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Kath starts with ...
I have just picked the best nectarine I have ever grown in my home orchard. This year I used the mesh exclusion bags and I have found them to be very successful. My neighbour netted her tree with a 2 inch poly pipe frame and had nightmares catching pregnant bats. I am wondering if anyone else has used exclusion bags and how you found them, or has anyone designed a successful fruit fly frame for exclusion netting to cover the whole tree?
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Wayne says...
They look absolutely beautiful Kath
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BJ says...
I've used exclusion bags this year on White Sapote, Yellow Cherry Guava and Flat Peaches and no hint of fruit fly despite my trap catching hundreds of males.

The ones I use are much smaller than the ones from Daley's - unfortunately they weren';t giving them away anymore when my order was ready :( - So there is a little problem with rubbing on the skin of the fruit, but it keeps out the fly and doesn't effect the taste in the least.
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amanda says...
Hi Kath - is that your Sunraycer? It looks perfect! what taste rating would you give it? :)
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Kath says...
Hi Amanda, yes this is my Sunraycer. Taste rating - really yummy. I just had one for breakfast to check, and it was deliciously perfect. Let them sit for a day after picking - if you can wait to let them get soft and juicy.

I also bagged some of my plums, the gulf ruby (pictured) ripened first, the gold are still ripening and this year for the first time I even have a splattering of mariposa's due to our weird warmer but cooler winter. The birds did descend on the ruby once they were ripe and knocked all the fruit off the branch but they were all caught in the bag and still good even with a couple of claw holes in the skin.
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amanda says...
Nice one Kath! My Gulf Ruby's got sunburnt :(
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Brad says...
Here's a link to the Fruit Fly and the Home Garden website
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Lee Gardner says...
Hi All,
Can someone tell me where i can get some of these bags from, I lost approx 200 nectarines last year to fruit fly and i don't intend to let that happen again. I am in brisbane and have tried hawkins and bunnings with no success.
Please help
Thanks
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Jim says...
http://www.greenharvest.com.au/pestcontrol/exclusion_prod.html
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Charles cant spell says...
Lee, If you want to net that many fruit I would recommend netting the whole tree if possible - http://www.netprocanopies.com/hail%20netting%20pest%20protection.php#BIRDSANDBATS is one supplier, I think green harvest gets their nets from them also.
Netting the whole tree can be quite simple if its not to large, or you could prune the tree back and thin it well to get less but better quality fruit.
Once pruned and thinned you then decide whether 20-30 exclusion bags or one big net is more appropriate.
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Lee Gardner says...
Thanks Jim & Charles,
I have already trimmed the tree back ready for this years fruit, I already have some tiny fruit and i intend to select the best and bag them, I tried to net the whole tree last year but buy then the fruit fly had got to them and the local possum had also found them so i was struggling to keep the net on with the possums nightly attacks.
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Haakon says...
I lost all my nectarines to Med fruit fly. I have a mosquito net that I intend to put over the entire tree and tie tightly when spring comes around.

My question is: Do I wait for the flowers to get fertilised before putting the net on? And when exactly should I put the net on?

many thanks
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John Mc says...
How's the pic enlargement going? Here's what I've been doing recently with great results. Easy to cover the fruit and comes with a built in drawstring. The best of all? costs less than $5 per 100 delivered to my door from China. I've just bought some larger ones from Australia at just under $20 per 100.

If they don't enlarge I'll post them on photobucket.
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kim says...
John Mc,
Where did you order your bags from
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kim says...
John Mc,
Where did you order your bags from
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John Mc says...
Here's a couple of suppliers I've bought from. It appears thaat the local supplier is now cheaper than the supplier from China.

China Supplier:
http://stores.ebay.com.au/colorfulworld888store
Hmmmm... he seems to have upped his price already.
He is now advertising 50 bags for $9.47 with free postage

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50-White-Pure-Organza-Jewellery-Gift-bag-120-90mm-xf-/290519435903?pt=AU_WeddingSupplies&hash=item43a44eca7f

Local Australian supplier. Postage is extra:

http://www.blingin.com.au/organza-bags-white-10x13cm-100-pack-p-9095.html?zenid=f5b128ab5b04d4c30c862145da4e7d8d


There are several sizes. Always order two sizes larger than you think you might need. I've only ordered the plain white, you can get all the colours under the sun, they look quite attractive hanging off the tree, even in plain white.
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Charles cant spell says...
haakon - yes it needs to get pollinated, you will see the petals dropping off, that about the time you can do it, however you need to wait for a decent number of the fruit to have set, shouldnt be any issues with the fruit fly until the fruit is olive seed size.... so yeah wait intil the petals fall off enough fruit, then net the whole tree and make sure you tie around the base etc
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Haakon says...
Great, thanks Charles.

Have you got a similar opinion about when I should net my figs?

Oh, and if I get mangoes this year, do I need to net them in Perth?

many thanks
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Charles cant spell says...
Figs are trickier, I dont even know the pollination timeframe in general let alone the random fruiting times in perth. Sorry, more experience folks than me here though so hopefully none WA folks can give you a representative answer.

Mangoes, dont have expeirence but my understanding is no, thankfully its the eastern state fruit fly that hits mangoes/papayas etc. My one fruit was fine this year.
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BJ says...
Fruit flies are back already, so I spent the weekend bagging my champagne loquats.
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Brad says...
you definitely should bag mangoes in Perth
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Brad says...
Here's a note on
How to choose the size of organza bags you will need
written as my bags just arrived and made me realise I never thought hard enough about it. I now note John's comment "Always order two sizes larger than you think you might need.". sage advice.I ordered 13x18cm bags. This sounded plenty big, but isn't.

The best way to size the bags you will need is to match the circumference of fruit which needs to be less than double the width of the bag. NOT the width of the fruit to the width of the bag.

I put up a couple photos to demonstrate this example.The bag width is around 12-13cm. The fruit diameter is around 7.5cm. Fruit circumference is 3.14*7.5 = 23.5cm and I have 2*width=24-26cm available at the top of the drawstring. Note that the string appears to pinch in a little so can be slightly less. so my bags may need to be destroyed to remove larger fruit on the tree.

see also: https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/fruit-fly-control/ and http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Gift-Bags-/161728/i.html
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BJ says...
Mine turned up yesterday and were smaller than I thought too!
They are okay for bagging individual guavas and white sapotes, but I may have to order more large ones for bunching fruit - grapes, loquat etc and larger fruit. Very hard to find big ones on eBay though...

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JUJUBE FOR SALE says...
mine have not turned up but I ordered 2 sizes:
13x16cm 50 bags for $5
and
size 26x18 50 bags for $ US10 (best offer)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50x-Red-Heart-Organza-Wedding-Gift-Bags-18x26cm-120233-/170642292711?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bb12bfe7
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John Mc says...
I see there is some confusion as to the right size organza bags to buy.
This link explains it all very well:

http://www.organzabags.com.au/online.htm
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Julie says...
Useful link, thanks John.
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Vanessa says...
Try www.thepouchplace.com.au they have heaps of sizes
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au0rey says...
Wow great thread!!!

Few questions to you guys :

1. Why do we need to be so concerned about the sizes? Why cant we buy the largest possible ones? The largest can be used to protect like say half a branch of fruits eg peaches. Or it still can be used to net one fruit right??

2. I saw on tele once that a gardener used black organza. Can I know if the colour will make a difference? What is the best colour to use? Will certain colours attract certain animals more? Or will black help ripening better or white reflect off sunlight etc? You know what I mean? I feel that it is not just about making the tree look pretty but to maximise the use of the bags for yummy protected fruits.

3. I dont get fruit flies here (fingers crossed) but do you guys think these bags will protect fruits against birds? I know wont work on possums cos they will try to pluck the fruit, even if the fruit cannot be eaten but if plucked not fully ripened, it is still lost. Fruits like peaches wont ripen after plucking prematurely.

THanks guys! Thanks for the helpful links!
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John Mc says...
I think I can help with a couple of questions.
1. I think it's just a cost factor. I'm using 16cm x 22cm organza bags ($33 del per 100)for figs. That same size covers a complete bunch of loquats nicely.
The smaller bags are $10 cheaper per 100.
2. I'd like to know more on the colour aspect as well. ATM I'm using white and silver.
3. Last year I had a bird strike on the guavas. I have a growing family of king parrots, and do they know how to damage a crop? The bags limited the damage to half a dozen fruit, they worked hard to get through the bags, which were damaged beyond repair. all the rest were left untouched, not to mention no FF.
Not a bad compromise.
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au0rey says...
Thanks John! Well-answered.
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Julie says...
I found three peaches on the ground today - seem to have been pecked by birds. They are not ripe yet, but starting to colour up. I hope I have John Mc's experience - I don't mind losing s few, but not the lot!

I bought blue bags, because birds are not attracted to blue - supposedly.
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au0rey says...
Yeah it isnt nice losing fruits like that. I lost a few to possums plucking them but leaving them tangling in the individual cut nets I put up around them. Still cant eat and have to throw them out.

I saw on tele that insects are atttracted to certain colours eg the white on coriander appears to be a certain colour too them. And the yellow flowers on pak choy plants and curcubits certainly attractt white cabbage butterflies etc...
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MaryT says...
Thanks for suggesting these bags; my figs are growing and colouring happily inside them.
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Too easy!
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amanda says...
Good work MaryT - looks like a wedding tree somehow ;D
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au0rey says...
Exactly what I am doing to my grape bunches and figs though it is bit difficult to bag figs with all the large leaves, i got 50 good sized white organza bags fom ebay, 22 bucks incl deliveryi think is good deal :p
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MaryT says...
Great au0rey! What size are the big ones? I use the smaller ones for figs individually.

The largest ones I can get from blingin.com.au are 16x22cm @$17.99 per 100 (plus postage) on special today. http://blingin.com.au/organza-bags-silver-print-16x22cm-100-pack-p-9090.html but they wouldn't be big enough for bunches.

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au0rey says...
Hi MaryT, mine are 23x17cm...fit my grape bunches just right...wish i can get bigger ones though. Wow yours is better deal! Thought mine's already cheap! Thanks. :)
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MaryT says...
They are on special at 40% off au0rey or they are quite dear; and it's only the silver print that's on sale. Also blingin.com.au has a minimum order of $40 and postage outside of major cities are more expensive. They're quick - I received my order the very next day.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Just to alert you all that I discovered today that my cocona fruit has fruit fly larvae and it was in organza bag so I think we have to make sure that the bag has to be much bigger so the fruit won't touch the fabric otherwise the fruit fly can lay their eggs through the material.
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coastie says...
Hi, I use exclusion bags which a bit more sturdier than organza and find I have to bag my tomatoes at flower stage,early is the secretm I think, the fruit is hardly the size of a pea...same for pumpkins.
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Chris says...
Are you sure it's fruit fly? Didn't think it was present in Melbourne. I would contact the relevant authorities if you are definite.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Chris,

I am in Townsville at present and definitely fruit flies and my lufa has the same thing. I should have done the bagging bit much earlier as coastie said.
I bagged mine about half of the mature size it could have fruit fly eggs inside already.
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snottiegobble says...
Hell Jujube, next thing you get will be cane toads, yet some folks still dont accept global warming!
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi snottiegobble,

We don't have fruit flies in Melbourne, too cold for them to survive the hash winter.
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snottiegobble says...
Sorry jujube, I presumed you were growing lufa, cocona, etc in Melb.
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bloody birds says...
birds do peck through the organza bags. on a pear tree the blue organza bags got pecked through, while white callico wasn't
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Julie says...
My experience too 'bloody birds'. You do know you can choose a name for yourself - now you are stuck with a title!
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John Mc says...
Yes sg, I'll put my hand up, I'm one of those horrible skeptics.
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Julie says...
Starting to plan for spring/summer, so I'm looking at ordering more gift bags.

Any feedback on colour of bags? What worked best? I have found 20cm x 30cm bags, $15.99 for 100, which compares well to prices mentioned on this thread.

I need fairly large ones for loquats,to deter birds, as I don't get FF on them.

I used blue last year, which didn't put off the birds as well as I expected. Thinking of ordering white, but they also have black. What was your experience?
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Xiem says...
Would it make any difference if you doubled up?? Perhaps one slightly smaller inside the other. The air gap between them might be a barrier to probing beaks.
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John Mc says...
In my experience they concentrate their efforts on a much smaller percentage of bagged fruit compared to fruit out in the open. The bags definately slow them down, and the bonus is, absolutely no fruit fly.
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M Nash says...
There easy to sow up yourself guys?
Last year I bagged about 50% of individual fruit and then one whole organsa sheet over the tree.
No birds, No FF, But I did get hacked by the walabys.
I used cable ties in the bag to try to keep the bags "ballooned" so that FF wouldnt lay through where the bag can touch the fruit. Im still looking for a better way to do that.
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Julie says...
It may be easy, but it takes time I don't have!

Still waiting for comments on colour of bags.
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John Mc says...
'I think I can help with a couple of questions.
1. I think it's just a cost factor. I'm using 16cm x 22cm organza bags ($33 del per 100)for figs. That same size covers a complete bunch of loquats nicely'.

Posted in January this year.

John, where did you get 16cm x 22cmcm at that price? The ones I see are about twice the price. I did find some at a good price, but I've lost the address.

I don't really need 100 - does anyone want to share. 50 each?
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John Mc says...
Julie, I bought 500 bags a while ago thinking they were only good for a one off use. Surprise,surprise, this is the third year of use with more than one use each year, so they are excellent value.
Needless to say I still have heaps and I'm happy to share some with you if you want to send your addy to
johnatcentralcoastskylightsdotcomdotau

Consider them an early/late birthday presie.
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MaryT says...
Received my 30x40 cm organza bags today; they are fantastic at 99c each plus postage (no minimum order) from The Pouch Place. www.thepouchplace.com.au. No more bagging individually.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I bagged a whole cluster of Gulf Gold plums last week on a tree only three feet tall to discover this morning that a f.....g rat or possum had gnawed through the whole trunk and left me an organza bag on the ground filled with little plum seeds.. next year I think I'll have to combine deterrents - bags as well as the famous Scat spray
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MaryT says...
They'll have to come up with a rat/possum exclusion bag for you, Phil. So sorry to hear it. I'm bracing myself for possum attacks; we have lots around here. The macadamia next door seems to be favoured by them; in fact I think they live there. And it showers possum poos around here as they play in my jacaranda and even sits on my swing. Wonder when they'll start dining.
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Julie says...
At least they are fertilising your garden Mary!
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MaryT says...
Yes, Julie, I just hope they're not fertilising for their own benefit. haha

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John Mc says...
Wow, they're great, Mary. That's just what I need for my miniature trees and grapes.
Phil, I keep B&B spread around, seems to keep the possums and rabbits away.
The possum trap works really well with rabbits if I run out of B&B.
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BJ says...
If you grow a passionfruit vine up a tree in their travel path or put an inga in their path they will rarely venture past these. I use both of these on either side of my house as sacraificial crops which keep them occupied and they very rarely come into the back yard - only when the big cockatoo flock had devoured everything else during the day and the papaya are stinking up a storm - luring them in.
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BJ says...
Also, the heavy mesh bags ones on ebay are something like 20 for $12, and are great for long bunch grapes, loquat clusters and the like.
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Julie says...
Do you have a link for those BJ?
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smileclick says...
I couldn't find then anywhere either (neither Flower Power nor Bunnings), so I made some from curtain nylon - see my video at http://youtu.be/ZicwzVUUN_g on how to make them - it only takes about 10 minutes per bag.
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MaryT says...
Thanks for the video link to your tutorial on making exclusion bags - impressive and entertaining. :)
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Julie says...
Wow, you have far more patience than I have!
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MaryT says...
smileclick I suggest you do not need to cut the rectangle into a vase shape 'cause the organza bags we use are rectangular and work perfectly. The wider opening would be easier to use. The extra room will help keep ffs at a greater distance.
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Db says...
Julie - in one of the post above (on 5th Aug 12) you said you 'found 20cm x 30cm bags, $15.99 for 100'.. Can you please let me know where did you found those at that rate?

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Julie says...
Gosh,I didn't keep the link Db - sorry! Sometimes I find things then can never get back to them. That happens sometimes when you follow a series of links.
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Db says...
No worries Julie, I thought you might have purchased those bags, so I asked you... I already found few ebay sellers selling large organza bags...
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MaryT says...
There's a 40% off sale of organza bags for those who are interested, at:

www.blingin.com.au
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allybanana says...
Whats the latest gosip on nets that cover the full tree do they work and where could i buy a bolt of strong fine netting to sew and cover trees with. Thanks in advance Ally
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VF says...
Ally, Greenharvest sells all sorts of exclusion nets and bags, and sell netting too. I've only used a full tree net to keep birds off, worked 100% for me. Organza seems to hold up well for the small individual sizes, doesn't perish readily - I actually bought a roll of cheap organza a while back to make into larger nets when I need to.
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wazzamcg says...
I found that if the organza bag leans on the fruit itself the fruit fly will still sting the fruit. The solution may be a much larger bag so that the fruit cannot touch the bag.
I'm leaning towards a net that covers the whole tree after what I observed last year.
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coastie says...
I have been buying fruitfly exclusion bags fro 'Vita-green' not sure of www.
They are stronger and don't rest against fruit, different sizes are available.I have the same ones every year, they are durable and some have been used for 5yr.
I bag the tomatoes when the flowers are full...don't need bees for fruit...the fruitfly goes in during the tiny bud stage.Better fruit too, no cross breeding with other types.
I have used mosquito net bought from camping shop for my fig tree works good for me.
I also use them on grapes,and baby pumpkins.
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MaryT says...
I am sure a tree net would be more effective but I grow fruit outside my front door in pots on my car space and having trees shrouded in nets would be a depressing sight. If trees can speak they'd say...
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Mike says...
The bags really work and do cut down on FF attacks.
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Edward says...
It's interesting to hear that these exclusion bags work so well for many of you, but I found that they were no match for fruit bats which ripped them all up and ate the fruit. I tried them on figs and on lychees.

In the case of larger fruit like mangoes, I found the most effective method against fruit bats, possums and native rats was to enclose them in 3 litre plastic milk containers. I partly cut these on 2 sides, far enough to allow them to be slipped over the fruit and tied at the neck. To improve ventilation, drill some small holes in the sides. A bit of work, but they can be reused many times. And I have had no problem with fruit fly.
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MaryT says...
Yes, Edward. We are only recommending the organza bags for fruit fly exclusion not birds, possums, rats or fruit bats. Thanks for the tip about the plastic milk containers; guess that's like armour :)
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Plastic bags may be another way to protect fruits from FF.

http://animagro.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/jambu-air.html
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Julie says...
Have you actually tried this Jujube? I think fruit would rot in hot weather, as the bags would collect moisture.

But as an experiment, it might be worth trying a few, along with the organza bags.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Julie,

No, I have not tried this type of plastic bag. I have tried with Coles shopping bags on my white sapotes only to deter birds, not FF because we do not have those FF in Melbourne. I punched a few holes in the bags just to get air moving. Rotten leaves or fruit can be collected at the bottom of the bag if not checking regularly.

The above practice is in Johor Malaysia and it is always warm and humid all year round there so it might be ok.
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Julie says...
No FF in Melbourne? Lucky you! Punching holes in the bags would let FF in I think - it doesn't take much.
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saranna says...
I've got four beautiful apples i
on my dwarf golden dorset and I'm terrified I'm going to loose them to something. I've been looking at getting some exclusion bags just in case? I live in Brisbane and have been told as well as fruit flies, birds and possums there is also a wasp that stings fruit? Any ideas?
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starling says...
you can buy 100 large sized, strong, reusable fruit bags that have drawstrings for just over 50 dollars here. They will keep out both fruit flies as well as birds. Probably bats and possums too.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-lot-anti-insect-screen-Insect-control-Insect-net-Fly-net-for-fruit-or-vegetable-21X24CM/1290562110.html

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John Mc says...
They're not organza are they? They don't tell you what type of material they are made out of. If they are organza, they're a little on the expensive side. You can get 100/ 20cm+ bags from Blingin in Sydney for, last time I looked around $30/100, and they are delivered within a day or two of ordering.
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coastie says...
Have a look at Vita-greens they sell great bags, strong and durable with a gather tie top, I get years out of them for tomatoes, grapes or anything else that I want to save.
They are about the same gauge holes as mosquito nets[which I use on my potted fig tree] but they are a lot stronger than organza,very easy to use as well and different sizes.
The closest I can compare with is a very light shade cloth, they are white.
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starling says...
Not sure if they are organza John, sent the supplier a message.

There are always these for the possums and bats, still have to bag the apparatus to keep the fruit fly out though.

http://www.gardenexpress.com.au/blossom-tree-fruit-protector/
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BJ says...
Organza is working well for me again for excluding fruit flies from my fruit. However, they don't stop the flying foxes, who chew and suck the juices out of the fruit through the bag!!! I've had to double bag the few remaining nectarines with heavy gauge netting bags over top of the organza to make it harder for the bats!
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