persimmon

Jan says...
Was just wondering if it is getting too much sun reflection off your fence and drying it out. ( Almost like sunburn possibly) Try putting a sheet of shadecloth or hession between the tree and the fence to cut back reflection. Hopefully this will help.

Kath says...
The trick with persimmons is to give them all the good things in spring when they do most of their growing and then you will almost get away with neglecting them for the rest of the year. As the buds begin to swell give your tree a deep drink, fertilize it and mulch it with a deep organic mulch, it will push off beautifully for you.

Wendy says...
I just bought a Fuyu persimmon tree and know nothing about growing fruit trees, but understand it will grow to 12ft by 12 ft. I would like to "dwarf" the tree if I can. Since I have a small yard I would like to keep it in a pot. Any ideas of how to make it a dwarf? Can a persimmon tree survive ok in a pot? Any other tip/tricks I need to know? Right now, its a 10-ft "stick" in its orignal container with some leaves. Thanks...

Dan says...
Kath, do you know how often to a persimmon tree needs to be trimmed? Like every five years or every 3 years etc..? I can't find out this information anywhere.

Val says...
I have a fuji fruit whose leaves yellow on edges and curl and go brown on the edges. I have mulched it and try to keep water up to it - though it has been very hot over last month. I have also added thrive liquid to see if this helps. It commenced shooting over the last couple of weeks, but these leaves are now curled. Is this a mineral deficit? Does a fuji fruit require an acid soil? thanks Val

Dan says...
Thanks Kath. I couldn't find that information anywhere.

juanita says...
I wonder if it's a good idea to graft an astringent persimmon scions (don't know the variety) onto a non-astringent persimmon tree w/c is fuyu ?

Pictures - Click to enlarge
Picture: 1	Picture: 2

juanita says...
I usually prune mine during winter dormancy.

aneh says...
i have seen them in wandilla nursery.

darek says...
if yor looking for persimmon trees, go to the farms where they grow persimmon and bargain with them for a small persimmon tree. dig out and quickly goooo to house . put moisuture

amanda says...
Hi Val - have same alkaline sandy soil problem - I have 15 citrus trees (in limestone soils - the worst for iron chlorosis) - all doing well 4 me now.
When the trees where young i dug pits close by, filled them with compost n scraps and lots iron sulphate (and Zn sulphate too - the other criminal in alk soils) this got them going (free of interference from surrounding soil) while i improved the top-soil - I use lots of manure, clay, iron and Zn sulph but mulch with (acidic) pine bark for the long term solution.
I also keep an eye on Manganese deficiency but have had no prob's yet. These 3 worst culprits in alkaline sandy loam. My trees 3 yrs old and got 2 full buckets off my west indian lime last week - so proud of myself/the tree!!. U can use agricultural sulphate to acidify soil too. The pine bark has worked so well that i now just chuck the iron and zinc sulphate on top and water the whole lot in.
A few of my trees get burnt margins - this is usually a classic sign of K+ deficiency or salinity. I corrected for K+ to no avail - I realise now it's just simple sun n wind burn damage. Trees affected by this for my conditions are mainly the Fuyu, loquat, jaboticabas and grapes.
As i have little luck with beans and avocados (which are very salt sensitive) I also hose my trees down now and then in the summer (i am close to ocean) I hope this is of some help.

Lochy says...
Hi, Can I plant a Hachiya persimmon tree in a pot? And do I only need one tree for it to fruit? Thank you.

jo says...
I would like to buy a Fuji Persimmon to go here in Broome,WA. Is our tripical climate suitable and if so where would be the closest place to purchase one and how do I know if the tree is "self fertilizing"? Can anyone help?

Andrew says...
Hi Jo,

Basically the difference between A and N/A is the tannin levels in the fruit themselves-with A types the fruit must be very very ripe and soft, with N/A it can be picked quite hard and from what i have heard tastes pretty good!!I think most persimmons are self pollinating

.I am after a NA next as i have an A type "hichya" and would like to compare growth habits and the likes.Im not sure bout where and when in Broome, maybe the best bet is to ring Daleys and ask to talk to kath.

There is dwarf/semi dwarf and full size so maybe depending where you are going to plant, would be best to ask some questions.

Hope that helps Jo!!

amanda says...
I have a Fuyu that I got at Bunnings a year ago - it was an advanced tree as that what all they had. I didn't hold out much hope for it here - but lo and behold - it is carrying about 8 fruit in it's first season and doing well.

It's a pretty tough plant as it's sandy, windy, hot and salty here!

elie says...
december, january, after you pick up the fruits and the leaves drop you can prune any tree

Mish says...
Hi Randall

My Ichikikijiro did the same thing... although it was sunburnt when I purchased it from Tass1 Trees. I think wind burn is also a factor at the moment. Well I hope it is this and not something more sinister. I would love to show you a picture but all the damaged leaves have since blown off. There is a photo on my edibles page (just use the link on the right). My tree does have some new growth on the top, otherwise it is just a stick.

They like acid to neutral (ph 6.5 - 7.0) well drained soil. Do not mulch too close to the trunk as they are susceptible to collar rot and root rot if they are over watered. I give mine a deep water once a week and a surface sprinkle when the temp is going to be over 33/34.

I used Drought Shield on the new growth to help it retain leaf moisture from the heat and wind and so far they are still looking healthy, but it didn't do much for the damaged leaves.

I will upload a picture later, and hopefully someone will confirm that it is no more than heat and wind damage and not a disease or something else.

The picture is the one from my edibles page which I took a few weeks ago. I will post a recent one as soon as I can.

Pictures - Click to enlarge
Picture: 1

Glory says...
Hi i have a two years old Hachiya Japanese persimmon. This year it has 4 fruits. Could you tell me anyone How do i know the fruit is ripe or not? Thanks

Maria says...
Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for the right Persimmon variety for my yard and could use some help. I'm in a bad fruit fly area but have enough cold in winter for a short reprieve. I was told by a friend to buy a late ripening astringent variety for that reason. It also needs to be fairly small. Does a Nightingale fit the bill? I don't know when it ripens or if I can harvest when still hard. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

kim says...
Hope you can help - i have just planted my nursery brought fuyu persimmon tree into the ground and its not looking too good. There are some new growth, so i'm happy with that, but most of the older leaves are browning around the edges - can anyone help advise what i need to do to help my persimmon? I'm watering once daily (early-mid morning) so i think its getting enough water.

thanks.

kim says...
Thanks John. We did have some pretty hot days a week or so back, but my leaves actually went brown prior to the heatwave. Must be the drainage issue - i have been watering my tree with coffee grounds soaked in water overnight, so hopefully the soil is slightly on the acid side but didn't plant on a slope or mound (i only read about that part after my tree had gone into the ground). Next step is to invest in a soil testing kit - hope they're easy to use. :)

kim says...
So sorry to hear your tree didn't make it - i'd always assumed that persimmon would be one of the easier trees to grow. A lady i used to work with wasn't much of a green thumb but her tree is absolutely stunning and is very prolific, so i'd assumed that i'd have the same success.

i haven't started with the fertiliser yet (except for the coffee grounds)as i remember reading that new trees need to get used to the natural environment first(???) i will definitely be stocking up on seasol, so thanks for reminding me - when i last had a go at gardening a couple of years back propagating cuttings of various fruit trees, i remember i had some success using only seasol.

should i be cutting back from the watering? i really don't want collar/root rot, but i'm scared the summer heat will kill it.

i'm in the suburbs, so not too close to the coast and my little tree is kinda close to a wall so its somewhat sheltered from any strong breezes, but it is in full sun.

on another note, my soursop, lychee and custard apple trees planted at the same time in the same area seems to be doing ok... at least they look alright... fingers crossed.

kim says...
I will definitely take your advice on board Amanda - here's to hoping my tree will make it to a fruitful maturity. i was just at Bunnings earlier today to buy my pH meter... i guess i should've picked up the moisture probe as well - i will definitely have to pick one up on my next trip... any excuse to check out the fruit trees section for new stock. :)

Thanks for sharing your expertise with me - i will probably need to rely on you again in the near future. :)