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| About the Author peter adelaide 1st January 2009 3:48pm #UserID: 593 |
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| About the Author RolFlor a Ovahere 3rd January 2009 1:38pm #UserID: 316 |
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BJ says... I'm a little slow and still getting my ambitious project of self-sufficiency in the city sorted - but I am thinking of having a small hive in Perth (Belmont shire) - probably in the next 12-18 months. I'm really quite clueless about bees and am wondering if anyone has tips for Perth? (My desire is two-sided ... I love honey and I do want the little critters to rush about pollinating for me!) | About the Author BJ Perth 11th March 2010 5:29pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 11th March 2010 7:43pm #UserID: 0 |
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Charles cant spell says... Get in touch with a bee club I think there are a few in Perth. Start here, http://www.beekeepingwestaus.asn.au/associations.html#waas Bees are a reasonable amount of work not really set and forget, its not like putting goldfish in a pond and cleaning out the plants once a year. My mum has Hives in Pemby, look into it well before you commit as its a costly set up unless you can share with someone, hence joining a bee (Apiary?) Club. There is a good cheap bee store in Midland near the railway, Tonkin cross-under. One point to note, if you have an issue with bees not visiting you yard enough to pollinate your plants you are not attracting them. That mean there isn't much food, so if you want bees you need to plant appropriate plants to attract them. Even your own bees wont hang around or survive if you don't have a decent food supply nearby. I cant recommend the 'wild' multihead Geralton sunflowers enough, they also feed the parrots if you like that once they have finished feeding the bees. Happy to give you some seed. I will take a pick and add it to my edibles section tomorrow so you can see em in action. Certainly not looking to dissuade you as I would be interested in a hive myself, however I have a good supply of honey and I have loads of bees in my yard already so it low on the priority list. | About the Author Charles cant spell Perth Innaloo 11th March 2010 10:40pm #UserID: 2742 View All Charles cant spell's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author BJ Perth 11th March 2010 11:22pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi BJ - can I also suggest one of these in your garden - I find them the ultimate bee magnets! This is a Misty Pink Grevillia (Pink surprise, Kay Williams great too) they flower all year round, no extra watering once established, no pests..including parrots!? :-) I have many of these and loads of bees all year round. Rosemary is another excellent bee attractant. I know the Gero' sunflowers well - they are super tough (but will set seed easily...) Pretty too.
| About the Author amanda Geraldton. WA 12th March 2010 10:37am #UserID: 2309 View All amanda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Another plant that I've noticed attracts thousands of bees is the pink crepe myrtle. The neighbours have a big one on our fence line, and it hangs right near our balcony. When the flowers first come on it is absolutely covered in all sorts of bees. It sounds like a generator out there with all the buzzing. If you have limited space I believe they have 'dwarf' versions to 1.5- 2m. | About the Author BJ Brisbane 12th March 2010 11:32am #UserID: 3270 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 12th March 2010 3:59pm #UserID: 0 |
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Charles cant spell says... Nice Idea I dont think I have the space But I do want something to make mulch with so that might be a better option than a crop of Luecerne etc. Sorry I cant upload pics atm, server must be full again, so no Sunflower Pics yet. Look up Geraldton Gaint and you might find so on the web. | About the Author Charles cant spell Perth Innaloo 13th March 2010 9:11pm #UserID: 2742 View All Charles cant spell's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi RolFlor and everyone, Native bees are a lot less work than European bees. They are good for busy people that way- my daughter's kindy had a hive. They can be better pollinators for some types of fruit and vegies than European bees, but they apparently only travel up to 500m from the box. I haven't got one (I would like one though). In our garden, wild native bees swarm all over brassica flowers in particular. Diana.
| About the Author Diana Brisbane 14th March 2010 9:48am #UserID: 0 |
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Diana says... I did a few searches on bee-attracting flowers. Lots of people recommend multi-head sunflowers, French lavender, catmint and blue salvia. Also these plants for European bees, and native ones (stingless, blue-banded)- Rosemary Clover Grevillia Bottlebrush Everlasting daisies Eucalyptus Citrus Sweet basil Daisies Nasturtiums Camomile Hyssop Lemon balm Paraguay Nightshade- Solanum rantonetti Thanks, Diana. | About the Author Diana Brisbane 14th March 2010 10:22am #UserID: 0 |
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Charles cant spell says... You people got my hopes up on the hive based native bees.....unfortunately they only exist in the warm regions, and the honey is only havestable in the very hot regions of Aus. A very productive hive will give 1kg of honey in North QLD per year, and the process of extraction from the hive looks very slow n painful. WESTERN AUSTRALIA Stingless bees occur only from the Hamersley Ranges northwards in Western Australia. The species found in these areas are not currently available for commercial sale. So not an option for Perth, Tas, Vic, NSW etc, from a temperature warm season length perspective. So its either European bees or just plant garlic chives (best plant I have for local bees), leaks and other burrowing bee attracting plants. | About the Author Charles cant spell Perth Innaloo 14th March 2010 3:50pm #UserID: 2742 View All Charles cant spell's Edible Fruit Trees |
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speedy says... CharlesCS, if you find a hive of Trigona carbonaria, they should do ok in Perth's climate. I reckon they'll go anywhere you can grow a Mango, as a rough guide. I'd give them a go , and just make sure you give climate protection , from direct midday sun, wind and cold for more info try ANB forum http://www.australiannativebees.com/ | About the Author speedy Nth Vic 15th March 2010 12:17am #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author BJ Perth 15th March 2010 10:21am #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... On of the things that really concerns me about native bees is how easily I could hurt them. A rookie error and attempt to harvest honey if the hive was stressed could cause significant harm. Hardly the sustainability I'm aiming for! As the stinging bees make more honey I'd be less concerned about making such a mistake. I've a lot of research still to do; and like Charles my desire is more of a "want" than a "need" ... I'll keep the post updated as I discover any more information (I might just have to e-mail the local professionals and go to a few seminars) | About the Author BJ Perth 15th March 2010 1:21pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... What is happening to our bees? I wonder if our councils should be making bee habitats in our inner suburbs reserves, parks etc - not for the honey - but for the fact that we depend on them. Not many people would want a hive in their backyard..understandably. Probably better than planting public food trees. | About the Author amanda Geraldton. WA 21st March 2010 11:48am #UserID: 2309 View All amanda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VLR says... There is already a problem with feral honey bees taking over nesting sites of native birds so I don't think that should be encouraged. At least one Perth council has a Feral Bee Strategy that involves the removal of hives from tree hollows in bushland reserves though if/when the Varroa mite reaches our shores we'll need them. A permanent water source helps attract bees I hear. For now I can only dream about moving down south and becoming an apiarist and have to settle with annual trips to Bartholomews Meadery. Mmmm.... | About the Author VLR Perth 21st March 2010 12:18pm #UserID: 2329 View All VLR's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 19th April 2010 7:51am #UserID: 3619 |
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Wayne says... http://www.aussiebee.com.au/buy-stingless-bees.html You could ask these guys, but I doubt it | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 19th April 2010 5:46pm #UserID: 338 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 19th April 2010 11:45pm #UserID: 3619 |
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Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US says... Oh, mabye this will help if you think they'll die-- I am located where all the native bees died out with lemon, orange, grape, (and rose, monarch host plants) and grapefruit trees right next to the where it would be. The temp. stays between 68(F) (winter) and 93 (F)(summer). I would put a bowl full of flowers and honey right next to their hive. | About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 19th April 2010 11:54pm #UserID: 3619 |
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snottiegobble says... Countries are now extremely cautious of introducing anything especially insects! I doubt very much if Aussie insects of any description would be allowed into USA. They now believe that GM canola crops are affecting honey bees in a frightening way! They literally cannot find their way home to their hive after working a GM crop which means that they succumb to the cold & damp of the night & their larvae, juvenile inside workers & queens slowly starve to death as the colony depletes. Isnt Alzheimers enough for us humans to contend with??? American Foul Brood is the disease that devastates apiaries & it rampant in Aust. Any beekeepers who find it active in even only one hive in Vic. must have a pit dug & the hives sealed just before dark & placed in the pit,doused with petrol & then set alight. All under the control of Apiarist Inspectors. It broke my F.in.L`s heart to have 17 hives destroyed in one night! | About the Author snottiegobble bunbury 20th April 2010 1:05am #UserID: 3468 |
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| About the Author John I Melbourne 20th April 2010 7:53am #UserID: 3012 |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 20th April 2010 9:21am #UserID: 3619 |
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snottiegobble says... Hi John, Do you mean honey bee hives from Australia or just the queens? I know that queens are sent all round Aust in little wooden boxes with wax plugs at the entrances. The idea is for the boxes to be placed in the hive & by the time the workers & their new queen have eaten away the wax plug from both ends ,she smells just like them & so is accepted as their queen! Of course the old queen is destroyed before this introduction. Its a case of " The queen is dead. Long live the Queen!" | About the Author snottiegobble bunbury 20th April 2010 1:31pm #UserID: 3468 |
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| About the Author John I Melbourne 20th April 2010 1:49pm #UserID: 1975 View All John I's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author John I Melbourne 20th April 2010 1:54pm #UserID: 1975 View All John I's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author John I Melbourne 20th April 2010 1:58pm #UserID: 1975 View All John I's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 20th April 2010 11:47pm #UserID: 3619 |
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amanda says... Guy-from-USA.. The first logical step would be an import permit? If all else fails - use flies or ants...they are pollinators in their own right. Your country has a bee-disease that we don't have in Aust (as yet...) so u may go to all the expense of importing, only to have them die also. Also - if your neighbours are "toxic" these bees will suffer also. They are only a "band-aid" - not a solution - to your problems. Anyway - this is a gardening type forum... I think u are in the wrong place - u need to contact a professional supplier or such.. Where, exactly, are u in the "warm USA"? It would want to be "warm" for our native bees..and a 2 miles radius sounds a bit silly really..(thinking from a bee's perspective, of course..) | About the Author amanda Geraldton. WA 21st April 2010 12:23am #UserID: 2309 View All amanda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US says... I am in a town near San Diego, CA. The two miles are full of houses and beeless, so there's no disease that can kill anything. Those big-time bee sellers won't ship to me, so in my googling I came here. I have fruit trees, and I'm going to use them for education (like my trees). | About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 21st April 2010 3:20am #UserID: 3619 |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 21st April 2010 3:23am #UserID: 3619 |
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snottiegobble says... Surely there are are gardens with flowers etc in S.D that attract bees, ants, hoverflies etc.? Arent there any birds that pollinate such as hummingbirds? We have a huge variety of honeyeater birds in Aust. They did so well with our apples & pears in Vic. we had to shake the trees because of far to much fruit developing! Maybe your answer is to grow plants (in your orchards) with flowers that are particularly attractive to pollinators. | About the Author snottiegobble bunbury 21st April 2010 1:46pm #UserID: 3468 |
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BJ says... The 2km radius isnt too silly. I thought the most popular native bees here had a very small forraging area - something like 500m? I do remember seeing those Hummingbirds in Arizona, so SD should also have them? Also, between LA and Phoenix I saw a few fruit laden cacti, so there must be polinators - probably moths - about!? | About the Author BJ Brisbane 21st April 2010 4:50pm #UserID: 3270 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 22nd April 2010 8:29am #UserID: 3619 |
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| About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 29th April 2010 12:02am #UserID: 3619 |
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Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US says... Now, I have a friend going to Aussie. He's is going to bring a hive to me! YES! All he needs to do is ship it and then it's to me! Can I have a friendly tip on how much food they need for about 2 months? All the stingless bee guys agree that they can use regular bee honey and yurn it into their food-- their honey. | About the Author Guy who's looking for aussie stingless bees that can be shipped into the US warm USA 15th May 2010 11:48pm #UserID: 3619 |
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Diana says... Hi bee guy, Australian stingless bees are an interesting novelty for sure, but importing any insect to a country where they are not native is a risk that isn't worth the novelty value. If you can't buy them from the USA, it sounds like it would be a new import. It's not just that the insect might become invasive (you can never tell even if it seems extremely harmless), but also that they may transmit diseases to your native and domestic animals. If your quarantine laws allow individals to import insects from overseas, they are being lax and it isup to the individual tobe responsible- I would be surprised if they do encourage this. Diana. | About the Author Diana Brisbane 18th May 2010 7:44pm #UserID: 0 |
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snottiegobble says... yeah I agree, when you look at all the insects that we have here that came by ship somehow it really makes you think & it costs the Aust. government( from us citizens) millions trying to keep them under control. Here are just a few : Argentine ants, fire ants, English wasps, European wasps, white cabbage butterfly, cabbage moth,German cockroaches,weevils, cockchafer beetles, pear slugs, codling moths,common snails,earwigs etc, etc. Get the message??? | About the Author snottiegobble bunbury 18th May 2010 9:01pm #UserID: 3468 |
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| About the Author amanda Geraldton. WA 18th May 2010 11:11pm #UserID: 2309 View All amanda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hey all how are you. The varroa mite problem all around the world is thought to have been caused when european honey bees were introduced to asian bees somewhere in russia, the asian bees have been living with the mite for god knows how long and have developed ways to keep it in control but the european honey bees cannot. the bees were then taken to west russia i think and the mite spread like wild fire through europe and the rest of the world. Australia is the only country that does not have varroa mite. With that said Guy, why would you want to potentially make the same mistake again Australia is an island continent and has been isolated from the world for millions of years and as such has developed its own unique flora and fauna and if a virus, mite etc was accidentally introduced into America is could make your been problem 100 times worse. its honestly not worth the risk. With that said what makes you think that Australian native bees will be better pollinators that European honey bees. if they were then wouldnt they be widely used in Australia for their crops? in reality the australian native bee doesnt make much honey and cant be cultivated like the european honey bee. the australian bees will probably just die, who's to say they wont become victims to varroa also? Australia does export alot of honey bees to America each year to keep your agriculture going and even that is very difficult to get through customs at times. The best thing for you to do would be to get a hive of honey bees and try to fight off varroa. the more hives there are in the world the more chance the bees have! for everyone else who is interested in starting up a hive. I started one a few months ago and its doing really well so far. i was recommended a book (beekeeping for dummies) by almost every beekeeper i spoke to and it is a really good book. Beekeeping isnt very labouring (you only need to check them say once a month). especially in Australia as the climate is warmer, for the most of it the bees look after themselves, they can travel up to 5km to find food so they help out your whole neighbourhood and they arent very intrusive or dangerous, i can stand right next to my hive with bees flying in and out of it without a problem. Regards Steven P.S. Its said that 1 in 3 pieces of food you eat exists because of a bee Einstein once said that if bee's were wiped off the earth tomorrow humans could only survive for another 30 years. | About the Author Steven Eastern Suburbs 19th May 2010 11:01am #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author Brian Lewis Brisbane 20th May 2010 11:16pm #UserID: 3743 |
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Steven says... Hey Brian, i just did a search on yellowpages.com.au and found some places that may help you: http://www.yellowpages.com.au/search/listings?clue=beekeeping+&locationClue=Brisbane+QLD&x=48&y=20 This probably doesnt help you but i got my hive at Bob's Beekeeping in Eltham, Melbourne, it was a good place, the people were friendly and the price was reasonable. And get the book beekeeping for dummies, i found it really helpful, according to the beekeepers i spoke to the only differences between beekeeping in the book and in Australia is that we only need two supers not 3 and we dont really need to medicate the bees. Regards Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Suburbs 21st May 2010 6:24pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author snottiegobble bunbury 21st May 2010 11:06pm #UserID: 3468 |
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| About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 22nd May 2010 10:09am #UserID: 1351 |
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| About the Author Steven Eastern Suburbs 24th May 2010 7:14pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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BP says... For those worried about heavy capital investment in equipment and medicating bees, I practice natural beekeeping in Canberra using top bar hives. For no bending, lifting and working at waist level I build Kenyan Horizontal Top bar hives. For completely hands off I have built Warre Vertical Top Bar hives. If you don't have the oppurtunity to be at Beekeepers Association of the ACT meeting for one of my presentations on hives, managemet and running thereof and want to look at natural beekeeping methods and results I have also posted pictures of construction of hives on a natural beekeeping website based out of the UK biobees which has a forum. Just google search if looking for the forum web page. These build or assemble faster than langstroths and you don't need most of the gear we use to run Lang hives. A side benefit is you get more wax harvest which is great because chemical treatments in Lang hives build up in the wax so you have healthier more valuable honey if into the whole organic thing. Cheers, BP | About the Author BP Canberra 24th May 2010 7:43pm #UserID: 3756 |
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Jantina says... Hi BP, haven't managed to find your actual article yet, but thanks so much for the info. So interesting, that UK biobees site has heaps of info for a beekeeper "wanna be" like me.We have many hives in tree hollows and bird boxes here, maybe if we build a Warre Vertical Top Bar hive a swarm will say thanks and just move in (we have swarms just hanging off various branches and things in the summer). | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 25th May 2010 1:30pm #UserID: 1351 |
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Rob says... I was looking into getting bees not long ago for a small suburban area and these little hives looked quite interesting. Which can be found http://www.fewresources.com/boulder/thebackyardhive I also looked into native stingless bees which dont produce a huge amount of honey but enough for a small family and the whole stingless thing means less protective equipment, but they are not suitable for colder regions. Check them out http://www.aussiebee.com.au/buy-stingless-bees.html Alas no bees for me until i have more room.
| About the Author Rob Torquay 25th July 2010 11:03am #UserID: 0 |
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hawkypork says... Hi Mick Bees can be terrific fun if a little freaky at times for a beginner. My first effort ended in tears however, when my bees got infested with American foul brood and I had to euthanase my non-unionised workforce and incinerate all the gear. Another hard learned lesson is although a extractor is an expensive bit of kit, extracting honey without one is a total palaver. Other things: I have seen people do a profitable sideline in bee removals. Bees are a feral menace. They occupy increasly scarce tree hollows at the expense of birds and other animals. If you are going to keep bees in the vicinity of habitat trees (virtually anywhere) you should understand how to prevent swarms from leaving your employ. There is a bee forum on the Bobs Beekeeping Supplies website called Ask a Beekeeper. He seems to be very patient and generous with his knowledge. I want to get bees this spring. My plan is to put them in the chook run and safely away from my small children. Now, about that chook run....
| About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 27th July 2010 5:27pm #UserID: 3904 View All hawkypork's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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DougBee says... Hi, I am setting up a hive in Sydeny and can reccommend the book by the DPI in NSW called agskills Bee Keeping, its now part of my bee library. We need more bees as we are the only place in the world free of the varoa mite and Colony Collapse Disorder...where Bees just dissapear. I can reccommend "a world without bees" as a chilling read and incentive to get a backyard hive going, they will not sting you and can safely be kept in a suburban backyard with little risk. Bees only sting as a defence so as long as you don't squash a bee or act agressivley to the hive they will not sting you....Feral bees can be quite agressive and are a whole different ball game. | About the Author DougBee Sydney 9th August 2010 12:27pm #UserID: 4040 |
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Steven says... Hey everyone I bought a beehive in march this year, so far they are doing great, ive checked them a few time. but no honey yet. im hoping to get some at the start of spring. Ive never seen or heard of anyone using a top bar hive so i would recommend using the traditional hive, but that hive does look interesting. I recommend reading the book beekeeping for dummies, it was recommended to be by every beekeeper i spoke to and it is a really good book. you dont need much room to keep a hive even the side of a house a couple of meters from your hot water unit would do fine. I also want to clarify, bees arent domesticated and wont remember you, or learn your not a threat to them. there isnt a real difference from captive and non captive bees. many people capture swarms of bees in summer and start new hives with them. you can buy queen bees which are less aggressive but even these will sting you if you are seen as a threat. Outside of their hive no bee is aggressive and will only sting you if you trample or sit on it etc. but all bees are defensive of their hive. If you want to keep bees then its inevitable that you will get stung, and every time you check your hive some bees will try to attack you, but as long as you have a smoker, wear the right ppe and only check them when the weather is right then 99% of the time it is easily manageable and over time you will develop a resistance to bee stings and they wont really bother you. that is of course if you develop an allergy to them and in that case you would have to stop beekeeping. Regards Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 9th August 2010 4:43pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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guy who's looking for aussie bees that can be shiped into the US says... Hi, me again. Turns out my friend won't get me a hive. So no one can just ship me one hive? Just let me know what type of bee if possible. I'll tell you where to buy it and I will pay you extra? I talked to some experts and they said that I had good conditions to raise them in. | About the Author guy who's looking for aussie bees that can be shiped into the US warm USA 19th August 2010 4:21am #UserID: 4116 |
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Rev says... Hey Guy you will find the whole "oh my god the bees are dying" thing is overated Honey Bees are exotic to North america you will have plenty of other bees to replace them if you look, just like we do I love my little trigona bees! buzz buzz and no sting i think you will find north american bees aretoo highly bred and controlled and thus susceptible to nasty diseases find a wild brood, or go native honey will be expensive but your crops will still get pollinated | About the Author Rev North qld 31st August 2010 10:49pm #UserID: 1806 View All Rev's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author guy who's looking for aussie bees that can be shiped into the US warm USA 2nd October 2010 1:18pm #UserID: 4116 |
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| About the Author guy who's looking for aussie bees that can be shiped into the US warm USA 2nd October 2010 1:19pm #UserID: 4116 |
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Brad says... despite the fact you've come across as rude and pushy, I figured it can't be that hard. 1 google & find a news article talking about it sending australian bees to the US 2 google & find the guy mentioned who sends them if you phone him, have the courtesy to figure out the time difference correctly first | About the Author Brad Como, Perth 2nd October 2010 8:28pm #UserID: 2323 View All Brad's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... We were talking to a bee keeper the other day that is 100% certain on the theory mobile phone towers make his bees loose their way home. He's always trying to take the hives to places that don't have coverage (or a weak signal) otherwise he loose's x percentage of the bees each time. I've defiantly noticed a huge decrease in the number of bee's in my garden this spring, there's probably only 20% of what there was a few years ago | About the Author Jason Portland, Vic 2nd October 2010 10:48pm #UserID: 3853 |
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Steven says... I might be wrong but im pretty sure the theory of mobile towers disrupting bee's navigation has been disproven. youll probably find there is a much simpler reason for there being less bee's in your garden. The weather has been much cooler than usual this september, your neighbours could have chopped down their flowering trees, people might be destroying nests or someone in your area has gotten rid of their bee hive. You should get a hive of your own. Ive noticed a huge difference in the number of bees in my backyard since ive gotten mine and every time i walk around my area i always wonder if that bee on that flower is one of mine! Im predicting next week ill be getting my first batch of hive fresh honey!!! A word of advice guy: First of all your on a gardening website not one dedicated to beekeeping, Secondly you wanted us to illegally export native australian bees to you so that you could destroy whats left of your bee population. Thirdly after the problems America is having with thier bees its almost impossible to export bees legally into your country so what hope do we have even if we wanted to which we dont because thats what has started this bee problem in the first place and fourthly the best way to preserve the rapidly diminishing bee population you have in America is to get people to own their own bee hives therefore if you did a simple search like brad is suggesting youll find many people in America who are more than willing to sell you old fashoned European honey bees!! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 3rd October 2010 12:58am #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author hawkypork Perth 11th October 2010 4:51pm #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author Caz Melbourne 11th October 2010 7:03pm #UserID: 4394 |
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Steven says... I think you misinterpreted what i meant. A guy from the US wants us to send him a hive of bees as he is very eager to start a hive in his backyard. What i simply said was this isnt a site dedicated to beekeeping. I meant that if he wants to find a hive or get information about beekeeping in America he would be better off going to an American forum dedicated to beekeeping to find the hive he wants. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 12th October 2010 12:22pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author BJ WA 12th October 2010 2:43pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... I read that book too. I wouldnt have bought it but everyone i spoke to recommended it to me and it actually was a great book to learn how to manage a bee hive. Yesterday i got my first harvest of honey from my hive. Out of 3 frames out i got 7 jars of honey and 6 take away containers of comb! Im going to make honey liquor!! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 12th October 2010 3:33pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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BJ says... Steven, it is your fault I'm buying the book!! (and also your fault that all I can think of right now is mead). Out of interest - are you close to the city? Did you need council permission to have a hive or just sneak one in? (I'm a little scared to ask just in case they say 'no'.) Does your hive impact upon your neighbours? | About the Author BJ WA 12th October 2010 5:19pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hahaha well im glad to have helped you! i cant wait to make the liquor. I tried some once at a bee festival and it was beautiful!! you are supposed to register your hive and for that you are able to send a sample of your honey in each year and get it tested for diseases like american foulbrood and a couple of other things and i think if your hive is infested they will dispose of it for you (i might be wrong with that) however apparently only about 5% of beekeepers register their hive and thats because they are commercial hives. if you get caught they either send you a warning or a fine and you can then register. After you buy a hive if you want to register it all you have to say is that you caught a wild swarm (as they want proof of where you bought your hive). Ive asked a few people and i dont believe its something thats really enforced. If you live in the city alot of people put their hives on their roof and you cant even notice it there. Im in the outer suburbs of Melbourne so theres a nice mix of country and city here. you have to keep your hive at least 2m from any boundary. ive got bushes about 3m tall along the fence which means the bees have to fly over it to cross into the other property, so far no one has complained and if they do just tell them they fertilise your vegetable garden and flowering trees, then give them a jar of honey. Im sure they wont mind after that :). But i was really surprised on how non intrusive they actually are. unless you go up to the hive you dont really notice them. Check on the net what the legislation is in your area because it differs from place to place but more areas allow them. If you cant find any information call up and tell them you just want to enquire. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 12th October 2010 11:46pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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jasmel says... Is there anyone in the northern suburbs of Adelaide that are willing to come and take a swarm of bees away for free? The swarm is located in a standard rose outside my front door and I think they have migrated from a large gum tree we have seen bees in for years. I don't want to kill them but also dont want to pay to have them taken away if possible. I can send a picture of the swarm if needed. Please reply on this forum if interested, thanks. | About the Author jasmel adelaide 13th October 2010 6:28pm #UserID: 4405 |
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Joe says... I bought a good hive through Bob's Beekeping Supplies in Eltham, www.bobsbeekeeping.com.au. Bob and Barbara are very helpfull towards beginners and will spend a lot of time explaining beekeeping to newbees.
| About the Author Joe Geelong 13th October 2010 9:37pm #UserID: 4408 |
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Steve says... Hi Lauren, I am thinking of buying some native bees for a community garden. A great place to start your research would be the link below; http://www.aussiebee.com.au/ You would need to see if any of the native bees suit your area. They are stingless bees which is a big advantage in a suburban environment,people who are alergic to bee stings are safe. I am going to build my own hive box, that way will be cheaper and disease free. I was able to find hive plans for free download. Hope you get some, we need more Aussie Bees. | About the Author Steve Kyogle. NSW 17th October 2010 6:57pm #UserID: 4430 |
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| About the Author Simon Adelaide 20th October 2010 7:15pm #UserID: 4443 |
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www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au says... RIRDC ( Rural Industries Research & Development Corporation) has recently released the "Pollination Aware" series. "Free download" www.rirdc.gov.au - Click on - publications / honeybee The series of 35 individual crop pollination studies relates to fruit trees as well as vegetable crops in both the recreational and commercial sectors in Australia. | About the Author www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au South Australia 23rd October 2010 2:27am #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author Wol Baldivis, Perth 24th October 2010 12:10pm #UserID: 4457 |
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| About the Author www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au South Australia 24th October 2010 12:57pm #UserID: 0 |
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hawkypork says... I was able to get a hive fully set up for about $150 by contacting the WA Apiarists Society. In addition I have been given a lesson in the Harmony Frame Rotation Method. (Actually, I havent picked up the hive yet. We had a new human join our menagerie recently and I havent had the time). This method is supposed to keep your bees busy so that they wont swarm. When bees swarm you lose part of your workforce and the bees can become a nuisance in the environment (taking up valuable tree hollow habitat for example). After a short lesson on the Harmony Frame Rotation Method I am converted and will be using it as part of my hive management from now on. | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 25th October 2010 3:05pm #UserID: 0 |
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BJ says... Hawkypork, Congratulations on the new addition to your menagerie! Did you just contact the WA Apiarists Society directly, or attend meetings? Is there a good way of 'getting involved' and 'getting the lessons' (I'm expecting my 'beekeeping for dummies' any day now and want to get a good idea of how I might go about obtaining bees!) | About the Author BJ WA 25th October 2010 3:47pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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hawkypork says... Hi BJ, Have a look at the website. http://www.waas.org.au/ They have meetings and a library. I emailed the president and he put me onto another member who is supplying me with the bees. I spent a day with him visiting a couple of hives at Forestfield and then looking at his hives in East Vic Park. You are welcome to come around to my place in Fremantle once I am set up. Consider getting some basic gear. A veil and gloves. I would consider a full or half suit. If you are secure from stings you will get off to a more confident start. After that a smoker and a hive tool. One of the most expensive essential bits of kit you will need is an extractor. The Apiarists club hires them out so that might be enough reason to join right there. regards, Haakon | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 26th October 2010 6:11pm #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author BJ WA 26th October 2010 10:09pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Wol Baldivis, Perth 6th November 2010 11:45am #UserID: 4457 |
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Steven says... Hey everyone. here is what not to do with your hive! :) By the way a good resource of information and networks that you might find helpful is http://www.vicbeekeepers.com.au/ regards Steven
| About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 15th November 2010 2:01pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author Jimmy Perth 16th November 2010 4:09pm #UserID: 2548 View All Jimmy's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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BJ says... If anyone is into catching a wild swarm ... on the corner of Kooyong Road and Fransisco St there is a block that should be developed soon. There is a hive in one of the trees on the block. (My husband is coming around to the idea of bees, he was asking if I could catch them ... but I don't think we're ready for the 'extreme') | About the Author BJ WA 16th November 2010 9:39pm #UserID: 3414 View All BJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Yeah that was a swam from my hive. they ended up on my persimmon tree about 10m from the hive. when i went outside there were bees absolutely everywhere!! they were finding every little crack they could find to start a new hive. they would find their way into the house, there were probably about 200 bees in the house. was a bit of a disater!! :) In picture 7 what i think happened is we accidently spilled the bees when we put them in their new hive and i think the queen fell to the ground with them and for some reason they didnt want to go into the hive box, instead they just hung there all night in the rain. it was an interesting experience!! I emptied out 8 frames on honey from my hive yesterday, i have a huge mess but i think i ended up with about litres of honey! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 16th November 2010 9:52pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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| About the Author amanda Geraldton Mid West WA 17th November 2010 1:06pm #UserID: 2309 View All amanda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Thanks Amanda. It was huge, i needed help to get rid of it. Im still an ameature at beekeeping so i wasnt 100% sure what to do. everytime i went up to it about 10 bees would be trying to kill me!! Ive heard stories like that! what a disaster. i was worried this swarm was going to end up in the roof or between a wall. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 17th November 2010 2:12pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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hawkypork says... Steven, If you are keeping bees I am sure that you will already know that bees are at their most passive when they swarm. You are not likely to get stung. I have heard two reasons 1. They are not protecting a hive so they are not so fiesty 2. They have engorged with honey and they can't bend their abdomens sufficiently to land a sting. Once they have set up in your roof is a different matter. I have heard that Sheltox pest strips will cause a colony to move on. | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 17th November 2010 3:07pm #UserID: 0 |
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hawkypork says... Jimmy, The guy I am getting my bees from in Vic Park is named Dan Dowsett. I think it is very unlikely that he would spread foulbrood (but not impossible of course, thanks for the heads up). The day I met him we went to look at hives with a mate of his, an apiary inspector from the the Department of Agriculture. His hives are registered and he is a senior member of the WA Apiarists Society. Nonetheless I will ring him and talk the issue through. This weekend I am finishing the grape pergola over the chook run. Once the building activity is complete I will be able to put the bees on a dedicated stand in the chook run, that way you would have to be in the chook run to get in their flight path. On Sunday I hope to be able to sit under my new pergola with my chickens and watch me bees as they get used to their new home. Happy days! | About the Author hawkypork fremantle 17th November 2010 3:17pm #UserID: 0 |
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Pooh Bear says... I Just found this story while googling for hive boxes. Does anyone know about this? how fast can they spred? http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201011/s3070055.htm Queensland Primary industries minister Tim Mulherin has confirmed 40 jobs have been cut from the Asian honey bee eradication program. Asian honey bees were first found in Cairns in 2007, and can host exotic pests and diseases as well as wipe out Australian bee populations. The minister says the jobs were short term casual work and were always planned to finish up now. However Maurie Damon, president of the Cairns and District Beekeepers Association, says he's worried the pest could spread further now. "Things can only get worse because they won't have the opportunity to eradicate the problem," he said. "They'll be monitoring, and they'll probably be controlling the reported sightings, but they won't be able to go out and eradicate this apis cerana problem."
| About the Author Pooh Bear northern nsw 18th November 2010 4:51pm #UserID: 4565 |
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Wayne says... Queensland is broke Pooh Bear, seriously broke. Our customs services are virtually non existent now, the only inspections carried out on imports is by parcel post. All importers of bulk items are now self regulated, the importer sign a declaration declaring the goods safe and that's good enough. Tim Mulherin is our local member and tells lies, I caught him out when he told me by an email that they were not selling any of our forestry land freehold, just the management rights, when in fact they had sold 35,000 hectares of it freehold to a Canadian mob We still have that fire ant problem because they can't afford to fix it, so you can expect these bees to spread -- but kept quiet | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 18th November 2010 5:49pm #UserID: 338 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au says... http://www.honeybee.org.au/ Above is the Australian Honey Bee Industry Council Website (AHBIC) The monthly newsletters give an update on the status of Cerana Incursion. For all new beekeepers you may find the national beekeeping competancy downloads on the AHBIC education page useful. | About the Author www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au South Australia 19th November 2010 12:10am #UserID: 0 |
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www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au says... Hi Wol How did you go with obtaining bees from Davies? If not sucessful try Fewsters. www.fewstersfarmhoney.com.au | About the Author www.gilbertbeekeeping.com.au South Australia 19th November 2010 12:17am #UserID: 0 |
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Steven says... Hi Hawkypork how are you. I was really surprised with how agressive they were, i went there expecting them to be docile, instead they were much more agressive than the bees in my hive. They didnt want to give up either!! Its sad to say it but its only a matter of time before varroa mite comes into australia. Its found its was to New Zealand and papua new guinea. The only thing we can do is hold off as long as we can and hope someone by them finds a solution to the problem. That swarm is my contribution to the global bee problem :) | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 19th November 2010 12:12pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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hawkypork says... Well I finally got my bees on the weekend. (I wouldnt recommend letting them fall off your trolley, opening gaps and letting huge numbers of sleepy cranky bees out. Leading to rushing to suit up and unsuccessfully pacifying wife) But here they are, there are not many bees in the entrance as it is early on a cool morning. | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 22nd November 2010 4:30pm #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 23rd November 2010 7:25pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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hawkypork says... Only good things to say about bees in the chook run. The bees and chooks ignore each other, the bees get to use the reticulated chook water, the chooks prevent ants and other pests from getting into the bee hive, the chooks clean up dead bees and detritus out of the hive entrance, people dont get into the bees flight path unless they are in the chook run (ie kids are fenced out). And the chicken wire I use is about 1cmx1cm mesh which acts like a solid barrier to flying bees. This means I can sit and watch within a couple of feet of the hive entrance behind the mesh and not irritate the bees. I have noticed plenty of pollen on back legs of returning bees so I presume they are onto plenty of local nectar too. I am wondering what type of flowers they are working. | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 25th November 2010 6:08pm #UserID: 0 |
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Steven says... ohhh ok well thats good new. I was also concerned with chicked poo and food scraps being so close to the hive it could cause the honey to spoil or create problems with diseases, if they both can work in harmony together it would be great as its ideal to have the together, Thanks alot Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 28th November 2010 11:14am #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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Wol says... Hi Gilbert, I got hold of Dave and he is just 5 mins down the road only thing was he was just heading off on 2 weeks holiday and said to give him a call in a couple of weeks, so will try him again soon. Would like to get the hive happening soon through so will check out that like. Thanks Gilbert | About the Author Wol Baldivis, Perth 30th November 2010 10:28am #UserID: 4457 |
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hawkypork says... Hey Wol, I have just bought bees from an amateur in East Vic Park. I bought a brood box with super on top, queen excluder, lid and bottom board with thriving colony for $140. I could have bought a nuc hive for $80 I think. I am very confident about the hygiene of the colony. If you want to contact him send me an email at haakonperth@hotmail.com | About the Author hawkypork Fremantle 30th November 2010 12:04pm #UserID: 0 |
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| About the Author Steven Eastern Suburbs 31st January 2011 6:35pm #UserID: 704 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees![]() |
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Scott Leger says... Honey bees which are the primary source of Pollination for approximately one -fourth of all Crops produced throughout the world and has taken over as Pollinator of many of the wild Plants that maintain the Stability of ecosystems are subject to various Diseases and parasites. Since the publication of the First Edition of this book in 1997, Investigation into the Pathology of honey bees has progressed considerably. Furthermore, several different agents of disease, some newly discovered, have been causing increasing concern in recent years in many parts of the world. Some new Parasites like Varroa destructor Anderson & Trueman and Nosema ceranae hitherto unknown has been discovered which has threatened the very existence of beekeeping industry and Crop pollination across the globe. Nomenclature of some of the existing Pathogens has been changed for example European foul brood causing Bacteria Melisococcus pluton has been changed to Melisococcus plutonius. Some new viruses and bacteria have been discovered. Source : http://bit.ly/p21jra
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jo says... Excuse my ignorance, but will this bee ever be a possibility for perth bee hives? http://www.aussiebee.com.au/new-perth-bee.html Maybe we could help save this bee? | About the Author jo perth 2nd September 2011 4:40am #UserID: 0 |
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Bryn says... Hi BJ, Just read your comment from 11 march 2010. I may be inheriting a bee Hive in the next couple of weeks, but I can not have them on my property (flat mate has phobias). If you still dont have bees and are interested in hosting some please get in-touch with me soon. P.S. I live in Belmont WA too. Thanks Bryn ButlerBryn1@hotmail.com | About the Author Bryn Belmont WA 9th November 2011 3:36pm #UserID: 6097 |
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bRad says... Hi BP from Canberra I was hoping you could give me some pointers on Kenyan style top bar designs and dimensions that work well in canberra. I have found lots of designs on the net and now am a bit unsure of which will work best in our climate. Particularly keen to find out the width, deepth and angle of the sides you would suggest. | About the Author bRad Canberra 11th November 2011 2:50pm #UserID: 6109 |
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Scott a Leger says... I would like to say something about "Langstroth on the Hive and the Honey-Bee A Bee Keeper's Manual Author : Rev L. L. Langstroth" I am a beginner with keeping bees. I bought this book so I could see examples of hive set-ups. This book has no pictures at all. I confirmed the front of the book does say "Illustrated Edition." I do not recommend if you're buying this book for the pictures. Visit here to browse this Text Book cover : http://www.printsasia.com/book/Langstroth-on-the-Hive-and-the-Honey-Bee-A-Bee-Keeper-s-Manual-Rev-L-1409912345-9781409912347
| About the Author Scott a Leger AZ 11th November 2011 6:54pm #UserID: 5687 |
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BP says... bRad. The basic idea is to have longer bars but less depth. More wax covers the top bar in the ratio versus weight and they do better in hot climates. Longer bars may increase the tendency of the bees to do their natural curving designs for wild comb so you will get good benefit from using a follower bar that buts up against the outside bar being built that makes them build straight comb or else bump their heads against the follower bar. Just move the follower bar back in the hive as they expand. You are lucky I caught this post as I have been offline due to various mobiles not working with the web site. Most of the posts, actions and developments in top bar hives is on biobees.com so if you go there the link bar at the top has an option to read the natural beekeeping forum part of the web site. Click that and enjoy :) PS I've moved to a farm in Vic. I had my bees in NSW while moving and unfortunately a neighboring farm their sprayed their paddocks. Within one week all my bee colonies died. Coincidence? ;-) | About the Author BP VIC 16th November 2011 5:20pm #UserID: 3756 |
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