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About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 18th August 2009 4:51pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cuong says... Hi Amanda, the trees are actually my parents. They feed it NPK blue and chicken poo. Also they cover the top of the soil with old coco-peat from our hydroponic farm so that the ground doesnt dry out too much in summer (stresses the plants) I think mulching it with most other things is good (like pea hay) Very recently they are no longer using the above feed and have moved too organic based fertilisers Synthetic fertilisers and chicken poo can do lots of damage to fruit trees as they are slow growing compared to vegetables (vegetables can take up nutrients faster) therefore using organic based fertilisers will help/eliminate leaf burning and dropping off flowers/fruit | About the Author Cuong Wilson, Western Australia 18th August 2009 8:17pm #UserID: 2684 Posts: 37 View All Cuong's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Hi Coung, I would love to have your Jackfruit and Sapodilla tree. My Jackfruit tree of 1 year has lost all it's leave during this winter in Sydney .It was doing so healthy and out of nowhere started loosing it's leaves and now there's none left. I'm waiting for Spring to arrive and if my Jackfruit tree does not recover I'll replace it with a Sapodilla tree. By the way is your pummelo fruit sweet ? My three year old pummelo in a huge pot ( Bien Hoa variety from Vietnam ) is starting to put out lots of flowers . It does it ever year but I'm leaving them on this year to get at least some fruits. I heard that Australia's climate is not hot enough to produce sweet pummelo's .I also have the nam roi variety which I have high hopes for but it will be another 2 years before that tree can produce decent fruits. | About the Author Wakeley 18th August 2009 8:22pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cuong says... Hi all, Michael: the pomelo is not sweet but not very sour either. I have another pomelo tree of a different variety at work, will bring a camera and take pictures of that. Happy Earth: just cut down the fruit a few days ago, still trying to make it ripen so we can taste it! have 5 fruits in its first year of fruiting | About the Author Cuong Wilson, Western Australia 18th August 2009 9:01pm #UserID: 2684 Posts: 37 View All Cuong's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Hi Cuong, Seems like you or your parents have quite an establish garden there. So many exoctic fruits to see and taste. I am so envy of your Jackfruit tree. I've tried twice growing them and twice I'ved failed.However after seeing your tree I'm going to give it a third go at spring time. | About the Author Wakeley 18th August 2009 10:11pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 19th August 2009 9:08am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 19th August 2009 9:10am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Cuong Wilson, Western Australia 19th August 2009 9:21am #UserID: 2684 Posts: 37 View All Cuong's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Cuong 19th August 2009 3:26pm #UserID: 2684 Posts: 37 View All Cuong's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author tecko1 Perth 20th August 2009 11:32am #UserID: 2184 Posts: 63 View All tecko1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Cuong long term planning, that JF you've planted from seed (4yo) it look so close to your home? I hopes it is a Dwarf in size or you won't let it grow over 2-3 m , b/c if it is not a Dwarf, and you let it grow as they do in Asia,,,definitely in 10+ yrs it's very destructive to the foundation of that home in the picture . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 20th August 2009 11:58am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Cuong says... tecko: not sure where my parents bought their grafted tree from that is in the photo but I have just picked up a grafted JF for myself from Wandillas in Wattle Grove just this week ellen: my parents are planing to cut the main shot of the tree to manage its growth - yes it would get very large if we let it go unattended | About the Author Cuong 20th August 2009 10:09pm #UserID: 2684 Posts: 37 View All Cuong's Edible Fruit Trees |
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andy says... Lychee Tree - for the first time in 10 years, some fruits managed to stay on the tree due to late arrival of the windy period. Almost ready to eat. The tree is about 3m tall and has aproximately 500 fruits. We still lost about 90% of the fruits to the wind though, when they were much smaller.
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Simon says... Hi Andy, Your lychee tree is very inspiring. Any tip on its care? I have been trying to grow some for the last 8 years. The Lychee tree (may be I should call it stick) does not seem to have much happening. To be fare, I had one that was about a meter tall in the ground but one year it died from root up wards. Did not know why. I start another one in the ground, but after five years, it is still about the same size! I bought another one (Kwei Mei variety) and grow it in a large pot (550mm). It is doing better that the one in the ground. It is now about 600mm tall after 3 years. I probably need to transplant to a larger pot next winter. 3 meter in ten years is very encouraging. If you can provide some tips to care the lychee plant would be most helpful. | About the Author Simon8 Perth 13th January 2012 6:27pm #UserID: 2640 Posts: 21 View All Simon8's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Wow! That's great Andy! U must tell us all about it please?! My small one drops it's fruit at the first hot easterlies too..(it's only small tho and in a tree sack - and I am always away when it happens) I wonder if it's just a natural thing due to too much fruit - or a humidity and water issue...? It's a curious tree that really interests me... (edit: can I ask what suburb u are in? Is your soil sandy? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 13th January 2012 11:29pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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andy says... Amanda, they usually lose their fruits when they are still green and very small to the wind. Once they get over the windy period or they become large, the size of your little finger, they tend to windstand the wind much better. from then on, it should be smooth sailing til they are ripe. We've been losing them to the wind for almost every year, except for this year, some managed to stay on, perhaps the windy periods arrived later than usual. unsure which species it is, i planted it 10 years ago, and about 5 years ago it just took off. I suspect the root system had reached the water table about 3m down. i pruned it heavily every year. I had a couple of plants on a different properly with a much lower water table, they don't seem to grow as well. so i think it just needs plenty of water, and perhaps not so much heavy watering, but more regular watering. | About the Author andy13 perth 18th January 2012 12:38pm #UserID: 6393 Posts: 2 View All andy13's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Interesting info Andy. Yes - mine are very small and green when they drop too. Mine in a shadehouse - but it still cops the hot easterly. It's just bad timing isn't it...I am hoping mine will do better when we take it south (Leschenault) where it's more protected by big trees.. Great pic tho...it's always really exciting to see people pulling off these kinds of fruit in WA soils/climate. Gives the rest of us hope! :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 18th January 2012 12:59pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Hi everyone Hopefully this is the right place for this question! I've got a sand bowl at the moment (building site) and want to plant a lot of fruit trees. I wonder if people could share their successful varieties of things like apples, pears, plums, almond etc. I'm on the coastal plain, and would love to hear feedback from others in a similar location. Thanks! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 6th April 2012 9:22pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Hey MJ I used to live in Floreat. I reckon it may be worth getting some clay into your soil to help with water retention, and then fill it up with some good organic matter. I have had good fortune with peaches (dwarf tree), feijoa(highly recommended) citrus, and a couple of exotics that you wont find in the shops. I think you may need some cold weather for apples, but now sure for plums and pears. | About the Author gus 6th April 2012 11:43pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Hi Gus Do you remember what kind of peach it was? I've been advised by others to add clay, and I will do so. I will also get in a truckload of compost/mulch/whatever I can get to try to turn our sand into soil. (In fact, I want to get rid of the soil altogether where we'll grow edibles and replace it, as we've bulldozed an old home and have therefore spread nasty chemicals all over the block.) I know someone with a fruiting plum in my area, but she doesn't know what kind it is. I see there are "tropical" apples which only need 150 or so hours, and I will play it safe and order those. My gran, way back when, used to have a prolifically fruiting almond, but again no idea what kind. There is a pear tree in the house I'm renting while we build - it seems to be a duo graft (though I couldn't for the life of me work it out!) which fruited prolifically this year; yet again, no idea what kind it was. Thanks! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 7th April 2012 6:29pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... MJ, when Italians moved into inner Perth suburbs last century, they always planted a fig, grape, mulberry,almond and lemon. These will all do well. Friends years ago had a prolific apricot in Nedlands - don't know what it was, but could have been Newcastle early, which doesn't need as much chill. Any chance you could get someone to graft the plum and pear you mention onto rootstock for you? | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 7th April 2012 6:49pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi MJ...what about a lovely White Sapote tree...? The fruit should be in the shops soon (for a taste test) I can highly recommend them for Perth. A couple of varieties are self fertile and others need a pollinator. Lemon gold is self fertile....and delicious! I have a Tropic snow peach tree - lovely sweet n juicy white flesh...very reliable. My plums get sunburnt - maybe some afternoon shade good for them. Low chill are the Japanese varieties. Fuji and Pink Lady apples are low chill and pollination partners. There might be others? Many of the more exotic sub tropicals can be of "hobby" value only and dissapointing and/or contrary...it pays to do some taste testing before spending lots of money and time on some of them (just my thoughts though) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400kms north of Perth 8th April 2012 10:59am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Amanda, I've never tried a white sapote, but I'll keep an eye out for them in the shops. I agree about the hobby factor, my garden isn't big enough for anything that isn't good eating. How big is your Tropic Snow? I've got a spot where I'm a bit worried there won't be enough sun, certainly afternoon shade. Maybe that is a good spot to try a plum. I've had advice that it might be a good spot for the apples as they will apparently take a bit of shade. Julie, brilliant idea about seeing if I can find someone to graft for me. I hadn't thought of that. Bye MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 8th April 2012 1:26pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author kim14 perth 8th April 2012 6:41pm #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I don't think White Sapotes need to get too big..? Mine are grafted Lemon golds and at 3 or 4yrs old my trees are still under my height (1.7m) Pruning is the answer though - with any fruit trees - if you take out the leader branch at a height you want to maintain (and do the same with any subsequent leaders/dominant branches down the track) then u should be ok. It's not too hard once u get the hang of it...I managed to teach myself thru some books and then thru practice. I am average at pruning still - but the trees are very forgiving in general ;-) Most of my trees (in ground) are just under 2m tall and are around 5yrs old and very productive - there is peach, apple, nectarine, many citrus types, white sapote, guavas, apricot. I would expect many of these to be kept comfortably at 3m max. I guess if you spoil them too much you might get a huge tree and not too much fruit ;-) I'd go for dwarfing rootstock wherever possible...so much easier to manage the trees. It's important to know what wood to prune and when...as fruiting can be on current growth, 1yr growth - or old growth - depending on the fruit. It's not rocket science..you just need to keep a little diary with your reminders in it :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400kms north of Perth 8th April 2012 8:29pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... MJ, loquat is another one that grows practically anywhere. Fruit fly is supposedly a problem, but I don't get them on my loquat(in the hills). Can be pruned as amanda suggests. I pruned out the centre of mine when quite young, and it is still only about 2 m tall. For your less sunny spot, how about blueberries? We have a lot of info on the forum on people's experience with those. More a bush than a tree, but some can get quite tall. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 8th April 2012 9:22pm #UserID: 182 Posts: 103 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I do live in a fruit fly area but I'm planning to bag and net fruit to avoid having to spray. A loquat is a nice idea. A jaboticaba too, but I'd like to try the fruit first. I'd like to try blueberries. Eventually I'll have quite a few shady areas. I'd also like to try raspberries, but I think they'll need containment in a large pot! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 8th April 2012 9:32pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... thanks Amanda - i definitely have some re-thinking to do. A white sapote tree was very high on my list, but because i was scared of it getting too big (i'm a real novice, so haven't even started looking at pruning yet... :p ) i had it scratched off my list... Wish i had some jaboticaba fruits i could offer you MJ (i'm yet to taste them myself) but by all accounts, they sound absolutely amazing. From reading alone, i've gone and purchased 6 trees and still want more.. :) if i get lucky and my trees produce some fruits in the near future, i will definitely offer taste test for anyone interested. :) | About the Author kim14 perth 9th April 2012 2:22am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... You should be able to get smaller growing white sapote variety in Australia as we have many in New Zealand. such as PIKE and LUKE.They wont go more than 4 meters and can be kept at 3 meters. You can keep them even shorter.Plant the new tree with another bushy tree right next to it at the same time. The other bush will crowd the middle of the sapote thus preventing taller growing upward branches that usually come from the middle. The side branches will grow outwards only at a handy low height for picking. You can do this dwarfing trick with many other fruit trees such as figs.Any side growth sneaking on too high an angle can be weighted down. | About the Author denise1 9th April 2012 6:30am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... That's true denise...and I think Lemon Gold stays smaller because is has less apical dominant growth? Something like that anyway...it's a funny, straggly thing with droopy, whippy branches. There should be information on each type on the Net...I'd say have a read of the "Problems with White Sapotes" thread - but it's massive now!? (not becuase of problems - but cos it's our Go To spot for discussing them...) I can't recommend this tree highly enough. The fruit tastes similar to a custard apple I guess...but the texture of an avocado...(don't eat the skin though) High flesh to seed ratio...a first class fruit for sure - and a tough plant with no problems (for me, so far) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400kms north of Perth 9th April 2012 10:43am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Are your sapotes dwarf amanda? I would assume if you are keeping them small by pruning, they would still have an extensive root system? I hope you can tell me otherwise as you have got me interested in them, but I only have a small area close to a wall. We kind of need that wall standing too. On a side note I made a ripper of a tomato sauce this arvo. Thanks again for the recipe! | About the Author gus 9th April 2012 9:27pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Gus...the White.sap's have a very strong root system...I am stunned at the growth and strength of my trunks at their age...so are others in Gero who know more "stuff" about fruit trees ;-) I suspect the root system travels fairly wide...only because my trees are the least fussy with feeding needs, by far and away. Their height is no problem at all though. They have no "deficiency" issues at all...I feel that suggests a 'searching' root system...like Figs and Mulberries perhaps (just a gut feeling here so far though) From what I can gather - the roots may be disruptive and I might agree there. But - they seem to be fibrous more than anything...perhaps I should cut a section down into mine and take a pic? I am curious too now.. :) Who cares sometimes anyway...by the time our trees are big enough to cause problems - we may well be in old folks homes...?? :D Wow - thanks for the Tom sauce recipe feedback...that's lovely :) I am very dedicated to sauce recipes...have a sensational one for a mango sauce...but I am actually bound by confidentiality on that one!? :-( Makes awesome mangoe chicken nachos tho...umnnnn...yum.. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 9:53pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I am going to have to think about the white sapote as it will be less than a metre from a half wall half fence kind of thing. Having said that, it wouldn't be the end of the world if it was disrupted, just a pain in the bum. Maybe it would be better sticking it in a pot? The sauce has a really nice tangy flavour. I found it took a really long time to thicken up, but it was worth the effort. I only had 8 kilos of tomatoes but they filled a huge stock pot. You must have an enormous pot to carry 15kgs of tomatoes? | About the Author gus 9th April 2012 10:06pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... A white sapote is worth it. It's our very own "tropical-like" fruit we can skite about that they CAN'T get to fruit in North QLD..?? (hehe) A mangoe rival for sure.. I have the stock pot from heaven Gus ;-) I had my laundry sink sized especially for washing it and my stove top sized for cooking with it too ;-) Just couldn't find a dishwasher big enuf' to take it - grrr! :D The tom's I love tend to be salad types or such and watery too..I have semi dried my selection this time (and vac-sealed frozen them) to concentrate their flavour and lessen the chance of 'over cooking'. Only because I have not found a Roma or 'paste' tomatoe yet - that works here in our sands or such - and has the flavour punch I require...think I may have a go at breeding my own!? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 9th April 2012 10:28pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Some white sapotes fruit really well and a huge tree at kamerunga where I once worked had huge crops of beauties.They seem to do better on the tablelands especially in places that routinely get below 0.They seem to be a less popular fruit in the local markets like rusty's and there has been very few since the cyclone.Mission beach to Innisfail on the coast and the adjacent southern Atherton Tableland is where most of the trees grow. | About the Author Mike25 10th April 2012 12:20am #UserID: 6829 Posts: 64 View All Mike25's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... A white sapote sounds gorgeous, but sounds like the root system is too big for my garden. Bit of a shame. Still, I've got these on my list: Apples, lemon, orange, mandarin, midgim berries, blueberries, raspberries (in a pot for containment), fig (in a pot) plums, mango, almond, grapes, dwarf tropical nectarine, dwarf tropical peach, strawberries, kiwis, passionfruit, and assorted veg dotted around the garden, and in a couple of veg beds. I think I'm quite pleased with that list. MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 10th April 2012 3:05pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... MJ my dwarf peach was just a Trixie peach from dawsons garden world. Can I also suggest to you that you keep your blueberries in pots with acid soil. I have done everything to keep them in the ground to no avail. I have since given up and now my four potted blueberry bushes produce an abundance of fruit. | About the Author gus 10th April 2012 10:55pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Gus, our garden designer drew the blueberries into the garden, but I agree with you - I think they'd be much better off in a pot. Even if the clean soil I bring in is acidic, I think our bore water is probably quite alkaline. I'm so glad you told me about the Trixie - it is what was suggested, but I was worried it wouldn't fruit in Perth. I can't find anything about their chill factors. Thanks! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 11th April 2012 9:46am #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... Glad to hear Cheeky how garden centres sometimes sell things that will never fruit, but I've had no probs with the Trixie. I have read somewhere else on the forum that someone had added lemon juice to there water for blueberries? They said it works. I tried for two year to produce blueberries in the soil adding everything from sulfur (regretfully) to peat moss, but didn't get a single berry. In my pots I still have them covering my 4 bushes. | About the Author gus 11th April 2012 10:49am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I think I have 2 mistys and two sharps. I got 2 varieties to help with pollination. I think these varieties are also used for commercial production in Australia. They are perhaps a tad smaller than Northern Hemishpere berries, but are very nice. I got them from dawsons in Joondalup, but I think there is also a dawsons in Swanbourne. They are in 76 ltr pots with Azalea/camelia soil. 2 of the pots get a lot of sunshine and two are quite filtered, and the quality of berry is much better on the filtered bushes. If they get too much sun the berries ripen way too quickly and you end up with tiny little "blueberry currants." Next year I am thinking about throwing a little shade cloth over them on hotter days. | About the Author gus 11th April 2012 7:41pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I agree with you Gus....with our alkaline sands and (likely) tap water - I am leaving mine in tree sacks too. Mine are in a shadehouse permanantly - they get loads of nice big berries (Sharpe and Misty also :) - so no problem with pollination either.. It's an incredibly difficult mission to acidify alkaline sands in the long term isn't it.....sulphur is harsh - and hot compost making is a labour of love!? :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 12th April 2012 9:21am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... My plan is to bring in a huge amount of good stuff - probably 40% landscape mix of some kind, 40% clay and 20% compost. I figure I'll have a heart attack when I see the price, but then it should be plain sailing after that. And, since I intend to die of extreme old age in this house, it will be worth it to do it properly at the start. Anyone got a dwarf macadamia? I went to a Beyond Gardens workshop and came home certain that I need a macadamia. I will only be able to fit in a dwarf in a pot, and I want to find out how shade tolerant they are. All my usual sources for this kind of thing are coming up blank. Any macadamia experts out there? Bye MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 12th April 2012 5:15pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Not sure if I'm allowed to post links here, so fingers crossed. Here is a link to a Jackie French article on groves, which suggests that macadamias might be okay in those conditions: http://www.jackiefrench.com/groves.html | About the Author 4 Perth 12th April 2012 5:20pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... MJ I think you may be able to get a macadamia nut tree from Tass one trees in Baskerville. http://www.tass1trees.com.au/index.php Try calling him first, but I had a feeling he had some macadamias last time I was there. | About the Author gus innaloo 14th April 2012 8:26pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I'm putting together a list and will email or ring him with it. I won't need them for a few more months (July, hopefully) but no reason I can't be putting in an order sooner. Now that it looks like a macadamia will cope with some shade, I'd really like to have to dwarfs in pots. Thanks! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 14th April 2012 8:31pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... If you haven't been up that way before it may be worth a visit, it actually is not as far as it sounds. They have quite a few things that you may never have considered or even heard of that might be a good idea. There is also a good honey shop near by. I don't suppose you have Jaboticaba on your list? Mine is still years off fruiting, but it wins my vote for prettiest evergreen tree. Kind of a Japanese maple style that looks great and produces grape like fruit. The one thing that I didn't consider when planting a lot of my treees is that fact that certain varities look very bare and depressing in the winter months. Jabs look great 365 days a year. Just a thought! | About the Author gus innaloo 14th April 2012 10:04pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Blooming Nursery in Jandabup is definitely worth a trip as well MJ, they have a huge selection with very reasonable prices IMHO. I have been to all the other nurseries and maybe its just me, but they seem to have the largest collection of all. :) can't recommend them highly enough. And no, I don't know the owner or anyone that works there, but since going there end of last year, i can't seem to stay away. | About the Author kim14 perth 15th April 2012 1:48am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Gus, I have thought of a Jaboticaba off and on, but it hasn't made it to the list. The garden designer did, however, put a possible Feijoa in. I'm not keen on this as I think it is a fruit fly magnet, and I have enough of those planned. LOL. Maybe I could swap it for a jaboticaba. Do you know how big they get? Will check out that nursery, Kim. Thanks! MJ | About the Author 4 Perth 15th April 2012 10:58am #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I think both will become small to medium height trees, but the feijoa will bear fruit very soon if it is a named variety. The Jab can take 10 years or more to fruit and grows extremely slowly. Will be an ornamental for years, but extremely exotic in Perth if you can get fruit. They are often used for bonsai, as they are slow and pretty. I still think I would grab a feijoa or two anyway. They don't seem to like our hot sun when they fruit, but I haven't attracted fruit fly myself. Have you tried the fruit before? They usually have them at herdsman around this time of year. | About the Author gus innaloo 15th April 2012 12:22pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Hi MJ, My feijoa are Bunning's Seedlings. They do fruit eventually - althought with the seedlings the fruit size, shape and taste is highly variable between the plants. I've not had any fruit fly attack them (the skin seems pretty thick) and they have created a convenient hedge. I understand you're just starting out and may want to see how things go. I'm originally from the East so have made loads of mistakes. But - if you want to see how things cope my direct contact details can be found via the gumtree link I included (I'm letting my dwarf fig go - trying to tidy up). You'd be welcome to any cuttings you can get, and to see what has worked for me and what has failed. | About the Author BJ11 Perth 15th April 2012 12:59pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Gus, i had never heard of them either until late last year- i had a long list of nurseries, and basically went around to all the more well known ones first (Tass, Wandilla, Lena, etc) and to be honest, Blooming was quite low on my list as there weren't many reviews available on the web - but once i discovered them, i really can't recommend them highly enough... They're at 121 Trichet Rd, Jandabup and are open 7 days. I got the majority of my trees there, notably my 6 jabos ($68 each comparing with $100 at other places at the same size) that should hopefully fruit in the next year or so... fingers crossed!! :) I'm thinking of going back to look for a smaller jabo as i think he might have some in stock ($28 each?? not too sure, but his prices are very reasonable) that i hope to keep in a pot for a while. A price comparison example - i purchased a very tiny soursop from another nursery for $48. A week later i discovered Blooming and their soursop trees that were 3 or 4 times the size of mine going at $28ea!! | About the Author kim14 perth 15th April 2012 1:19pm #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Hi Gus, I've four feijoas ... one tastes like strawberry bubble gum, but its fruit are the size of a thimble - just a tiny smidge of fruit inside! Another isn't that exiciting to eat but is the size of a bantom egg with jellier sort of bits inside. They all have quite thick rinds (2mm?) MJ, my e-mail is belinda(dot)white(at)optusnet(dot)com(dot)au I did try to respond to your almond question ... but I think the computer hates me!! You'd be welcome to see the almonds for yourself - they aren't looking the best as I'm pulling off leaves for autumn - but they are tough and I had some very yummy almond and apricot jam this year! | About the Author BJ11 Perth 16th April 2012 9:43pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Not sure about how much overall shade for apples MJ - but afternoon shade in the summer would suit them I reckon! :) My apples find the all-day sun way too much for them here. Many fruit trees will not fruit as well if they are too shaded....but sometimes I wonder if we can get away with a little bit of shading from Perth->North as the sunlight is so intense. Would be interesting to see what others have achieved. How much shade are you looking at do you think? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 18th April 2012 9:10pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I'd like to know more about this issue too MJ. Winter might not be such a problem as they are deciduous anyway? But it's a good point MJ - as not everyone has full access to the sun in suburbia these days...especially with block sizes shrinking etc.. I have not seen any 'research' on what might be optimal direct sunlight hours, for fruit trees. (but south of a north facing screen doesn't sound good for apples...the blueberries should be very happy though :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 18th April 2012 9:23pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... MJ, I've got fruit trees on four fences of my property; nothing has suffered from too much shade. My biggest recommendation is to wander around the suburb and look at what other people have. There is a pretty cool garden for tropicals on the corner of Belmont Ave and Alexander Rd; an a few more people with several fruit trees along Alexander Rd. There is a guy at Bunnings (Alexander Rd and Abernethy Rd) that actually seems to care about plants and is very helpful with good local knowledge (he also recommends other nurseries if they have stock Bunnings doesn't). I'm more than happy to show you where my apples are growing and tell you what I've had to move (mostly because of too much sun!). My apples have to have their leaves ripped off them - perhaps they would be happier with less light?! | About the Author BJ11 Perth 18th April 2012 10:07pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks Perth-BJ - that's good info...I wonder if other Perthites have had similar problems with too much sun..? "Full sun" has been too much for almost ALL of my fruit trees....bar the very toughest and/or "neediest" (acerola, passionfruit, fig etc) I realise it's a bit hotter up here - but it's not that far and very comparable, I feel. What really annoys me are plant labels in general....many that have stated Full Sun - have not coped at all here...I wonder if that is "Full Sun (but in Victoria)" or something?! :D It's not the same all across Aust...and I sure am tired of the lack of understanding for the WA climate :-( Anyway - I was too lazy to rip my apple leaves off this last season BJ...and it flowered and fruit really well..!? (apples got sunburnt in the end tho..lol..bloody sun...) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth 19th April 2012 10:57am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... (and for those who are struggling to find room for stuff...or are not tropical enough...there is always a great supply of lovely fruit n things at the Asian shops...(shh!) ;-D Here is my feast for today...all fresh frozen and taste just as good as the real ones I have ever eaten...and all under $10kg... Can also get whole frozen Kachai, lemongrass, laksa herb...all very cheap and much easier than trying to grow more often than not...even canned longons are great. The Honey Jackfruit in this pic is superb BTW...
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GardeningAustraliaWanabee says... Full sun means full sun. If you chose to grow fruit in an arid desert, well you're fighting against nature and really it's a great waste of resources (water) in trying to fight it. Don't blame the plant labels. Even the Arabs in the Middle east have woken up to this fact and are buying arable land in Africa and elsewhere. | About the Author GardeningAustraliaWanabee 20th April 2012 11:53pm #UserID: 650 Posts: 9 View All GardeningAustraliaWanabee's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Possibly GAW, but that's drawing a long bow perhaps. Perth is not an arid desert, nor is Geraldton. Sometimes we need to adjust our microclimates to achieve better results - no matter where we live. It's quite possible that "Full sun" is not always ideal for Perth and north. It's worth discussing as that's how we learn and improve our gardens...which is part of the reason we are here on this Forum. Certainly my own experience in my climate has taught me this much, even many of the non-indigenous Aust plants can require small adjustments to their micro-habitat. Nothing new there...?? There are, of course, no-brainers that simply won't do well without large inputs...I guess it's a personal choice whether you grow them or not, though. Where did you say u were GAW? | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 21st April 2012 2:36pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Amanda, I'd love to see tags for our own state - it might say 6 hours sun in Perth, 3 in Broome, or something like that. It would take a lot of the guessswork out. I emailed a fruit tree company recently re chill hours and got a fairly vague response, which suggested to me that I shouldn't buy any of their trees on the coastal plain of Perth. :( | About the Author 4 Perth 21st April 2012 8:10pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi Gus I agree, Blooming does seem to be the best nursery in Perth for quality plants at reasonable prices. And the range of exotic fruit trees is larger than any other nurseries i've been to. The majority of my trees came from Blooming and i'm always wanting to go back for more. :) In fact, i'm hoping to go back tomorrow - on my last visit, i noticed a lot of his miracle fruit plants had berries on them, i'm thinking of buying another one... | About the Author kim14 perth 22nd April 2012 2:42am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... By all means it may be worth it, but last year I did exactly that and in the end there are people who didn't check or didn't care about the price and paid overs. I would only consider it again if there were a bunch of plants sold in a lot that were worth buying all at once, as there may be bargains to be found that way. | About the Author electra Fremantle 22nd April 2012 4:38pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I haven't been to the auctions as I only have a normal sized block, and assumed that most of the buyers were probably looking for job lots with like 100 mandarin trees or something. I couldn't be bothered spending a whole day waiting for a bargain anyway, as I normally only buy a tree or two at a time. I suggest you build your garden slowly M.J as I have found with a bit of trial and error you learn what you like and what you don't. I have changed my mind about a lot of things, and constantly swap and change things. | About the Author gus innaloo 22nd April 2012 5:36pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... MJ, If you're willing to take cuttings (mulberries, feijoa, guava etc) then you've a good chance at getting something you know thrives in the environment. Many of my plants are grafted, but I've taken a few more mulberry cuttings (no space for them, so they'll be donated to anyone who wants them if they root) and I'm willing to try feijoa / guava / sublime etc. You can save money and get a plant you like. Also, if you check out gardens you can see what plants cope well, and which ones don't. I made several mistakes by putting in "exotic" plants not suited to WA and they have struggled (Jap plumbs for instance). Much easier to have something suited to the area! I did, however, purchase over 30 trees in the first instance from the supplier (Olea) so they were half the price of a nursery ... but you need an ABN and to sweet-talk the company. | About the Author BJ11 Perth 22nd April 2012 6:22pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I agree SG! Personal?? Eh?? Lol. Hey BJ - what problems are you having with your Japanese plums? Which ones do you have? (I just became aware that the chill hrs needed for some are higher than what even Perth can supply..??) I have had lots of problems with them too. Don't let them get direct afternoon summer sun, they can't take the hot days at all. Agree about being seduced by some "exotics" - have to be very careful for WA climates. Many are dissapointing also. There are the tried, tested and true though (mangoes, carambola, jujube, white sapote, dragon fruit etc) Never be afraid to pull something up if it's not performing or what u like...and replace it/try with something else :) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 7:24pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I believe it's always worth having multiple tries at a fruit? If I had only ever tasted the horrid floury end-of-season nectarines in the stupor market then I reckon I would believe nectarines were awful too?! And - good homegrown fruit is very hard to beat also. My homegrown wh.sapotes ("Lemon Gold") are some of the most sensational fruit I have ever had...certainly up in the "A" grade. They are not as big n flash as the commercial ones I have tried...but they taste better. Taste buds are different too though. Personally - I am not a big fan of "overly" sweet fruit...I prefer a little bit of sub-acid. I find the Lemon Gold has that and it gives the fruit a better complexity..? (hence the 'lemon' part I guess) But sure..there are poor examples of what should be good fruit. Which is what Mike is saying. I must agree too. A recent revelation has been the new pineapples like "Mareeba Gold" etc....they are a great improvement on the old style pineapples and remind me very much of the lovely ones to be had in Asia...? White low chill peaches...omg! I love my Tropic Snow peaches...they are a vast improvement on some of the awful peaches in the shops now... :-( It's also important where the fruit is grown...many fruits suited to warmer climates just won't achieve the same sweetness in a cooler climate - eg: you could grow pineapples in Perth..but would they taste sweet or sour? I think Dragon fruit are great too..they can be so easily grown in Perth - but folk don't really know what they are...? | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 22nd April 2012 8:14pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... BJ I tried cuttings from a girlfriend's mulberry and didn't have any luck. I might try again. I also tried from the pear I mentioned earlier, but again, no success. :( (I did have a lot of success with other cuttings I took, so I'm not taking it too personally.) Gus, the garden has been designed with all our staples in, (hopefully) in a way that will give us some fruit most of the year, so I've got a specific list of trees that I want to put in. Fortunately we lived on the site for 14 years prior to bulldozing, so we know where the light is etc. Also, some of the trees are important for our climate management inside the house, so they have to go in asap. Amanda, how large is your tropic snow, and does it take a bit of shade? I've found (somewhere) a dwarf tropical peach and a nectarine that I'm keen to try. It will need to be kept small in this spot. | About the Author 4 Perth 22nd April 2012 8:33pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... MJ mulberries are reasonably easy to strike.If take 15cm sections that have just gone from green to woody they have a good chance.Chop the leaves off and tip 1 or 2 weeks prior and take it off when buds are forming.Dip in rooting powder,leave in warm shade and don't overwater and do 10 to 20 to make sure there'll be some survivors. Amanda Mareeba gold is not quite as good or large as hawaiin gold,and some with letter and number names but they sure make the old cayennes seem pretty ordinary.I have a massive hawaiin gold I have to chop up tonight before it gets over-ripe. | About the Author Cairns 22nd April 2012 9:03pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi All Came back from Blooming with two small feijoa trees/shrubs!! I've never tried the fruits until today but have always wanted a tree after reading about the ornamental value of this tree. I've seen them @ Blooming on previous visits but didn't want to buy the big trees so i was ecstatic when i spotted the last two small trees near some flowering type plants - just had to have them! Guess the sapote, sapodilla and second miracle fruit tree will have to wait for another day... When i mentioned i had never tasted the fruit before, the owner, Mr Wa generously offered me some fruits from his tree - they taste great! i don't think the ones i had were fully ripe as there was no jelly like centres, but still very sweet and tasty. Here's to hoping my trees will give me fruits of the same quality in time... :D | About the Author kim14 perth 23rd April 2012 1:10am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I think its the best thing you can have in your garden. Conratulations! I was there yesterday too, and gotta say the men there are very friendly and helpful. Did you get named varieties of feijoa? very important. You can buy them from coles or fruit markets for about $1.80 or so this time of year. | About the Author gus innaloo 23rd April 2012 10:30am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I dream of some good feijoas too Gus...! MJ my tropic snow is roughly 2 or 2.5m tall..? It's about 4 or 5yrs old now. Most of my trees are not very tall considering their age...I guess the salt here keeps them a bit stunted :) (I am coastal and have saline water) I also prune to keep trees to a height that is easy to work with...? They carry plenty of fruit for us. It's easy to prune them once u get the hang of it...it's just a matter of heading dominant branches off a bit - so that they don't "take over" and get too tall/big. I didn't let my trees carry fruit until they were 2yrs old (in ground age) - and even then I only kept strategic fruit (to weigh down branches) for the next year. This allowed them to develop a nice strong framework. My little west indian lime (1.5m) carried 15kg of fruit last season, no problems. In my next garden I plan on using as many dwarfing rootstocks as I can get away with., for fruit trees. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 23rd April 2012 10:58am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I have a nazimet and a mammoth that I got about 2 years ago when you warned me off the seedlings. Within a year of plonking them in the ground i had about 3 fruit, and this year I have had probably 30 fruit. The trees are probably only 4 or 5 feet high, but seem very productive. I ate a couple more this morning that were good aswell. They are so easy to keep and look good too. | About the Author gus innaloo 24th April 2012 10:38am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Great Gus! That was really fast?! I would have pulled mine up and started again if I had known that :) I don't suppose we can import these guys anymore - guavas were caught up in that ban due to the myrtle rust too...? Hang onto them Gus - we may all be beating a path to your door for cuttings one day!? :D | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. 400km north of Perth 24th April 2012 10:49am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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nick says... Hi Gus. How do you go with the BLESSED FRUIT FLY. I am in gwelup, my tree is approx 20years old produces "milions" of fruits each year, but i am yet to enjoy one that has rippend on the tree. I have tried heaps of fruit fly controls, i have used bought baits,home made baits wives tales bait but nothing has worked i am open to any suggestions and getting desperate. I donnot want to cut the tree down,but it very frustating looking at all that fruit and not being able to have a feed. | About the Author nick12 perth 24th April 2012 6:18pm #UserID: 6884 Posts: 3 View All nick12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Gus, yes we've had lots of discussion on this site about it - here's one link on the topic: https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/fruit-fly-exclusion-bags/ | About the Author MaryT Sydney 25th April 2012 11:58am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Mary, do you know if it is silk organza, or a synthetic, and also what colour it is? Do you think colour would matter? I have a length of gorgeous embroidered silk organza in a lovely light purple. It was $5/m which is *really* cheap and I bought it because I loved it, but with no real use for it. I like the idea of using a silk organza for fruit fly bags (I'd make my own) as it is a bit stiff and would hopefully not droop down onto the fruit, but I'm wondering a little about whether the colour would matter... | About the Author 4 Perth 25th April 2012 4:05pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author 4 Perth 28th April 2012 3:16pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim says... Hi All I don't think my feijoas are named varieties Gus, but i'm an optimist (most of the time anyways... :) and if they taste half as decent as the ones i had at Blooming's then i'll be quite happy indeed. :D MJ - i'm also a newbie, and have found some great tips searching the main forum for "fruit trees in pots". | About the Author kim14 perth 29th April 2012 6:25pm #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I haven't used wine barrels but have used similair sized pots and had good results. In some ways it is even preferable in that you can easily moderate the amount of nutrients and water the trees get. Good on you Kim. i am no expert, but can only speak for good experiences with a named tree. You may well get good fruit anyway. You could even check with the guys at the store if it is named or not. | About the Author gus innaloo 29th April 2012 10:44pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... My fruit trees are all in pots MJ and they do well as long as you water and fertilise regularly in small amounts (or they just get washed out anyway). You will need to prune more often. Fruit will be the same size as trees in the ground but you won't get as many as you tree size will be limited by the size of the pot. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 30th April 2012 7:52am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey guys (n Gus) the white sapotes from Margaret River have landed in my F&V shop this week. Gus - yes they are a bit blander than my own ones (just had ate one!) I find home grown usually tastes better for most stuff...but it could also be a variety issue too. My Lemon Gold definately more fragrant and a bit more complex and tasty. jason best person to ask about this tho. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 1st May 2012 12:21pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I saw a choc sapote at bunnings the other day. Had to put my hands in my pocket and leave quickly! Mary T, how big are your pots, and did you start with dwarf trees? I was reading an discussion where a couple were wondering if it was worth dwarf varieties when the pot would naturally dwarf the tree. It would certainly widen my range of possibilities. | About the Author 4 Perth 1st May 2012 8:39pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gus says... I would personally avoid putting large trees in pots. I am just a novice gardener so don't have the skills to avoid trouble. I have had problems with trees becoming root bound and being too big and unmanagable. I think to avoid root bounding you may have to pull the tree out the pot and cut the roots back. I also think I nicely proportioned dwarf in a decent sized pot looks better than something thats clearly overgrowing. | About the Author gus innaloo 1st May 2012 10:29pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I was told that I should repot every 4 years. I did the great gardens workshop a few weeks ago and he said to swap 1/2 of the potting mix for sand and that would avoid that "slumping" or whatever it is called where the level of potting mix drops down over time and you could avoid repotting for 10 years. I've got a couple of large potted ficuses and repotted them a few years back, which involved putting them down on their sides, pulling it out, trimming the roots, and putting it back with extra potting mix. It was a huge job as the pot with tree must weigh 100kg and took two of us. If I can delay the repotting to 10 years that would help! Then again, I thought they needed repotting recently, but wasn't able to due to not having the new pots. I gave them a good feed and lots of water and the new growth is amazing. I'm cutting them back now to get a better shape. | About the Author 4 Perth 1st May 2012 10:57pm #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... MJ I always say to people DON'T plant trees in pots if they have a choice. I don't; it's either looking at a patch of concrete or use containers to grow them. I could have planted small shrubs but I like to walk beside something taller than me and pick fruit. Yes it is a gigantic task to repot overgrown trees especially when you need room to do it and the reason I have containers is because I don't have room. Luckily I had the use of my neighbour's car space right next to my garden (which was my car space). Yes it is important to choose the right type. I planted a plum that shot up so much in a couple of years and wanted to keep growing that I had to give it away (which as it turned out is a great solution compared to repotting and pruning). I didn't have the heart to mulch it as it is a beautiful tree. It is now growing in the ground at a young couple's home; their bare backyard was instantly filled with my overgrown trees and I got the pots back to start again :) I'm new to dwarfs so I only have a couple. Too soon to tell whether they're a good idea. The others I find I need to prune them to the size of the pot. Trees need large pots. My largest are 70cm; I don't have room for anything bigger and anyway they'd be too heavy to handle. They are plastic so although I can't lift them I can push and pull them around. I am only five foot two (that's a measurement of my height for you young ones) The thing I have to say about putting sand in the mix would be that it would make the pots heavy. Also sand does not hold water or nutrients. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 2nd May 2012 3:51am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... This guy may be worth a visit too MJ...? He has a backyard full of potted fruit trees...? He sounds really interesting too :) http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/leeming/other-home-garden/unusual-exotic-fruit-trees/1001135567 (his name is Tri Hoang) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 2nd May 2012 9:04am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... Wow Amanda. I hadn't seen him before and I've been looking on gumtree. Might email him about his mangos. Mary, I've got my ficuses in 50cm square terracotta pots and there is no way I can move them. I've got them on feet so the removalists were able to get a trolley under. I was planning to start with 70cm wine barrels, and then to go up if needed to 1 metre pots for some of them. Pots that size are very expensive, though, so I was going to wait until (a) I find some that I love and (b) I can afford them and (c) the plants need a bigger pot. LOL at myself. I did wonder, though, if I get my garden soil as good as I want it, by adding clay and compost, why I wouldn't use that (maybe adding some vermiculite or similar) in a pot. It seems that I could then just keep adding compost and manure and then only need to do anything when it needed root pruning (eventually, when it is in its final pot). Will ponder on that one. We do at least have room to tip them over and work. | About the Author 4 Perth 2nd May 2012 10:20am #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author MaryT Sydney 2nd May 2012 2:20pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 2nd May 2012 8:40pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... We have weekly rubbish pickup and fortnightly recycling, depending on where you live. Then we have an additional bulk rubbish collection for items that won't fit, like old compost tumblers or tree prunings. In our area we have them twice a year and are always fascinated by what people will take. | About the Author 4 Perth 3rd May 2012 11:08am #UserID: 6823 Posts: 132 View All 4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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grub says... heres some pictures of some mangoes grown in harvey wa the middle one is a nam doc mi there other 2 are bowens and the fruit on them are huge easy 1kg.they just had fruit of them and the doc is throwing flowers again .i did get a seed of the nam doc mi so we will seee how she goes ,next year im going to grapht some of the nam doc on to my other mangoes.they are 20 years old and the clay they are growing in is as hard as a rock,
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Amzad says... Hello mates, I am new in Perth and love gardening too.I need some advice from you guys because not have enough idea about soils n climate in Perth. 1. How to make soil for custard apple tree and lychee tree if I need plant in pot. I have 300 lt large pot ready for those plant.2 - is both plant need full sun. 3 what should we do in winter to protect them. Please please Help. Look forward to hearing. Regard amzad | About the Author Amzad Marangaroo 16th January 2017 4:22pm #UserID: 15400 Posts: 1 View All Amzad's Edible Fruit Trees |
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SueBee says... Hi Amzad,I have been helping my daughter garden near Fremantle for several years ,If you are sandy like her then you need to add LOTS of compost.I buy the home delivered mushroom/sheep/cow manure mix that is advertised in the paper.Most WA natives will do ok in the sandy soil,but if you want to grow edibles then you need to build up your soil big time before planting as the sand is water repellent and nothing will thrive unless you make the soil more water retentive and nutritious with heaps of compost. Good luck. | About the Author SueBee SW Vic. 30th January 2017 11:56am #UserID: 15056 Posts: 93 View All SueBee's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author KathK SHOALWATER,6169,WA 8th August 2017 5:57pm #UserID: 1744 Posts: 187 View All KathK's Edible Fruit Trees |
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