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davewastech starts with ... Hi folks. Had this in a different section, so moving it to new topic. Guy Siam vs Yeem Pay. I would like to plant a Wampi in Sydney. What are the pros and cons of these varieties in terms of taste, tree appearance and suitability to Sydney's climate? I was considering to purchase a grafted plant from Daleys and place it near the north wall of my house. | About the Author davewastech Sydney 8th November 2012 2:41pm #UserID: 7097 Posts: 115 View All davewastech's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... Although I've only had one crop from each small tree, in my opinion Yeem Pay is a far superior choice of Wampee in that the flavour is unique, a delicious, musky sweet flavour that is truly "Wampeeish" - Guy Sam, although pleasant, has that acidic, lemony fresh taste which you get with many other fruits and aren't really distinguishable from each other. I could eat a whole bowlful of Yeem Pay fruits but Guy Sam just tastes sharp to me no matter how many I hoe into. They can be kept on the small side, so why not grow both? I think delivery costs are the same for two trees. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 8th November 2012 3:21pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Bummer Phil! I wish I had know that b4 I invested in two G/siams! :-( I had mine in 35L tree sacks for 2yrs davewastech - but I am not sure they were all that happy...they were ok - but they have an incredibly dense and fibrous root system - so keep them well watered and fed...? Mine slowed right down after a time and badly needed bagging up into bigger bags.. U can but try tho...? Use a good potting mix that will last longer and a container that u can easily get them out of when the time comes too... | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 15th November 2012 10:39am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Phil do you mean two and a half metres? Mine is taller than that and no sign of flower or fruit. It was a no name variety from Daleys. P.S. Same here Amanda, just found out mine is a seedling from the Guy Siam! I think it is volunteering for mulch duty, as Mike would say.
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VF says... I just had my first Wampi fruit today, and it was so delicious - rather like a mandarin tasting lychee. My question is, what variety does this look like? I bought it as an impulse buy at Bunnings, where it was labelled Guy Samh. I thougt that GS had more brown fruit and were rounder? Or is it that the Yeem pay are much more yellow and elogated than this?(I already have a smaller Yeem Pay from Daleys, so I'm hoping the label's correct.)
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John Mc says... They are a real lucky dip nickg. Some almost never fruit, MaryT cut a large seedling Wampi down a little while ago because of a lack of fruit. I also have a large 4yo non fruiting tree that will be top worked with known cv's one of these days. A lot are sour, and sometimes, if you are lucky, you just might chance apon an early fruiting seedling worth keeping. I was lucky to find such a seedling. It started flowering in it's first year. If you have a dud, you can graft known cv's, as I've been told, nearly year round with ease. That's one tree I haven't had any personal experience with grafting, yet. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 21st February 2013 9:46pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael D says... I've waited 3 years to try my first wampee crop ( Yeem Pay ) and at the moment I'll give it 5/10 for taste .The skin is like a musky /komquat flavour and the flesh is like a longan without the flavours . I was expecting more from this fruit as someone describe it as better than lychees which is a very big statement to make . | About the Author Michael D wakeley 6th March 2013 12:42pm #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... We don't usually eat the skin and the flesh is like a longan except more sour and has a different fragrance. It's an acquired taste and not favoured by many, unlike the lychee. Whoever said it's better than lychee may be telling the truth but it would be true only to that person as few would agree. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 6th March 2013 1:01pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Miranda says... Hi Michael, you may need to leave your fruit on the tree a bit longer. I don't have a Yeem Pay. This year, I left some of guy sam fruits on the tree too long (about a week after turning brown), fruits became pure sweet without any acid, it is too sweet for me. I love the wampee sweet with mild acidic. So I pick the rest of the fruits a couple of days after truning brown, and they tasted great for me. We don't normally eat the fruit skin, but the skin is a very good herb medicine for indigestion. | About the Author Miranda 7th March 2013 11:22am #UserID: 5193 Posts: 25 View All Miranda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael D says... I persisted with the wampee and my tree this year has been loaded with lots of fruit clusters.I gave them to all my family circle to try and not a single person enjoyed the taste .I have the Yeem Pay variety which was describe as sweet and tangy.I would suggest people try a wampee first if they could before deciding to grow it. I only grew it because of the rave review on this forum but now having tasted it I would have rather grown a ly chee or longan instead. if anyone living near me in Sydney south west and would like to try some wampees then please let me know as I have some clusters of fruit left for this season. | About the Author Michael D wakeley 10th February 2014 9:17pm #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... Carl, if you take a pic, the good folks here can help you identify. Though I don't think wampees has more than 1 seed per fruit. Yes, the wampees are an acquired taste, it's almost like a juice snack, you pinch the fruit and force the seed/juice into mouth and then you spit the seed out. Depending on the variety of wampee, you might chew on the skin. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 11th February 2014 11:00am #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... YP I believe is yellow, very sweet, torpedo shaped and almost ribbed near the point. GS is bronze-orange and a bit more complex (?) in taste, oval in shape. Though my YP only fruited the once so far and that was in drought, so maybe was a bit on the lean/thin side and could get plumper with more water... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 11th February 2014 12:10pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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davewastech says... Hi again folks, Well based on lots of useful info (mostly from you guys) I bought a Yeem Pay seedling from Daleys back in November 2012, and planted it in a sunny spot in the ground (in Sydney). We've just harvested our first crop! (photo was taken 2 weeks before harvest) Faster than I expected. 13 fruit. Tree is now 1.2m tall. And they were very delicious - tangy citrus, sweet, juicy, complex. A strong taste. The three of us all rate this one way better than lychee. (but then all three of us think lychee is over-rated - a bit like sugar solution with rose flavour, lacking in interest). However I imagine that eating a whole bowl of these wampi might be a bit much. Thanks for the many interesting replies to this thread, Dave
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davewastech says... OK, the progress of my Yeem Pay Wampi so far. Feb 2014 - First crop was 13 fruit. 2015 - no flowers or fruit. Feb 2016 - About 60 fruit. But I got fruit fly! Feb 2017 - Maybe 100 fruit. Delicious. Netted to prevent fruit fly. Height 3m. An elderly couple of friends originally from Southern China just love to visit this time of the year (their tree never fruited). They eat the skin as well, and reckon I'm discarding the best part. Personally I find the skin a bit over-powering, a very strong wampi taste, so I just chew a bit of the skin. The last two crops have been rather sparse on the bunches. Dunno if this is insect damage or just failure to set fruit well. Anybody know?
| About the Author davewastech WILLOUGHBY EAST,2068,NSW 8th February 2017 11:19pm #UserID: 7097 Posts: 115 View All davewastech's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Treefrog says... Hi all, I see this is quite an old thread, but it is still fascinating to me. i have never tasted a wampi but am super keen to try. Do any of you have Yeem Pay scions I could purchase near Northern NSW? Id love to try to graft it to a citrus .. would love to have a taste of a wampi too! | About the Author Treefrog MULLUMBIMBY,2482,NSW 17th November 2020 9:58pm #UserID: 24495 Posts: 6 View All Treefrog's Edible Fruit Trees |
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davewastech1 says... Hi Treefrog and others, I now have two Yeem Pay wampi trees (because I reckon they're great!). Both are planted in-ground and both were seedlings bought from Daleys. Both commenced fruiting after about two years. The fruiting season here in Sydney is always starting late January thru February and maybe till early March. They are flowering/ setting fruit now. It looks like I was just lucky that both trees fruit. It is very easy to grow trees from the seeds. However I know of three people who did this and all three trees hadn't fruited after 4 years or more. Another issue is that I find here is that the bunches set fruit rather sparsely (on both trees) - maybe because Sydney isn't warm enough(?) I have seen wampi bunches for sale in Vietnam (and growing on trees there) and their fruit set is just like you find by googling. But still it's a good tree to have - last summer (2020) was my best crop so far and the 7 year old must have produced about 200 fruits. They taste wonderful but quite strong, so you might not want to eat thousands. And the tree is attractive and looks healthy throughout the year. | About the Author davewastech1 WILLOUGHBY EAST,2068,NSW 18th November 2020 10:58am #UserID: 21898 Posts: 33 View All davewastech1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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davewastech1 says... I should mention that in Vietnam I found them to be rather expensive (about 3 or 4 times the price you might pay for lychee or longan), and much less common in the market. It was mid summer. Maybe expensive because not in the middle of the season, or maybe more difficult to grow well? | About the Author davewastech1 WILLOUGHBY EAST,2068,NSW 19th November 2020 8:08am #UserID: 21898 Posts: 33 View All davewastech1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Treefrog says... Wow, so fascinating Davewastech1. Did you end up trying the Guy Sam as well in the end to compare? I havent tasted either as of yet. Although in saying this, i suppose it is not season? Looking back over others comments I get the impression that if I can eventually graft a scion and it works- that may be enough yield for our family's needs..Im a bit space poor with our backyard, so am always hoping for space saving ideas without missing having fun fruit opportunities! Interesting re the sparser fruit set. Hopefully as we are just that bit warmer than Sydney we could potentially get a slightly better yield.. Anyway, our citrus is ready to graft onto- hopefully a taste test and scion comes our way! | About the Author Treefrog MULLUMBIMBY,2482,NSW 19th November 2020 8:28pm #UserID: 24495 Posts: 6 View All Treefrog's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Treefrog says... Oh and I wanted to thank you so much Davewastech1 for responding! It is very reassuring to hear of a longer term endorsement of a plant, and to hear that you now have two because you liked the YP is a pretty solid recommendation. I hope someone else who knows wampis can weigh in on the yield side of things for you. | About the Author Treefrog MULLUMBIMBY,2482,NSW 19th November 2020 8:42pm #UserID: 24495 Posts: 6 View All Treefrog's Edible Fruit Trees |
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davewastech1 says... Hi Treefrog, I've never seen a wampi tree in Australia that I've known to be Guy Siam. The trees that I've seen in Sydney are all planted by people from the wampi part of the world (ie Southern China, Vietnam) and the ones I've spoken to don't know what variety they have. In Vietnam I found them for sale only twice, both times in markets, and I can't speak the language at all, so I don't know what variety, but I can say they tasted different to mine. Surprisingly I prefer the taste of my Yeem Pay. I've read that in SE Asia there are more than two varieties. I've also read that it can be successfully grafted onto citrus rootstock - see more info on grafting wampi from California at https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/clausena_lansium.html I should also mention that on my tree the larger fruit taste better than the smaller ones. | About the Author davewastech1 WILLOUGHBY EAST,2068,NSW 20th November 2020 11:13am #UserID: 21898 Posts: 33 View All davewastech1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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