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| About the Author TMary Neutral Bay NSW 10th April 2014 1:26pm #UserID: 9334 Posts: 159 View All TMary's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 10th April 2014 1:44pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 10th April 2014 2:47pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... well, any sort of PET plastic will do--soft drink bottle, ice cream container,yoghurt, anything. Just so long as the patches you cut out are flat to sit flush with the surface you'll be fine. You could even buy some kind of polymer paste which sets as hard as metal/plastic and just plug the holes with this.This would probably be easier and just as cheap tbh, get the stuff they use to plug holes in water tanks. No need for a pond liner. http://www.bondall.com/titerange/aquaputty.html It occurred to me later that you're better off patching it from the inside, otherwise it might not sit even on the ground and will be more full one side than the other. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 10th April 2014 3:19pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author TMary Neutral Bay NSW 10th April 2014 3:35pm #UserID: 9334 Posts: 159 View All TMary's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 10th April 2014 4:04pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 10th April 2014 4:10pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Those holes look small enough to fill with silicone or polyurethane. You can get a tube for $5 to $6 and a silicone gun for under $5. Polyurethane is more expensive, from $11 to $16/tube. The cheap version is exactly the same as the more expensive version, same with silicone, get the roof/gutter, neutral cure. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 10th April 2014 8:21pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th April 2014 8:54am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 11th April 2014 9:02am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th April 2014 9:10am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 11th April 2014 3:29pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th April 2014 4:31pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 11th April 2014 5:13pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Back to water plants: any suggestions anyone? I want to keep some fish for mosquitoes but I don't want to run pumps and filters. s1 we don't have local hardware stores any more but the discount stores are doing well providing the basics at low prices. They don't have the best quality but often stock stuff that would do the job. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 12th April 2014 7:33am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi Mary, We've got several small ponds, mainly recycled old aquaria and large containers with pond liner for water chestnuts, lebanese cress and kangkong. Also they have pond weed in them. Most have Pacific blue eyes in them (and tadpoles). They do a great job and are compatible with frogs. Goldfish will do the job but eat frog eggs and small tadpoles. We don't feed our outside fish. One container with water lilies has a small solar fountain (picture). The solar panel is on a pole at the end of a bean trellis, but it can go on the ground. This fountan is from Brookfield produce- a local family-owned produce and hardware shop that is very popular. We are lucky to have it nearby. I'm always in there buying things for the garden and animals.
| About the Author Diana brisbane 12th April 2014 8:46am #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... My mother used to keep swordtails with water plants in an old concrete feed trough.No filter, but you have to change the water obviously. They're hardy and attractive, and you can get them delivered to your door.The advantage they have over goldfish is that they graze less, and won't dirty the water as quickly. Might be too cold for them in Sydney, not sure. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 12th April 2014 8:54am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Thanks, Diana and s1; lots to think about. Having edible water plants would be great; I grow kangkong in self watering pots. I would like to grow water chestnuts as well. Now that I have given up the idea of relocating, I am going ahead with plans that I have shelved and a water garden is the first thing I want to make. :) | About the Author MaryT Sydney 12th April 2014 9:16am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 12th April 2014 9:41am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 12th April 2014 10:50am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Mary, one of the best plants for keeping the water oxygenated is Vallisneria - ribbon weed or eel weed. You won't need a pump if you plant this. I have tiny fish for eating the mozzies, but I'm not sure what they are called - maybe mountain minnows? I also have lots of little frogs, and sometimes a motorbike frog, so they all live happily with each other. The water is partly shaded with azolla, which I rake off each week for a high-nitrogen mulch for my pots. If you are going to keep fish (and you need some for the mozzies) I would recommend you put the container where it is shaded from the afternoon sun. As it is only 45cm deep, it could get pretty warm in summer in full sunlight. You might be able to get plants and fish from a local paper, or even Gumtree. Here's a link about pond fish. http://www.runwildtv.com/how-we-do-it/introduction-to-frog-friendly-fishes/ | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 12th April 2014 7:06pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 12th April 2014 7:25pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi Mary, I think this group gave a talk at BOGI about which native fish and plants promote frogs. I bookmarked it when I was setting up ponds. It it Brisbane focused- I'm sure there is an equivalent in Melbourne you could find on the web too. http://www.qldfrogs.asn.au/01_cms/details.asp?id=15 | About the Author Diana Brisbane 13th April 2014 7:26am #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 13th April 2014 7:38am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Fishpond just being installed now so the information here has been very timely. I dug the hole before the rain came which has now half filled it but the pond has sunk on one end so I will have to take it out and make it level again. Then I will be looking for some fish and some plants. Read that the Eel Weed doesn't grow in colder climates, please confirm. A few days ago I saw a beautiful red Taro plant growing in water at Gardenworld. Tempting....but it was a whopping $70 for 1 plant! The more common Taro is much cheaper but I don't think it can grow underwater, isn't it?
| About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 13th April 2014 10:45am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 13th April 2014 11:13am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Hi Mary It doesn't show clearly in the picture but the far right hand side is about 2 inches lower than the rest of the pond. It doesn't have to be perfectly level but I would like it to be a bit better than how it is at the moment. Better to get it right at the start than trying to do it later - after the fish and plants have been added. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 13th April 2014 11:32am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT Sydney 13th April 2014 3:34pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Linton, one thing that worries me about your pond is that if an animal, eg, a lizard, fell in, there is no easy way for it to climb out. Could you put a big rock at one end? My pond, which is not all that big, is a hole in the ground lined with heavy duty black plastic. I put a ledge around the edge and added rocks, as there are lots of goannas and bandicoots around here, and I'd hate to drown one. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 13th April 2014 7:21pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 14th April 2014 8:49am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 14th April 2014 7:17pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TMary says... Julie I have a pair of lovers on three brick for any drowning lizards to climb on :). In the end I put a liner in the container but still have to solve the problem of the ugly edges. I can walk to a local aquarium but they only have gold fish for outdoors so that's what I have. No frogs but better than mosquitoes. Still a work in progress.
| About the Author TMary Neutral Bay NSW 29th May 2014 3:25pm #UserID: 9334 Posts: 159 View All TMary's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 29th May 2014 9:06pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TMary says... Thank you everyone for your input; I have now completed my pond project, if such things are ever completed. I have nine fan tails in it and a dozen plants. Although initially I wanted to grow food (water chestnuts, kangkong etc.) I decided the container is not big enough with that number of fish in it. It does not have a filter or pump but so far all's well; I have been taking water from it when I add fresh water so I can water my kangkong and Vietnamese mint and rice paddy herbs with the nutrient rich water. It is a fertiliser factory! Cuttings of those plants float happily on the surface and grow roots as well. My crazy clay figures are happier in their new home too. They were buried under the Erigeron daisies. I hope you are all enjoying this brilliant Autumn day - blue sky, crisp air and sunshine. I feel quite blessed. My nine new pets are having a ball.
| About the Author TMary Neutral Bay NSW 3rd June 2014 1:07pm #UserID: 9334 Posts: 159 View All TMary's Edible Fruit Trees |
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