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sue starts with ... hi has anyone grown a bourgainvillea ? i was wondering how it would grow in lancelin which is near the beach and sometimes pretty windy.and can you grow it in a tub? and do they flower all year? if not can you suggest a nice clmber? we have just built a trellis and i want something pretty climbing up t. thanks heaps sue | About the Author sue11 lancelin 1st June 2009 3:34pm #UserID: 1581 Posts: 17 View All sue11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... I dont know where Lancelin is, pardon my ignorance, but if you're near a beach somewhere I'd say you'd have no problems. Bouganvillea are easy from cuttings. They're perfect for tubs I have several in various sized terracotta and glazed pots up to 300mm dia. One of them (cv.Scarlet O'Hara) I've had for 15years and flowers several times a year for a long time. Thorns are undeveloped flower stems , so the more flowers , the less spines...a double positive. Mine have few if any spines. Dont be afraid to prune them hard into the shape you want. The seem to 'retaliate' with flowers. ;-) | About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 1st June 2009 3:49pm #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Is that Sue down the road?.. u must have lots of bougi's around there?! it's about the only reliable drought-resistant flowering plant there is for the coast...yes. I have 3 in pots, 6 in the ground and one wild one that was here when we purchased the block 8 yrs ago (and has never been watered). I can recommend the bambino range for in the ground and there's a nice one called candy something that sends out straight shoots of pure 'flowers' - but it depends on your trellis - boug's are not tidy climbers. If you want something a bit tidier u may like a honeysuckle (the americana one not over-vigorous) or a stephanotis, chinese star jasmine - all tough and the perfume is lovely. They are all in Bunnings. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 1st June 2009 10:59pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 1st June 2009 11:28pm #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Roleystone WA 2nd June 2009 4:43pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Take leafy tip cuttings any time if you can keep a bit of humidity and warmth around them. you can also do semi-hardwood and hardwood cuttings , even large ones. Rooting hormone can help ,but is not essential. Air-layering (marcotting) is good for large branches to get an 'instant' plant with thick, established looking trunk. If winters are a bit cool where you are, start them in sping. When growing them in a tub (large ornamental pot) I like to train them as one would for Bonsai, aesthetically speaking. That is with attention to form, shape and proportion of trunks and branchs. Most of all, play and experiment, be creative. | About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 3rd June 2009 8:35am #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Roleystone WA 3rd June 2009 3:23pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... I'll be removing two bougainvillea (bogons we call them and its easier to type) that I'm sick of pruning back to the size they need to be for the space they are. (I didn't plant them) One 'flowers' pink-purple the other a darkish red. If anyone in Perth wants cuttings / the large rootball (plants are ~2x3m?), let me know. I'll pot up something to keep for myself but most of the plant can be taken. I don't really want to put my eMail here - so how do people get in touch? | About the Author Brad2 Perth 3rd June 2009 7:43pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Roleystone WA 4th June 2009 7:08pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Terri says... Alternatively, Brad, you could create a secondary email to use when writing on forums. That way you don't have to give out your personal email. E.g. create an email such as garden123 [at] ymail [dot] com. People could get in touch with you from there. And of course, if you start getting spam (quite unlikely) you can simply delete your secondary account! Hope this helps, Terri | About the Author Dilly Perth 4th June 2009 7:40pm #UserID: 2219 Posts: 12 View All Dilly's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... yay Perthites. Julie: I'm in Como - i.e. not a large garden :) I'm happy to try start cuttings for spring or let you know what was salvaged when I get around to digging it up (won't be for a month at least) Terri - I've already got too many eMail addresses, but most forums I've used allow a private connection between members. i was just checking how its done here - thanks | About the Author Brad2 Perth 5th June 2009 1:09am #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Roleystone WA 5th June 2009 3:51pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author hi amanda up the road1 lancelin 9th July 2009 6:41pm #UserID: 2539 Posts: 1 View All hi amanda up the road1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Lancelin Sue... u get less thorns on the "bambino" bougs (but I cut the thorns off same as Speedy) The 'jasmines' are variable - stephanotis won't take full summer sun where u are - without getting sunburnt leaves but common jasmine may if there is afternoon shade in summer?. There is also Hibbertia spp (evergreen and light-weight) and Campsis (deciduous n heavier)- which will take everything Lancelin can dish out - I have no problems with them here and can recomend them as tough n waterwise. Hope this helps... there are others but it depends on the strength of the trellis and the summer/winter sun aspects. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 9th July 2009 11:07pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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heartofhush says... Sue you mention you have your plants in 300mm diameter, Please forgive me but is that like 30cm wide. I have 5 different colours in the garden and i really need to remove them, however if they will grow pots the size you mention i will take cuttings and try your way. It will be much easier on me this way. Could you let me know, I have 3 mini ones and 2 climbing, one of them has nasty thorns which needs to go. Thank you | About the Author heartofhush Sydney 21st July 2009 1:43pm #UserID: 2570 Posts: 2 View All heartofhush's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author heartofhush Sydney 21st July 2009 1:44pm #UserID: 2570 Posts: 2 View All heartofhush's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 21st July 2009 10:45pm #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Do you think a bougainvillea can grow downwards? I am researching creepers/climbers for a friend who is very new to gardening. They are building a new house which has a sort of rock/earth wall behind (called a 'cut') which will get lots of sun, reflected back onto the house. Bad design! It is far too high and wide to put supports, so I suggested growing plants from the top which will hang down. Any suggestions appreciated. I thought of Virginia creeper, but don't know how this will affect the wall, as you can't make holes and plant into it. | About the Author r 11th December 2009 1:57pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... They can Julie. BUT they can also be huge climbers. I remember seeing a bougainvillie in Seville that had climbed maybe 30m and then cascaded dark green foliage and bright pink bracts almost all the way back down again. I am now trying to train potted bougainvileas to do this (progeny of the too large ones I ripped out). If you prune bougainvilleas, they get strong and grow up. I'm trying to get a bit of a framework, then I'll chop the top (once only) and try to encourage a cascade back down again My suggestion would be to constrain the roots in a smaller space and try it. Another possible plant for you is a sun parasol (Mandevilla). http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=sun%20parasol%20Mandevilla&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi | About the Author Brad2 Como, Perth 11th December 2009 4:43pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Thanks for that Brad. Did you take cuttings, and did they strike easily? Were the cuttings soft or hard? The Mandevillea wouldn't be suitable, as it needs a lot of moisture and they only have a rainwater tank. I thought of Bougainvilleas because they survive dry periods. Not exactly sure what you are trying to do - can you explain a bit more? Is it the same as I am looking for (growing down)? | About the Author Roleystone WA 11th December 2009 10:01pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... yep - once established they sure are hardy. I did once take cuttings, but I lost it over summer carelessly. According to the web, you can take both types from bougainvillea. They'd layer well too, since I noticed branches that touched soil had put down roots. Mine weren't from cuttings or layering, but regrowth from smaller plant's rootball. I'm hoping to get a very small version of the below picture
| About the Author Brad2 Como, Perth 11th December 2009 11:19pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... Julie - Here's my two bougainvillea now in their desired location. The aim is a gentle spread, across the lattice. The first image comes off quite a large stump. The second (left of the pinkabelle apple) is two small climbing branches trained to a cane. (I'm a bit worried that the roots will break through the wooden pots, but worth a go)
| About the Author Brad2 Como, Perth 23rd December 2009 10:56pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Julie - I think this may be hard work with the Bougi' - I have seen how they do this (like the awesome one in the photo) they grow up to a terminal end (sometimes with a wagon wheel type top) and then they have nowhere else to go but down (aided by gravity) unless they don't mind pruning etc? I can really recomend prostrate Grevillia criminthifolia for their purpose. It's tough as old boots and covers a huge area with only one 2L/hr dripper here (I don't water mine at all at present) the only downside is that the flowers are a bit pongy (but the bees think they are great) There is also Grev' Poorinda Royal Mantle and the Gin Gin Gem - which have lovely red flowers - also water misers and prostate - they will go down a bank no problems at all. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 23rd December 2009 11:42pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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