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mimi starts with ...
My potted persimmon tree looks completely dead, I've bought it this year and placed it against an aluminium fence? Any chance it'll grow again in spring?
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mimi
altona meadows
23rd June 2007 11:16am
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Jan says...
Was just wondering if it is getting too much sun reflection off your fence and drying it out. ( Almost like sunburn possibly) Try putting a sheet of shadecloth or hession between the tree and the fence to cut back reflection. Hopefully this will help.
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Jan
Bundamba Qld.
23rd June 2007 11:46pm
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Melissa says...
Hi mim...relax...it is winter and your persommon is sleeping....we have many persommons and they enjoy the heat...I would mulch them though and give them a good feed towards the end of July/August
depending on frosts...we use chook poo and blood and bone ...by the way if you want fruit ...better check that it is a self fertile tree as many need a cross to set fruit...good luck.
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Melissa
Luddenham
24th June 2007 12:17pm
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Kath says...
The trick with persimmons is to give them all the good things in spring when they do most of their growing and then you will almost get away with neglecting them for the rest of the year. As the buds begin to swell give your tree a deep drink, fertilize it and mulch it with a deep organic mulch, it will push off beautifully for you.
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Kath
Cawongla
26th June 2007 3:32pm
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Melissa says...
Thanks Kath....the forum is a fanastic Idea....but is there some way we can be recognised as we come in cause typing up our email addy etc everytime limits the answering or asking re time ...however even if you can't- this is still a very good idea as many people are a little nervous about unusual things to grow.....thanks again
Melissa
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Melissa
Luddenham
30th June 2007 7:52am
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Wendy says...
I just bought a Fuyu persimmon tree and know nothing about growing fruit trees, but understand it will grow to 12ft by 12 ft. I would like to "dwarf" the tree if I can. Since I have a small yard I would like to keep it in a pot. Any ideas of how to make it a dwarf? Can a persimmon tree survive ok in a pot? Any other tip/tricks I need to know? Right now, its a 10-ft "stick" in its orignal container with some leaves. Thanks...
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Wendy
San Diego
2nd July 2007 3:23am
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Kath says...
Melissa - I believe Correy is working on a simpler log in for us as we chat.
Wendy - Your Fuyu will grow and fruit beautifully for you in a pot. To make it a successful and fruitful tree you will need to repot it every couple of years, this will be best done when it is deciduous. Trim its roots back by about 1/3 and the top accordingly. Pot it up again into a fresh good quality mix, by doing this every two years you will keep your tree small, fresh and happy in a pot. We have made a little video on growing bonsai fruit trees, here is the link
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/blog/2007/06/dwarf-fruit-trees-bonsai-bags.html
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Kath
Cawongla
2nd July 2007 2:32pm
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Dan says...
Kath, do you know how often to a persimmon tree needs to be trimmed? Like every five years or every 3 years etc..? I can't find out this information anywhere.
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31st December 2007 3:11pm
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Kath says...
Trees require little pruning, but can be pruned to an open centre or modified central leader. Young trees are initially pruned back to 80cm. New shoots are then thinned and pruned to form a well-shaped tree with wide angled branches. If branches become long and straggly, then these may need reducing in length for manageability and to prevent them breaking under the weight of the fruit. If trees start to overbear or become very straggly, they can be drastically cut back to give them a fresh start. They can also be pruned to form a hedge or an espallier.
From - Susanna Lyles book - Discovering Fruit and Nuts, p183.
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Kath
Cawongla
10th January 2008 12:15pm
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Val says...
I have a fuji fruit whose leaves yellow on edges and curl and go brown on the edges. I have mulched it and try to keep water up to it - though it has been very hot over last month. I have also added thrive liquid to see if this helps. It commenced shooting over the last couple of weeks, but these leaves are now curled. Is this a mineral deficit? Does a fuji fruit require an acid soil? thanks Val
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Val
Perth
7th February 2008 10:15am
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Bsilver says...
Val , it could be salinity.
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Bsilver
sydney
7th February 2008 2:09pm
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Dan says...
Thanks Kath. I couldn't find that information anywhere.
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Dan
 
10th February 2008 8:49am
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Val says...
Thanks for that suggestion. I have other plants in garden including citrus, that are OK, but tend to lose iron. I was wondering if fuyu need acid soils? Perth soils are chronically alkaline and sandy.
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Val
Perth
11th February 2008 3:04pm
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juanita says...
I wonder if it's a good idea to graft an astringent persimmon scions (don't know the variety) onto a non-astringent persimmon tree w/c is fuyu ?
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juanita
melbourne
23rd September 2008 12:54am
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shannon says...
I am having a problem finding out when to prune a persimmon tree. Can you help?
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shannon
Florida
27th November 2008 9:21am
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juanita says...
I usually prune mine during winter dormancy.
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juanita
melbourne
28th November 2008 12:35am
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Natalie says...
Does anyone know where I can purchase a persimmon tree in Perth, WA? Would prefer the metro area. Ta
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Natalie
Perth
25th April 2009 1:51am
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aneh says...
i have seen them in wandilla nursery.
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aneh
Perth
25th April 2009 12:12pm
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harro says...
Natalie Wandilla do have them and I bought one on Saturday at Dawsons Forrestfield $37.95.
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harro
Perth
4th May 2009 9:53am
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darek says...
if yor looking for persimmon trees, go to the farms where they grow persimmon and bargain with them for a small persimmon tree. dig out and quickly goooo to house . put moisuture
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darek
wa
5th May 2009 1:13am
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Val says...
Does anyone know where there is a persimmon farm near Perth? The suggestion to get tree from there sounds good to ensure it is self fertile.
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Val
Perth
14th May 2009 6:09pm
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amanda says...
Hi Val - have same alkaline sandy soil problem - I have 15 citrus trees (in limestone soils - the worst for iron chlorosis) - all doing well 4 me now.
When the trees where young i dug pits close by, filled them with compost n scraps and lots iron sulphate (and Zn sulphate too - the other criminal in alk soils) this got them going (free of interference from surrounding soil) while i improved the top-soil - I use lots of manure, clay, iron and Zn sulph but mulch with (acidic) pine bark for the long term solution.
I also keep an eye on Manganese deficiency but have had no prob's yet. These 3 worst culprits in alkaline sandy loam. My trees 3 yrs old and got 2 full buckets off my west indian lime last week - so proud of myself/the tree!!. U can use agricultural sulphate to acidify soil too. The pine bark has worked so well that i now just chuck the iron and zinc sulphate on top and water the whole lot in.
A few of my trees get burnt margins - this is usually a classic sign of K+ deficiency or salinity. I corrected for K+ to no avail - I realise now it's just simple sun n wind burn damage. Trees affected by this for my conditions are mainly the Fuyu, loquat, jaboticabas and grapes.
As i have little luck with beans and avocados (which are very salt sensitive) I also hose my trees down now and then in the summer (i am close to ocean) I hope this is of some help.
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amanda
geraldton WA
14th May 2009 10:36pm
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Su says...
Can anyone shed some light on how to espalier a persimmon tree? I bought a young tree in a pot which looks like a stick with few leaves at the moment. Can't see any branches yet to train them on wires. Do I hv to plant 2 trees so it is fertile?
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Su
WA
15th May 2009 2:02am
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Lochy says...
Hi, Can I plant a Hachiya persimmon tree in a pot? And do I only need one tree for it to fruit? Thank you.
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Lochy
Sydney
2nd June 2009 4:05pm
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tt says...
I have 3 Fuji persimmon trees (all about the same age) but only 2 of them started to bear fruits 2 year ago. The 3rd tree is the best looking tree but bears no fruits.

1. Most of the fruits started to drop on the ground in early June every year, so only about 10 fruits remain on each tree until ready to eat. What can be done to avoid losing the fruits so prematurely?

2. What kind of fertilization do I need to buy? and when should I apply the fertilization ?

3. Will the 3rd tree eventually bear fruit? The leaves are as big as an adult's hand size and the tree is thriving and growing very tall (over 12 ft)

4. Any particular mulch that I need to buy?

Thank you so much for your help. I live in Memphis, TN
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14th June 2009 11:49am
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jo says...
I would like to buy a Fuji Persimmon to go here in Broome,WA. Is our tripical climate suitable and if so where would be the closest place to purchase one and how do I know if the tree is "self fertilizing"? Can anyone help?
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jo
broome
17th June 2009 1:12pm
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jo says...
Sorry, one more question, What is the difference between an astringent variety and a nonastringent variety and which is the best Fuji to get?
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jo
broome
17th June 2009 1:58pm
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Andrew says...
Hi Jo,

Basically the difference between A and N/A is the tannin levels in the fruit themselves-with A types the fruit must be very very ripe and soft, with N/A it can be picked quite hard and from what i have heard tastes pretty good!!I think most persimmons are self pollinating

.I am after a NA next as i have an A type "hichya" and would like to compare growth habits and the likes.Im not sure bout where and when in Broome, maybe the best bet is to ring Daleys and ask to talk to kath.

There is dwarf/semi dwarf and full size so maybe depending where you are going to plant, would be best to ask some questions.

Hope that helps Jo!!

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Andrew
newcastle
20th June 2009 2:21pm
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DeannaTiffany says...
My father and his four kids have picked persimmons from the one tree we have found here in TX for years, and two years ago, he found another. Someone is knocking the fruit off the tree prior to it ripening. I am thinking of buying him two persimmon trees off ebay for Christmas, because it wouldn't be Christmas without his persimmon cookies, and we have missed that the last two years. I have found conflicting ideas on the soil type for the American Persimmon tree. Can anyone help me? He said he grew one from a seed about 10 years ago, but it died. I am thinking he overwatered it, or the soil is wrong. I really want this to be a special present to him, as he never really gets a "cool" present from anyone.
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DeannaTiffany
Dallas, TX
19th November 2009 4:25pm
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amanda says...
I have a Fuyu that I got at Bunnings a year ago - it was an advanced tree as that what all they had. I didn't hold out much hope for it here - but lo and behold - it is carrying about 8 fruit in it's first season and doing well.

It's a pretty tough plant as it's sandy, windy, hot and salty here!
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amanda
Geraldton. WA
23rd December 2009 12:32pm
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elie says...
i bought mine about 10 feet,I cut the top and lower it to about 5 feet it did good and grow big in a year and give me fruits
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30th December 2009 3:28pm
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elie says...
december, january, after you pick up the fruits and the leaves drop you can prune any tree
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30th December 2009 3:31pm
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Randall says...
Hi all, I need advice. In October 09 I planted this Non-A Fuyu and it seemed to grow well.... initially. I was away for 3 weeks over Xmas/New Year and don't believe our house sitter game my plants the love they deserved. We had a run of 40 plus days. When I returned I noted that many of the mature leaves had dry brown tips. I started watering deeply every couple of days and daily on the really hot days. I have now installed dripper irrigation and it gets about 6 litres over an hour. I have been watering every day or two depending o the max temp. The dry brown damaging has advanced to almost 50% of the majority of the leaves and the younger leaves are also appearing damaged (see pics). I fear that I may now be overwatering. Or perhaps the damage was done over Xmas and I just need to ride this season out. I planted it into good citrus soil and have mulched around the base. The base soil is classic perth coastal sand (sh_t). Would pH be an issue. HELP
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Randall
Hamilton Hill, Perth
4th February 2010 11:34am
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Mish says...
Hi Randall

My Ichikikijiro did the same thing... although it was sunburnt when I purchased it from Tass1 Trees. I think wind burn is also a factor at the moment. Well I hope it is this and not something more sinister. I would love to show you a picture but all the damaged leaves have since blown off. There is a photo on my edibles page (just use the link on the right). My tree does have some new growth on the top, otherwise it is just a stick.

They like acid to neutral (ph 6.5 - 7.0) well drained soil. Do not mulch too close to the trunk as they are susceptible to collar rot and root rot if they are over watered. I give mine a deep water once a week and a surface sprinkle when the temp is going to be over 33/34.

I used Drought Shield on the new growth to help it retain leaf moisture from the heat and wind and so far they are still looking healthy, but it didn't do much for the damaged leaves.

I will upload a picture later, and hopefully someone will confirm that it is no more than heat and wind damage and not a disease or something else.

The picture is the one from my edibles page which I took a few weeks ago. I will post a recent one as soon as I can.
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Mish
Singleton
4th February 2010 2:15pm
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Nick says...
Today I bought a 1.5m tall bare-root Fuyu at Laverton Market. When I got home I immediately soaked the roots in a dilute liquid seaweed mix for 2 hours. Then because I don't have anymore room I planted it in a pot that is 47cm wide. Does anyone know what the age is roughly and how long before it flowers. Also are persimmons easy to grow in pots?
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Nick
Altona, VIC
24th July 2010 5:49pm
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