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| About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 12th February 2010 10:00am #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Charles cant spell says... Basically wait to see what you get. Banana passionfruit are well worth having. If the vine doesn't produce or set fruit after a few years I imagine you can graft (or ask around and see if you can get someone else to graft) a producing variety of your choice on the now large strong rootstock. | About the Author Charlesstillcantspell1 Perth Innaloo 12th February 2010 10:43am #UserID: 2742 Posts: 411 View All Charlesstillcantspell1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... I agree with Jantina ... dig it up. Passionfruit growers typically use blue passonfruit rootstock which is almost impossible to get rid of once it gets established. It suckers up all over the place. Its also fast becoming an invasive weed here in the Illawarra Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 12th February 2010 5:13pm #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... Grafting is a good option,as long as the "future suckers" dont apear too soon...Yes i can dig it up...But my Temp Where i Am is Mountain Alpine Temp Over Winter,with big frosts,I think nature will control this rootstock in its own way ,Late spring summer may be its chance to thrive again ,But only for a short stint bout half the year,But i like the graftimg idea!Here is the pic of the frosts for interest sake..One of the gate lock and one of a rock on the shed..What do you think,mother nature will sort the vines invasive ways out?
| About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 17th February 2010 8:34am #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Charles cant spell says... Why would the invasiveness of the roots and the suckering be worse now that the graft of the other variety has died???? Please explain why this changes the nature of the root stock. I agree the growth of the rootstock (vine/leaves) may be vigorous and unhelpful (no fruit etc) but why is the rootstock suddenly something to be feared? Mother nature looks like it will kill most semi tropicals not under cover !! Nice pics. | About the Author Charlesstillcantspell1 Perth Innaloo 17th February 2010 2:10pm #UserID: 2742 Posts: 411 View All Charlesstillcantspell1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... Many questions can be raised with alot of strong opinions . But about the rootstock it says on the tag and its the common passionfruit "passiflora caerulea" as rootstock,,they are hardy ,vigorous,and flower either white or blue flower and fruit a orange coloured fruit with red pulp inside,edible,very sweet,but not as tasty as the black in the flavour,its used for desserts ,cocktail ,soft drink,or you can eat it normally....here is a pic....Yes Mother Nature In The Mountains,gives you all four seasons on the clock.Kill and control i think it would with the huge frosts we can get ,but fortunatly i get full sun all day where i am all year,will be covering the vines in winter overnight with shade cloth..Funny thing when you get a huge frost in the morning like shown,You get the hottest winter,and its beautifull,and needed.
| About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 17th February 2010 5:50pm #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hi Charles, THe root stock and the graft are two different species. Rootstocks are selected for a number of reasons, one usually being its vigour. If the graft dies then generally the rootstock takes over with its own foliage. In the case of the common rootstock used for passionfruits it is extremely vigourous. Its foilage will grow along alongside that of the graft, eventually taking over in most cases. eventually it finds its way into other peoples yards and then into the bush. I deal with weeds as a bush regenerator everyday of the week ... and this one is one of the hardest ones to control and get rid off - even with poison. Basically, you dont want this one to get a hold in your own backyard never lone the bush. Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 18th February 2010 7:05am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 18th February 2010 8:05am #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Well it certainly doesn't here in downtown Mt Gambier where we also get frosts. Years ago, in my ignorance I let the rootstock go to see what it produced and in very short order it had taken over the vegie garden with suckers coming up 30 ft away and everything in between. Pulling up suckers was a constant job and it was still going when I moved house (admittedly it was mountain soil and very fertile).And for the record I never saw one fruit, only endless suckers. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 18th February 2010 10:33am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 18th February 2010 10:37am #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... No we don't get snow, and frosts are variable depending on rainfall, some years only a few mild ones and some years hard ones (that's why I always look around early on frosty mornings, so I can see my microclimates). You seem to be fairly determined to give the rootstock a go, I'm interested in the results. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 18th February 2010 6:23pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... I have some great photos of the nasty frost here,and the lovely snow,at least 5 out of 7 nights /morning ,we get a Hard frost,and the nights we dont its becuase its cloudy/overcast....i used to start work every morning at 5:00am and have to scrape of the ice,you cant put water the frost to melt it because it just freezes up straight away,after driving 30 seconds your windscreen the moisture in the air freezez up the window...then after coming out to the car to move parking space at 7:00am its copletely frozen all over again...Yes its pretty wild,thats why im even curious if the passionfruits that ive put in this spring will even last AT ALL....All i can do is hope and cover them up....the plant in concern in planted in a garden bed made of railway sleepers and organic garden mix built up of ground height against the shed ,the ground under is crappy clay mountain rubble and shale,So hopefully it can be controlled if it does sucker,i can just tear the whole bed down and hit it with blackberry poison.......The suckering problem which i do have is rasberrys,man they go hard after the rain,but i love the berrys..ide rather them than the nasty blackberry bushes growing there ....If you want me to post more pics of the snow/frost i will.thanks | About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 18th February 2010 8:12pm #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Robert says... Hi all,hi Jantina ... I have an update about my passionfruit vines,unfortunately I lost all of the grafted black variety and gold and red and banana variety ,they almost made it over halfway through, but the lack of leaves that DID survive the frosts were finished off with the colder wind chill and slowly went yellow and dropped off,then the plant with no leaves had to die as they are not deciduous ,But an interesting result for the Passiflora Caerulea which is the rootstock for some passionfruit varieties ,which is called a Blue Passiofruit. It too lost a few leaves going yellow and just fell off when you touched them,but it's a survivor and has grown hardly very slowly in winter ,but now we are in spring ,and it's making the most of the situation in growth and loving the hot and rainy days which has been most of spring for us here. It has bloomed in flower with many buds about to burst open,they are open for approx 3 days then close up,they look beautiful when the flower opens completely,but it makes me wonder whether it's open long enough to polinate to bear fruit. I would like to try pollinate it myself but I don't want to damage the flowers,they are so detailed in design and look fragile, i will post some pics,what do you suggest,cheers | About the Author Robert5 Lithgow 25th November 2010 1:03pm #UserID: 3357 Posts: 12 View All Robert5's Edible Fruit Trees |
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cricket55 says... I have passionfruit rootstock that was unfortunately here before we bought this place. We have frosty winters that kill off uncovered grafted vines but the rootstock is healthy & growing - fast! It has spread over 40 metres from the original spot & poison - Roundup & Grazon - have been unsuccessful. We have had a little success with "organic burning" where the leaves & stems are lightly burned/wilted to alter the cell structure of the plant which then causes it to die because it can't photosynthesize. I don't know why this works better than poison, but it works for us so far. If anyone has better luck, please let me know. | About the Author cricket55 Upper Hunter 17th December 2010 10:02am #UserID: 4666 Posts: 1 View All cricket55's Edible Fruit Trees |
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