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Which fig variety is best in these three?

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db starts with ...
Glad I found this site, I wasn't aware of Daleys until now..

Last week I bought Brown Turkey and White Adriatic fig variety from local Bunnings. Brown Turkey is already more than one meter in height but no fruits (but looks like it will fruit soon as I can see tiny buds near leafs) but White Adriatic is only 1 feet in height but already got 7-8 young fruits on it. Somewhere here I have read White Adriatic is more tasty but more suitable for cooler climate. That Bunnings store also have Black Genoa variety which seems to be more popular as I read it here now. Can someone tell me which one has best taste among these three? Has anyone successfully grown White Adriatic in Brisbane weather? how does it tastes? I can still return/exchange my purchase in Bunnings, so please help.

What I'm after is any fig variety which tastes great and produces lots of fruits each yr :) I must mention that I'm going grow them in pots due to limited space in my garden...

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Jason says...
White adriatic is famously famous for being a very tasty fig. It took me years to find one but no fruit yet as the tree I finally found had been in a pot for years and was stuffed. I took an air layer of it though and that's doing well, it should be fine in Brisbane
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db says...
Thanks a lot Jason for ur reply.. I'll keep White Adriatic then.. What size is ur pot for ur adriatic? I'm thinking to plant it in around 90L size pot, will that be enough to produce fruit?
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MaryT says...
Hi db, I have a White Adriatic and a Black Genoa in pots and they are both fruiting. The Black Genoa is three times more vigorous and has four times the number of fruit. There is some mottling of leaves at the moment and I have to find out what's wrong with them.
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MaryT says...
This is the first time they fruited after they arrived as bare sticks of about 8 inches three years ago.

Pic 1: White Adriatic in 40cm? pot
Pic 2: Fruit on White Adriatic
Pic 3: (Foreground) Fruit on Black Genoa (see leaf)
Pic 4: Another branch on Black Genoa (six ft. tall in 50cm pot)
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MaryT says...
Sorry I didn't answer your question re taste; they are not ripe enough to eat :) I'll let you know if the local wildlife don't get there first.
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MaryT says...
BTW I pruned off a branch of the Black Genoa last winter and stuck it in a pot - it is now a new tree so if you'd like a stick let me know in winter at tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au.
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db says...
Hi MaryT,

Thanks a lot for your reply. So which one will be better in Black Genoa and Brown Turkey? Should I exchange my Brown Turnkey with Black Genoa? My local Bunnings currently have black genoa with couple of fruits on it. I have read brown Turkey will fruit twice a year but I'm not sure how many yearly fruits compared to black Genoa.. Any idea? Also which tastes better?

Thanks again
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MaryT says...
I don't have Brown Turkey so I can't advise you about that, though I heard it's delicious. Why not take a look at what others say in their "Edibles" entries? Click it on the list (top left of page).
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amanda says...
I have been told Black genoa is better than brown turkey. Haven't tasted black genoa. I have a Brown Turkey. I think it's great...but I often find it hard to get the fruit fully moist inside (if that makes sense?) Often the very centre is a bit dry.

I give it heaps of water - so I don't know why this happens.

Anyway - it's prolific and the fruit are very large. The taste is lovely, to me.

Sorry I can't help more re: taste comparison.

I posted a link to an American Fig 'expert' comments in the form here somewhere - and he gave B.turkey the thumbs down...?? If u use the search feature you may be able to find the thread it is in.
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Aaron says...
I bought my White Genoa in Aug 2009 as a stick about 2 feet tall.

For the first year it was in a 90L pot and was transplanted to the ground in Winter 2010. Wasn't much fruits developed as it lacked watering.

But this year, watering has been constant and have been plucking figs everyday to avour after dinner.

It is creamy with a slight pink on the inside while it is greenish yellow on the outside. Still learning when is the right time to harvest!! :)

Definitely taste better than Brown Turkey.
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Jason says...
White Genoa and White Adriatic are different variates. White Genoa is performing well for me so far and tastes pretty good but by all accounts isn't as good as White Adriatic which is why I have ended up with both :). I also have Excel which is another White fig and also pretty good (big upright tree that one).

Black Genoa is supposed to be better than Brown Turkey I have 2 trees of one of those but I forget which, either way it doesn't ripen in time before Winter here very often. I doesn't seem possible to have a bad fig, just some are better than others :). All mine are in the ground

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db says...
Hi MaryT,

I have sent you an email.

Cheers
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Db says...
Yesterday I picked up our first fig of White Adriatic variety, I was expecting it to be very good in taste, it was good but exactly same like what I normally get from fruit market, it even looked same.. It was no where near to strawberry flavour.. When I google for white adricatic fig pics, I can see totally different figs than mine. I imagine mine is not white Adriatic. Outside became dark blakish brown in colour (like black genoa) when i picked it, it should be yellow in colour when fully ready, isn't it? Is mine not white adriatic? I bought it from Bunnings and that time they had only this white Adriatic plant which I bought and other variety like brown turkey and black genoa they had that time looked different than white adriatic so that time I was sure it must be white adriatic :( :(
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john says...
Be aware that the naming of figs is not consistent. In fact it is downright confused. The same fig is called something else by another grower.
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john says...
I'm a big fan of Preson's Prolific.
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Db says...
Hmm, i hope it's not the case with Daleys fig plants. I'm going avoid Bunnings from now onwards for any fruit plants.I have read lot of similar stories here.

Still I don't think that mine is black genao ( even fruit looked similar) which is fast grower, mine is not fast growing.
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John I. says...
Db, if the trunck is dark then it is probably black genoa. If the trunk is grey then its probably brown turkey.
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Db says...
Trunk is light brown in colour. its not dark or grey.. Photo is here - http://plant.daleysfruit.com.au/l/help-looks-like-i-made-newbie-mistake-7700.jpeg

Whats White Adriatic's trunk like or any other way to identify it?
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peter says...
a white adriatic has green skin and
dark red flesh, mine tastes exactly like
strawberry jam.

black genoa has dark skin and dark red flesh.

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John I. says...
My guess would be brown turkey. The trunk on my black genao is much darker.
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Db says...
This is the photo of that fig that I picked couple of days back which I expected to be white Adriatic as per Bunnings label, unfortunately it's something else... Looks like its black genoa fig but tree is not fast growing.. Does anyone know what variety I got from these photos, In future I will be adding more fig trees in my collection but I don't want 2 trees of same variety :)
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Db says...
Can anyone guess what variety of fig I got from above photo?
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john says...
It's a little anemic but it looks like Black Genoa.
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Dave says...
I would agree with John, it could be many of the darker fruit varieties but if its from bunnies then it would likely be a Black genoa, they also sell Brown turkey but I would expect more 'Brown tones'. The White Adriatic in my orchard has fruit which have just ripened on their 'hegos' crop, the skin is quite light green with some even a yellow hue. They are very delicious and do taste like a melting strawberry! Its not a big tree and tends to have a grey to light coloured bark on most of it. The other variety I tried from my place this year for the first time is the 'St.Dominique Violette', it was super sweet and a lovely texture, fresh it is almost too sweet and with ice-cream it is amazing. The others I like are Excel, Prestons Prolific and Black Adriatic. Actually most figs I've tried I really liked, some are just a bit sweeter than others and juicier . I did have a few bad ones from one tree but i think they had a bad season, they were quite dry and gritty in the centre and the flavour was okay but mealy and I think it was a Genoa but thats not to say it can't be good in right conditions.
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Db says...
Thanks John and Dave for the reply.. I'm really upset with this Bunnings purchase as mine is not White Adriatic as per the label, When I purchased it, that time that Bunnings store had Black Genoa and Brown Turkey plants as well which were all at least 3 times bigger than this 'white adriatic :( Anyway...

I'm going to stick with Daleys for next purchase..
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john says...
Black genoa is not bad ;main trouble is that it can be quite runny and a lot of the fruit does not ripen in the season and just sits there.
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Db says...
I agree John, Black Genoa is not bad, as I said above fruit was tasty.. It's just I expected it to be White Adriatic so I'm bit upset.. I'm growing it in a large pot (90L), so it will be restricted anyway, so no worries..

In future I plan to add White Adriatic and Preston Prolific, can I get some cuttings of your PP John? :)
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MaryT says...
I have a white adriatic sitting there right now and the fruit I did eat were tasteless compared to the Black Genoa.
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Db says...
MaryT, it may not white adriatic then :)
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MaryT says...
That's it, Db, we can only rely on the nursery's label.
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Db says...
I was just kidding MaryT... yeah I was also relying on that Bunnings label but I was unlucky in this case.. Anyway, whatever variety it is, fruit was good, specially considering first fruit.. I'm sure it will get better n better in next few seasons.. Is yours (White Adriatic) from Daleys or some other nursery?
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MaryT says...
Glad to hear that the fruit was good, Db. Yes, that's all that matters. I'm sure both my figs were from Diggers, mere twigs (think thin pencil) when they arrived but well, after years of waiting they are now both fruiting. The White Adriatic fig is disappointing in that it is tasteless but the black genoa had decent fruit comparable to what you can buy. If I can't figure out a way to improve the flavour of the White it's getting the chop.
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J says...
Dave,
I bought a St.Dominique Violette fig from diggers a couple of years ago. Been pretty disappointed so far. Each year it gets a bunch of fruits that go dark and soft and fall off when I open them they are immature and white inside. I was 3/4 convinced to take it out this year and try something else. Thought it might have been one of the types that need pollination. How long did you have to wait to get fruit? Seems like it might be worth keeping it based on your description.

I've also got an excel and picone (great fig best I've tasted)
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Hey J
My St.Dom is only a young tree also. The first crop it did something similiar and produced small immature fruit. This year i got maybe 8 good sized figs that were nice. I'm fairly sure its self fertile, I would say give it a bit longer, the seasons the last 18 months are a bit tricky for figs anyway. Summer rains at set will make fruit drop. I'd say by year 4 it should be a good producing tree.
Yet to try the Picone...sounds good.
MaryT, thats a shame about your 'White' as this is one of my fave figs...maybe sweeten the soil! Figs generally like a more alkaline soil so dolomite lime or similiar might help, I only add a little compost once a year as they need very little attention after the first 3 years or so.
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