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Robert starts with ... Has anyone had much to do with the Pinkabelle apple tree? i have become very interested in them since seeing them on better homes and gardens and in several magazines. Are they low chill? Has anyone tasted one? if you have, how do they compare to your regular pinklady apple? Thanks. | About the Author Robert2 Gympie 21st June 2007 8:21pm #UserID: 67 Posts: 1 View All Robert2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... On the gardening show they said it is the pink lady apple...on a dwarf stock ...I grow the normal pink lady...my favourite apple and it had it's first fruit after 5 years last year...it is a strong hardy tree.The gardeners on the radio were full of praise for the Pinkabelle and they require the same conditions as the normal pink lady...I hope that helps | About the Author Melissa2 Luddenham.com 30th June 2007 8:12am #UserID: 108 Posts: 24 View All Melissa2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter Allen says... web searchs say this is pink lady on a dwarf roostock other say it s a pink lady type dwarf apple growing 2m h x 1m wide. you can graft normal Pinklady or any other apple on dwarf rootstock say M9 and it will stay small , even varieties with T3 vigour should stay under 2.4mtr. even smaller if you can get hold of some M27. These will all grow in a pot or will need a stake in very windy exposed sites. My Blenheim Orange on M9 has not been watered since the day after i planted it and produces 55kg of large apples each year, after 10 years it is still only 2mtr high. you can learn to graft and get dwarf trees at free grafting workshops in Vic see www.heritagefruits.org for locations cheers "Peter the Permie" | About the Author Peter the permie Monbulk 30th June 2007 9:15am #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... The pinkabelle for best results requires you to grow a granny smith as well. It is for temperate climates so you may be right in gympie. If you check out Daleys Apple Tree Page. you will find information on the Pinkabelle and also there is a Dwarf Pink Lady. I would say that they are very similar except the Pinkabelle has been trademarked hence it costs $34 instead of just $22.75 for the normal dwarf pink lady.
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Peter Allen says... dont go and buy a granny smith just for pollination there are hundreds of apples that will pollinate a Pink lady, one othe way is to graft one small branch of granny to the pink lady tree. you only need a small peice of scion wood, a knife and tape. do it between now and end of Aug while its dormant. | About the Author Peter the permie Monbuk .Vic 30th June 2007 6:42pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kath says... I spoke to our supplier of the Pinkabelle apples today and they tell me it will set on its own although they will produce more fruit if they are cross pollinated with either another Pinkabelle or a suitable pollinator, which is any apple that will pollinate a pink lady. I am waiting to hear back on the chill requirements for the Pinkabelle. | About the Author Kath Cawongla 5th July 2007 3:34pm #UserID: 2 Posts: 363 View All Kath's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Trevor you could come to a Heritage Fruits Group grafting day, a peice of scion will cost $1 with about 86 vars including Pink lady to get there. see www.petethepermie.com for locations throughout melb from this sunday and all aug all 1-4pm cheers peter | About the Author Peter the permie Olinda 23rd July 2007 7:29pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring says... Hi all, My name is Craig Perring and i work for PlantNet, the company that is selling the Pinkabelle apple. I am sorry that i did not see this post earlier as i could have helped a few people by the sounds of it. The first point i would like to make is that is a dwarfing tree NOT on a dwarfing rootstock as per other "dwarf varieties". It is fact on 106 rootstock which is considered to be vigourous (some are on Nothern Spie rootstock too). The apples are full size and are, and taste wise are the same as Pink lady apples. The only difference that we have found is that they crop approximately 2 weeks before a normal Pink Lady. The taste is beautiful (admittedly i am a bit bias as Pink Ladies are my favourite apple). I think the apples are tiny bit bigger too (may need glasses?), although that comes down to my own judgement. Pinkabelle is partially self fertile, but benefits from cross pollination - i.e. it will set fruit if have one tree, it will set more fruit if you have two and will set an abundance of fruit if you have a cross pollinator. There are many pollinators - most of which come in a dwarf form (i.e grafted on a dwarf stock) such as granny smith, gala varieties, red delicious, crab apple and others - as long as it is flowering at the same time as Pinkabelle. Grannies are being recommended as a good cross simply as they are a longer flowering apple than most and cover early and mid season apples (and even some later fruiting varieties). Pinkabelle is a temperate apple which equates to chilling hours as about medium chill. Pinkabelle is different to normal dwarf Pink Lady apples due to its form - as mentioned it is a dwarfing tree not on dwarfing rootstock. It is a spur bearing apple, partially self fertile, fruits approximately 2-3 weeks earlier, been proven in a pot, heavy cropper (once mature and it is being cross pollinated you can expect up to approximately 35-40kg of fruit) - the price tag being heavier does not come down being trademarked. Pinkabelle is PBRed and therefore royalties to the owners of Pinkabelle have to be paid which drives the price up. I hope this helps with some of your questions and i am happy to answer more if anyone would like more information. cheers, Craig Perring w: (02) 9838 1909
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Anonymous says... Thanks Craig for that info it does help to get the true information, being a PVR tree we wont do them at our heritage grafting days but I would like to know the Pollination number Ie. F15 as per the " book of apples" so we can help people with Pollinators when they ask, also is it a Diploid. How tall do you think it will get on MM106. cheers Pete the permie | About the Author Peter the permie Olinda 30th July 2007 7:30pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring says... Hi again, In response to Pete the Permie's comments, please see below: Pinkabelle is a diploid and any pollinator suitable for Pink Lady will work for Pinkabelle. I do not have access to the "Book of Apples", so i can not comment on the Pollination Number. (see PDF chart attached) On a MM 106 or Northern Spy rootstock Pinkabelle will get to approximately 2 metres tall. (see attached image of owner/breeders with a 7 year old field grown tree - the tree is planted on a mound, but it bascially stands at 2 mts) A few extra comments on the difference between Pinkabelle (being a naturally occuring dwarf tree) and other apple varieties grown on dwarfing rootstocks: Pinkabelle is propagated on strong rootstocks which means it will have have far less problems with pests and disease. The MM series, including Northern Spy are resistant to attacks from woolly aphids and soil pathogens and will tolerate a wider range of soil types than standard trees on dwarf stocks. Strong stocks have better drought tolerance and require less water and have no need for support. The spur growth habit of Pinkabelle on a strong rootstock means a robust compact fruitful tree that needs minimal to no pruning - unless you are trying to achieve a specific shape! As Pete has correctly pointed out - being a PBR protected variety means you can not propagate this variety under PBR laws. For more info on PBR laws you can visit this site: http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/pbr/index.shtml I hope this helps with some more of the enquiries in this forum. I would be happy to answer any further queries about Pinkabelle, so please do not hesitate to contact me on (02) 9838 1909. regards, Craig Perring PlantNet
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bodile says... Hello, I am interested in your variety show(varieties) of apples! In France, we have no pink lady on sale for paticulier. Nor Caméo. can you help me to find at you a salesman of tree and to give me the expenses of purchase of the tree and the expenses of sendings? Maybe that I can help you to find things which I possess in France and which you do not have? I am very satisfied to have read your forum! | About the Author bodile1 27th October 2007 4:47pm #UserID: 385 Posts: 3 View All bodile1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Samantha says... Hi, I'm so glad to have found this thread, and thanks to all for the great info. I bought my pinkabelle last week and it's flowering beautifully. I'm just wondering how long between flower and fruit appearing. Some of the flowers are starting to die off and I'm wondering how long before fruit will appear. | About the Author Samantha1 Sydney 3rd November 2007 7:42pm #UserID: 398 Posts: 1 View All Samantha1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring says... HI Bob, Glad you like the Pinkabelle. The company that released it is PlantNet - the reason i know is because i work for PlantNet!! We are releasing a new "donut peach" this winter so keep you eyes peeled. I am hoping Plants Plus will stock them as they did with our Pinkabelle. Take this as a scoop regarding the Donut Peach as we have not made any announcements as yet and will more than likely launch the donut peach in April, as we did with the Pinkabelle last year. It is a sweet white fleshed donut shaped peach. Very sweet. Only grows to 3m and if you really wanted to you could put it in a pot (would have to be a large pot), although we recommend it goes in the ground, however i am going to put one in large pot myself to see how it goes. It is 100% self pollinating and like Pinkabelle will only be released in limited numbers for the first year. More info to come..... I have attached the label, and as i say, take this as a first as no-one has seen this label except us and the printers! We will be updating our website soon with more information, images and of course stockists. Little note for Samantha regarding flowering - Fruit should already be visible. Fruit matures around April (ANZAC dayish). If there is no fruit do not stress as all fruit trees when young can take a season or two to fruit. Although partially self fertile Pinkabelle will do better with a cross pollinator (see Daley's website!) and increase the chance of more fruit. We can certainly help Daley's obtain (in Winter) some of the dwarf cross pollinators such as dwarf granny smiths and dwarf crab apples if they are low on stock. Hope this helps. feel free to contact me if you have any more questions. Cheers, Craig Perring PlantNet (02) 9838 1909
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Correy says... Hi Bob: 1. Regarding "full size tree to pollinate" There are many dwarf apple trees that will happily pollinate the Pinkabelle. For example Daleys recommends on the pinkabelle web-page the dwarf granny smith because it is known to flower for a long time. Also up the top of this forum page you are reading there is a pdf attachment from one of Craig's comments dated 1st August 2007 which includes an exhaustive list of pollinators. 2. Regarding being: completely non self fertile I believe that the marketing is clear that it is partially self fertile. I think it is great that although you won't get as big a crop you can still get some apples perhaps when it is older even without another apple tree in site. I think it is great to inform customers like they have: "Pinkabelle® is partially self fertile, but will benefit from cross pollination.". This is how Daleys have advertised many of our other fruit trees that are partially self pollinating as well. Most people understand what this means as I am sure you do Bob. In my opinion the pinkabelle is a very exciting new apple tree and the pictures of the huge crops on such small trees coming in is magnificent and very encouraging to see. I am so glad that the dwarf varieties are again becoming more popular so that those of us with limited space can include fruit trees in our backyard. | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 5th February 2008 12:29pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Leona says... I know what you mean Bob, apart from the Pinkabelle, all I have managed to get hold of, in the way of dwarf apple trees, are the Anna and Dorsett...and they were from Wondawest, which is now closed. I suspect it would cost a fortune to get only one or two trees sent over now because of the spraying etc. | About the Author 5th February 2008 9:07pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bob says... Apple trees have to spend 2 years in a quarantine glasshouse. Costs about 200 bucks per tree. I have asked every nursrey in Perth for dwarf trees, Olea in Manjimup, might be doing some next season then it's 2 years til they are ready to sell ( 1 year for the rootstock and 1 year for the graft to grow). Ohh, yeah you have to buy 25 trees per order miniumum, as they are wholesale only. | About the Author bob1 Perth 6th February 2008 10:03am #UserID: 487 Posts: 40 View All bob1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Leona says... Far out Bob, you sure have done your homework LOL. As far as Ballerinas go, I have three (well, now two actually). My Bolero died in this recent hot weather unfortunately but my two Maypoles are doing very well and are currently fruiting...although you are correct, they are not very nice to eat, being crab apples. The Bolero did taste quite nice though. I was worried that I would not get enough chill hours (I live near the coast) but I havent had a problem with them flowering and fruiting. | About the Author Perth 6th February 2008 10:55am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Bob & Leona, Wow, Pinkabelle must have gone to a lot of trouble to be available for sale in WA considering most other apples aren't. WA quarantine officials use this reasoning why they have strict conditions regarding apple tree quarantine: "... Western Australia is the only region free of both apple scab and codling moth.... One of our inspectors will never forget an orchard owner crying on his shoulder as they watched the orchard go up in flames." http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/content/pw/q/QFruit_DLsheet.pdf If you are passionate about this it might be best to contact W.A Quarantine with your concerns or even your local member of parliment to get the laws relaxed for backyard orchardists like yourself. | About the Author 6th February 2008 11:25am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... I would be interested to know the finer details of how the pinkabelle apple tree was developed if you knew? | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 6th February 2008 5:39pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bob says... As far as I know it was not developed but found in an orchard by a smart orchardist who noticed the stunted growth of one particular plant. Nearly 100 percent of trees are on MM106 so the difference would have been noticeable. I think the smart bit was recognising it as a bud sport and not a sick tree needing pulling out. Bob PS I helped Cripps breed the original pink lady and Sundowner at Stoneville RS. | About the Author Perth 8th February 2008 9:07am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... We bought 2 pinkabelle apple trees Last year after reading an article in the paper. Cost $40ea. They were just a stick and through summer have flourished. There are 2 apples on 1 tree. Jenny of Sydney 31st October said she bought a male and female. How do you tell that especially when they are a stick and is it imperative that they be male and female when you only have 2 pinkabelles because from what I've read on here, living in Perth I'm going to have buckleys of getting a good pollinator. | About the Author Liz4 PERTH 19th February 2008 1:06am #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Thanks for that info Bob. Haven't had any luck seeing the pollination article at Woodbridge Fruit Trees website. Is it possible to talk to you by phone since we both live in Perth. If so I'm happy to put my mobile number on here and if you were willing to give me your mobile or private number, you could call me to give me your number and I would call you straight back. Thanks, Regards Liz | About the Author Liz4 Perth 27th February 2008 5:28pm #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Valerie Son says... I am so excited about this new tree and would appreciate so much some advice. I grew up in Northern California where I could literally walk out into my backyard and pick any variety of fruit. Maybe its my version of a mid-life, but I am wanting very much to go back to that lifestyle. We are looking at a piece of property where we can grow many trees (zone 7/8-north of Dallas). It has a gradual slope down one side (with a large pond). It also has a very large flatter area on top. Because pinkabelle's grow so well in this zone, I was wondering if you had any advice on where to plant a small orchard (on slope?). Where to get the best (strongest-most resistant) trees and should I have any concerns planting them alongside (or below) a peach orchard? Thank you and I am so excited to hear back!! Val val@son.org | About the Author Valerie Son McKinney Texas 29th February 2008 5:45am #UserID: 727 Posts: 1 View All Valerie Son's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Stuart says... Hi, I've seen that Granny Smith and Crab Apple are suitable pollinators for the Pinkabelle. When and how long does the Crab Apple flower for compared to the Granny Smith? We don't have a lot of room in our garden. I'd like to go with the Crab Apple just for variety but if it's flowering time is a lot less than the Granny Smith I'll probably go with the Granny Smith to maximise fruiting on the Pinkabelle. Some more questions. How long would a Pinkabelle usually take to bear fruit? What's the best climate and planting position for the Pinkabelle? I live in Brisbane. | About the Author Stuart2 Brisbane 11th March 2008 7:47pm #UserID: 763 Posts: 1 View All Stuart2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... hello sophie. first the whole needs to be about a meter square dug to about 2 inches above the root line. the loosen all that area up. deep water it let it soak place the tree in the middle and file in. Resoak the whole and do this every 3 days for 2 weeks. you can put some seasol at the begining. after 2 weeks use a fruit fertizer. never use fertilizer with a fresh planted tree. | About the Author 17th March 2008 3:05pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Libby says... I just bought 2 apple trees from Bunnings Auburn in Sydney. They are pink lady n golden delicous n they came from flemings nursery. Unfortunately, when I contacted Flemings, I was told that I need a granny smith or a red fuji for cross pollination. So does anyone know how I can get cuttings to graft them in? | About the Author Libby3 Sydney 13th April 2008 4:38pm #UserID: 869 Posts: 3 View All Libby3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Libby, As far as I know you just need to get a Granny Smith tree and plant it. I wouldn't think you need to graft. I am no expert, just learnt things on here. Bob is the expert. He'll probably tell you. He is very helpful. I also have a query for anyone who may know. Our 2 pinkabelles are in pots, one is in a bigger pot than the other and consequently is a bit bigger than the other tree but the smaller one has 2 apples on it. We are going to get some half beer barrels to plant them in. Would that be the best and can someone tell me when to transfer them. Do we need to wait till all the leaves are off? We live in Perth. Thankyou to all the people who help out people like me who don't know much about growing fruit trees. | About the Author Liz4 Perth 14th April 2008 4:49pm #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring, PlantNet says... Hi all, My name is Craig Perring and i am from PlantNet, the company that brings you Pinkabelle. Sorry about the lack of correspondence of late. I have not been blogging since January, but have not been too concerned as Bob seems to be steering the Pinkabelle ship in the right direction with regard to queries. There is a few questions that I want to answer and few comments to clarify. I have covered most topics listed here, but If i have not addressed your issue it means Bob has already correctly answered it!! * Wandilla Nursery (4th Feb post by Bob) have got it wrong regarding pollination. Pinkabelle IS partially self fertile, but will benefit from cross pollination. This means if you have one Pinkabelle you get small amounts of fruit i.e. a couple - if you have a cross pollinator (granny smith, crab apple etc) you will get an abundance of fruit compared to if you don't have a cross pollinator. Im not sure what Wandilla are basing their assumptions on. Wandilla should also be telling their clients that most fruit trees will take a few years to set their first crop so not to panic if there is no fruit in the first year. I know many people who have bought Pinkabelle's last year (would have bought a 2 year old tree) and got fruit. On trials conducted, we have averaged 9-10kg of fruit on a three year old trees - this is in an orchard where the NEAREST pollinator (a fuji in this case) is 100 metres away. In other words it is in a low pollination area. Fruit amounts will increase each year as the plant matures. The lady at Wandilla should also note to her customers that being in WA is different to other states as there is a lack of dwarf varieties - only in WA - and at no stage has our marketing even suggested that "Customers have to purchase a full size tree to pollinate Pinkabelle". All we are saying and all our marketing says is that it benefits from cross pollination. What size trees people buy is up to them! I would not call it silly marketing, i would call it unfortunate that WA does not have access to the range if trees we have in the eastern states. Apart from all else i have not had any contact from Wandilla to clarify any questions they may have had regarding Pinkabelle which is disappointing as they are mis-informing their customers. * With reagrd to pollination check out my post from 1st August 2007. There is a pollination chart there which will show you which apples are available to cross pollinate Pinkabelle's. Pinkabelle is a mid season flowering apple so there is plenty of varieties (many which do come in dwarf form)to choose from - except of course in WA, where there are limited varieties for the home gardener. Always ask your local nursery to order particular plants in for you if they are not on the shelf or you can not source them anywhere else. Many nurseries put their deciduous plant orders in now (and through the earlier months of the year) so if you want a dwarf granny, dwarf crab apple or similar now is the time to mention it to your nursery so they can get one in for you. Winter may be too late as many dwarf forms sell out from the wholesaler early in the peace. I have just checked with one of our nurseries (wholesaler) that he has 7 dwarf apple varieties (Golden delicious, Red Delicious, Red Fuji, Pink Lady all of which have sold out and Jonathon (60 left), Gala (40 left) and Granny Smith (45 left)). So to avoid disappointment get in now and reserve whatever dwarf plants you may want as these plants are becoming more popular and move through the retial nurseries fairly fast. Another good tip is if you are unsure of which pollinator to buy for your area make sure you pop into a nursery at the same time your Pinkabelle is flowering and pick a variety that is flowering at the same time! * To answer Bob's question YES - we can line up some dwarf pollinators in WA and are in the process of doing so. As you know plants do take time to propagate and grow so it is still some time away but it will happen!! Like all things in the garden, patience is a virtue! As we are able to discuss this more we will certainly post some information about it. One thing for certain for WA gardeners is you will not have to buy 25 trees from Olea Wholesale Nursery as these trees will be made available to the public and should be available in most nurseries - if not all - where Pinkabelle is sold. * For those interested in how Pinkabelle was dicsovered, Bob was right in saying it was discovered as a sport. For those of you who think i am talking about a game of some sort i will explain what a sport is, with the help of the Royal Horticulural Society www.rhs.org.uk ): "A sport is a spontaneous mutation from the plant that bears it, differing in one or more characteristics. It might have a different flower colour, double instead of single blooms, variegated instead of all-green leaves or a dwarf habit, ...." If you look at my post at the top of the blog (August 1 2007) you will see a picture of the clever apple orchardists who discovered Pinkabelle (in 1999) as a sport in their orchard. They are based in Donnybrook. The tree they are standing next to is 6 years old in this photo and averages about 20kg of fruit each year. You may be wondering why it has taken 9 years to get to your garden centre? It is because we have to trial and test the trees to see what characteristics have mutated, such as pollination issues(which i touched on above), size of trees, fruit maturity etcetc. We have to do this so we know what we are talking about when we sell and market our products to retail nurseries, their customers and people on blogs! * To Stuart in Brissy. We have stated that Pinkabelle will only grow in temperate regions. good examples of this are toowoomba, stanthorpe parts of western Brisbane. Depending where you are located in brissy will depend on the succcess of your Pinkabelle. I would be interested to find out more and to see how it goes. All retail nurseries we have sold Pinkabelle trees to, in what we would consider non temperate regions, we have made sure that they understand that there is a risk that the tree may not fruit for some of their customers depending on where they lived....having said all that. Many people i have spoken too in Brisbane are keen to take the risk and give it a go anyway "to see how it goes"!! With regard to your other questions - you should get fruit any time from the 2nd year. Granny Smiths are good pollinators as their flowering period is longer than most other apples, however it comes down to personal choice as to what you like. In terms of helping Pinkabelle fruit there is probably no difference. Both are very suitable for Pinkabelle pollinators. * Valerie in the US - Pinkabelle has been sent to the USA and i am 99% certain it has just been release from quarantine over there. The best person to speak to is Lynnell Brandt. He will be able to tell you about the development status at the moment. Contact him through this website: http://www.ewbrandt.com/contact-us.htm With reagrd to your other questions. Planting on a slope if fine. Planting next to a peach orchard will have no detrimental effect on your apple orchards. Many apple orchardists in Australia grow some sort of stone fruit too. You will limited where you will be able to get your trees from as we have restricted who is allowed to grow Pinkabelle outside of Australia. Lynnell will be able to supply you the best and "strongest-most resistant" trees in the USA, but i dare say that is a few years away as yet as budwood numbers would be very limited at the present time. I hope this answers all questions. Sorry it is such a long winded post - it wil teach me to not leave it so long next time. Any other questions please feel free to contact me direct on (02) 9838 1909 or continue to run them through this Daley's forum so everybody can learn. Our website www.plantnet.com.au ) is currently being updated with some new information - with pollination being included in that - as it seems an area of confusion for some people who are new to fruit growing. Website should be finalised by mid May with an updated list of stockists. Cheers, Craig Perring PlantNet (02) 9838 1909 | About the Author Craig from PlantNet PlantNet Office, Riverstone 21st April 2008 1:56pm #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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aNON says... That Craig's a helpful guy. Bring on the dwarf granny smith pollinator, and I will be absolutley set. My Pinkabelle trees are absolute ball tearers, they are big thick and bushy. I am not sure of the rootstock but they are very vigourous (read helathy) for a dawrf plant if that makes sense. | About the Author aNON 21st April 2008 6:26pm #UserID: 700 Posts: 194 View All aNON's Edible Fruit Trees |
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aNON says... Craig Here is what gardeners want Dwarf cherry on gisela 5 or zee stem interstock Low chill cherry eg Royal Lee % Minnie Royal. Dwarf Apricot eg genetic dwarf or Pumiselect or pixy rootstock. Dwarf peaches/nectarines that fruit earlier or later than pixzee/nectazee we want a mini orchard that fruits over an extended period. eg www.davewilson.com vaieties. I realise a lot aof the above are pateneted to others but ANFIC or bradfords copy whatever Zaiger release within a year or two, so you should be able to do the same or get the wholsale nursery to grow them and you sell them eg Flemings ahave a 50 tree min order. | About the Author aNON 22nd April 2008 12:49pm #UserID: 700 Posts: 194 View All aNON's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter the permie says... Hi this list seems to be going in a circle,if you go back to the start of the thread you will see that any apple can be dwafted by using the right rootstock, most apple in nurseries are on "Granny smith seedling" and have the potential to grow to 6m high x 6 m wide. by putting any variety on say M9 you can keep it to 1.8m and plant them 1 m apart ( a stake or wire is best as it has a small root system) this one is idea for pots, M26 will make it about 2- 2.4 m high and does not need a stake, then MM102 or MM106 give more height and vigour say for espaliers plus are better for multiple grafts on the same tree. the size of fruit is not affected but with smaller trees there is less pruning, easy to net and more variety can be grown in the same space. our Heritage fruits group has 419 apple vars with 620 still avail in Vic. have a go and put a polinator on you Pinkabelle yourself go back to the PDF supplied earlier by Craig out of "all about apples" book and try something different. a piece of scion still only costs $1 at our grafting days in Vic this winter you can find them on www.heritagefruits.org you can also contact Harry from SA rare fruits society they also run grafting days in SA, we will have similar groups in NSW & WA this year and we are about to launch the Heritage Fruits society in Vic late in May check our website for details www.petethepermie.com I would suggest we probably have 100+ vars to pollinate your Pinkabelle tree. cheers peter | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 5th May 2008 8:31pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Andrew Britton says... Hi Craig, I live on the south coast of NSW and I am currently searching for a dwarf pink lady tree for my small back yard. Can i get one of the pinkabella apples trees as well and will this be a good cross pollinator to the dwarf pink lady. I know very little about this topic but keen to learn. Can you email me directly please. Cheers | About the Author Andrew Britton Nowra, Sth Coast NSW 11th May 2008 7:14pm #UserID: 943 Posts: 1 View All Andrew Britton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Elizabeth says... Andrew, I've done a fair amount of research lately on this issue so I think I can help. I'm in Sydney so (too few) chill hours are a factor. However, in Nowra I presume you get colder winters and some frosts? Pinkabelle I think is a sport (a naturally occuring variation) of a normal Pink Lady tree. It may be a cross-pollinator, but I'm not sure if it would be too close. Pink Lady/Pinkabelle have a variety of appropriate cross pollinators, many of which are available as dwarfs. These include Granny Smith, Gala, Crabapples, Fuji and Lady Williams. Daleys has dwarf Granny Smith and Pink Lady. You could also try nurseries stocking Flemmings trees - they make dwarf Pink Lady and Gala trees. You can also order many of these dwarf apple trees from Woodbridge Fruit Trees in Tasmania. Flemings and Woodbridge both have website which you can find easily through Google. | About the Author Sydney 11th May 2008 8:00pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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PlantNet says... Hi Andrew, Elizabeth seems to have covered you queries. All winter stock will be out in the nurseries in the next few weeks and there is planty of places on the South coast where you can get them. Go to our website - www.plantnet.com.au to find your list of stockists on the south coast. we have just updated our website to a HTML format as well as flash player as some people were finding it difficult to access it through the flash player...all info is the same but the flash site is much nicer!!! There are many nurseries who produce and sell dwarf fruit trees, fleming's just seem to grow the most!! JFT Nurseries and GJ Goodman's (Olea Nurseries in WA) are all excellent nurseries who sell through the retailers. Andrew (or anyone)if you ave any more queries please call me on (02) 9838 1909 as i could not find your email address to respond too. Cheers, Craig | About the Author Craig from PlantNet 19th May 2008 10:21am #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brian & Carole says... We have two pinkabelles in pots. They are about 1350 cms in height, when purchased last year they were just sticks(from Lena Nuseries Wanneroo)one had has produced two apples, one the size of a medium sized Pink Lady the other is still small but growing. The larger apple tasted better than a Pink Lady, crisp and sweet with just the slightest hint of tartness. Two items we would like help with, how close together should the trees be to maximise pollination ? Cincturing the tree to encourage bushiness how and what do you use ? | About the Author Perth 20th May 2008 9:24am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kerri says... Hi everyone, Mary-lyn to answer your question you can get the large trees, it all depends on where you are looking, i know that some nurserys around the south west area won't keep them, they say they won't fruit here. Not cold enough. You will have to hunt around or maybe ask for a special order. For those who are interested the pinkabelle apples you can get from bunnings. | About the Author kerri wa 2nd June 2008 9:29pm #UserID: 1000 Posts: 5 View All kerri's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring says... Hi all, Glad to see that people are answering the questions as they happen. You are certianly making my job easier. I spoke to Wandilla Nursery the other day and wanted to clarify a few comments. I had a bit of a rant on the 21st April, about Wandilla Nursery and the mis-representation of our marketing of Pinkabelle and of mis-information that they had been passing on their clients. Speaking to Caroline at Wandilla she explained to me that Wandilla Nursery did not have any trees to sell last year (they do this year) and was worried that Bob had passed on information that was incorrect or not from them. She said she certainly had not spoken to anyone about the marketing of Pinkabelle let alone had a string of complaints, simply because she had none to sell. She said she was also baffled by the comments and could not recall any of her staff saying anything along those lines to her or any customers. I would like to apologise to Caroline at Wandilla about posting comments before clarifying and double checking with them about what was or wasn't said. Bob, I am not saying i don't belive you but i was wondering if can you give me a call (or email: craigperring@plantnet.com.au) to clarify some of those earlier comments just say i can set the record straight with the right person about some of the specifications about Pinkabelle. We like to right info to get out the public about all our products and where we can speak to anyone who may have concerns about them. Cheers, Craig Perring PlantNet (02) 9838 1909 Cheeck out our website for stockists and product info: www.plantnet.com.au | About the Author PlantNet 3rd June 2008 1:39pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Itdepends says... "As Pete has correctly pointed out - being a PBR protected variety means you can not propagate this variety under PBR laws. For more info on PBR laws you can visit this site: http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/pbr/index.shtml " I went and had a look at the website and noted the following. "Exceptions to the breeder's right are the use of the variety privately and for non-commercial purposes, for experimental purposes, and for breeding other plant varieties. A variety can be used for these purposes irrespective of the existence of Plant Breeder's Rights." Doesn't that mean that home gardeners can graft/propogate a PBR variety as long as it's for private use? | About the Author Itdepends2 7th June 2008 7:23pm #UserID: 884 Posts: 41 View All Itdepends2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring says... Hi Sakeena and Lynne, Pinkabelle's bear fruit around ANZAC day, and yes a red delicious will be OK as a pollinator. Lynne trees are starting to get their treees. Bunning's NSW has been very slow to order but are coming through. if you go to your store and they are not there yet just ask them to order them in for you. Also check out our website www.plantnet.com.au for further stockists in your area. Cheers. Craig Perring (02) 9838 1909 | About the Author PlantNet 16th June 2008 9:37am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lynne says... Hi,went to Bunnings to pick up my pinkabelles today and came home with an angel peach as well,my question to Craig Perring is whats the best way to plant angel peach in large pot or inground(if inground in corner of backyard where it gets mainly morning sun).Any advice would be appreciated. cheers lynne. | About the Author lynne1 sydney 19th June 2008 9:48pm #UserID: 1054 Posts: 2 View All lynne1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... No, not at all. Think of it as ripping your arm off and cloning it on to another person. It's still your arm genetically. Thus, it can not be classed as a pollinator as it is not genetically different. Luckily the pinkabelle is partially self fertile, so 1 tree will be OK-ish. I had a flower come in late Feb where I cinctured the trunk, it could ahve only been pollinated by itself, and had all 5 seeds in the fruit, indicating succesful pollination. | About the Author 24th June 2008 10:49am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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. says... I read Craig Perring's post (dated 3rd June'08) with interest. I have been to Wandilla a few times. It positioned itself as a nursery specialising in fruit trees. The staff there seems nice enough at greeting customers initially, and they offer rather general 'common sense' advice on gardening and fruit trees. However, they are virtually 'clueless' if you try to obtain more specific info regarding the variety / specific varieties of the fruit trees that they are selling. The information given could vary or change from day to day, and from one staff to another - very confusing if you are a novice. It almost seems like they don't know the products that they are selling, and asked the customer to "check websites in the internet" for more information. Well, customers who could access and check websites for specific info don't really need to ask/approach them for advice and help, do they ? So now, I only go there to see what is currently in stock when I happen to pass by, and purchase my trees from other nurseries that offer more helpful advice (and better after sales services). This is not to discredit anyone person or the nursery and I am only putting my own experience in words. In a way, I think I understand what Bob and aNON were trying to say. And for the readers' info, I do NOT know either Bob or aNON personally except I read their posts in this forum. | About the Author Perth 30th June 2008 11:55am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John says... Yeah, I asked about pots for trees and they could not say what potting mix to use, they sell some, but actually said to go elsewhere and buy "fruit tree" potting mix. Have searched and not found any, so use Yates Professional premium and have been very happy with it. They are very dear but you can usually get what you want there. The lady told me they sell 8000 bare root trees each year, and judging by the mail orders from the country near the tills that would be about right. | About the Author John20 Perth 30th June 2008 2:59pm #UserID: 1094 Posts: 287 View All John20's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cate says... I would like to purchase a dwarf apple; however, my problem is that I live in FNQLD Townsville. I was initially excited that the "Pinkerbelle" may have been Ok as it has a low chill requirement, but after having read earlier posts here, I see it has only been recommended as far north as Brisbane. Townsville winter tends to hover around 16 - 20 degrees at night (an absolute out of the ordinary temp might go as low as 6 degrees but this is unusual). Day time temps hover around 20 - 23 degrees approx. In recent years the wet has not been starting until Jan and going into Mar. Any suggestions.... | About the Author Cate Townsville QLD 21st July 2008 1:08pm #UserID: 1182 Posts: 4 View All Cate's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cate says... Durian smells pretty bad. Thanks for the advice John. I currently grow vanilla, coffee, tahitian limes, miracle fruit, an array of chillies and herbs, strawberries, grumichama, jaboticaba, wampee, peanut butter tree, pomegranite, 3 varieties of passion fruit, sweetie kiwi fruit, banana, coco nut, a goji (not doing so well),rosella, asparagus, dragon fruit, olive, joppa, blueberry, capsicum,and a few other strange things like the leafy plant that tastes like mushroom and the tropical spinach. They are my edibles. Not all have fruited as yet, but all are growing quite well with the newest being at least 12 months old now. My latest interest is trying to get hold of a cocoa bean tree. I hear there is a plantation in the table lands and they have grown north of Ingham (just up the road)quite successfully. I always have a new interest, but I am originally from down south on the river in SA and crave the foods I grew up with like apples, peaches and pears, but don't want to live in such a cold climate. As you can see, I'll give anything a go and so far, I have not had too many casualties! My fingers are still crossed though that they all produce. PS we live on a block less than 500m2. I love my garden! | About the Author Cate Townsville QLD 24th July 2008 9:07pm #UserID: 1182 Posts: 4 View All Cate's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... We bought our 2 pinkabelles about a year ago or whenever they became available in Perth. Have them in pots as we were led to believe that these trees are ideal to be grown in a pot. We don't have any other apple trees. One pinkabelle got 2 apples I guess around Christmas and a good few weeks ago we picked the apples. They were very small but I knew pinkabelles are small. These apples are nothing like a Pink Lady which we thought they are supposed to be like a miniature version of a pink lady. They were more like the old jonathon variety or a sundowner. They were quite dark in colour, not pink like a pink lady. I am sure we don't have pinkabelle trees. It seems our apples were ready at the wrong time for a pinkabelle. If they aren't pinkabelle trees I will be very disappointed considering what we paid. | About the Author Liz4 Perth 27th July 2008 12:43am #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jody says... What a very interesting read, I am new to Fruit Trees and need a little advise please! I purchased a pinkabelle yesterday and after reading the information here, I went on a search for another miniature form for pollination. This proved to be quite a task, and then after becoming quite frustrated, I purchased a Fleming's Ballerina "Polka" I'm hoping someone can tell me what the chances of these pollinating each other will be. Thanks so much Jody | About the Author Jody Berwick, Melbourne 27th July 2008 4:19pm #UserID: 1199 Posts: 1 View All Jody's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kitty says... Hi, Very interesting read & now I am unsure if I wasted my money or not?? Could I please have some advice it would be much appreciated as this is my very first garden & first time at trying to grow anything! Complete Novice!! I just bought 2 pinkabelles from bunnings, If I am reading right did I just waste my money as we are North of Perth & I don't think it gets cold enough here? Also if they did have a chance we also purchased 2 half wine barrells to plant them in will they be alright in these pots if so where abouts should I plant them (full sun, winter sun, part shade away from coastal winds etc) & how far apart & using what potting mix. I also purchased an Eureka Lemon, Tahitian Lime & imperial Mandarin also to put in Wine Barrells if anyone had any advice on these as well it would be most helpful (or a recomendation of a good gardening book :)) Thanks so much Kitty | About the Author Kitty Yanchep WA 3rd August 2008 1:53pm #UserID: 1215 Posts: 1 View All Kitty's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kate says... I have a Pinkabell in a pot. It has been doing well for almost a year now & has just begun coming into flower again. I did'nt get any fruit on it last year, as expected, but I also have a dwarf Granny Smith & a regular Pink Lady , also dwarf. I believe the Pinkabelle is exactly the same as the Pink Lady apples in taste, but they don't need other apple trees to pollinate. I hope mine fruit this year...for once, they're all coming into blossum together...nothing like a fresh apple , just picked...yum | About the Author central coast 29th September 2008 6:26am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jenny says... I bought two pinkabelles over a year ago. There were flowers on both but all but one fell off. I think the cause was strong winds. I ended up with one delicious tasting apple. I called it my $100.00 apple. Both pots have flowers at the moment which I move as soon as it gets windy. I'm hoping for more than one apple this season! | About the Author Sydney north 30th September 2008 8:04pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mark says... I've got a Pinkabelle as well as a Golden Dorset and a "Tropical Apple" variety in large pots. I didn't think the other two varieties would cross-pollinate with the Pinkabelle, but because its supposed to be partly self-pollinating, I thought I'd give it a go and see what happens. The Tropical one flowered first, followed by the Golden Dorset, followed by the Pinkabelle, with the flowering times overlapping. I only got them earlier this year so I'm not sure if we'll get any fruit just yet or even at all in this climate, so we'll wait and see! | About the Author Mark9 Tingalpa, Brisbane 4th October 2008 9:44am #UserID: 1294 Posts: 3 View All Mark9's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gavin says... Hi all, Glad I found this forum and I hope I am posting on the right one. I have purchased my first Pinkabelle tree a couple of weeks ago and it must love my location as I have lots of flowers on it already. However, I have to admit to being a somewhat naive gardener and not knowing a great deal about plants etc. I have noticed that there are little tiny things moving along the flowers. They light coloured things only about 1-2mm long. You'd hardly know they were there but upon closer inspection you can see that there are a few of them. Is that wrong? I'm guessing that I don't want them there so can anyone suggest what I should do to keep the plant under some sort of pest control, naturally preferably. Also, someone suggested that I need to put a white net over it. Is that right? Is there any good links that someone might have for me to read about how to grow an apple tree successfully? Many thanks everyone! Gavin. | About the Author Gavin Melbourne 12th October 2008 3:01pm #UserID: 1504 Posts: 1 View All Gavin's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Karry says... Hi am looking for Blueberries but have been told not to get the rabbit eye varieties. We are looking for the smaller growing varieties can anyone tell us where their is some stock of non rabbit eye blueberry varieties in Perth Metro Area please? ta :o) We would not want them to grow more than a meter in height and want to plant them between our citrus. Suggestions and advice welcomed. Our Kei Apples we bought are growing but still no thorns, we are looking forward to our first crop next year. | About the Author Karry Southern Suburbs - Perth WA 15th October 2008 10:22am #UserID: 1162 Posts: 10 View All Karry's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pauline says... My pinkabelle tree bought in the winter seems to be doing well. I did wonder around with a cotton but for the first lot of flowers that opened, but then went away for a couple of weeks. It looks like a few of the ones I cotton budded have pollinated and are fattening up, although the ones I didn't have or are falling off. So, maybe helping the tree along is the way to go (if you have no life like me). Now I know you shouldn't really let your tree grow any fruit in the first year or two so it's energy into growing roots and branches, but I don't think I am going to be able to stop myself. Does anyone have any advice on how many would be too many apples to leave to grow on a new tree? | About the Author Pauline Adelaide 19th October 2008 5:51pm #UserID: 1532 Posts: 293 View All Pauline's Edible Fruit Trees |
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terri says... I have read that apple trees require cold winters and mild summers. Toodyay gets very cold in winter but very hot in summer (approx 5C hotter than perth), not uncommon to get many days of 40C plus. Could I expect apples (or pears for that matter), to grow ok in that type of climate? Also, can anyone tell me how many of the Pinkabelle trees would be needed to get the same amount of fruit that would grow on 1 x Pink Lady apple tree? (roughly). | About the Author terri toodyay WA 30th October 2008 11:08pm #UserID: 1588 Posts: 1 View All terri's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Elizabeth says... Anon., if your Pinkabelle was new this year it is very normal for young trees to flower but not set fruit as they are putting their energy into growing branches. My Pinkabelle bore only one apple its first year, this year it looks to have set a good dozen or so and I expect it to further improve again next season (though mine has several other apples to cross pollinate with too). | About the Author Sydney 9th November 2008 12:28am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gavin says... Hi Mark, Thanks for getting back to me. I must have incorrect settings on this forum because I only got an email yesterday! Unfortunately the flowers died off and no apples for this season. Thanks for the information. I can't really see any little insects there now but i will get some eco-oil in preparation for a return. Thanks, Gavin. | About the Author Melbourne 8th December 2008 4:37am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gavin says... Hi all, Just wondering if anyone can advise me. I'm using recycled water from laundry and showers on my lawn and also on my Pinkabelle. Does anyone know if I shouldn't be watering it with recycled water? It doesn't appear to be hating it but I did read somewhere that I shouldn't use recycled water on ground vegetables and I didn't know if that was a general rule. Thanks all, Gavin. | About the Author Melbourne 8th December 2008 4:40am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Planet Ark has some garden safe laundry powders.The supermarkets carry them, they are not expensive. The warnings about recycled water and vegetables is more about human health,e.g. E Coli being in the recycled water and then being splashed on vegetables which somebody might eat without washing it thoroughly and so get sick. Or say someone was a carrier of Hep. A,their shower water could spread Hep. A via unwashed vegetables that had been watered with water they had showered in.The chances of this actually happening are not very high, but these days health officials have to cover all bases or someone is likely to sue them. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 8th December 2008 6:52pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Donna says... Hi We have had a pinkabelle tree growing in a pot in the backyard in full sun for about 6 mths. There are at least 3 small apples growing on it but two have a sticky substance on them and one has some very small brown spots, also some of the leaves have been partially eaten. Also should the trunk and brances have small whiteish spots on them? Please help. Thanks Donna | About the Author Donna4 Sydney 1st January 2009 2:17pm #UserID: 1803 Posts: 1 View All Donna4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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RolFlor a says... The pinkabelle is sold by daleysfruit. http://daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/apple.htm
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Clare says... Hi Craig, I need some very basic advice on how to care for my pinkabelle. Should it be in full sun? It very hot here in the summer. (Today was 41 degrees). Or should it have partial shade. Does it tolerate frost, because we always have some in the winter. Does it like to be well watered? For example, moist not wet, or dry to touch. With thanks, Clare | About the Author Clare2 Wagga Wagga 7th January 2009 10:57pm #UserID: 1831 Posts: 1 View All Clare2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig Perring - PlantNet says... Hello all - plenty of posts that have come in over time with many people offering advice which is good. I notice there is many questions that people are directed at me and i would suggest that you email me directly to get a quicker response!! Although I do try and get on here every couple of months and try and answer as many questions as possible sometimes it difficult to get to them all at once. My email address is craigperring@plantnet.com.au or phone me on (02) 9838 1909 Happy new year to all... PS For those in Western Australia we will have every variety of apple you could dream of in a dwarf range by 2011 (i know it sounds like a long time away but it will come quick!) I look forward to receiveing your call and emails. | About the Author Craig from PlantNet 21st January 2009 3:32pm #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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PlantNet says... Hi Lousie, 1: There is no need to prune your Pinkabelle. They tend to grow up before growing out. They will branch (see example picture on this blog). Remeber they only get to about a metre wide andare spur bearing. Be patient and it will grow to an ice shape. they have a avery nice natural shape. 2. Pinkabelle is partially self fertile btu benefits from cross pollination. Dwarf grannies do work however they are not available in WA at present. We are hoping to have some in 2010-2011. As Bob has staed Crab apples - any type are good pollinators. Quick one to Phil - sorry mate i have nto recieved any emails from you? (got one from Damo) but nothing from you at all i am sorry - unless it has gone into my spam which i do check but things can easily be overlooked in there! please try and email me again as i would like to be able to answer your question - double check the email address you are sending to is right: craigperring@plantnet.com.au If not give me a call on (02) 9838 1909 and i can answer any questions you need answering. Again sorry for not receiving you email but some things weird things happen in cyberspace!! Cheers, Craig Perring PlantNet (02) 9838 1909 craigperring@plantnet.com.au | About the Author Craig from PlantNet 13th February 2009 12:28pm #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pauline says... Well my 6 apples had been doing great on my tree which I bought in the winter. Unfortunetly 4 of them seemed to have started cooking in the heatwave and have bruised areas, and now possums have been chomping on one of the two good ones left. So now I have one apple which may make it. | About the Author Pauline Adelaide 18th February 2009 5:18pm #UserID: 1532 Posts: 293 View All Pauline's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Hi - can anyone tell me how many hours chill Pinkabelles and Granny Smiths need to fruit? ...best information I've found has been "medium chill" and "temperate" - has anyone successfully got a decent amount of fruit on the Perth flats (aka Perth Coastal Plain for people who didn't grow up in the hills...) ;-) According to the Ag Dept, we get ~290-350 hours on the flats, compared to ~440-680 in the hills, so it makes a bit of difference... http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/content/HORT/FN/CP/POMEFRUITS/Winter_Chilling_Farmnote.pdf I bought a Pinkabelle from Bunnings a little while back, with the intention of getting a Granny to fertilise it, but if they're not going to fruit, I guess I'd be better off putting something else in the space! Thanks! :-) | About the Author Liz Thornlie (Perth) WA 20th April 2009 3:28pm #UserID: 1639 Posts: 36 View All Liz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pauline says... I hand polinated mine as I read so many people complain that they didn't get any fruit. I only got my tree last winter and had 8 apples forming. I removed two so it wouldn't use up too much of the trees strengh in it's first year. I possum ate another one earlier in the year and one cooked in the heatwave. I ate one a couple of weeks ago (it was lovely) and had to pick the last two off a couple of days ago as a possum ate another one! I will hand polinate next year too. :) | About the Author Pauline Adelaide 25th April 2009 6:40pm #UserID: 1532 Posts: 293 View All Pauline's Edible Fruit Trees |
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melly says... I bought a pinkabelle last year from bunnings, I am right on the beach and salt and wind are usually a problem with lots of plants, but my pinkabelle is going very well, it is in a large pot. It is pretty much a stick with leaves but has 12 apples on it. I think a couple are nearly ready but not sure how to tell. It is still flowering though and there is fruit at all stages. Should I take the smaller fruit off so it can concentrate it's energy on the others or on growing? Should it still be flowering? Also if I wanted to plant it when would be the ideal time. I am really enjoying this tree and was so excited when it fruited. I only have 1 apple tree and have been looking for a dwarf granny smith, but maybe someone has another aplpe close by or else it self pollinated pretty well | About the Author melly scarborough perth 8th May 2009 6:24pm #UserID: 2301 Posts: 2 View All melly's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I have a Pink lady (same diff) and was told I needed another low chill for better pollination (Fuygi..whatever!) my fuygi had lots of fruit this year (at 2yrs old) the pink lady - none. Take out the "king" apple (one in the centre) of a group helps to get better fruit, however you should not let any of your trees bear fruit in their first 2 yrs - it's at the expense of the plant (frame and roots) think of pregnancy!! Be brave and lose the fruit bar maybe one and your tree will be better for it!(we live on the coast of WA too) They are ready when you can slighty twist them and the stem breaks. Take them inside for further ripening. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton WA 11th May 2009 12:37am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jacelyn says... Hi everyone, wondering if someone can help me - I am new to gardening and recently bought a Pinkabelle for my east balcony (it's in a very large pot). I guess my first question is will it be ok to stay where it only gets direct sun until midday? Secondly, I noticed today some little holes on some of the leaves. I've included pictures of both the front and the back of one of them. Is this normal (it was blowing a gale a few nights back and I don't know what wind damage woud look like) or is it some kind of disease? Any kind of help would be much appreciated! Thanks
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amanda says... I have problems with this on my apples too - also on my loquat and most of my stone fruit - by the end of summer (the hot easterlies will do this). The new growth that comes in the cooler weather is always fine. The leaf colour is healthy looking, but as you got the plant recently - it may need time to toughen up a bit. Nursery plants are often well cared for and/or kept under shade cloth. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton WA 20th May 2009 5:49pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Our 2 Pinkabelle trees have quite a bit of fruit on but we won't get to eat any as some pest got to the trees. The apples got quite sticky and some of them have gone soft and mushy but that could be from getting burnt. Whatever the bug is it get right into the apple. Our first year we got 2 small apples on one of the trees but they weren't anything like a pink lady and this year both trees have a decent amount of fruit, some smallish apples and some are very big. I still don't think our trees are Pinkabelle somehow. At the moment I wish I hadn't wasted the money on buying them. Does anyone know what bug causes the stickiness? | About the Author Liz4 Kingsley(Perth) 26th May 2009 12:14am #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Thanks Jimmy, I didn't think it was fruit fly as hadn't seen any but something was going on with the leaves as well and I think some little bug was eating the leaves. I'm a hopeless gardener. Hopefully one day we'll get some decent apples that we can eat but what I'm now concerned about is, if our trees aren't really Pinkabelle then they shouldn't be in pots. I bought those trees believing them to be Pinkabelle as we don't have anywhere to plant apple trees in the garden. | About the Author Liz4 Kingsley(Perth) 1st June 2009 12:51pm #UserID: 696 Posts: 7 View All Liz4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Hi - if you're after big, UV-resistant plant pots, check out http://www.gardencityplastics.com/advanced.htm - they have up to 250 litre, 840mm diameter pots. (I think the 580mm dia ones I bought a while back were ~$35 each - I got a note about a price increase of ~5% recently, but they'd still be WAY cheaper than what I could find elsewhere.) I've planted six blueberry plants in them - nice and sturdy, and come in a few colours. Cheers, Liz | About the Author Liz Thornlie (Perth) WA 13th July 2009 10:52pm #UserID: 1639 Posts: 36 View All Liz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter the permie says... Hi Helen , you get what you pay for , these will be on seedling rootstocks and can grow 6m high & 6m wide whats the cost of a chainsaw to prune them in the future. look for heritage apples on dwaft rootstocks only every need secators, plus they have other qualities like fruiting in 2-4 years not 7-10 like the ones you saw. the Heritage fruits society has a couple of hundred vars to buy at the grafting days for no more than $18 see www,petethepermie.com for more info | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 22nd July 2009 6:46pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jacelyn says... Hi Jimmy - your apples look amazing!! My pinkabelle is losing its leaves - they look like they're progressively 'drying' out and falling off. The soil feels moist so I wouldn't have thought it was dehydrated... I bought a dwarf granny/red fuji for cross pollination this weekend which only has 1 tiny leaf on it - I had thought then perhaps it was normal for the pinkabelle to drop leaves being winter, but now seeing your pics, perhaps not? I'm scared I might have killed my tree already! | About the Author Jacelyn scarborough perth 27th July 2009 12:14pm #UserID: 2336 Posts: 21 View All Jacelyn's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Warren D. says... It's Autumn people! Apples should start yellowing just after harvest then drop off. That means give them a good dose of trace element fertilizer which will help with bud strength for the next season. By the way as Pink Lady is trade marked I wouldn't be grafting without a license for each tree. | About the Author Warren D1 Perth Hills 28th July 2009 4:13pm #UserID: 2590 Posts: 1 View All Warren D1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig says... Hi all, Quick update to let you know we are still here but very busy with our Winter stock. We are getting an "early spring" which proves difficult for bare root trees! Most questions have been answered in the forum by the regulars so thanks to all who provide info. If you have any specific questions please do not hesitate to contact me on (02) 9838 1909....regarding the discussions about leaves - they should be falling off and if they haven't i would suggest you pull them off so the plant shuts down. With Spring around the corner i would be doing this sooner rather than later as they will be sure to grow back rather quickly. Cheers Craig Perring PlantNet (02) 9838 1909 | About the Author Craig from PlantNet PlantNet 3rd August 2009 10:12am #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig says... Hi Jimmy sounds like you may be hitting Spring early too...Sydney is having lovely weather albeit a bit early for my liking! Would like to see winter finish off properly. Angel peaches are nice! Very sweet. We have a sub tropical version (this one is yellow fleshed) that will be available in Perth around October. Without giving away all of our trade secrets, we do have some new fruit trees coming out in October / November (in fact WA will be the only state to stock them so early), which will be a new variety of Plumcot (plum x apricot) and also a new medium chill (450hrs) apricot. Limited stocks will be released this October / November so keep an ear to the ground.... our website may be the best to hear first hand what is happenening www.plantnet.com.au We also have some exciting news that will make Western Australian gardeners pleased - especially apple lovers.....but you will have to wait until next year before we can get into that. I am available anytime to chat on (02) 9838 1909 or email me direct with any questions - info@plantnet.com.au Cheers Craig | About the Author Craig from PlantNet PlantNet 10th August 2009 2:14pm #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Marie says... Hi Craig, I live in Western Australia and I have planted a few dwarf fruit trees. I was wondering if the chill factor here is low enough for the pinkabelle apples. Would it also be cool enough for the granny smith. The area where I would like to plant them is quite narrow, would this be o.k? | About the Author Marie5 Western Australlia 13th August 2009 2:18pm #UserID: 2656 Posts: 1 View All Marie5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig from PlantNet says... Morning all, Yes apple news is good for WA. Just have to be patient. Don't forget there are already columnar apples in WA that are suitable pollinators for Pinkaballe. Subtropical Angel Peach will not be avialble until Octoberish - the way the weather is it may even be earlier. Had plenty of reports that Pinkabelle is fruiting like mad (with cross pollinations) in Rockingham and Freemantle! which suggests to me that Perth will be fine for chill. Like Jimmy said hills are better....planting on the Southern side of the house can alsways help with chill as it tends to be a bit cooler there for obvious reasons. Pinkabelle is a temperate apple not a high chill one. Marie - narrow gaps are fine. Trees are dwarf (as you know) Pinkabelle will only grow approximately 1m wide so that is what you will need to work off with reagrds to space. Dwarf grannies can tend to be a bit wider but can be kept to a desired size fairly easily if they are on a dwarf rootstock - again the columnar apples could also help. Narrow spot - does this mena less light? A little trick (and something i did last year as i did not have a pollinator) for those who want to wait for a dwarf tree but want something to cross pollinate their Pinkabelle's this Spring - Go and buy / find (ask neighbours?) some apple blossom and place in a vase (admitedlly i used a pint glass!) underneath your trees and let the bees do their thing...you can also get a small brush and hand pollinate. Cheating i know but gets the job done. Hope this helps. | About the Author Craig from PlantNet PlantNet 17th August 2009 9:45am #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sylvia says... Have read through this entire thread! Great info, thanks everyone! Am moving near Orange, NSW, where there is plenty of chill for apples, (a huge industry around there) but if Pinkabelle is a temperate apple, could it be too cold? It snows lightly on my place sometimes. Also, I'd like to plant apples to harvest for the longest possible time as part of a permaculture setup. Three questions - can anyone recommend other apple varieties with great taste, keeping qualities and/or hardiness? What kind of protection from birds works best? I was thinking of a permanent frame of star spikes and PVC tubes to support netting when needed. Is it possible to find Bramley apples in Australia? I have fond memories of baked Bramley apples, stuffed with sultanas, butter and a little cinnamon from my time living in England. The best taste! | About the Author sylvia2 20th August 2009 9:47am #UserID: 2692 Posts: 1 View All sylvia2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Craig from PlantNet says... Hi all, Pauline - you should not have to prune Pinkabelle - call me to discuss if you like as t may be easier to talk to you in person - (02) 9838 1909. Sylvia - Orange is fine to grow Pinkabelle. We have trees in Bathurst where we have many varieties of all fruit trees - low chill, temperate and high chill.the Pinkabelle fruits very well there. Birds is a tough one - many different thoughts on this maybe one for googling? I use nets but am only talking a few trees. There is one product that i have heard of that is humane and appears to work (although i have never used it) is called D-Ter. you can enquire about it on (02) 9589 0703. We can source many apples through our nursery network - maybe best to tell me exactly what you are looking once you have worked it out and I can make some enquiries..this website has some variety adn seasonal info: http://www.oneadaysuperfood.com.au/apple_facts/apple_varieties_and_seasonality_information/ call me if you would like to discuss further. Cheers Craig PlantNet (02) 9838 1909 | About the Author Craig from PlantNet PlantNet 24th August 2009 9:28am #UserID: 192 Posts: 11 View All Craig from PlantNet's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Loz says... Craig, I need help. Last year I purchased 4 pinkabelle trees. I have planted them into deep and wide limestone pots. They are positioned in full sun and the pots are on pavers. They are slowly dying. I gave them plenty of water in the summer and the rain is keeping them watered at the moment but im worried I've done/doing something wrong. The leaves are turning dark and are now falling off. :( HELP!!! | About the Author Loz1 Perth WA 27th August 2009 2:14pm #UserID: 2718 Posts: 1 View All Loz1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jacelyn says... Hi Loz Mine has done the same thing.. I think from what I've read here, they're meant to shut down over winter - Craig said: "regarding the discussions about leaves - they should be falling off and if they haven't i would suggest you pull them off so the plant shuts down. With Spring around the corner i would be doing this sooner rather than later as they will be sure to grow back rather quickly." I hope that's right cos I pulled all the leaves off mine (they seemed to be dying off anyway)! I'm really looking forward to spring so I can see whether my pinkabelle is still alive or not hahaha | About the Author Jacelyn scarborough perth 28th August 2009 11:47am #UserID: 2336 Posts: 21 View All Jacelyn's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Loz n jacelyn - i have cut n pasted this from "pink lady pollination" topic: Jimmy says... Ther are two schools of thought, the first is to pull off in autumn to allow the buds to get the max chill. the other is to pull off in spring (like now) and then the tree will bud up and bloom within 3 weeks. I have tried both and there seems to be no diff yet, In Jimmys edibles page he says he used to work at a fruit tree research station - so the advice is sound...I keep forgetting to do my apple trees tho'!! I hope I am not too late :-/ | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 28th August 2009 7:03pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wetnwild1 says... Hi Just wondering if my pinkablle is ok. It lost all it's leaves in July/Aug and has heaps of little buds but none of it has sprouted yet. Is this normal. My Granny smith has done the same but hasn't got very many buds. I gave them some fruit and citrus fert in Sept like the instructions say to for apples. Any ideas. | About the Author wetnwild1 Perth 14th October 2009 4:20pm #UserID: 2900 Posts: 4 View All wetnwild1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tiggerbow says... I have 6 apple trees that I planted this winter. None are showing signs of 'sprouting' except for 1 flower on the pinkabelle which is trying very hard to open. I am in Queens park - sort of half way between Kelmscott and Belmont. I spoke to Joe at Tass 1 trees a couple of weeks ago and he said it was pretty normal at this stage. It is a bit scary as I seem to have alot of expensive 'sticks' in the garden at the moment. Our peach is flowering like crazy and I have seen Figs and Mulberries putting on leaves and fruit like there is no tomorrow. I guess we will just have to be a bit more paitent with the apples. Here's hoping ! | About the Author Jodie Perth WA 15th October 2009 2:01pm #UserID: 2578 Posts: 28 View All Jodie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Apples seem to be much later than other fruit. My peaches, plums and apricots have finished flowering, but the Gala apple has only put out a few leaves and flower buds. Apples are also very late to lose their leaves, long after everything else, so they seem to have a different timetable. | About the Author Roleystone WA 15th October 2009 2:10pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I'd say, just give it time. It's only a very young tree that grows slowly. This year my pinkabelle is currently full of flowers. Last year however it had barely any. My tree is very thin, so I've supported it alot. Without the support I'm sure my tree would fall over with just two apples. I also am lucky enough to be minding another 10 pinkabelles in pots donated from plantnet. The pinkabelles will be next year in the La Trobe Bendigo Demonstration/Community garden. The pinkabelles in the pots are thicker and shorter than mine. But of the ten, only two have some flowers. So just have faith and give it time. | About the Author Gus1 Bendigo 21st October 2009 9:33am #UserID: 2918 Posts: 22 View All Gus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kreyfish says... Thanks Jimmy. Where did you get the Granny Smith and Crab Apple? I have just bought a Pinkabelle and an Anna for pollination. Craig tells me that I am right on the cusp for chill hours at 450 here in Ipswich so I am crossing my fingers as the Pinkabelle cost me a fortune! I am really interested in other SE Qlders experiences with this apple. | About the Author Kreyfish Ipswich Qld 10th December 2009 4:39pm #UserID: 3093 Posts: 3 View All Kreyfish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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zoedog says... Hi Kreyfish, I bought my Pinkabelle ~18mths ago. It started out in a large self watering pot. 2 apples set but some caterillar/larve? got to them wilst still small. I have since planted it out on east side of the house so it gets a little shade in the afternoon. It still looks a little stick like with only a few spurs with leaves! Once again 2 apples set and then died. But it is flowering again and there appears to be a few small apples. I think I'll have to get the molasses or neem oil out this time. I have also just put in an angel peach and dwarf nectarine to go with the pomegranate. Fingers crossed as I have VERY HEAVY clay soil (you could pot with it), and live under the bat colony flight path. | About the Author zoedog Ipswich Qld 29th December 2009 2:59am #UserID: 3157 Posts: 1 View All zoedog's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Just stumbled upon your forum, and great questions here; I wanted to clear up some questions about winter chill. I grow about 100 varieties of apples in Inland Southern California in the USA where we have very hot summers and warm winters, averaging about 200 hours of chill; citrus is the main crop in the area, but we also grow avocados, bananas, and other sub-tropicals. My nursery specializes in growing apple trees in hot climates and the tropics, and we ship to the African tropic lowlands. We have re-imported apple varieties from the Grove Research Station in Tasmania that originated in the USA in the nineteenth century, but are now extict from cultivation here. Chilling hours for apples will affect it's behavior and timing, but any apple will fruit here. Blossoming will be delayed or extended, but the trees do bear a full load of fruit by the end of the season which extends months past the normal apple season in cold climates. We start out harvesting Anna and Dorsett Golden in June and wrap up with Lady Williams in February, after Anna is already blossoming again. We have grown many apples considered "high chill" such as Northern Spy, Winesap, Honeycrisp, Red Delicious, Arkansas Black, and Gravenstein. Do not let someone tell you that apples will not grow in your area until you actually try it. We heard that for years here in Southern California until somebody who didn't know better actually planted them, and got a ton of apples. Now the quality may not be as good on some varieties, but we've found plenty that are as good or better than when grown in a cold climate. Having a pollinator can affect the fruit quality; Anna is tall and skinny unless pollinated with Dorsett Golden, and the seeds will just be little specks. But when pollinated they get nice and fat, as does Dorsett. However, they blossom months before our Pink Lady does and will not pollinate it. You can see a list of 20 of our favorite apples in a hot climate at http://www.kuffelcreek.com/favorites.htm
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Wayne says... Great posting Applenut, we could well be able to grow apples alongside our Mangoes, how nice would that be. I have never seen an apple tree let alone pick and eat a fresh one nor any of the stone fruits. We just have to put up with mangoes, bananas, pawpaws, pineapples, monsteras, I guess we don't do so bad. | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 7th January 2010 11:28am #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Wayne: Absolutely you can grow apples; check out the annual Apple Fiesta in Borneo, Malaysia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0yW7U_ddQ Dave Wilson Nursery also did a couple of videos on apple growing in a warm climate at my house that you can see at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jwtYhS2Qcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxL1F0I6ltE I see the same thing repeated in hot climates and the tropics all over the world.
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Peter the permie says... Hi Applenut, great to see your post on low chill varities, I noted you got some scion from Grove in Tassie, it has been closed by the Govt on sept 30th 2009 but we are waiting to see what happens with some others who may carry on with its great work. We have lost 3 more Govt research stations this last year. I am one of the founders of the Heritage Fruits Society here in Victoria and I have a personal collection of fruit trees of over 1000 vars now (about 500 of them apples)I have all of the vars you mentioned here, we have fully duplicated what was at Grove, this last winter we adding 312 more vars of apples & pears that I didn't have already, we also produce many trees for sale to go in backyards here in SE Australia, i was amazed you had Bramleys seedling down as growing well for you, my question would be what rootstock do you use and do you believe it assists in giving you the Low chill characteristics as I have never seen that before. I would like to catch up with you in 2010 or 2011 when we come to USA to photograph the NY collection and Canada apples but we are diverting to see other interesting sites. you can contact me direct through www.petethepermie.com if you wish. Regards peter Allen | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 15th January 2010 10:09am #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Peter: We've used M27, Bud. 9, P22, EMLA7, EMLA111, MM106, and seedling rootstocks; they've all fruited fine. A warm climate has a dwarfing effect on apples and I've given up on the smaller ones like M27 and Bud. 9, with M7 serving most needs like espalier and close spacing (one meter apart in the tall spindle orchard) and M111 being the standard semi-dwarf selection. Wooly aphid has reared its ugly head, and so EMLA111 is our recommended favorite, as long as its planted deeply because of aerial burr knots. For growers in the tropics I recommend seedling, spaced 2m x 3m if soil fertility and water allow it. If there is an apple that will not fruit with only 200 chill hours, I have not found it yet. Fruiting is not the problem; quality is. Early fall is blazing hot here, and many varieties ripen in this and either taste like sawdust or a rubber ball; others are impervious to the heat (Bramley) and keep their crunch, juciness, and flavor despite 45C temps. As the season progresses it cools down a bit so early winter-ripening varieties usually do well. Right now I'm waiting for Lady Williams to finally ripen, usually a few days after Dorsett Golden first blooms kicking off the next season. Most people who tell you that an apple will not fruit in a warm climate have never tried; "experts" just quote each other and it becomes standard thinking without someone actually sticking a tree in the ground to see what happens. Sorry to hear about Grove; I'll head over to your website. Applenut | About the Author Applenut California, USA 18th January 2010 4:32pm #UserID: 3203 Posts: 8 View All Applenut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi all, Has anyone tried an Ein Shemer apple? It is a very early season apple apparently bred in Israel like the Anna, and is available in Australia ( http://www.miapple.com.au/ has them). What do they taste like? Thanks, Diana
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Kreyfish says... Thanks Zoedog. I actually dug out 7 cubic metres of clay and sandstone (by jackhammer, shovel and wheel barrow!) and replaced it with 12 cubic metres of organic mix/soil to form a semi raised bed. Applenut, I purchased your ebook and found it extremely informative (and quite humorous - you're a funny bugger!). I am implementing your pruning and training methods now and will follow your instructions as closely as possible. Anyone interested in warm climate apple growing should definitely invest in this book. | About the Author Kreyfish Ipswich Qld 12th February 2010 8:55pm #UserID: 3093 Posts: 3 View All Kreyfish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Other than being bred by Abba Stein, the same breeder as Anna apple, I don't know why Ein Shemer (named after the Kibbutz where Stein worked) exists. It has been touted as a pollinator for Anna, but blossoms two weeks later. Dorsett Golden is far superior in quality and ripens just before Anna, and they pollinate each other wonderfully resulting in nice fat apples. Ein Shemer goes from nasty sour to tasteless sawdust in 20 minutes. Yet I always see tons of them selling at the nursery and home centers; perhaps because folks are looking for a green, tart apple? One does fine here you folks might be familiar with; Granny Smith :) I feel like putting signs out saying "Friends don't let friends plant Ein Shemer". Thanks for the plug Kreyfish! | About the Author Applenut California, USA 23rd February 2010 12:49pm #UserID: 3203 Posts: 8 View All Applenut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Thanks Jimmy, Bit of a coincidence here, I've just been watching some of Kuffel Creek's videos on You Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0e2SuupqCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8XvsmDJfs | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 24th February 2010 9:51am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Charles cant spell says... Brad, my granny smith had 2 fruit on it but they got scorched in the very hot weather earlier. I picked them off a few weeks ago, the plant is now flowering madly again. So I am guessing that if they have no fruit from the first flowers they will go again a few months later. Pretty clever really. My pinkabell has 2 apples and is not in flower at the moment. | About the Author Charlesstillcantspell1 Perth Innaloo 24th February 2010 4:55pm #UserID: 2742 Posts: 411 View All Charlesstillcantspell1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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confused says... I bought my 2 Pinkabelles last winter. They have grown and have a few branches and leaves galore, they have flowered and thats it... no fruit (I would have taken it off anyways) and no losing of leaves. Now some of you are talking about more flowering and fruit and mine are still doing nothing. Shall I take it as I would a child? "let them go and they'll do Also, I was looking at putting some ballerina trees in my backyard as a screen, I thought based on what my pinkabelles have done, they should stay kinda leafy, do they not? Thanks Total non fruitgrowing gardener | About the Author confused Perth 22nd April 2010 8:32pm #UserID: 3640 Posts: 2 View All confused's Edible Fruit Trees |
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confused says... thankyou. I live in Rockingham, so Id have assumed a little chill? never mind, I will pull off late may if they dont do it themselves. I bought two pinkabelles so they would pollinate themselves, but perhaps it isnt working...I really liked the look of the crab apples, so perhaps if I use it as the screen and manually pollinate them with the pinkabelle next time, things will work better? Thankyou again. | About the Author confused Perth 23rd April 2010 10:17pm #UserID: 3640 Posts: 2 View All confused's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Don't worry about the trees not losing their leaves; in a few years they will figure out where they're at and start behaving normally, dropping most of their leaves no matter how little chill you have. I've tried leaving the leaves on and stripping them, and it doesn't seem to make a difference when they blossom or the fruit set I get. One advantage of stripping the leaves by hand is that it gives you a chance to spray with a dormant oil. Also, painting the whole tree white with latex paint thinned 50% with water will help shield the tender bark from the hot Aussie sun. | About the Author Applenut California, USA 25th April 2010 1:35pm #UserID: 3203 Posts: 8 View All Applenut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Itdepends says... They should go fairly pink-red but you can always taste test it now. You may not get much colouration if the fruit isn't getting sunlight. Over here Pink Ladies (full size tree variety of Pinkabelle) have only started ripening in the last few weeks. You should see them ripening over the next 2-4 weeks. I'd be trying one once you start to see a pink blush and see if it tastes ok to you. (mine have only just started colouring up- taste ok but not juicy enough yet). Daniel | About the Author 4th May 2010 2:28pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... Here's a photo of my Pinkabelle after I pulled off the remaining leaves. (we've got a couple cold nights coming up, so I want to catch the chill hours). Its got some really nice branches on the main trunk and a 2nd large branch coming up that I'm not sure what to do with. As far as I can tell the tree is healthy - are there any preventative sprays you'd recommend while dormant? I gave it a couple copper sprays in May before leaf fall. PS the background is a Wurtz avo waiting to go into the ground and the neighbours untended bananas
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liz says... my name is Liz and i own Parkland Garden centre in Picton WA just outside Bunbury just wanted to let you all know we sell lots of different apple varieties including pinkabelle and other dwarf apple varieties as well as dozens of other fruit trees our stock is all available as bare rooted at present and is bagged up once they start to bud up most are priced between 29.95 and 39.95 as bare rooted stock species included peach plum nectarines cherry pomegranate nuts persimmons quince mulberry pears figs olives citrus currents loquat jst name a few you can contact me on 08 97254290 9 to 5 7 days a week cheers Liz | About the Author liz11 bunbury wa 17th June 2010 7:23pm #UserID: 3826 Posts: 1 View All liz11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Itdepends says... Just a comment RE the previous post- Parkland is the best nursery in the Bunbury area if you're after fruit trees- particularly this time of year as they're the only ones with bare root trees. Wandilla/Tass1 trees are good options up in Perth and will have a wider variety- but I generally only make the trip there if I can't get it down here at Bunbury). Daniel | About the Author 20th June 2010 10:54am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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mommaduck says... I just planted a Pinkabelle with 2 Ballerinas (Bolero & Maypole) as a trio. I just finished reading this thread (lucky first read from google)and will be checking in regularly. What are aerial burr knots? I removed a clump of 'things' from the maypole before planting as they looked like a sprout from the rootstock. | About the Author diligentduck Sutherland Shire 31st July 2010 7:00pm #UserID: 4004 Posts: 13 View All diligentduck's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Charles says... I've just planted a pinkabelle pink lady and was told to buy a sundowner as pollinator. They both flower at the right time, but are they an OK pair for pollination? I was leaning towards red delicious but the guy talked me into it. It was only until a few days later did I think that sundowner is a bit of a risk being such a close relative. Any thoughts? | About the Author Charles2 Perth 18th August 2010 6:59pm #UserID: 4112 Posts: 1 View All Charles2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liane says... Woodbridge in Tasmania now sends Apples to WA - quite reasonable as well, picked up 5 @ $26 each, $21 for posting and another $15 for spraying. So $166 for 5 dwarf apple trees. http://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au So there are a few more options for tree's. | About the Author Liane Perth 29th August 2010 11:27am #UserID: 3683 Posts: 4 View All Liane's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jimmy says... At last! Heirloom apples for WA Diggers members WA quarantine restrictions have just been lifted on heirloom apples. This is great news for all of our members in the west, who can now plant their own backyard orchard. Stocks are limited and selling fast so get your order in before plant orders close on Oct 8. Here are some of our favourites: SNOW APPLE This mid-season apple originated in France in the 1600s. Small, sweet and crunchy, the pure white flesh is always popular. Pollinated by Granny Smith or Yates. APPLE STURMER PIPPIN Highly valued for it's juicing qualities, Sturmer can also be eaten fresh, used in cooking or for drying. A late variety that stores well for up to three months. Pick from the tree as late as possible for best developed flavour. Pollinators- Granny Smith and Snow Apple. APPLE OPALESCENT An American variety that prospered under Australian conditions. Originating in Ohio and introduced to the market in 1899, it is a large and sweet mid-season dessert apple with a shiny red skin on the sunny side. Pollinators- Granny Smith or Rome Beauty APPLE GRANNY SMITH Australia's own heirloom apple, being a chance seedling in Mrs Thomas Smith's garden in Ryde NSW in 1860. Bake or bottle, or wait until it turns dull yellow for maximum sweetness. Stores well. Pollinated by Abas or Blue Permain. APPLE GRAVENSTEIN Sweet, tasty and delicious, this apple was first described in 1797. Eat them straight off the tree from February to March, or bottle for use in winter and spring. Fruiting Feb-Mar. (NB, Gravenstein is a triploid flower, so it will not provide viable pollen for other varieties). Pollinator- Abas APPLE ROME BEAUTY A dual purpose late apple that is well-suited to our long hot summers A chance seedling arising from an orchard in upstate New York in 1816. Rome Beauty has large brillant red skin and sweet flesh. A good cooker and a useful keeper. Self fertile, but pollinators are also Snow, Cox's Orange Pippin, Opalescent or Granny Smith for better fruit set. browse our our full range ( | About the Author Jimmy Perth 8th September 2010 2:01pm #UserID: 2548 Posts: 511 View All Jimmy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jacelyn says... Hi My Pinkabelle is doing really well - covered with leaves, blooms and several baby apples already (I'm so excited!). My question is that there seems to be some new growth coming up at the bottom of the stem near the ground. Should I remove this? I don't really understand much about the whole grafting/root stock discussion so I don't know whether I should leave it or not and if I should remove it, how I should do this. I didn't get a chance to take photos last night but I can upload some later tonight if necessary. Any help would be much appreciated! | About the Author Jacelyn Rivervale, WA 10th November 2010 5:16pm #UserID: 2336 Posts: 21 View All Jacelyn's Edible Fruit Trees |
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diligentduck says... Am interested in the answer myself. I have a few sprouts poking through the soil now. I suppose I should go and reread this thread. Now I know what to look for I think I can see the knobbly bits from previous sprouts. ( aerial burr knots? couldn't remember my password for mommaduck)
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diligentduck says... Been searching and found this. Doesn't help me now :( Depth of Planting The proper depth at which to plant apple trees remains a very important issue. With the exception of high density supported systems (slender spindle, vertical axis, etc.), the bud union should be positioned 5 cm above the final soil level. The length of rootstock shank above the soil surface determines the vigour of the scion. This is a greater factor with dwarf than more vigorous rootstocks. To plant deeper may lead to the scion growing roots and the dwarfing influence of the rootstock being lost. To have the union excessively above the ground will reduce the size of the tree and introduces the possibility of burr-knots or aerial roots developing. This disruption in the bark can be invaded by the dogwood borer and lead to tree losses. For consistency of tree size and to reduce unnecessary trunk injury, special care is required to properly position the bud union. http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-007.htm | About the Author diligentduck Sutherland Shire 11th November 2010 2:01pm #UserID: 4004 Posts: 13 View All diligentduck's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jacelyn says... Hahahaha I had to google the words bud union, scion, rootstock shank, burr-knot and aerial root! What can I say... Oops...? hahaha Mine isn't planted 5 cm above the ground lol. I just plonked it in my bigger pot at the same level as what it was from the nursery pot. So.. does that mean I should remove those little growths? Do I just cut them off, or pull them, or? | About the Author Jacelyn Rivervale, WA 11th November 2010 5:00pm #UserID: 2336 Posts: 21 View All Jacelyn's Edible Fruit Trees |
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diligentduck says... Jacelyn, I started another thread and got a reply here. https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/aerial-burr-knots/ | About the Author diligentduck Sutherland Shire 11th November 2010 9:34pm #UserID: 4004 Posts: 13 View All diligentduck's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kerri says... Hi I'm so excited I have apples on my Pinkabelle, it has only taken 2 years I was just about to give up. I'm excited, Now what do I do? It is in a pot out the front? What do i feed it? Spray on it to heep of the bugs? What else do I need to know. Also my other fruit trees I have, lemon, manderine and dwarf peach which has heaps of fruit I've never seen so much on them since I've had them. I took off about 2/3rds on the peach. :-) | About the Author kerri secret harbour 15th November 2010 11:26pm #UserID: 1000 Posts: 5 View All kerri's Edible Fruit Trees |
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wazzamcg says... I own a pinkabelle, a sundowner and a fuji - the last two are on dwarfing rootstock M26. The good news is that I have 4 fruit set on my pinkabelle - I live on the southside of Brisbane (Eight Mile Plains) and there was some doubt whether pinkabelle would fruit in our climate. I have been reading this thread for sometime and thought I would give it a go. For the record, the sundowner flowered first (mid sept), then pinkabelle (mid oct) - I am yet to see the fuji flower even though it is healthy. I bought the pinkabelle from Birchgrove nursery Mt.Tamborine and it was about 6 feet tall - that would have been 15 months ago, I planted it out early/mid winter this year as I wanted it settled into the ground before spring (pictures 2,3,4). The other two apple trees were bought from Woodbridge Fruit Trees in Tasmania, I had to order in advance (February) and they arrived by post in great condition (mid Winter), though they were leafless and branchless and about 3ft high - now they are 7ft. One week after getting them I planted them out either side to the pinkabelle. Woodbridge Fruit Trees were very helpful in the selection I made. (Sundowner are pictures 5&6) and (Fuji is picture 7). Within a few weeks of planting out the trees we were getting leaves and flowers. Each apple tree recieved a couple of good spadefuls of diatomaceous earth, homemade compost and a mix of a quality potting mix and the red sandy loam the soil came from to make the hole. The pictures taken are about 4~5 months after the trees were planted. Every month or so I sprayed the plants, via the packet directions, a mixture of eco-oil and mancozeb plus. I never fertilised intially, however, after a couple of months they started getting their share of the worm wee generated out of the wormfarm. I will probably put up an 8ft espalier over the next few months and order a couple more apple tree's in February from Woodbridge Farm - I'm thinking a pink lady and a lady williams. The family only eat reddish apples. Just behind the apple trees I have garlic and onion chives growing and about 10 feet away I have a good assortment of herbs growing in polystyrene brocolli boxes. Most are the edible type and a few for beneficial insects (picture 1). I am looking forward to next spring as these young trees will be even more established. I would really appreciate any advice that may seem obvious from my comments and pictures. Thanks.
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wazzamcg says... I saw a picture once, I think Bob Mangus (apple guru) was in it, anyway, the logic was to get the young branch growing horizontal to promote fruiting rather than leaves and height. Those young branches are delicate and it seemed a good idea to get them started horizontal at the critical point to the trunk - wish I had thought of it. If you google on espalier for apple trees I believe you will get a better answer on why you want the branches horizontal or maybe someone from here could. | About the Author wazzamcg Brisbane 4th December 2010 6:26pm #UserID: 4149 Posts: 101 View All wazzamcg's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... I'd completely forgotten about the horizontal branch thing! I think when I heard it I wasn't growing fruit trees, so the info got tucked away. Information retrieval is getting harder these days! I'm curious - why the diatomaceous earth in the hole? I only know it as a pesticide, so I can't imagine what it would do in the soil. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 4th December 2010 6:51pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... Dunno Amanda. I was kinda asking. Kuffel creek (applenut) says some varieties can crop twice. I certainly won't let mine do that at this stage. Wazza thanks for your post. Im sure lots of people are curious about apples in brissie. look around on this site, maybe even this thread and you'll see advice (from jimmy?) on thinning apple clusters. Next time don't leave 4 apples in one group. It produces small apples and leaves hiding places for pests. Another thing - don't rush to give up on the Fuji -applenut's book says they can take a little longer to start to flower | About the Author Brad2 G hill,Perth 4th December 2010 8:17pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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wazzamcg says... The main reason why I put diatomaceous earth into the surrounding soil prior to planting was because; 1. It has a high content of silica and that helps (apparently) to release/unlock phosphorus within the soil that helps health and growth. That has to be a good thing. 2. Water-retention capacity of the soil - I'm fairly sure a kitty litter called Kleensorb would do the same thing. It's diatomaceous earth as well, but lighter and white in colour. 3. I recognised the small sharp pebbles in the potting mix (ochre & brownish) when I bought the pinkabelle and thought the if the guru's did it so why shouldn't I. Apparently you must be careful not to inhale any of dust when handing it - not that I saw any, I wet it down anyway to be on the safe side. It is suppose to be a slow release form of silica. The diatomaceous earth I thought I had recognised when I purchased my pinkabelle was very similar to a product called Maidenwell All Purpose Silica. I'm fairly sure it's the silica that the bonsia people chase. I think the Kleensorb would do a similar job and probably cheaper. I re-call seeing a bonsai apple tree with one full grown apple on it. Brad - thanks for the heads up the 4 head cluster, if it doesn't work this year I will learn for next year ;-) | About the Author wazzamcg Brisbane 4th December 2010 9:12pm #UserID: 4149 Posts: 101 View All wazzamcg's Edible Fruit Trees |
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wazzamcg says... I have found their web site; http://maidenwelldiatomiteaustraliaptyltd.vpweb.com.au/ I bought it at a large nursery - not a Bunnings as such. Having said that, if you ring around or order it, some may have it. Cross your fingers and hope there might be a mine handy that is close to you. If not, check the information on kitty litters at those jumbo pet centres - look for words like soil conditioner and then do a google on the product to see what it is. I imagine WA can dry plants out fast like Brisbane so it would do two main things for you - supply silica and the ability to hold moisture. The Kleensorb (kitty litter) I was talking about which seem to be a very similar product though a different colour - their website can be found here; http://www.mtsylviadiatomite.com.au/diatomite-products/kleensorb/ If you asked me how much I would put in? and I'm no horticulturalist - I would say 5%. I used probably 3 litres in volume to a good wheel barrow. Furthermore, if you are looking for a slow release potassium boost, have a research on granite crusher dust at 5% also (cheap for long term benefits) ;-) - it will not help on water retention though. Some time ago, I had read books from authors Ester Dean's - "Growing without Digging" and Alec Bulford's - "Caring for Soil" and basically, I have been hooked on my own soil since. Especially for a potassium fix, ion exchange ability, water holding capacity and organic NPK fertilisers. Hope this helps. | About the Author wazzamcg Southside Brisbane QLD 6th December 2010 9:37pm #UserID: 4149 Posts: 101 View All wazzamcg's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Applenut says... Wazza; Fuji is notorious for taking about 5 years to start to fruit; you may get onsie-twosies a few years, but bears heavily and reliably after that. Some people get discouraged and pull it out right before it really starts to let loose. You will have no problems getting apples to fruit in your climate.
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Jacelyn says... Just wondering if someone could give me some advice - some of the leaves on my pinkabelle have started turning yellow. They fall off when you touch them. I didn't know if it was a disease or something but I have been removing 3 or 4 of these leaves every day for the past couple of days. The tree has approx 20 apples so I don't want to remove too many leaves or cause it stress! Anybody have any idea what could be causing this? I water it at least every other morning, and every morning when temperatures are high (the tree is on a windy balcony and though well mulched, I worry the hot coastal winds would dry it out quickly). I don't know if any of this background will make any difference, but I repotted it (it had been over 2 years) last winter, moved house about a week ago, watered it with seasol Saturday morning (but I have been applying seasol regularly for as long as I have had the tree) and my dwarf granny smith/red fuji had similar yellow leaves, and (tho this may not be related) my miniature rose and hibiscus also has some yellow leaves (though the hibiscus only had one). Could it be a nutrient deficiency thing, or some kind of disease? The leaves turn yellow from the base but the edges are bordered a dark green then brown (presumably from windburn) and the leaves fall off the tree very easily. Any help is much appreciated. | About the Author Jacelyn Scarborough WA 5th December 2011 12:47pm #UserID: 2336 Posts: 21 View All Jacelyn's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jimmy says... Dude those apples will never grow in Kamlbada, and you need to contact Daleys direct not the forum for answers. try www.tass1trees.com.au if you are really desperate he has them cheep. | About the Author 27th February 2012 12:47pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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