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Panama Passionfruit (dark skinned)

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Dear Sir/Madam
My elderly father who lives in Arncliffe, Sydney has a Panama (dark skinned) passionfruit vine which is full of fruit but they are not yet ripe (green tinged dark skin & they're sour). The problem is many of the fruits are falling off the vine. I would be grateful for any information your can provide re how can he prevent them falling off the vine. Also what fertilisers, plant food etc is needed for the vine and how often should it be watered etc ie general tips for care. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide us with.
Yours faithfully
Helen Chrissis
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit
Arncliffe, Sydney 2205
13th July 2010 11:51am
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Helen says...
Usually if the fruit is dropping it means that the vine isn't getting enough, or irregular water.
Just water regularly and also they grow well with lots of compost and a bit of fertiliser.
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13th July 2010 5:31pm
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amanda says...
Arncliffe - try picking out a whole heap of the leaves around the fruit :) I did the whole water and feeding thing and it made no difference (no disrespect Helen) The exposed fruit is now ripening. Remarkable difference.

This is the only vine I am having problems with and it has tonnes of foliage (and fruit). My other vines are fine and have a lot less foliage as they are only 1yr old.

(Do keep an eye on the food and water though, as Helen says. Passionfruit suck up water (here at least) in a big way in well drained soils - and they are hungry plants)
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amanda19
Geraldton. WA
14th July 2010 10:25pm
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Brendan says...
Hi amanda,
Did you know Qld DPI released a 'new' passionfruit variety last weekend, called Panama Perfection.
They're saying it's the 'best', but haven't seen photos or reviews yet.
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Mackay, Q
15th July 2010 9:08am
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amanda says...
Yes - I am interested too Brendan - I wonder what the parentage is. Can you cross purple passionfruit with panamas? or are the species too different I wonder?
My Big Red turned out to be a 'round yellow' - the only vines around it are panama golds - I am not sure if they have crossed or if I bought a dud?
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15th July 2010 11:26am
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Rev says...
They definitely hybridize

Both are P edulis
the small black is P edulis edulis - its self fertile

The large yellow is P edulis flavicarpa - requires cross pollination for good seed set, but is a larger more heat hardy and virus tolerant vine.

at local markets ive seen passionfruits for sale that are clearly hybrids of the 2

does anyone know the hsiory of the Panama series? who created it and when and how?

If you get hold of that DPI plant you can clone it cheaply. Id dip tip cuttings in IBA and place in a pot full of 5mm? Diatomite sitting in an ice cream tub in a shadehouse with automatic misters
id get near 100% rooting and really good root systems in 2-3 weeks. Its was too easy
Also did Passiflora hybrids (Edulis x incarnata), P alata and P quadrangularis this way too
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15th July 2010 1:29pm
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amanda says...
Good tip Rev... One day I would like to muck about and see if I can grow my perfect passionfruit! It would be big and sweet like a Pan Gold but have the lovely intense flavour of a purple..yumm..

The Big Red is a cinnabarina (?) the (dark yellow) fruit is quite perfect - dense and very heavy with pulp (yellow) and a thick shell - but the fruit is as sour as a lemon..yukk. Don't know what happened there???
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15th July 2010 6:49pm
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit says...
Hi Helen
Thank you for your tips - dad does water the vine regularly and use fertiliser but he hasn't been using compost so we'll definitely use some. Thanks again.
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit
Arncliffe, Sydney 2205
27th July 2010 10:19pm
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit says...
Hi Amanda
Thank you for your advice re removing foliage around the fruit. The vine has a huge amount of foliage - this could well be the problem. We'll follow your advice and hopefully it'll do the trick! :)
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amanda says...
Arncliffe - let us know how u go please? It would be great feedback :)
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Helen says...
Oh thats really interesting about removing the leaves. Maybe its the amount of nitrogen they are getting? I will have to try it. Thanks Amanda.
Also, what about possums and mice? We have one in the chook pen that the possum knocks off fruit every night.
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28th July 2010 10:17am
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amanda says...
Hi Helen - I don't have possums - so no idea how to deter them.

I use live-catch type traps in my chook pen for mice (I just put the trap under an old milk crate - as the chooks go mad trying to get to the critters!) Then I throw the whole trap in a bucket of water and drown them. It's not fun - but neither are poisons. Snap traps (at night when chooks asleep) ok too.

As for the foliage - just a light thing I reckon - I noticed with my vine that the fruit buried under all the foliage was dropping while green - so I thinned out the leaves to expose them more and they are ripening now...
Certainly won't hurt (don't strip it tho'!?) and I'd love to know if it works for others too.
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28th July 2010 1:44pm
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit says...
Hi Amanda
Your advice was great. The fruit is no longer dropping from the vine - thanks again! The pulp is still very sour though (the skin is dark so it should be sweet) - any advice?
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Arncliffe Panama Passionfruit
Arncliffe, Sydney 2205
10th August 2010 8:10pm
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amanda says...
Great Arncliffe! As for the sour - well I have a Panama red and 2 Pan golds - the fruit is still dropping a bit early on my Pan red and yes - the pulp needs a little sugar added (didn't in summer)

The pan golds are really different - they are dropping a bit early too - but still good (no sugar needed).

It may be a variety thing - my friend down the road has Hawaiian yellows and they are still sweet too.

Interesting thing tho' - I actually bought a Pan red in the supermarket last week - it was super heavy for it's size and looked perfect - I was going to collect the seeds - but it was so sour!! Mine nowhere near that bad! Paid $1.25 for it too - grr.

For what it's worth: I feed my vines: trace elements, dynamic lifter, manure (lots), blood bone, worm 'wee', wood chip and gypsum. Not all once - but a bit of this and that when I have it on hand. I leave all of the leaf litter under the vine and have lots of worms.

I shallow water regularly as they have very shallow roots and many of the nutrients are the top soil.

If u can grow Pan red - then u can grow Pan gold - I favour the gold over the red now. Much more rewarding vine.

I hope this helps.
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10th August 2010 9:32pm
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