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Taking orders now for giant cherimoya ( rosa)

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sternus1 starts with ...
Will have about 50 seeds to disperse, 20 of which will be going to Linton so that leaves thirty ( unless he doesn't want them).

Rosa cherimoya weigh 1.5 kg.

No cost, free. People I know and owe given priority.
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Linton says...
Hi Sternus,

Yes! That's highly generous of you and more than I probably need. But there's a few people down here I would like to share them around. Great, thanks!
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srt says...
Dear Sternus , I have included you in my will. The least you can do is send me some seed.
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sternus1 says...
No need to thank me Linton, it was the stuff you sent me that allowed me to trade for them. Fruit are huge and look like a smooth version of an African pride custard Apple.
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allybanana says...
I will be interesting to see if these seeds grow true. Daleys is advertising this variety as a seedling in propergation. Possibly some A. reticulata parantage is there any evidence for this? Sounds like a lot of fun, if there are any spare I would greatfully try a few at the local community garden in Eden.

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echinopora says...
If there are any left I would have a go. What is the germination rate like? Have you managed to aquire any orange hybrid/frankies red type df yet? I know they are around and I am sure you would know where. Going to need a title soon,"duke of df".
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Yoda on DMT says...
All gone I'm afraid Rob. However, Daleys has both the things you've mentioned in production right now.

There are a few people around with as many varieties as me. I can't really give away any more cuttings, because if I did that per request, I'd have to butcher my plants constantly.

At this point I'm more interested in hunting down superior opuntia CV's and other fruiting cacti, like epiphyllums, and columnar cereus types.
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echinopora says...
Understandable, quick and the dead here. Can't say I can help on the cactus front. The Cuttings I got from you have all started to put on more or less adult type new growth and are pushing a few lateral buds. Have you made any observations on how prone/hardy the cultivars you sent are to moisture stress and sunburn? They are going to spend the winter in the greenhouse but will be planted out come spring. I seem to remember you being after red hybrids from saff a while back and wondering if you found any growing in the back paddock. I stumbled upon a few scarlets and am looking to do a scarlet for red trade once they harden up a bit.
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Yoda on DMT says...
I take em' when I get em'. I have a dozen or so good opuntia now, and several of the better fruiting cereus.

The red jabo weren't for me. I don't eat jaboticaba. I find them weird...not a fan. I doubt they will ever be a commercially viable fruit for this reason. Saff doesn't talk to me anymore anyway so I suppose it doesn't matter really.

I don't chase obscurity, I chase quality. There are a few exceptions--I grow a couple of things for their ornamental value but yeah--I won't eat it if it isn't good, and I'm not going to try and like something at this point.Plinia, eugenia, hog plums, obscurea annonas--just garbage really. Yick. I mean if you compare these to something like mangosteen or other garcinia, yeah--they don't hold up. A lot of this rare stuff is rare for a reason--it's not very good. Perhaps one day it will be, after generations of selective breeding but as of now, yeah--it's the kind of thing better eaten by floor-browsing forest animals. Not going to waste my water and time cultivating something I will never eat and nobody I know will eat.

I wouldn't worry about sunburn too much. If they get adequate moisture, they'll be fine. Sunburn is a cosmetic thing and doesn't really hurt them. Sometimes if it's crazy hot the budding shoots will wilt, but beyond that, there's no reason to worry about it. Eight hours of sun is the minimum you will need for good fruit set, but this depends on the variety. Some will fruit in near on total shade.
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echinopora says...
Thanks for the advice.
I'm on a steep NNW facing hill so no sun problems.

I'm mostly planted for length of season, productivity and ease of picking/processing but the jabs should make a good dooryard tree for near the house/downpipes. For the most part they are the only fruit I have smaller than an egg.

Only have a few left to cross off the list. A decent crisp/low latex grafted jakfruit, A large fruited subacid flavoured annona, some dwarfish bananas that aren't cav's and trial a few other pawpaws to see which I like the best. On the fence about trying an improved Abiu.

How would you rate the tuna's compared to the DF flavourwise and what is the main fruit season? I've seen a few in the 2m range with biggish fruit but never tried as they were on others property.
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Yoda on DMT says...
A good tuna is going to be better than any dragonfruit that exists flavor wise. I have a type that produces fruit that tastes like raspberry syrup. It is stronger and better than any dragon I've tried.

The downsides are the spines, and the seeds ( whatever you do, don't consume to many--you can be literally hospitalised with constipation via over indulgence.)

There are over 300 named varieties of opuntia, and god knows how many hybrids. Probably tens of thousands. They cross readily.

I have found only the reds fruited and purple fruited types to be good. The greens, whites, oranges and yellows are bland and lack sweetness.

My neighbours have a gigantic jaboticaba on their property. It fruits whenever it rains--literally. It produces an abundance of fruit--thousands at a time, which go uneaten and lie rotting on the ground. They attract rats, fruit flies (yes, it can happen) and train birds to eat fruit, which then migrate to your other fruit trees. There are so many things better than jaboticaba to plant instead, one being acerola cherry.
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echinopora says...
Thats definitely the problem with small fruited trees. Well, and neighbors with poor orchard practices. My stonefruit are about 10m away from my neighbors giant carambola tree. It is almost everbearing in the summer. Fruit fly central. One of the main reasons I did a tatura trellis as it makes it easy to net. The existing jabs are trellised (3 tier candelabra) and the new ones might just get fan trained.

By red/purple is that the skin or pulp color. The one around my place has maroon skinned fruits the size of a chicken drumstick, no clue the pulp color.
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Yoda on DMT says...
If the pads are large and a kind of stony grey colour, the fruit on those is probably extremely good. I could probably ID the type with a photo, I'm pretty good at this point.

Possible candidates without seeing the pads are O.Stricta (extremely good fruit) O. Guerrana (Good fruit, but watery) and O. Robusta (same as O. Guerrana).

If you can muster the stones to ask for a couple of pads, keep me in mind. I'd trade or buy them.

The fruits, whatever they are, will be red or maroon fleashed. The skins correlate to fruit colour almost precisely.
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Linton says...
Seed capsules still stuck on Rosa Cherimoyas!

After germinating some months ago (of which nearly all germinated), the seedlings are having trouble shedding their seed coatings. They are stuck on hard and if I try to remove them the top of the plant just breaks off too.

They haven't grown much recently due to the cold weather but still seem quite healthy. I expect they will take off once it warms up and hopefully will discard the seed covers then. Anyone else have this problem?
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A.C says...
Have you tried prying the seed shell open with a knife before you pull it off?
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Linton says...
Taking off seed shells on Cherimoyas failed!

Tried prying off the shells as suggested but the stems were melded within solid matter inside the seed casing.

Consequently they all broke off and what's left of them, sorry to say, seem to be dying.
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denise1 says...
Maybe put wet moss around them and then plastic wrap around the top to moisten the seed coats. Perhaps a better prevention than cure.
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sternus1 says...
Linton,

it's generally better to just let nature take its course with these things. The expanding leaves would have gradually levered off the seed casing over time, the same way this happens with melons/pumpkins
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