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simplehonky starts with ... My grandma had an awesome custard apple tree that would produce loads of fruit (without hand pollination) every year, she asked her mower man to prune it for her. He did the foliage came back fine but it hasn't produced fruit/flowers since (8 years), is there any way to kick it into flower/fruiting again?	About the Author simplehonky 12th June 2013 7:15pm #UserID: 8046 Posts: 2 View All simplehonky's Edible Fruit Trees
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denise1 says... This is what i do for cherimoya. They have flower and leaf buds enclosed within the base of the leaf petiole. So buds can only grow when the leaf is off. First get a leafy branch/twig and cut off the stem a few inches from the end.So you will lose the end few leaves. Then you will be left with maybe 8 or 10 leaves. Cut off the 4 middle leaves. Some flowers should quickly arrive from the leaf scars if timed well. They are then pollenated naturally by a species of flower thrips in NZ. It is possible the same insect can cause flower damage in other crops on rare occasion.	About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 13th June 2013 10:42am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees
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y3yrr says... Agree that the buds of cherimoya are enclosed in the petiole--but then how can cutting off said leaves help with flowering?	About the Author y3yrr sydney 13th June 2013 3:38pm #UserID: 8037 Posts: 18 View All y3yrr's Edible Fruit Trees
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John Mc says... leaf abscission induces budding.	About the Author JohnMc1 13th June 2013 4:01pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees
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dsw says... Leaf abscission is not the same as actively removing the leaves.	About the Author dsw 13th June 2013 6:15pm #UserID: 8048 Posts: 1 View All dsw's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mike says... Deciduous species produce abscissic acid that helps with shedding leaves. Just about all annonas enjoy a good prune and it does stimulate branching and flowering. John the eagle has landed and is in good nick. Thanks for that. Crank up google for about Tuesday.It is only the tip of the iceberg and there are 'warmer' species heading to David.	About the Author Cairns 13th June 2013 6:29pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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denise1 says... The leaf pruning I mentioned above is practice on several orchards/groves at least and has been successful in my own experience when done at the appropriate time for producing flowers, on cherimoya trees.	About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 13th June 2013 8:20pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees
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John Mc says... Mike, I just found out that particular cultivar is normally grafted onto Squamosa rootstock, probably for dwarfing characteristics. I used Cherimoya, you might have to prune more than expected.	About the Author JohnMc1 13th June 2013 10:37pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mike says... OK John thanks for that. I hope the rootstock handles some warmth.That variety does not seem to have lived up to expectations for many people and the trees seem a bit touchy.	About the Author Cairns 15th June 2013 7:39pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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simplehonky says... Thank you so much I'll give it a try and let you know asap how it goes	About the Author simplehonky 15th June 2013 7:43pm #UserID: 8046 Posts: 2 View All simplehonky's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mike says... I didn't read the initial post very well. Simplehonky you might have to mulch, fertilise and make sure it has good watering after pruning. I bet it would enjoy potassium sulphate in the fertilise mix. Fertilising is usually done well before the flowering season however.	About the Author Cairns 15th June 2013 7:52pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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simplehonky starts with ...
My grandma had an awesome custard apple tree that would produce loads of fruit (without hand pollination) every year, she asked her mower man to prune it for her. He did the foliage came back fine but it hasn't produced fruit/flowers since (8 years), is there any way to kick it into flower/fruiting again?

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denise1 says...
This is what i do for cherimoya. They have flower and leaf buds enclosed within the base of the leaf petiole. So buds can only grow when the leaf is off. First get a leafy branch/twig and cut off the stem a few inches from the end.So you will lose the end few leaves. Then you will be left with maybe 8 or 10 leaves. Cut off the 4 middle leaves. Some flowers should quickly arrive from the leaf scars if timed well. They are then pollenated naturally by a species of flower thrips in NZ. It is possible the same insect can cause flower damage in other crops on rare occasion.

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y3yrr says...
Agree that the buds of cherimoya are enclosed in the petiole--but then how can cutting off said leaves help with flowering?

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John Mc says...
leaf abscission induces budding.

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dsw says...
Leaf abscission is not the same as actively removing the leaves.

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Mike says...
Deciduous species produce abscissic acid that helps with shedding leaves. Just about all annonas enjoy a good prune and it does stimulate branching and flowering.
John the eagle has landed and is in good nick. Thanks for that. Crank up google for about Tuesday.It is only the tip of the iceberg and there are 'warmer' species heading to David.

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denise1 says...
The leaf pruning I mentioned above is practice on several orchards/groves at least and has been successful in my own experience when done at the appropriate time for producing flowers, on cherimoya trees.

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John Mc says...
Mike, I just found out that particular cultivar is normally grafted onto Squamosa rootstock, probably for dwarfing characteristics. I used Cherimoya, you might have to prune more than expected.

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Mike says...
OK John thanks for that. I hope the rootstock handles some warmth.That variety does not seem to have lived up to expectations for many people and the trees seem a bit touchy.

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simplehonky says...
Thank you so much I'll give it a try and let you know asap how it goes

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Mike says...
I didn't read the initial post very well. Simplehonky you might have to mulch, fertilise and make sure it has good watering after pruning. I bet it would enjoy potassium sulphate in the fertilise mix. Fertilising is usually done well before the flowering season however.

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