graviola tree or soursop

HappyEarth says...
Hi Sonia, The soursop is a tropical fruit tree and without a temperature controlled greenhouse Id doubt you ever get it to fruit in Melbourne. Your best option would be to get your green grocer to get them in for you. Alternatively, you can sometime buy them canned or as a drink at an asian store.

Hope this helps,

Rich
www.happyearth.com.au

Michael says...
I'm trying to grow a grafted plant bought from Daley's in a large pot .I'm located in Sydney and I've been told that it won't fruit in my climate but I'm going to give it a go anyway. It's looking really good at the moment and survived one Sydney winter already with some really hard work TLC.

Rev says...
They are very common here in Townsville

i never noticed them much but since i had a really good drink from the pulp, a cheesecake and icecream, im a big fan now!

they are a tidy erect tree 4-5 metres or sotaller than wide
they bear off the main and lateral branches (Cauliflory)

some fruits are bitter, the better eating ones are not
as usual i plant all my pips from especially good fruit

it seems to just love this monsoon tropical climate anyway
the trees i see are not cared for as fruit trees, they are just forgotten garden trees

Rev says...
seems like most annona are like that

plain old custard apple seeds soaked in an oil make a nit killing insecticide too

and i saw on a bush tucker programme that aboriginals in arnhem land use the inner bark of an annona for tooth ache relief

Freda says...
I am interested in getting some info on how to get a small soursop plant (they are NOT the same as Custard Apple, even though same family) or even the tinned fruit or juice. Please reply.

Rev says...
Hi Sonia

sure i dont see why not
I tried the tea myself the other day from the leaf
its not bad, nice mouthfeel
better when i added in some Tulsi and ginger

They are pretty common trees, but mainly overhanging footpaths or what not, still plenty for the taking, ill ask the owners if they mind

how much do you need?
ill see what half a shopping bag fresh dries down to
i read 2g twice a day? something like that - on raintree.com

im of no doubt at all that it is the real deal. ive tasted the fruit off some

theres some reports of toxicity, but i believe thats from internal use of the seeds not the leaf. makes sense - plants love frugivores but are antagonistic to seed predators

I also have many seedling of this tree coming up from good quality fruits if people want to add it
just bookmark
www.tropicalfoodforest.com and check later under 'fruits'. maybe 3 months + though to get them hardened

sonia says...
hay rev that would be really fantastic of you , just tell me how much for your trouble and postage etc my address is P.O. Box 96 Cockatoo 3781 victoria thanks from the bottom of my heart let me know if theres anything i can do for you down this way

amanda says...
Sonia - I really hope you can get something happening here - have u tried contacting Daleys directly? maybe they have some contacts or such. Your cause surely worthy.
Keep trying sonia - we have a devoted buying/selling paper called 'The Quokka' in WA. Maybe there is one for NSW/QLD - where these fruit grow - and u get a reliable contact?
Fingers crossed.

rev says...
alright Sonia
ill get you some leaves and send em down
you can reimburse me for postage, ill put details in the pack
give me a week or so...

Hey Trikus, if you've got seeds of that baby im keen. i want to try it out in a place where they get regular -3c. Cherimoyas wont take it, but only just - i want to test the claims of A montanas montaneness!

trikus says...
17 d 36' 58" 38 S
146 d 04'12" 55 E

Ellen says...
Shermyds

I can give you a few from my 2 trees (as the leaves are renewing itself. As my trees are still very small.
Contact me on my email

emmanuel19972000@yahoo.com.au

Phil@Tyalgum says...
The local Asian grocery sells 35% soursop juice in a can for about $2.50, very refreshing as well as the added health benefits. I'm sure you could buy them by the pallet load for a good price.

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micarle says...
Phil, for a second i thought that was a six pack of soursop stubbies!!! YUM

Shermyds says...
Hi Ellen
I tried sending an email to emmanuel19972000@yahoo.com.au but I just receive an email that it doesn't exist.
My email address is mhydze@gmail.com

I appreciate ur help Ellen.. Thank u in advance.

help please says...
I am hoping that someone can help me, my husaband has been diagnosed with liver cancer recently and in undergoing chemo treatment and I have been able to source the fruit and puree and juice and I am looking for some Soursop leaves so I can make him some tea which I have heard is also very good for treating cancer. If anyone can help me please let me know or even if you can point me in the eight direction I would really appreciate it. Thanking you in advance. Janelle

help please says...
Thank-You for that info Phil will look into that alternative if I have no luck.
Ta, Janelle

Wayne says...
God bless your little man Sonia, we can only pray that he keeps improving

Kerry says...
You can get the powdered leaves online from Herb Wholesalers.com.au

michelle says...
Hi David, can i get some leaves from our soursop tree? my mom has diabetic and my relatives said soursop leaves very good, my mom tried it several times, and it's very very good, so hopefully i can get the leaves for my mom in here, or anyone can help? thanks

amanda says...
LOL! love it :)))

Faith says...
Hi all I live nere Brisbane does anyone know were I can buy the fruit down here thanks Faith

Michael says...
Hi Poppy,

If you live near a Vietnamese/Chinese grocery store than you could try buying soursop powder in tea bag satchels .Just add water ,stir and drink.Also how many leaves do you need ? I have a small tree in a large pot which will loose it's leaves over winter so I cut the leaves off for you but there won't be that much .

John Mc says...
Hey Poppy,
This oufit in far north Queensland will sell you as much as you want:

http://www.capetrib.com.au/

Scroll down the left hand side and you will see the order form.

SEMI-DRIED SOURSOP LEAVES
0.5kg @$20, plus a regular postage charge of $6.00
1kg @ $40 plus regular postage charge of $10.30
2kg@ $80 plus regular postage charge of $10.30

I hope it's of some assistance, good luck.

John Mc says...
Yes, I lost a small Soursop tree (seedling) last winter but we also had the coldest day in 60 odd years here. I have since bought two more, one seedling and one grafted and planted them further up the hill, hopefully away from colder parts of the block. Here's hoping, fingers crossed.

John Mc says...
My wife doesn't even know I went there. I'm going to try and talk her into going to Cabramatta one day. I loved the atmosphere of the place. I felt like I was in another country.
You can probably guess I don't get out of my local area much.

John Mc says...
Yes I'm just north of Sydney, on the Central Coast. There's a nice 4yo seedling Sapodilla tree fruiting very well not too far from me.
It inspired me to buy a couple of grafted trees, as well as the three young seedling trees I already have.
I just love the taste of the Sapodilla fruit.

Miranda says...
my new order from daleys just arrived yesterday. 2 cherimoya and 1 sapodilla - sawo manila. Hope this sawo manila will set fruit much sooner than my five year old Prolific.
I love mountain soursop too, but can never find it in any nursery. This has been on my wishlist for a long long time.

Poppy says...
Hey John Mc,

Cannot thank you enough for providing me with the web-link. I will contact them right away and order a good quantity to post them to my Dad in US. All the best for you Soursop tree....Many thanks!

Regards
Poppy

kuskus says...
Hi John,

The price is double now on their web site.

Kuskus

Monica says...
we have a fresh tropical graviola / soursop leaves ...
we hope to help fulfill the wishes
and get what you need
we are able to delivery overseas also
please contact to: monique168cute@yahoo.com

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David says...
Luck is on your side Mike ,go for it.

Navin says...
Hi Sonia, were you able to obtain soursop leaves, I also live in Victoria, and seeking this for my wife with cancer

snottiegobble says...
Samara, while you are chasing the graviola make sure that powdered turmeric & ginger are included in the diet 2 times a day!Hard to believe but a sprinkling really is nice on a bowl of cut up fruit. If you have access to fresh mangosteens & can process them skin & all (pericarp) you have another string to your cancer fighting bow! Asparagus in any form including tinned is known to have cancer fighting properties too! Best wishes!

David says...
Hi Mike , how did you go with the soursop im told the fibreless fruit carry this trait even in the seeds so comes true to type, is this true

David says...
Mike ,an octopus has 8 arms, how do you manage to get so many tentacles out there ,at the same time, your amazing.

MaryT says...
Mike and David, this site has become a good national community!

As to soursop for cancer; today I received an email about lemon for cancer. Sigh. I have an incurable cancer and other medical complications and everyday I receive good intentioned advice about all sorts of remedy. The thing is, if I start chasing all these cures I won't have time to live my life.

Yes, if soursop is a yummy thing and I have it at hand I would try it but lemons are looking more attractive as I already have two trees of them :)

Some say try ginger well I love ginger so I have decided to believe that lol but I won't drink raw liver pulverised in a blender if it makes me live forever. Anyway I don't want to live forever. :)

JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
According to this link about health risk of soursop:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soursop

Research carried out in the Caribbean has suggested a connection between consumption of soursop and atypical forms of Parkinson's disease due to the very high concentration of annonacin.[4][5][6][7]

I think we just have to eat everything in moderation and take care MaryT and everyone.

MaryT says...
Thanks Jujube for the warning about an overdose of soursop. I agree that moderation is the key.

This morning I ate a yellow cherry guava , a black genoa fig and dug up a great knob of young pink ginger (will stir fry with sliced beef - heaven).

Thanks Mike for providing more variety to my food garden and thanks David for your blessing. It's good to receive goodwill.

snottiegobble says...
MaryT, Interesting stuff for you & everyone who have cancer affecting their lives ( & who doesnt?)on
www.turmericcancer.org/ + whats below!

Several breast tumor cell lines, "including hormone-dependent and -independent and multidrug-resistant (MDR) lines," respond to antiproliferative effects of curcumin. Aggarwal et al examined cell lines "including the MDR-positive ones," and found they were all "highly sensitive to curcumin. The growth inhibitory effect of curcumin was time- and dose-dependent.... Overall our results suggest that curcumin is a potent antiproliferative agent for breast tumor cells and may have potential as an anticancer agent." (Anticancer Drugs. 1997 Jun;8(5):470-81). Other laboratories offer varying explanations but confirm the activity level of curcumin against breast , prostate and other cancers. See e.g., Ramachandran C, 1999; Hidaka H, Japan, 2002(Miami human pancreatic cells lines); Elattar TM, University of Missouri-Kansas City, 2000(oral cancer cell-line).

Mike says...
Mary T I am loaded with the strong tumeric and the Curcuma xanthorhiza if you want lots of it.The golden tumeric is not as goodI think.

I have been out in the garden harvesting today and have a good assortment.I am trying to crack the 1kg mark for a sugar apple and 1 or 2 have come close.

Mike says...
BJ my 2 are really productive and the fruit average about 450g but some are way bigger with a 920g whopper today.Soon as the season is over I will hack them right back and fertilize them heaps, but light in the N.In the other thread I mentioned I secured a few seeds of the red atemoya.Did the chempas pull through ICU?

Mike says...
Mary T,I am the king of bags (of all types) and my place looks like a chilli carnival.I saw the tailed chilli but I have many new varieties to try to squeeze in already.The imbalance in past trade can only be partly corrected by me sending you a parcel and one without rotting fruit.

Mike says...
Mary T you are way too generous and you already sent an excellent thank you package.I had better improve the haul for you in the next parcel and come up with good stuff this time.If the mekongs greens survived they are also called ivy gourd.

BJ says...
Mike, the orange chempedeks are cracking the soil now. Still waiting on the yellows, but they all looked alright when they went into the ICU. A bit dry, but their colours were alright. The Z4 abiu's from the earlier package are up, as are the Amber Jaks and everything else. The mangosteen looks happy too, so that's a huge relief!

BJ says...
Checked again and all chempedek are pushing through, with one orange an inch up already. No real special requests. Anything nice you have laying around will be fine. Maybe an extra few pieces of sweet potato. Two of yours are powering along, but the other two I cant find. Thanks again.

Mike says...
BJ I have run out of tubers of the 2 good types but can have them in my hands next Friday.I think I remember what came your way already,but I have marangs,santols,miracle fruit,kaffirs,pepper and various herbs 'just lying around'.

juanita says...
I bought this soursop juice from the asian grocer for $1.05, but i still prefer the sweet-sour taste of the fresh fruit than the can juice

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Tahmina,

I am sorry to hear your dad condition. Please contact this farm and see if they can help you

http://www.capetrib.com.au/shop1.htm

Good luck to your dad.

Lucy.

snottiegobble says...
What the hell are you talking about kert?
This poor person cannot use conventional medical means for treatment so we just let nature take its course do we?? What criminal activity is involved in finding something that may be 10,000 stronger than chemotherapy with all of its awful side effects ?? Thanks for deleting the Soursop link that upholds that theory.
Here it is again for those who may wish to follow it up.
In the meantime John/kert etc etc! keep your utterly selfish, dictatorial mug away from any natural medicine posts, because you obviously lack the brainpower to accept & understand alternatives!!


http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fruit-extract-10000-times-better-chemo

A--H-- You can keep on deleting this link until youre blue in the face,& I will continue to repost it!

denise says...
The extent of the law as I understand it is that a non-medically qualified person cannot prescribe chemical preparations and/ or claim to be a certain cure and/or extract money for the services. People who have seen great results feel duty bound to offer a way with minimal risk and great hope to others that may come across their path. Many have witnessed people suffering from side-effects of medications and seen it releived by eating certain natural foods etc. I personally was told by a doctor and nurse that my medicine had caused severe damage to my kydneys and that there was nothing they could do for it. After some natural remedies the symptoms had reveresed and I have had good kidneys ever since. My friend has doctors coming to him for natural remedies for their family as they are reluctant to see the side effects in their family.

snottiegobble says...
Kim, thank you for introducing it! I read with interest the reports on Callisia fragrans & apart from it being a very attractive foliaged plant it obviously has many medical uses. Some Vietnamese people swear by it. To fight the big fight (or to avoid it completely) I would say add
this plant & its properties to your arsenal! Next question is will it grow in Southern states even in a basket??

BJ says...
just picked up a mountain soursop. They smell fantastic ripening. Like some sort of perfect pear nectar/cider. They smell is certainly tempting, but ultimately deceiving. I'll sit it on top of the fridge for a few more hours, then go at it for some seeds.

snottiegobble says...
Julie`s post was deleted too with the GRAVIOLA link so here it is again. AND again, AND again as necessary!




http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fruit-extract-10000-times-better-chemo

BJ says...
Prick deleted my post too. Oh well, i'll post lots of nice pictures of my mizuho and champagne loquats soon :)

John Mc says...
Posts have been deleted at random across the board BJ, I do wonder if other forces are at play.

BJ says...
Phil, to be honest the Mountain Soursop isnt that bad. It isnt rich and creamy like the regular one. Kinda dry, but has a subtle pear cider taste. Smell is great though and it is easy care and cold tolerant. Not many seeds. Seem to crop more heavily than most regular soursop. I can imagine a few people would like them, but with room for only one, I can only grow the seedless regular one.

Phil@Tyalgum says...
k - I have a "Cuban fibreless" variety of soursop, it sailed through a frosty winter last year (deciduous) and looks better than ever, it's only about four feet tall tho.. I think it is an improved selection.

BJ says...
Mountain Soursop I know of have smaller spines than usual. They go quite yellow when ripe. Heavy perfume. Size is around that of a normal soursop, but dont seem to get the occasional really big fruit.

Mike says...
BJ it sounds like I had better lay my hands on one of those fruits and see if it passes muster and also get an ID on it.

. says...
The safest thing we can all do here is to simply direct people to where they can find what they are looking for...?

Daleys is likely skating on thin ice themselves...they provide this Forum...and therefore they are responsible for it....even if they would like to abrogate their responsibilities - it doesn't quite work that way these days...

. says...
it's ok...just be careful SG...ok? :) Not because it's illegal (which it is) ..but because people get their hopes up...and the results can be devastating (financially and emotionally) so it might be un-ethical. That's what bothers me the most....?

Does anyone know how much that "Miracle cure" for cancer costs - that they are offering in China?

And have u seen the ensuing emotional trauma when it doesn't work..? I have.

Mike says...
What a shame phil.I recall through the mists of the past that I said I could send some plants and seeds and listed what I had.In fact I haven't deliverd to all I said I would.Are you still in the market for a selection and is it alright for this time of the year?

Mike says...
Phil,I didn't follow through in sending to all those who I should have and then let it slip.Jantina with the pineapple tops is another for whom I did not come up with the goods.If I round up an assortment of fruit seeds,herbs,tubers etc that are suitable for your neck of thge woods will that do? Don't worry about bags as I am the king of bags at the moment.

Mike says...
Ok Phil that timing will be good.Do you have a preference for herbs,vegies,vines,tubers or fruit trees, or just see what you get? I will hold off with anything too tropical.

Mike says...
It's a done deal and I'll get your email address when you're ready to receive.If you have corresponded with the same forum members as myself I may be able to get your address from them.I don't know about surprises but I have not had many complaints so far.

klokanovic says...
Hey folks..

I have a young soursop in a mini-greenhouse here in Melbourne...I just put it in as the weather is turning.

Do you think it will survive its first Melbourne winter?

Amused says...
Hi klokanovic, Like David said, you can keep it alive and even fruit it. It will be a challenge and it is largely about the amount of trouble and expense you are willing to go to. A sheltered structure and a well draining soil will keep it growing. To fruit it you may need artificial heat / humidity, at least in the colder months. Reading the links of SG and others, You may be satisfied just growing the tree for its leaves. Good luck

David says...
Saw an episode of Gard Aust, some 6mnths ago told the story of a retired couple living in melbourne,specialised in growing cut flowers, now retired the family turned one greenhouse into a tropical greenhouse that the mother grew mango starfruit pawpaw etc so it can be done , even showed small mangoes growing on the branches, (no anthracnose there i think), so like mike said ,time and effort

Mike says...
Well I stand corrected once again.

Amused says...
Mango is a different prospect completely . The heat of Melbourne suburbia will allow you to grow mango without difficulty. Once the tree is established it will fruit freely. The fruit will be generally smaller but of a MUCH better quality than that purchased from the supermarket.
To FRUIT a sowersop "may"... and I think will require artificial help.
previous posts suggest that a beneficial brew may be made from the leaves. I have no idea on this but if it benefits someone with cancer I believe that the tree will grow happily, if not fruiting, in a sheltered, protected position in Melbourne

Amused says...
Possibly Jason. I don't know. I would have thought by mid spring the danger of sub 10deg C temps in Melbourne would be past?. In any case flowering can be delayed by aborting the early flowers to avoid cool temps.

Jason says...
I did that exactly; cut back the flowers that were exposed to cold. But after a certain point which you don't know beforehand ,they won't come back.

Brendan says...
Time to lose 'that swearing photo' folks :-)

If you want to kill tree flowers, use this :-)

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gil says...
hi thre, can somebody please help me , i badly needed to grow a graviloa tree or sour sop with good breeding i mean good quality. i live in townsville but couldn't find any. i am willing to pay for postage and trouble please get back to me asap. i couldnt bring from philippines it wont allow in airport. this is what my mum use and proven effective. excellent drink for female it really helps. please reply

Mike says...
trikus that is faster.I too have seen little variation in them.You may wish to ask Trina about a single genuine fibreless tree that she and Peter S are aware of and are seeking scion material.

Lizz says...
An intesting site is Cancer- the forbidden cures.