41 responses |
About the Author Angela2 Johanna 7th April 2011 5:13pm #UserID: 5154 Posts: 1 View All Angela2's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author PhilTyalgum4 Murwillumbah 7th April 2011 5:48pm #UserID: 4897 Posts: 14 View All PhilTyalgum4's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
John I. says... Diggers were selling a red pawpaw a while back (but currently out of stock) that did fruit in southern Vic. If you can setup a micro climate then maybe one of Daleys red pawpaws will fruit. www.diggers.com.au | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 7th April 2011 6:31pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Trikus battered Tully 8th April 2011 2:08pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
John I. says... Trikus from diggers website... RED PAW PAW Carica papaya 'Thai Red' The sweet melting flesh of the Papaya is the epitome of exotic backyard Fruit, but you don't have to live in the tropics to enjoy home grown Papaya . We've grown this self-fertile Red Paw Paw south of Melbourne, so if you don't get frost and you choose a sheltered spot, it is worth a try. | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 8th April 2011 2:36pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Trikus battered Tully 8th April 2011 4:04pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Jason says... When the bloke at diggers first got into growing rare fruit he was a bit (a lot) over optimistic about what he could grow. I'm 100% sure a lot of stuff he planted either hasn't grown or is long dead, I used to shake my head reading his articles about it in the newsletter knowing what was going to happen to them since I'd already killed all the same tender stuff years before. But we all get a bit overly excited in the beginning. You can grow red papaya in a greenhouse and maybe even in the warmest inner suburb if you have it surrounded by brick pavers a pond and brick walls :). Babaco and all? or at least most of the other related species can also grow outside in Victoria. But only about 5 or 6 species are sort of easily obtainable | About the Author Jason Portland 8th April 2011 4:12pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author JohnI Melbourne 8th April 2011 4:21pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Jason says... There are varieties of Red papaya that can get close that people grow in Southern Europe, South Africa etc, you could import the seed for those and should do ok in say Sydney-Adelaide-Perth but there doesn't seem to be one that will survive the damp ground over the long Winter in Melbourne | About the Author Jason Portland 8th April 2011 5:35pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Trikus battered Tully 8th April 2011 8:24pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
John I. says... Tried one last night. So I don't hijack this thread I'll post a description with picture in the lady finger banana thread. ( www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/lady-finger-banana ) | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 9th April 2011 8:37am #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
denise says... You can buy fancy hybrid papaya seed from alohaseed.com online. Their Red Queen variety grows extremely fast and tolerates some cool and shade.Sow in September, plant in February and put some temporary overhead shelter in winter.It is not a dwarf but the Improved Red Maradol is--- so suitable for in greenhouse or under eaves.but the Red Queen is much faster and bigger canopy. I can comment further after winter.The Gold Maradol can be fastish and may tolerate winter better..With soil that is highly enriched with organic material some better results will be forthcoming. | About the Author denise4 auckland nz 10th April 2011 3:51pm #UserID: 1929 Posts: 73 View All denise4's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author sydney 10th April 2011 3:58pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Trikus battered Tully 10th April 2011 10:02pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
denise says... I am outside of the tropics and the garden has only become papaya friendly this year. Getting trees established fast is more an issue than early fruit at this stage. I will try growing plants big indoors over winter and plant out in spring as suggested. I have got some seeds started of a super dwarf variety that grows to 3 to 5 feet tall.They will be suitable for all year round polyhouse growing. Eventually I could match named variety with technique and position and plant outdoors in autumn as you do in the tropics.Thanks for the tip. | About the Author 11th April 2011 9:39am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso ( smack in the middle) 11th April 2011 9:55am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
kert says... In temperate latitudes papaya does not grow from seed and fruit all in the same year. My impression from reading is that, like Denise, you grow one year either outside or protected, and then in the following year you get an early start outside with plants nursed through the winter under protection or from plants in green houses . You then repeat the cycle as fruited trees succumb during the ensuing winter. I have papaya, grown from seed, that are 1.4 metres tall. There are maybe 30 and I will try and leave some outside with only plastic sheet thrown over them . | About the Author sydney 11th April 2011 2:14pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
denise says... Hi Snottiegobble, Auckland is similar to sydney but not extra hot or dry air. We are moderated by sea on both sides. Frost is closer to non existent due to infill housing and the sheltering trees and bush where I live. We now have no frost in the garden.and last winter my mamey sapote outdoors required no covering and sustained its flush of growth all winter. Also carambola next to house is covered in flowers right now. There are now papaya sprouting in the garden all by themselves so I can now grow them and make rich compost for them. | About the Author denise4 auckland nz 15th April 2011 9:48am #UserID: 1929 Posts: 73 View All denise4's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
snottiegobble says... denise,sounds ideal for quite a number of subtropicals. its the blistering summer sun that is my problem & sometimes winter SW winds originally from the southern ocean! I havent experienced frost yet in my garden! I will erect a protective plastic cover over the papaya & hope for the best. This summer its flowers never really opened before going brown. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in the middle) 15th April 2011 1:13pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author 16th April 2011 7:11am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Olga Brisbane 17th April 2011 9:47pm #UserID: 5173 Posts: 20 View All Olga's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in themiddle) 18th April 2011 10:13pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Jason says... If I were in Perth the first things I'd plant would be Mango and Papaya, just saying :) because I'd be quite confidant on both of those with that much heat. You have to remember during the growing season, Southern latitude places have hours and hours longer days than the tropics plus more extreme heat. It means you can get away with growing lots of things. In the Valley of California you can get away with growing almost anything and that place is pretty much 40 degrees North but has the heat and day length to get away with it | About the Author Jason Portland 19th April 2011 3:58am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
Reply |
| Remember to
LIKE this Answer(0)
LIKE this Question (0)
Original Post was last edited: 19th April 2011 4:01am | |||||||
About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in the middle) 19th April 2011 11:42am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Jason says... I've met people online in and around Perth with fruiting mangos a few times and also in Adelaide. Mildura is the only place along that latitude I don't know of any but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible. Kensington pride grow true from seed anyway so it's easy to get one of them. Valencia is it? that's a little more cool torrent I think, one or two are anyway. There's some small towns a couple hundred ks South of Mildura, when you pass through those and see orange trees all over the place as the most common backyard tree. That's when you know you are in a place with some serious heat to attempt some of the more difficult sub tropicals. You can see Oranges here too... but only in backyards of the extremists and believers :p. I heard a fairly reliable story of a fruiting mango right up beside the side of a house in Geelong (fruiting about 10 fruit a year), that's the only one I've ever heard of in Southern Victoria. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few trees with small amounts of fruit on them in suburban Melbourne, it's a big place so you can never discount miracles in there | About the Author Jason Portland 19th April 2011 1:43pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
Reply |
| Remember to
LIKE this Answer(0)
LIKE this Question (0)
Original Post was last edited: 19th April 2011 6:03pm | |||||||
J says... One of our friends is dating a Bee keeper who lives and works in mildura. I've had a chat with him about some of the crops they grow there and he has confirmed farmers do grow mangoes and yes, they do fruit on a regular basis and yes, the fruit does taste good & is sold commercially. He stated when they get nasty frosts and this can damage both the mango & avocado trees they have growing there. Other crops that grow really well in Mildura: Jujube. Stuff that's been tried and failed: Black Sapote. | About the Author J uopwey 19th April 2011 2:58pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Garden Stirling 12th May 2015 9:56am #UserID: 11756 Posts: 1 View All Garden's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
denise1 says... The tree is most probably a male. You can tell that if the flowers are narrow and hanging down in bunches. So it will not fruit unless perhaps it has a gender change. Dont chop it out as it may be pollenating some or all of the fruiting trees. Female flowers are single or in tight bunches close to the trunk and they are plump with a small fruit inside the flower. They need to be pollenated. There are trees that are bisexual so can pollenate themselves or other fruit bearer flowers. It is good to plant more papaya plants than you need so you can cull unwanted plants such as excess males. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 12th May 2015 10:26am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Waterfall Waterfall 12th May 2015 12:11pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author MIke T1 cairns 12th May 2015 5:53pm #UserID: 10744 Posts: 250 View All MIke T1's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Waterfall Waterfall 12th May 2015 8:28pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 17th May 2015 1:33pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Markmelb MT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 17th May 2015 4:13pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
davewastech says... Doesn't look wide enough for a female flower, but papaya flowers seem to vary a bit (maybe depends on variety?) I'd like to point out that (in Sydney or Perth) while papaya trees do well from about October to May, they suffer badly during the colder months. The problem then is that the fruit may never ripen because the growing season is too short. ie the tree's soft leaves get battered badly over winter and takes a few months to recover then flower and fruit. But by the time the fruit approach full size it's winter and the fruit won't ripen; they just get sadder looking with lots of black spots. By spring these fruit are just about hopeless. Solution to the problem is eat your papayas green - eg Thai Green Papaya Salad - quite nice. I've grown Southern Red papayas in Chatswood (Sydney) and a similar variety in Perth near north facing brick walls. The Perth ones did better because the micro-climate in my backyard was very suitable - ie well sheltered from Perth's strong winds on all sides. We got to eat those ones ripe. But my Sydney papayas I mainly eat green, except a small percentage that look like they may ripen. So I think even Sydney is difficult. Melbourne? - that's a challenge! | About the Author davewastech WILLOUGHBY EAST, NSW 17th May 2015 6:23pm #UserID: 7097 Posts: 115 View All davewastech's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
Reply |
| Remember to
LIKE this Answer(0)
LIKE this Question (0)
Original Post was last edited: 17th May 2015 6:22pm | |||||||
About the Author Markmelb MT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 17th May 2015 6:36pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 17th May 2015 10:16pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Reply |
| Remember to
LIKE this Answer(0)
LIKE this Question (0)
Original Post was last edited: 17th May 2015 10:16pm | |||||||
About the Author davewastech WILLOUGHBY EAST, NSW 25th May 2015 11:31am #UserID: 7097 Posts: 115 View All davewastech's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
denise1 says... You can grow them against a sunny wall with eaves and in a container of a mix that drains well. Also deflect extra rainfall away from getting into the mix or ground. The most salubrious approach is to graft the tropical pawpaw onto a babaco or mountain pawpaw stock. Because the hollowness of the scion can get infected and rot, the scion can be a 15cm seedling or a similar sized sidesprout from a tree as they are not hollow. The parts all need washing for some 5 minutes to clean away all sap that would otherwise cause rot. Then bind it well with plumbers threadseal tape. thats what I use and different brands vary in quality. I then put in some small bamboo stakes around it and place a plastic sleeve around it to hold in the moisture. The best hood height seems to be about 40cms. The results have been around 80%. After all that you wont get any root rotting. Now you just have to avoid the top going rotten. Being under eaves there should be less wetness on the leaves. Also avoid cluttering of plants in the vicinity to allow for air ventilation. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 25th May 2015 1:17pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||
About the Author Markmelb MT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 25th May 2015 7:00pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author davewastech WILLOUGHBY EAST,2068,NSW 25th May 2015 7:57pm #UserID: 7097 Posts: 115 View All davewastech's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
About the Author Shabaz Lahore 28th December 2018 8:15pm #UserID: 19557 Posts: 1 View All Shabaz's Edible Fruit Trees |
|||||||
Danny333 says... Hi Shabaz, The trick to growing good papayas is heaps of manure & compost, they are very hungry plants. Don’t over water them in winter as this will lead to root problems. Also keep an eye out for nematodes as they love papaya. I’m currently growing Red Lady and an unknown orange variety. The orange one is superior in flavour and productivity to the Red Lady. It has no musky aftertaste and it’s flavour has a hint of passion fruit in it, very nice! I propagate this one through cuttings to keep its unique traits.
| About the Author Danny333 RIVERTON,6148,WA 29th December 2018 11:43pm #UserID: 7962 Posts: 93 View All Danny333's Edible Fruit Trees |
||||||