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Hi everyone, I needs some ideas for an edible tree/shrub for a certain position. It is a sheltered north-facing brick wall that gets sun in winter but a bit of shade in summer because of the roof's overhang (still plenty of warmth). The site is also surrounded on the east side so it gets a bit of early morning shade.
Any help is appreciated :)
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Nick
Altona, VIC
6th July 2011 5:42pm
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Nick says...
The photo is facing east by the way.
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micarle says...
Whay don't you put a few dynabolts in the wall and run some wire around and plant your Arguta's there??
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6th July 2011 6:26pm
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Nick says...
Id like to micarle but I think its too hot and cramped up there. Im considering planting just around the corner where it can climb to its hearts content and get only morning sun. Do you mind if I have a cutting of your Issai, I dont really trust Diggers after last time...
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micarle says...
Yeah no worries!!!! I got my Issai from diggers this year, its only small but by the end of this coming summer it will have grown alot!!!
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Nick says...
Thanks! :) You want anything in return?
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micarle says...
Nar All good!! I have a few things i need to prop up for members of this forum!!
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amanda says...
could you espalier something against the brick wall maybe? (I don't know what though..!?) or would it make the foundations of the wall too wet all the time?
The narrow side of the house is always a challenging spot isn't it...
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amanda
Geraldton. Mide West WA.
7th July 2011 9:21am
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Dave says...
Sounds like a good place to try some of the harder to grow subtropical fruits in melbourne, I'm thinking bananas, lychee, custard apple, etc. All that radiant heat you will get from the bricks will be good for them, not sure how hot it gets in that spot so be careful of fruit getting cooked, my thoughts are apples and pears may struggle here. You could raise the bed a bit alongside the path as much as you like for better management and deeper soil, but yeah maybe line the brick wall side with plastic to prevent seepage.
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Nick says...
Maybe I could plant a lychee or longan there, I definetly want to take advantage of all the radiated heat.
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snottiegobble says...
Think youre pushing your luck with lychee or longan, so what about tamarillo or babaco? They both fruit within 18 months & dont get too big. It depends on the overhang in summer, but it should prevent frost. Maybe you can hang shadecloth the first summer until the trees are a reasonable height & under the overhang.
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Nick says...
Thats a good idea SG, I might plant my tamarillo.
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Nick says...
OK, I've got another place that needs a bit of filling. It gets 2 or maybe 3 hours of sun in winter and maybe 5 hours or so in summer so I was thinking something deciduous. Any ideas appreciated.
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allybanana says...
How about Asimina triloba a bit of an understory tree deciduous, yummy i hear. blue berries?

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Nick says...
Do the american pawpaws mind a bit of afternoon shade? Also what pH do they like?
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Dave says...
Actually Nick, A.Tribola prefers dappled light especilially in the afternoon as its quite light sensitive being more of a understory tree. As they establish they require more light but as they grow to at least 3.5m they'll find it! they can grow to 6 metres but they grow slow and thats ideal conditions.
They like a slightly acidic soil too, ph 6 or there abouts. They also send out suckers as they establish, another thing to keep in mind.

You could also try feijoa as a great screen, ornamental, edible petals and one of my fave fruits in this spot as they will still fruit quite well in reduced light. They are hardy too and don't mind a colder place. Mammoth and Nazemetz are great varieties to have. Good luck!
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Nick says...
Thanks for the information dave! :)
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Nick says...
Can anyone recommend an edible shrub that likes summer sun and winter shade (for about 3 months), i was thinking maybe ugni/ chilean guava..?
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amanda says...
Something dwarf and deciduous maybe Nick? My dwarf peaches and nectarines are just under 1m tall at 5yrs and very compact.
Or something that u only grow in summer like herbs maybe..? (and alternate with a winter crop also..?
Not quite sure what final purpose the space u want to grow in has here?
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amanda
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25th January 2012 11:04pm
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Nick says...
To be honest I prefer something that isnt annual, perhaps asparagus?? It dies down in winter so it wouldn't need a lot of sun then (would it?). It also has very rich, fertile soil- its next to my leaf mould pile so everytime the birds decide to eat the worms, the patch gets an application of leaf mould.
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amanda says...
I can't see why asparagus wouldn't work there Nick? Maybe some one else here has more knowledge though..?

I love mine - they very tough customers. They are not particulary pretty post picking tho...the fronds get quite big and messy. It doesn't matter, where mine are tho. Maybe others have ways of dealing with this..
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26th January 2012 8:31pm
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Nick says...
Thanks amanda, btw i saw on your edibles page that you're looking for a jelly palm, i've just bought some seeds do you want any?
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Nick
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amanda says...
Hey Nick...a forum member kindly sent me some awhile back - but thank you :) Must remove that now..oops.
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27th January 2012 9:15am
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