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Rocoto Tree Chilli

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Britta Stenmanns starts with ...
As it comes from the Andes, can it handle the frost?

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/Perennialveg/rocoto.htm
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Correy says...
Yes the Rocoto Tree Chilli will handle mild frosts but not a huge one. In the case that you do get a huge frost it would be great to preempt and cover it with a sheet.

Here is a fantastic site that is going to tell you everything you need to know about this hot perennial.

http://www.rocoto.com/overwinter.html
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MaryT says...
My Rocoto has gone berserk! Amazing since it arrived as sick as can be, covered in red spider mites (undiagnosed for weeks) but came back after a spray of home made white oil (bottle of water with a tea spoon of vegetable oil and a drop of detergent a la Peter Cundall).
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ManishU says...
And its flowering so you should get some chillies within a couple of months.
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MaryT says...
Yes! It's covered in flowers. I think I would have to dry the chillies. Too many to use at once.
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Julie says...
I freeze mine in a plastic bag. Better taste than dried.
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MaryT says...
Thanks, Julie! I will freeze some and dry some. The dried ones have a different flavour; good for flavouring rather than eating. Hey I gave away another two Julie Tree seedlings today (to Fruity Tooty). So good to know that they're everywhere.
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Julie says...
Mary, you are a champion! You're being very generous with your seedlings.
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MaryT says...
It's good to be able to share a surplus, as you would know. Although I devoted a year to raising those seedling, others have committed many more years to growing them to fruit. :)
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MaryT says...
Now that I know that fruit flies love my rocotto and every fruit has been stung I have been taking them off and nuking them in the microwave before putting them in the compost. Now another huge crop appears and AGAIN they were stung - should I pull it out and forget about growing rocottos or should I leave it as 'bait' for fruit flies as someone has suggested?
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MiLK_MaN says...
I have a Rocoto Chilli tree that is 3 years old, and about 2.5 metres in height. I keep pruning it, and it keeps growing back!

They handle a light frost without an issue, as we get them a couple of times a year in northern suburbs of Melbourne. They start to look a little tired and sickly towards the end of winter, but as soon as the sun and warmth arrive in Spring, they perk up and go absolutely nuts with flowers + fruit. Had the hailstorm on Christmas Day not hit my house hard, I would of had over 200 pods on the one plant this year.
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MaryT says...
At last I have one nearly perfect Rocoto Chilli (had to bag them due to their being fruit fly favourites). Julie as soon as the seeds dry I will post them to you. By the way the fruit is sweet and fragrant but not without heat. I like it!
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snottiegobble says...
Julie,would you have some Rocoto seeds to spare. please?
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MaryT says...
I have more fruits ripening SG so may be able to send you some soon. Will keep you posted.
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Julie says...
Looking forward to them Mary!
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MaryT says...
Julie, they're on their way. Hope they'll get to you alright.
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks MaryT, is there anything you particularly want in exchange?
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MaryT says...
Nothing I can think of, SG; anyway I have lots on my hands right now. Should have seeds soon if this warm weather keeps up. Please email me with an address at tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au.
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Ady says...
MaryT could I get some seeds from you as well? I havent had rocoto's for 3 years now due to loosing my seeds
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MaryT says...
Sure Ady. More chillies should ripen in the next few days; will post here when the seeds are dried and ready to go.
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MaryT says...
Ady I have a few ripe fruit - please send address if you're still wanting seeds. SG I'll put them in the post tomorrow.
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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hot are those Rocoto chillies? If they're very hot, I'd like some seeds too if possible? Thanks :-)

Ok if I email you?
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MaryT says...
I would say it's moderately hot, Brendan. I can eat it raw with nothing else; at first it's sweet, fragrant and spicy but then there's quite a kick to it afterwards. Also they're not consistent; some are hotter than others though they're from the same bush.

I think its value is more in its being fleshy and juicy. I have enough crazy hot chillies so this one is a great addition. It's good to use for making sauce to add colour without adding too much heat. I make a relish with ginger and garlic and you see too much white if I only use small hot chillies.

Yes, email me if you want some seeds.
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Julie says...
Sounding better and better Mary! I have plenty of hot chillies too, so seems I could use this in diferent ways.
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MaryT says...
Yes, Julie. It would be good in salsa, I imagine.
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Jason says...
When I used to grow rocotos they were very very hot, almost as hot as a habenero in fact
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MaryT says...
Jason, they are inconsistent and I am surprised that they can vary so much but I wouldn't call them very very hot, like my red cherry bombs are. Those are so hot they're inedible.
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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, we used to call those chillies in your photo, Rainbow or Ornamental chillies :-) I remember eating one when I was very young, I think they carted me off to hospital!
Wonder what the SHU's are? (Scoville Heat Units).
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MaryT says...
Wow; I'm glad you survived Brendan. I am constantly worried that some kid would pick one and eat it because my 'garden' is the carspace right outside my front door. I probably should get rid of it but it is so cheerful. It seems that the symptoms of burning when you eat chillies are phantom - more a trick to your nervous system than real burns so they usually diminish in time without causing real problems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Mike says...
My brother has very hot dark globe chillies and I don't know their name.Rocotos sound like a chilli I would use as the bhut jolokia has ripe fruit and I'm not game to use them, retreating to birdseyes and thai chillies.If my moruga scorpion seedlings survive I doubt I'll ever use those.What can you do with 2 million scovilles, but it is the champ.
Is it true that rocotos get tree-like?
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snottiegobble says...
Mike, its taken nearly 6 months for the only 2 seedlings to germinate (Trinidad Scorpion butch T) to flower & there is only one green fruit to date with many of the flowers dropped off! Conclusion:- Not bloody worth it! Reason:- Can no longer claim worlds hottest chilli & who the hell would be game enough to cook with them anyway?? It would be like breeding the world`s most vicious pit bull & unable to risk petting it!! Mike we are crazy, mate!
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MaryT says...
Mike my rocoto is 'tree like' but its branches are lanky and brittle compared to 'real' trees. Maybe it's because I have it in a pot. The fruit is huge compared to the branches so they get weighed down. It has purple flowers; very pretty when in bloom (and it seems to be constantly in bloom now). I will send you some if you like. My visitors gave me a chilli yesterday; they don't know what it is. Not sure how hot either. Too scared to try; maybe a pit bull.

I should add that a strawberry guava given to me by my friends tasted more like a chilli guava because it was carried in the same take away box. Scary.
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MaryT says...
Rocoto on 'tree'. Mine is still bushy. The branches breaks easily like other chillies. The fruit on mine is atypical as Brendan suggests and compared to other images online. Obviously its parent had been promiscuous.:) I don't mind its relative mildness as mentioned above. It came from Daleys.
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Julie says...
Got the seeds today, thanks so much Mary. Puzzled by your remark about 'black seeds', as the photos you posted 8th April had black seeds.


Are they usually white?
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MaryT says...
Glad to hear you have the seeds, Julie. No, they all have black seeds but I forgot when I wrote the note lol. Just that I have been collecting seeds from the other chillies and they were all white. Don't mind me. :)
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jakfruitetiquette says...
MaryT, the pic is a brown or chocolate Habanero, Capsicum chinense. They are brown because they turn from green to red, but dont lose the green chlorophyll. There are probably a few different brown C.chinense types around.
Rocoto is C.pubescens, has black seeds, generally the seeds and core is hot, but the outer flesh not so hot, so can be used as "mild" types,BUT some plants can have hotter fruit.
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MaryT says...
Thanks jakfruitetiquette - do you know if the chocolate Habaneros are very hot?
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Ady says...
Hi MaryT if you still have some seeds, my adress is 143 esther cress. MooroolbarkVic3138 I always find chillies mild when theres a lot of cold wet weather around. last time I had Rocoto's I couldnt eat them raw but I have no problem with birds eye's
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MaryT says...
Ady - it's amazing to me that the temperature has such influence on the heat of the chillies. Pity my summer ones were all spoilt by fruit flies (I ended up bagging them would you believe); they might have been the hot ones. The last batch of seeds are gone but more will be available in a couple of days so will send those when they're ready.
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MaryT says...
Ady, your seeds are on their way. These are from a fruit that has twice as many seeds as the others and a lot hotter. It would be interesting to see if you end up with hotter chillies.
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Mike says...
Mary thanks for your letter.You'll be handsomely rewarded next time.
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MaryT says...
It's nothing at all Mike. After all I have your chillies growing in my garden!
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Brendan says...
Hi Mike & MaryT, I've watched the videos online about people eating the world's hottest chillies. Let's say there'd be about a tablespoon of flesh/seeds etc that they eat.
I'm absolutely positive there's no way in the world they could eat a tablespoon of MY birdseye chillies! They are 'only' supposed to be heat 9 (out of 10), but they are super hot!
My brother made some sambal with these, we gave a t-spoon (he insisted), to a friend who happens to be an international airline pilot, and he nearly died I'm sure!
He started sweating profusely, his face turned beetroot red colour, tears streamed from his eyes, he then got bad hiccups, rushed to the toilet of the pub we were at and bought-up his just eaten counter lunch plus the chillies! I can still see the look on his face when he emerged, he looked very crook!
We warned him it was super hot, but he said he's tasted the hottest chillies from all around the world, and swore ours to be the hottest thing he'd ever tasted! Go figure?
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Mike says...
My feral birdseyes are furnace like also and are favoured by asian friends.I reckon he'd be on a stretcher then if he tried my jolokia or my brothers butch T's.
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MaryT says...
Brendan perhaps the numbers do not correlate to how a person may react. As you know our tolerance to heat can be so different. I like heat but prefer flavour and fragrance. I wish people would concentrate on that when they 'breed' new varieties rather than the numbers of heat units.
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Mike says...
Mary they are grown for different reasons.My thai gourmet chillis are for eating but jolokias are the chilli of choice for practical jokes and morugas more suited for bragging.
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MaryT says...
Mike - swallowing a jolokia would be no joke and by the time you have your moruga going there'll be a new champion in its place.
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Mike says...
Mary have you ever heard someone say, no food is too hot for them and they can eat birdseyes like smarties? You tell them even if they are hardcore steer clear of the jolokias.I have seen this scenario play out several times with an inevitable outcome that is only funny on reflection.I should hold such people back with more vigour.

I think moruga has jumped so far ahead of the pack that it is all over now and rivals couldn't stand the heat.Surely there won't be another in the 2 million club.
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MaryT says...
I'm sure there's someone out there whose sole ambition in life is to propagate the next hottest chilli :)
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MaryT says...
My poor Rocoto is really taking a hit (more like a blasting) from fruit flies this week, though I can't honestly say for sure that they're from fruit flies. Last year they were sacrificial as well and I ended up with figs and guavas unblemished. This year I'm using organza bags; not taking a chance with this going on.
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MaryT1 says...
Julie at last I was able to sprout some rocotto seeds - what I had to do was to plant the seeds straight from the fruit (no drying).
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Juie 1 says...
Thanks Mary. I did get some germination from the seeds you sent, but they struggled to grow and eventually just gave up. I think I tried two years in a row - can't quite remember now.

Very disappointing! I wonder what a commercial grower does to get them going?

Only just noticed I left out the 'l' in my name! I wonder how long that has been there?
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MaryT1 says...
I see; well let's see how my seedling goes. I have them under glass :) The tree is in flower again so will keep trying. I don't want more than one tree but I like a challenge.

Didn't notice the missing 'l' until you mentioned it :)
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JohnMc1 says...
Probably easier to stick some cuttings in. My tree is chockas atm.
Can't take any photo's till I get my phone back, as silly as it sounds.
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MaryT1 says...
Makes sense John, re cuttings and the phone. I have also ditched my camera since I started taking pics with my phone. Only trouble is I have to be someone else when I use my phone to post on this forum.

Do you get fruit flies stinging your rocoto chillies? My tree has very brittle limbs so I am hoping seedlings may turn out stronger.
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Juie 1 says...
John: "Probably easier to stick some cuttings in.

Hah! OK for you folks who don't live in WA, merrily passing cuttings around. I'm green with envy sometimes!
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JohnMc1 says...
Yes, my phone has a macro feature and takes some beautiful shots, just not worth carrying the camera around anymore.
You will have to move Julie, or is that Juie lol.
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JohnMc1 says...
Yes, I do get FF but not all year. for instance, right now, the tree is loaded and no sign of FF, yet.
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MaryT1 says...
I think every seed I planted from the rocoto chilli must have germinated by the looks of the number of seedlings I now have :) When they are stronger I'll send you some, Julie (if it's allowed)...
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Julie 1 says...
Send them anyway Mary!(please!) I have sent seeds to US in a birthday card - no probs. Received some too, the same way.

A guy sent me a heap of Hatch chillies from New Mexico, but not one came up. Boo hoo! They are supposed to be something special - now I'll never know why.

Last year I grew Jalapeno, and they took forever to grow. I didn't get ripe fruit till winter! Kept them going, didn't prune them, and they are now covered in fruit - I have already picked a few ripe ones.
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MaryT1 says...
OK Julie, I will. I'm sure I have your address somewhere but I have not been able to find it :) Please email me, thanks.
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Julie 1 says...
Will do Mary. You are very patient, giving me another chance. If it doesn't work this time, I'm giving up!
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MaryT1 says...
I had thought that my rocoto is a cross because it looks so different from the images online. However, I read recently that one, they won't cross; two, those smaller rounder ones are the domesticated variety and three, my large ones are the original, 'wilder' kind. That's why it has the straggly habit. With my seedlings I will try to train them to a more erect, tree like shape (if possible).
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Jason says...
Mary, there's a few different variations in the rocoto species. Round, longer, different colours even. I haven't had one growing in a long time but the last one I had was the non round one and it was pretty hot !. Too much for stuffing and eating.
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MaryT1 says...
Yes Jason I continue to read about the many cultivars that exist out there. Mine can get hot but not inedibly so.
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Anna says...
Hi

Hope someone still reads this forum.

My Rocoto arrived mid April, and settled in OK. Then we had hail storm and it never bounced back.

It's end of May and my poor chilli look unwell.

Anything I can do?

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jakfruit etiquette says...
It doesnt look too bad. You want it to start flushing growth again. Try moving to a warmer position, maybe a bit of plastic protection. Try not to overwater, as with most of its leaves gone, the plant is now 'smaller' in its pot. Maybe some dilute seasol mix etc might help. Rocoto's are usually pretty active when day/night is equal, so it should respond at this time of year.
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Anna says...
Thank you Jakfruit!! My balcony gets a bit windy. The pot is the afternoon sun position.
In the summer the wall behind it will get hot!

Doesn't help my confidence that I started getting all my plants in April & May. Wrong time of the year....

Sage, basil and strawberries are keeping Rocoto company.

Habanero is going to spend the winter indoors. It's flowering so don't want to lose the flowers.

Took outside on warmer days 18-20C and all open flowers fell off

Have other Habanero seeds waiting till spring. This spring ill be first time growing a plant from seeds
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