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Gardener starts with ...
We've just had a taste of a pummelo and found it to be very sweet. Does anyone know where you can buy this tree is Melbourne, or even it is possible for it to grow in Melbourne. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Gardener,

I have a 10 years old pumelo, white variety bought in Garden World and 5 meter tall now.

Very productive tree that I have to thin them out in early stage of fruit development. Still I pick about 100 fruits per year and due to water restriction those fruits used to have the size of a rock melon but no water (just rain water) and they are now the size of normal grapefruit.

They are sweet if you leave them in the kitchen bench for a month but still a bit after taste of tangy so I am not sure if because of not enough water or not enough heat.

Ten years ago the taste at the time was the same as now but much colder then. My tree has no fruit now that why I have not updated my edible page but will do so when they are in fruit.

I am going to experiment by covering some of the fruits in black plastic bag. Scientifically, the black colour absorbs more heat. Will they be sweeter?. The answer remains to be seen.
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Michael says...
Hi There,
I love eating pummelos and I currently have 3 trees with 2 in the ground and 1 in a large pot.They are quite small but the one in the pot is blooming with lot's of flowers right now.
Pummelos are the hardest citrus tree to grow in Australia as our climate is not hot enough for the fruit to turn sweet. You can get fruits but need constant heat all year round to turn the fruits sweet. Regardless I'm still going to try growing my own tree .I got 2 of my trees from Daleys - The Dwarf Nam Roi variety. I tried this variety in Vietnam and it was the best tasting pummelo I ever tried.

Hi Nguyet - I would love to see pictures of your tree when it is in fruits.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,

Your chance to have sweet pumelo is much higher than mine because Sydney is much warmer than Melbourne.

If you give your trees some potash at flowering time and some water but not too much then you will get big and sweet fruits. I may be able to get away with the "after taste" problem.

I have posted only some of my trees in my edible page, I will list more when they are in fruits.

My pumelo has started to produce lot of flowers. I pick some blossoms and save them in water and freeze it. When I make any thing got to do with citrus blossum water I get some clear water from the frozen container for my recipes.
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Cuong says...
HiJujube and Michael,

I have experienced the same thing with my parents pomelo.

It tastes sweeter if picked and left for sometime before eating it then if you it it straight off the tree.

I think you can have a sweet pomelo in Australia, ours is almost there I think if we change our fertiliser program it will be sweet this year...
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Cuong,

Perth is also much warmer than Melbourne so I guess your parents ' pumelo don't have after taste like mine.
I did try one more thing is Epsom salt when fruits are about orange size but I think in southern states we don't have enough heat for the fruits to be ripen properly.
As an experience person in the field of agriculture, Do you have any suggestion for improving the taste of this fruit?
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Gardener says...
Hi All

Thanks for your input, I will try Gardenworld to see if they have a tree and by the sounds of it, keep it in a pot.

Thank you
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Cuong says...
We are commercial hydroponic produce growers and our fruit trees are just a hobby - so we arent too experienced with them as such

Jujube - are your fruits dry at all? I think the best thing you can do is to check your soil PH and make sure it is within the optimal range.

PH can affect the plants ability to take up its nutrients so if its not correct nutrient defficiency and the taste could be affected too

Yes Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate)is used to "sweeten" citrus trees, also make sure you use potassium too as this improves the fruit quality and yield
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Cuong,

Many thanks. My fruits are juicy. I apply epsom salt and potash every year. The only thing I have not done is checking the PH. that is a good point. I will do so soon.
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amanda says...
Hi Jujube - if u are really keen u could try supplying more heat? eg rocks/blocks around base of tree to absorb heat and then release when cooling..also a reflective surface like zinc alume sheets?
Some phosphorus may also help with building sugar content - if nitrogen too high and phosphorus low then acidity of juice more likely (according to my research)
The black plastic bag is a novel idea! You may need to provide ventilation though as the fruit might sweat and get fungal problems. Good abstract thinking Jujube! :)
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Amanda,

Many thanks for the hints. Much appreciated.

I have some spare rocks around my pond so I am going to remove some and place them underneath the tree.

Also good point about ventilation, I will have to punch lots of holes on the black plastic bags otherwise those fruits will get cooked due to summer heat.

I will certainly apply some Phosphorus too.

It is realy pity that the tree is beautiful and very productive but I have unpleasant taste after eating the fruits.


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Michael says...
My Pumelo ( Bien Hoa ) in a large pot with flowers blooming.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,

Yours are very healthy. Good luck to the fruiting bit. I hope yours are good to eat.
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jonah says...
Can anyone share some information of how to get pomelo and pommrgranite trees inj perth plrease?? Desperate to get some and I will be greatful if anyone can help>...


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VLR says...
I don't know about pummelo but I did get a pomegranate tree from Lena Nursery, Wangara last summer for my Dad. It was the only nursery in my area that stocked pomegranate trees at the time. The healthiest plant I could find was still a bit burnt but it's really taken off now. The label said the variety was "Elite" but I think it was a typo and it's actually "Elcite". They only sold ones of that variety. Try calling your local nurseries if Wangara's out of your way. Some of the other nurseries I contacted led me to believe they sometimes have pomegranate trees in but had sold out. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to order one in for you. They grow well in Perth.
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Shaun says...
Joe at Tass-1-Trees in Baskerville (near Swan Valley in Perth) has got Pummelo .....
and rather cheap too .....
I got mine 1 plant from him .....
only cost me $10.00 1 year ago.
However, my tree is not doing too well, .... it is in a rather shady spot .... may have to move it to get more sun & heat after reading the above posts.
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Damo says...
was there today, he has new stock purchased after the auction last month.
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Shaun says...
City Farm (the organic farm next to Claisebrook train station) has 1 Pummelo plants for sale in its nursery .... so hurry if you want it !
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Shaun says...
Hi VLR,
Big W garden centre in Bunbury Forum has a large Pummelo plant with lots of flowers (some small fruits and good amount of leaves) for sale for only $19.95 !!!
There is only 1 plant left ..... you have to be quick !

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Michael says...
My Pummelo tree lost all it's flowers and fruit. Not a single fruit made it to maturity. How disappointing!
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Shaun says...
Well, with the recent cold nights and hot days in Perth, my Pummelo plant has dropped all its leaves and gone dormant again !!

Pummelo is a very tropical citrus, and loves hot climate.
If you get a sudden cold spell, it can drop its leaves, flowers and fruits and go into dormancy.
I was told to grow Pummelo in a hot green house until it is established, before moving the pot to outdoors.

I thought I could let my small Pummelo plant acclimatise outdoors, but it seems like I was wrong :-|
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Binwa says...
Hey,

I have a 2 years old Pomelo now, but I'm doubting if I give it enough water. Does the earth in the pot to be wet at all times ? Are there periods when you have to give more or less water. Thx for your advice.

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Jennifer says...
Does anyone know where you can buy pomelo in Brisbane? And when is the pomelo season?

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Diana says...
Hi Jennifer,

I got mine from Daley's. If you don't want it in the post, you could try edible landscapes.

Mine is flowering now. I treat it like the other citrus. It is a tropical plant, so I suppose flowering in summer is normal?

Diana.
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Matthew says...
I grew one from seed that was from a pomelo I bought at the Markets. They are for sale at some Bunnings and Mitre 10 stores.
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Matthew says...
I lived in Thailand for 2 years. I ate lots of pomelos there. They were very sweet and very refreshing. The pomelos over there were pink inside.Pink was the more expensive type. In Brisbane they can be sweet with some bitterness.
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Michael says...
Hi Jujube and Cuong,

Does your Pomelo get attack from fruit flies? My Pomelo in a pot has managed to set 8 fruits about the size of an orange for the first time. I never thought fruit fly was a problem for them due to the thick skin but this morning I manage to squash a QLD fruit fly just sitting on one fruit.


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chris says...
Michael,
Citrus are not the preferred host for QFF, but they'll go for it if there is nothing else around (ie. tomatoes and stone fruit).
Not that I would wait to find out, but given the thick rind and the rind oils, these would kill many eggs and larvae. Citrus are most at risk when ripe fruit are left on the trees. That's the battle I have with my neighbours neglected tree.
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Michael says...
Thanks Chris . I'm not leaving it to chances and have bag mine with mesh bags .I just hope it's not too late . I'm getting so much QLD fruit flies in my 3 wild may traps . Last count was more than 50 in each trap in just a week. I don't even have fruits yet so I don't know where they are coming from .
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Adam T says...
Hi everyone. I planted some yellow pomelo seeds 14 years ago as a child. Most of the seedlings i gave away, and i planted one for myself next to a north facing wall. Today (16/4/2011) as i was picking some limes i spotted something 'sitting' on the bathroom window ledge. Turns out it was a rock-melon sized pomelo and it's not even ripe. I've been patient for a long time and frankly i forgot all about the tree, using the thorny branches to keep the possums from climbing other fruit trees. Today's been a pleasant surprise.

Tips: All i can say is that the plant likes a hot position. Mine is surrounded by 10m2 of pavement and it's directly in front of a north facing wall. Never gets frost, but sometimes gets dew. Planted in shallow sandy loam, over solid mudstone rock that begins at 50cm depth. The plant is happy, as tall as the gutter,incredibly lush and so dense i didn't even spot the fruit. It never gets watered unless there's rain (the pavement collects a lot of water that remains in the shallow soil). Hope this helps. Good luck everyone!
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Looks great Adam, even makes us in the subtropics jealous!
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Tim@Moss Vale says...
Can anybody tell me where to get a pomelo tree in NSW. I would prefer a dwarf variety. If not are seeds available.
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I am currently growing dwarf varieties of Washington orange, a Seville orange for marmalade, Grapefruit, mandarins, lemons and two varieties of apple. All are grown in Half wine barrels on wheels. I move them under cover in winter and surround them with hesian to keep the frost and wind at bay.There is an irrigation system connected to each tub and I plan to install a 3000L rain tank to provide all year round water.Regular attention to fertiliser and iron chilates keeps the healthy.
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Mike says...
Pomelos are a bit like grapefruit in that the hotter the climate the sweeter the fruit.I agree that nam roi is a very good type but not quite like the Thai one with a slight pink tinge.I planted a tree a couple of months ago and chose Chandlers Red over Nam Roi even though I haven't tried a chandlers red.Has anyone tasted fruit of this variety?
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Tim@Moss Vale says...
Thanks Mike for the information but you do not say where to obtain the seeds or Dwarf plants. It is hard to find in NSW but I plan to keep the plants mobile in wheeled half barrels so they are protected in the winter
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JK says...
I plannted my Pommelo about 2.5 years back. Got it from Mitre 10. Its about 6 feet tall. With new leaves last 2 springs.. but no flowers yet.. Is something wrong?
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Mike says...
Tim as pommelos are such large trees I don't know how well they are suited to dwarfing or flying dragon rootstock.Some of the seedlings in Thailand must be over 15m and grafted older types can also be large.Nearly all fruit have seeds and it is just a matter of getting a fruit.They are probably around Cairns at the moment.
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Tim@Moss Vale says...
Thanks mike I will try a specialist fruit market to see if they are available. Might try to graft on to a dwarf greapefruit and see what happens.
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Loma says...
I am in Brisbane. Had heaps of fruit on tree this year but overnight possums ate the lot.
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Tim@Moss Vale says...
Still no luck with locating either pommelo seeds or fruit. Can anybody for the top end send some seeds from their fruit? I will pay postage.
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Loma says...
Hi Tim, I bought my Pommelo tree from Bunnings last year.
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Pom says...
I was trying to find pomelo fruit in Melbourne for some time but noone seems to stock it.
Any ideas as to where could I find it?
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Asian groceries, more likely larger ones, or those streets/suburbs where there are a lot of SE Asian shops. Just start at one end of the street and keep searching. Also Vic markets,if they still have stalls selling tropical fruit.
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Michael says...
Hi Tim,

Pomelo can grow and fruit pretty well in pots .Check out the thread below .I had 8 huge pomelos from my small tree in a pot . The Nam Roi variety from Vietnam is famous for it's sweetness and no seeds .Daley has them as a dwarf variety which i have a few plants . If you want to go for a drive then head down to Canley Vale where there is an Asian nursery that stocks heaps of pomelo especially Nam Roi . They are around $40 - $45 each I think . The nursery is a the corner of Canley Vale road and Phelps St . They stock alot of other Asian plants as well .

https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/fruit-trees-growing-in-pots-successfully/
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Tony says...
Some body please tell me, is it Pummelo tree?

I had 12 yrs old tree, 14 ft tall, grow from seed, never flowers or fruits.

Now, I believe that it will never had fruit if it grows from seed as pro said.
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Looks a lot like pummelo, are you sure it was grown from pummelo seed? Seems to have a lot of small pointy juvenile leaves, an adult fruiting(grafted tree) tree would large rounder leaves.
12 years should have seen it produce some fruit or flowers by now, it looks big enough, but still seems thorny and juvenile in many ways
Not sure what the "citrus pro" told you but most Citrus will fruit ok from seed,some types will be identical to parent, other types will be variable.
There is a chance yours is a crossed seedling, or an off type seedling which may not be a good fruiter.
As it is growing well for you, you may consider grafting some(or all) of the limbs over to Pummelo varieties.
Try posting your question on this Citrus forum,they have members in Texas and grafting advice.
http://citrus.forumup.org/index.php?mforum=citrus
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Tony says...
Hi Jakfruit etiquette,

I am not sure the seed is pummelo or not as it was giving from mother-in-law. She had a same tree 14yrs old still no fruits too.

This is what I randomly tried during the last 5yrs as I am running out patient:

take off 70% leaves, drill holes in trunk and branches, hit trunk with baseball bat, cut down some branches, put "fruit tree" fertilizer spikes but no luck.

Last year as run out option, I cut down the tree and leave only trunk about 5ft but it grows back healthy as you see at the picture above.

I will upload more leaves picture, hope this help what you are talking about. I am air layer them now(a month ago).

I will try the Citrus forum as your advice. Again, thanks for your response.

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jakfruit etiquette says...
The leaves are big, with big petioles,like pummelo.Are the leaves scented,pummelo are not too strong, slightly perfumy. Another possibility is sour orange, if leaf has earl grey tea scent, or macrophylla, if it is lemon scented? Both these are used as rootstocks in USA
Cutting it back is just going to cause more upright thorny growth
Is your mom in law's tree the same kind of spiky upgight looking shape??
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Tony says...
The time she give to me the tree about 3 inches high. her tree is same as mine, look very healthy, 14 to 16ft tall.
Now, I am listing my question on the forum as your advice for help. Thanks again for your advice.
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Becky says...
My one pummelo from my dwarf tree has finally turned yellow. I think it was green on the tree for about 2 years ?? there were two fruits on the tree, I accidentally knocked the smaller one off last year. hummm. I wonder if it will be good to eat? or how long I need to leave it on? Its only about 3' high, I planted it as a screen to keep kids off the fence, and have pretty much ignored it, watering it 3 times a season?? please advise. Thanks
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Linton says...
Can Pummelo be grown in Melbourne?

I tried to order this fruit tree from Daleys but they informed me that it is the most tropical of all citrus and cannot be grown in Melbourne.

So I would like to know if anyone is growing it here and actually getting it to produce good fruit in Melbourne. Thanks.
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jakfruit etiquette says...
A grafted tree will grow, but few cultivars will produce ok fruit. Even the 2 Citrus research stations in Mildura area ( Merbein and Dareton ) grew several known kinds, but most were quite sour in that climate. There are more cold suitable types, not sure if they are here yet.
Oroblanco(sweetie) is a grapefruitXpummelo, pretty close to a white type/sweet GF.
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Linton says...
Hi Jakfruit

I'm sure you're right, they would be very difficult to grow and produce fruit here, even though some local nurseries do stock them.

But I don't understand Daleys cold ratings on their shopsite. They have sent me some plants which are rated as very sensitive to cold, whereas the Pummelos they wouldn't send were rated as medium which indicates they should be more cold tolerant. Anyone know why this is?

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Thithi says...
Hi Linton, i do have a pummelo seedling grown in melbourne. It seem to be quite cold hardy. It could be 5 or 6 year old. My pummelo have not produced any fruit yet. I did not take care of it very much so it is very small and short. But its mother tree was in the backyard of my sister"s neighbor in st. Albans. According to my sister who tried its fruits, the pummelos was sweet. However about 2 year agos, my sister neighbor pummelo tree suddenly died for some unknown reason.
Anyway my pummelo seems to cope with the cold better than the sun.
So long story short, pummelo can be grown and fruit in Melbourne
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Tricia Lanc. says...
Hi
Just noticed my pomelo tree has lots of very tiny flowers. (11/8/2017.)
Last year it had flowers and then minute fruit which shrivelled and dropped.
Any ideas how to hang on to the fruit please? Tricia
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mcmelb1 says...
On a trip to Qiandaohu, China, I remember there was a pink fleshed pomelo tree with sweet tasting fruit growing on one of the islands.
It gets colder there in winter than we get here in Melbourne!
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Hi mcmelb 1, Australia mainly has the tropical S E Asian pummelos which are great in Darwin and Cairns etc but produce sourish fruit further south.
Like you saw in China, Japan also has local pummelos ie Buntan or Zabon, even in Tokyo, which has a more humid summer but colder winter than Melbourne.
There are many types of Pummelo.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Tricia,

It's considered normal for most citrus trees to drop 98% of all their blooms and only 2% will ever going to develop as a fruit, but if those 2% is still dropping then it will cause a concern for the gardener. Here are some reasons why all citrus blossoms and fruitlets drop:
1. Improper irrigation - fruit trees in the blooming stage require very special attention in connection with soil moisture - they should never be allowed to stress for moisture but not overwatered. Install an automatic irrigation system for more uniform and consistent watering schedule.
2. High temperature, heavy rain and low humidity - sudden change in temperature and heavy rain during flowering and fruit set also causes blossom and fruit drop. Environmental factors that we cant control. To increase humidity during flowering and fruit set incorporate a mist sprinkler with your irrigation system.
3. Improper or lack of fertilization regime - prior to flowering (late winter) fertilize your fruit tree with citrus fert. If the leaves are yellowing apply epsom salt as well to correct the deficiency. After a month fortify the fruitlets with a sulphate of potash fert with a sprinkling of guano (natural phosphorus). Water soluble is better. Drench the leaves and soil for best result.
Happy Gardening :-)
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