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Planting after Bio-fumigants

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I had a poor crop of tomatoes last season along a north facing wall ( No sun in the winter at ground level) I even lost a dwarf nectarine & peach that was for espalier training in the same bed so I have chosen 3 varieties of table grapes instead. I sowed biofumigant brassicas thickly early autumn & have just dug them in. I know it is advised to wait 2-3 weeks before sowing a crop, but will it still matter with grape seedlings that are dormant & in pots at this stage?
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Julie says...
sg, I don't really know, but your grapes are not entirely dormant, just leafless. The roots are still alive, so I guess they could still be affected.

What is supposed to happen if you plant too early? Do you know?
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Original Post was last edited: 16th July 2011 6:49pm
Charles cant spell says...
Well I am no expert but I would kinda think more important with dormant perenials than growing annuals, the composting action/bugs might not stop at the green weeds and might move onto your dormant roots as might fungus etc.

But you can test the theory and let us know, nothing like first hand knowledge :)
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snottiegobble says...
Julie, thats just it I dont know. When you google biofumigants there is a lot about nematodes, fungus, & other bad guys but, it doesnt even say if you can cook & eat these brassicas.( I tasted them & theyre not bad at all)! Slight mustard taste but leaning towards Asian greens.
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Julie says...
So what are these brassicas? From your post they sound like a special variety that works well as a biofumigant.
What are they called?
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snottiegobble says...
Julie, I was given a packet of Diggers mustard bio fumigant ( 50 sqm ) Brassica juncea & Brassica napus. I notice now that it says "NOT for human consumption" & I wonder why? I can only guess that normal bowel flora would be affected if ingested! With my guts thats all I would need, ; antibiotics!!
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Julie says...
sg, unless they were organic, they may have been treated with fungicide or something similiar. Hence the warning. Mustard is otherwise OK for human consumption.

Brassica napus is canola, or rape seed as it used to be known. B. juncea is just mustard greens. Both edible.
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snottiegobble says...
Sorry Julie it was a senior moment, I realise now it was the seeds themselves not the resulting plants, but hell you would have to be desperate wouldnt you?
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amanda says...
Nice n crunchy..aren't the seeds ground for mustard paste? ;-) talking of desperate - I finally found canned imported Tomatillos...I know they are heat treated but I am desperate enough to try growing the seeds!? :D
I wish they were allowed here - they really do have that 'salsa' taste...


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snottiegobble says...
yes Amanda, tomatillos grew well for me in Vic.but apart from our own personal use for salsa nobody wanted them. They are like green sticky flattened tomatoes in protective jackets as with Cape gooseberries. Of course Diggers have "Not for WA/ Tas in their latest catalogue!
Infuriating ridiculous quarantine laws!
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amanda says...
So they didn't mind the cool Sg? Or were they a summer only crop?
Are there any other kinds of tomatillos - does anyone know?

Can anything be used as a substitute? It does remind me of another flavour I can't place - but mine are canned so likely quite different..?

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Julie says...
amanda, I grew tomatillos some years ago, when you were still allowed to bring in the seeds. I gave up because I wasn't keen enough on the taste to be bothered.

I have never seen them in cans.

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snottiegobble says...
Amanda, they enjoy the same conditions as tomatoes, but can produce more fruit per plant given the size of them.
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amanda says...
Thanks guys - sorry about the thread hijack there!
(they were quite expensive Julie - from an International food store in Freo..but I was too curious to resist..)
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