white sapote .golden globe

JohnMc1 says...
Thanks for that description srt, I have some Golden Globes nearly ripe.

phil@tyalgum says...
The first year my fruit were only plum sized as well Grant. Now the tree is about eight feet tall and am really surprised how large they are this year, about the size of a Jonathan apple. Large seeds as with the Vista, but a very satisfying fruit to eat. Pests have left this one alone so far but I have to beat the fruit bats to my Vista fruit which has paper thin skin and damages easily. The Lemon Gold has more like a shell for a skin and doesn't splatter when it drops. It also changes colour and is more obvious when it is ripe.

JohnMc1 says...
Phil, did any of your fruit get sunburn?

JohnMc1 says...
A couple of fruit exposed to the afternoon sun.

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JohnMc1 says...
Golden Globe is apparently self fertile but a pollinator would be beneficial. See how it goes, or find someone who could give you some compatible scionwood and graft a couple onto your existing tree. Ol mate Jason from this forum could guide you on which pollinator would be best.

vlct says...
my w.s has real bad leaf curl. has anyone else had this problem ?

Markmelb says...
Dont worry its due to their semi deciduous nature - you should see lots of bud growth even on trunk and branches which will go boom once it warms up when we get real spring in 3.5 weeks

Markmelb says...
It wont continue - be patient and dont water too much unless its been very windy - did yu go out and note new buds all over?

Markmelb says...
How big is you GG? Still in a pot - how old etc?
Mine in pots grow alot slower than those in ground - flowers should be soon on younger plants - Mature plants i know of have been flowering since May.

A.C says...
Pete I think the long cold nights spell we have been enduring here in Adelaide may have something to do with sapote problem. Ive got a golden globe in a pot and a ortega in the ground.I think the ortega is more cold tolerant than the golden globe.There maybe an issue with the soil.Yellowing leaves might be a problem with nitrogen uptake. Wait till september till the warmer weather kicks in to make a assessment of your golden globe.It might pay to cover tree overnight.The sapotes are notorious for yellowing leaf drop but ortega would do it in october /november which I sprayed tree with zinc/ magesium and water tree with miracle gro .I will watch forum .Id wait till later in the year before doing anything.

Peter91 says...
Hey A.C if you see this, i've noted no new buds or anything on the W/S and another section of the plant has basically wilted and dried up over a single night.

Is this normal or should I consider actually moving it ASAP or throwing in more compost/fertilizer etc? I'm unsure of the soil PH, so I don't know if it's the soil doing it or something else? Could it be it's positioning? I placed it in a spot that mostly get the afternoon sun and is mostly shaded during the day, but i'd heard they don't need full sun to thrive?

I'd heard alot of people saying that white sapotes are hardy and can tolerate alot of things, but mine seems to be heading south quick, or should I continue to wait until the warmer spring?

If anyone could offer suggestions i'd appreciate it.

Peter91 says...
So would you recommend me actually transplanting the W/S to another spot? Or would you say it's fine where it is in partial shade during the early day and will pick up during the hotter weather?

Peter91 says...
No it was planted into the ground with some fertilizer etc hoping that the spring heat would have picked up by now, which is why i'm wondering now if something is wrong with that soil now.

Peter91 says...
I did put a little bit of fertilizer under the plants hole, and the soil didn't seem the best quality, but it seemed viable enough and had plenty of worms etc digging around under there.

I also only added a bit of compost to start with into the soil, it's pretty dark out now but the photos should be clear enough to show the leaf situation, the ones shriveling up are actually at the top of the plant, where as you can see the ones at the bottom mostly look fine.

It just baffles me how the plant was fine for weeks, then in the span of a week just takes a dive.

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Peter91 says...
Did it do it to the entire plant Waterfall? Because the entire top new growth of mine is starting to droop and look shriveled up like that.

Waterfall says...
Just the new growth Peter, it was a significant flush so the whole top looks a bit curled.

I'll grab a photo tomorrow.

sternus1 says...
yep, absolutely. They do not like alternating water levels, similar to avocado thought not quite so extreme.

Peter91 says...
Hey Waterfall that was pretty much what mine looked like but got worse, it rained heavily a few days back, all the top growth turned brown, then blew off in the strong winds we've had.

So now only the bottom layer of growth is left.

Rob19 says...
Hi J,
Do the trees look much different?
I don't suppose you can provide some photos comparing them?

I'd also be interested to know if you can provide any information on the taste of Kampong. My tiny little tree arrived from Daleys and promptly flowered and tried to set fruit. Based on this I'm guessing it will fruit well I'm just wondering if the taste will be up to scratch.

Rob19 says...
Markmelb, If you ever find one of these fabled lemon meringue trees please grab a scion for me ;)

Markmelb says...
Linton - your flowering is way ahead of me this year - was possibly coldest winter plants have experienced - Friend in Donvale had lots of damage due to frosts and temps of minus 3c -- eeeek.