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| About the Author Thithi Deer park 11th July 2014 2:32pm #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Hi Thithi I've been looking for this one for a long time also but so far no luck. The purple ones all died that I tried to grow in Melbourne and it's one of my favourite fruits. What we need is someone to make a dwarf star apple so it can be grown in a pot and taken inside over winter. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 13th July 2014 9:23am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 13th July 2014 9:52am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Thithi says... Linton, sorry to hear that your purple star apples had died. My favorite fruit is also star apple. Daleys are currently 'seeking propagation material' for the Philippine gold. Lol, could it be that Daley is looking for SA seeds to sow? Have you seen green SA fruits sold in Australia at all? I only saw the purple ones. I don't like the purple color at all! | About the Author Thithi Deer park 13th July 2014 10:02am #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Yes, Daleys have been seeking propagation for the Philippine Gold for many years but never seemed to achieve it. I believe that there are some other green varieties of Star Apples sold in the markets in Cairns. Hi Sternus, I would be happy to try a Grimal here on the off chance it can be grown successfully, thanks! | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 13th July 2014 10:23am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 13th July 2014 10:31am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Thithi says... Hi sternus1, Is your Grimal green same as daleys grimmel? Does Daley misspell the cv or are they two different varieties? Have your star apple tree produced any fruit for you yet? How old is your tree or trees? (I assume that if you have one to give away, you must have more than one SA) I am asking too many question? :-) I guess I can ask, it's up to you to answer or not Cheers | About the Author Thithi Deer park 13th July 2014 10:54am #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... Thithi Adolf Grimal only ever developed A Green variety of star apple, as far as I'm aware of. Since the variety Daleys sells is purple, this is not a true Grimal. Grimal is spelled Grimal. Daleys also sell a fingerlime variety labelled as Rick's red which isn't the real Rick's red. They'll pretty much sell anything, it appears, without verifying whether or not it is the genuine article or not. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 13th July 2014 11:07am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Thithi Deer park 13th July 2014 11:17am #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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The poster formerly known as... says... There are greens, bronzes, pinks, golds and silvers in OZ. One that might suit further south is the pink, which is really a different species. It's a much smaller tree than the regular ones and the fruit are a out half the size, single seeded and super sweet, like star apple crossed with condensed milk. All star apple close relatives have very deep roots, so not ideally suited to pots, but the smaller pink ones seem to grow pretty well in a very big pot. Seems more cold hardy than the others. There is a cutting grown variety up north called Pearl something or other. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 13th July 2014 7:58pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Thithi Deer park 14th July 2014 7:38am #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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The poster formerly known as... says... I might be able to get seeds of seedlings of the pink, which is the same as Juicy Pearl, in season. A friend has a nice one. I planted mine in a bad spot and had to move it, damaging the deep roots in the process. It is still growing well and is never bothered by 5 degree starts, but does need more water than the standard ones I have, probably mostly due to the damaged roots though. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 14th July 2014 2:39pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike Tr says... Juicy pearl is C.argentium var.auratum so is a different species.Grimal green is one of 3 or 4 green varieties of true starapple in Australia and is not the best.There are reds,philipine gold and various purples.The dwarf Taiwanese yellow star apple appears to be another subspecies of C.argentium.Haitian is probably the poorest quality. | About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 14th July 2014 3:45pm #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael D says... I have killed two Grimmal and 1 Phillipines Gold from Daleys and 1 Green variety from the local nursery at Canley Vale but I will never give up trying to grow a Star Apple tree in Sydney.(Also killed 3 Jackfruit trees from Daley and hopefully the fourth in the ground right now with survive) | About the Author Michael D wakeley 29th October 2014 9:09pm #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael D says... Hi Mark Ive only tried growing the crisp varieties .Tweed Crisp,Picone Crisp twice and currently growing Galaxy .I believe Black Gold is a soft flesh variety.The reason I kept trying is that Ive seen Jackfruit trees with fruits in a few backyards in my area so it gives me hope.Ive been told there is a fruiting star apple tree in Guildford in Sydney so this is the reason I kept trying to grow one. | About the Author Michael D wakeley 29th October 2014 11:00pm #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Thithi Deer park 29th October 2014 11:28pm #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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The poster formerly known as... says... I think the only place you'll get a veg prop Juicy Pearl is through Peter Saleras and Trinas nursery. They have done cutting grown plants previously. Seedlings are much easier to get and are a separate species so will almost always grow true to type anyway. They have great stuff, but good luck getting it. You pretty much have to pre arrange a road trip to get the good stuff... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 30th October 2014 2:14pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... yes, not all caimito are created equal especially in terms of how well they do outside of the tropics. Greens and purples can do well in Brisbane but Juicy Pearl is unknown to me in terms of performance here. They are an ok fruit, but I wouldn't preference them over other subtropical bearers like rollinia. I can send you the juicy pearl I have thithi but I can make no guarantees as to how well it will do for you, unchartered territory for me at least. I doubt anyone else outside of the tropics has one fruiting, but maybe somebody will surprise me and chip in. I have no idea where deer park is. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 30th October 2014 2:43pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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The poster formerly known as... says... There are fruiting 'JP' seedling trees in Capalaba. It was recommended as being more suited to sub tropics than most others, but NSW and VIC are another thing entirely. My one piece of advice is to not try to re-plant once you put them in ground. The roots grow extremely quickly and deep and if you dig them up you will cut off some of the pioneer roots and it will take a good year or two for the plant to regain anything like its original vigour. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 30th October 2014 3:25pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Thithi MELBOURNE,3000,VIC 30th October 2014 3:31pm #UserID: 10139 Posts: 193 View All Thithi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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The poster formerly known as... says... Driving between Townsville and cairns can be quite fruitful. Bruno in Innisfail might be a good stop. I think the Borneo Collection is pretty much wiped out now? Botanic Ark further north is worth a stay over if you can afford it. Then there is Scomazzons up north and the place in Cape Trib. Those are the more popular ones. Local RFC might be able to help out with friendly local growers | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 31st October 2014 8:54pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MIke T1 says... David talk to me in a couple of months.Juicy pearl is Chrysophyllum argentium subspecies auratum so is not really a starapple.They are good but there is true greatness around. DPI Gold and alva are really the cream of the Chrysophyllum crop and true starapples.
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Manfred says... Hey Bang- how much room do you have. If you can fit both in, why not have both. If you can't, then the juicy pearl would definitely be the one to have. (I couldn't get one today, but Trina is putting my name on one for later. I saw the trees in the orchard, and they seem to be bearing about as much as the purples. Even if they didn't, how much star apple can anyone eat? I had a branch come down on one of my trees from weight of fruit last Friday, and my other tree is my sacrificial fruit-bat feeder tree. Unfortunately, the fruit-bat diversion theory isn't working.) | About the Author Manfred tully 1st September 2015 12:08pm #UserID: 9565 Posts: 243 View All Manfred's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... To Thithi and others in Melbourne trying to grow star apples. I have tried growing various Chrysophyllum species here as the usual type of Star Apples have never survived. The only one that has kept growing throughout Winter and remained unscathed is Chrysophyllum imperiale. That's hardly surprising when you consider that there are 3 of these plants growing in Melbourne's Royal Botanic Gardens. I happened to stumble upon one of them about a year ago when walking in the gardens which prompted me to try growing it. The down side is that the seeds are hard to come by and the tree may take many years to reach fruiting maturity. But the good part is that, unlike Star Apples, Chrysophyllum imperiale is easy to grow, extremely hardy, and shown to be well adapted to the climate down here. Picture of fruit of Chrysophyllum imperiale.
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Linton says... Hi Thithi I haven't tried the fruit of Chrysophyllum imperiale so can't really comment about that. What I meant to say was that I decided to try to grow a plant, not to try eating a fruit, although I would have if one was available for eating. The tree I saw in the gardens was still small, probably less than a metre high and wide and bushy with large leaves, but there were no fruit on it. But it was growing in an open clearing so it indicates that it should be very suitable for growing here in Melbourne. It's a rare plant but definitely worth giving a go if you can find some seeds online. They come up from time to time Cheers!. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 10th September 2015 8:19pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Linton - looks an amazing plant with the new golden growth flush - about when do they ripen & what is your opinion on taste or comparison with other fruits. Missed ThiThi's post before and comment From what i read on Sydneys BGs site there are 3 there and one is pretty old and should have fruit - like over 100 years old planted by a Royal in 1868. https://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/education/Resources/BABQ/Tree_Truths?SQ_DESIGN_NAME=printer_friendly | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 10th September 2015 8:43pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Never tasted one and don't know when is the season. Think it would be impossible to find a fruit of Chrysophyllum imperiale in Melbourne as they are not under commercial cultivation and the trees in the gardens are probably still too young. The old tree in Sydney should bear fruit though. Cheers! | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 11th September 2015 1:05pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Bangkok thailand 11th September 2015 4:56pm #UserID: 11594 Posts: 370 View All Bangkok's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Chrysophyllum imperiale. If anyone got the Spring edition of Diggers Magazine there is a short excerpt about this plant. During an interview with Tim Entwisle, the director of the Melbourne Royal Botanic Gardens, when asked about his top ten favourite plants, Chrysophyllum imperiale came in number 2! It would be great if Daleys could grow some of these so they would be more readily available to us. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 19th October 2015 8:45pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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