so.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333 ,

How is it going with your fig collection? Do you get any new cvs? Cheers
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vnmatt says...
@sternus1 hasn't commented since 2015 and his/her email is no longer working. Anyone else here have an actual Violette de Bordeaux? Either that or a Moro de Caneva would be good.
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Danny333 says...
Gā€™day David01,

Sorry for the late reply, havenā€™t been in the garden much cause Iā€™m working 12hr shiftsšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø Still got the same varieties as before. I marcotted my purple vigilante cause I love that variety, really awsome taste. Iā€™ll probably take a cutting or two of the panache in another month or so.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

You are very lucky as we are in state wide lockdown until all cases are under control. Sound like your P. Vigilante is very good to excellent. unfortunate we don't get that cv in melbourne. Cheers
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Danny333 says...
Hi David,

I purchased my vigilante from Joe at Tass1 Trees. He has a lot of rare varieties and may be able to supply the phytosanitary certificates and ship interstate. Worth sending him an email if youā€™re interested in tracking down different varieties.
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David01 says...
Hi Danny333,

I got my P. Vigilante from a guy in QLD but it turns out a fake one. I checked Joe's website but he is no longer sell P. Vigilante any more. below is the products from his website. Cheers.

FIG; Adam, Black Genoa, Brown turkey, Genoa, White Adriatic
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Danny333 says...
Gā€™day David,

Itā€™s still worth flicking Joe an email cause I know he has more varieties than he advertises. Purple Vigilante is well worth having with strong berry flavours and is probably my favourite all round fig. Kinda reminds me of ā€œfruits of the forestā€ jam. Iā€™ve attached a pic of the cutting I took, it still has leaves and fruit in the middle of winter!
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James9713 says...
hi @Peter012, i Would love to buy a cutting of panache if you still have any available. cheers
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Peter012 says...
Hi James,
yes still have panachee cuttings available
for $8.00 each, can email me at growfig
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Hereā€™s a few pics of some Panache marcots I potted up this weekend. I prefer marcots over cuttings if I have access to the tree and the amount of available wood is limited as the success rate is almost 100%.
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