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Longans in melbourne - Thanks Fruitylicious. I planted mine Nov 2016, growing slowly, so I'll keep this in mind for later when I figure it should start flowering - still a few years away I suppose. I just read the Wikipedia article on longan. It says "e;Potassium chlorate..18 days 7hrs
Avocados hass vs lamb hass - Well I just bought a LH because by now Bunnies Chatswood only had one left. (yesterday there were several). And yes it's clearly grafted. The label only has generic avo information on it - ie all the avo trees have the same label but with a sticker on the..46 days 1hrs
Avocados hass vs lamb hass - Hi guys, I'm still thinking which of these avos to plant. Space-wise the LH would fit easier. OK, I've checked out Daleys forum and a video. But still have a few questions to anybody whose grown a Lamb. 1. Are there any disadvantages of Lamb Hass (vs ..47 days 1hrs
Panama berry tree - I was in Vietnam and Cambodia recently, and was surprised at how common this tree is growing on streets, in front of shops, anywhere - must be thousands of them. All the ones I saw looked healthy and big despite lack of care. I noticed most of them on foo..50 days 6hrs
Longans in melbourne - That KCLO3 application sounds interesting. Will try when my Kohala gets a bit bigger. Where do you buy it? (I would have thought buying it may be restricted due to its possible use in explosive mixtures.)..137 days 23hrs
Panama berry tree - I pruned off almost half the tree after every winter, mostly off the top (in Sydney). Initially that was no problem. OK my tree died, but I think that was because we had a few cold nights that winter. Reading around it seems most people in temperate/sub t..225 days 7hrs
Calliandra haematocephala - I have found a few around here (Willoughby in Sydney). The shrub grows ok, but I'd have to say that the flowering is much more impressive in the many that I've noticed around Cairns. Interesting that they survive the Penrith winter cool...243 days 3hrs
Okinawa spinach - Well, I have found that Okinawa Spinach grows easily in Sydney. Needs a shady spot, else it goes quite limp. There's at least two varieties I've seen. The one with spoon-shaped leaves is less tough and less rampant. Tastes better in my very limited expe..262 days 5hrs
Eating immature macadamia - Thanks Fruitylicious. Yes I had read that there were some toxic varieties - hopefully not planted as city street trees, but I'll be careful, just in case.... Great name by the way...262 days 6hrs
Eating immature macadamia - Hi guys, Just wondered if it's safe to eat them, as there are a lot of immature windfalls at the moment from maca street trees (Sydney). The windfalls are quite soft, easy to open. Some varieties taste ok, a bit like young coconut; others taste bitter. ..267 days 9hrs
Green eating mangoes - Well I potted up a few KS seeds from shop-bought fruit yesterday. I'm not sure if the seed out of a green eating mango is viable when it's at the eating stage, but I'll see how they go. I had read somewhere that growing grafted mangoes rather than seed..322 days 23hrs
Green eating mangoes - Hi guys, Anybody having success growing keow savoy near Sydney? If so I would like to grow one in Sydney. I read that it's polyembrionic - so would I be ok to grow it from seed? or better to buy grafted? (in Sydney) Plenty of keow savoy in the shops..327 days 3hrs
Jaboticaba growers take heart - Hi Amanda, I read that jabos have quite low tolerance of salt. http://lee.ifas.ufl.edu/Hort/GardenPubsAZ/Jaboticaba.pdf How's the salinity in your area? As a former West Aussie I've seen a lot of backyard fruit trees suffering from salinity. (bore..328 days 5hrs
Macadamia kernels go soft after drying - Getting the correct dryness is important commercially. See http://era.daf.qld.gov.au/1964/4/mac-growing_guide_Part4.pdf page 66 Section "e;Nut-in-shell drying and storage"e;..495 days 21hrs
Calliandra haematocephala - I ended up planting a Haematocephala two years ago, because it was the first one I found for sale (RBG Sydney Botanical Gardens Shop) It's grown from tube stock to about 1m so far, and has flowered a little...547 days 2hrs

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Longans in melbourne - Hi Davewastech For a more detailed explanation on how to use potassium chlorate with longan trees just type in 'longans in Western Australia' with Google. Just click on the W.A. DPI inet address and they have an in-depth article about longan growing in..Liked Answer 18 days 7hrs
Jaboticaba growers take heart - Have you checked the date on the last post - 2013! Amanda has not been on Daleys forum for years...Liked Answer 321 days 22hrs
Free fruit trees in public places - Macadamias need to be planted along the edges of bush parks so the nuts don't drop on the footpaths, and yet people can se them and access them if they wish. All street trees need to be planted so they are not dropping fruit, seeds, nuts, leaves onto ca..Liked Answer 497 days 1hrs
Free fruit trees in public places - My concern is that people start off really keen, water them, feed them etc. Then they move, or get too old, or die, and the next person isn't interested. I see this often where I live - not in street trees, but backyards. Someone plants fruit trees..Liked Answer 497 days 1hrs
Calliandra haematocephala - Yes.....Easy! Calliandras will grow well in Sydney. I have Calliandra Tweedii in my garden which flowers almost continuously year round with amazing crimson red flowers, except for now in mid winter. It looks identical to C.haematocephala so I don't k..Liked Answer 547 days 2hrs
Okinawa spinach - It is a superfood. Sydney? I want to grow it in Katoomba, but that's probably too cold???..Liked Question 563 days 5hrs
Okinawa spinach - It grows in Auckland which is cooler than Sydney. Put it in a warm spot...Liked Answer 566 days 10hrs
Panama berry dead - Mine has been growing in a bansai bag for two years near Wollongong a few hundred metres from the beach. No problems at all. I want to get rid of it though as I don't like the taste of the fruit...Liked Answer 567 days 7hrs
Free fruit trees in public places - Trees that look good, are productive and dont cause much mess or harbour major diseases ( a major bias here for tropical plants as thats where i am, these are ones ive seen used already - except pimento and clove ) A grade Bay trees Pimento J..Liked Answer 633 days 10hrs
Lamb hass avocado1 - I actually have a Sharwil but it gets absolutely PUNISHED in the Summer here. It might fruit this year (never has before) but it's the days over 40c that it just can not deal with in anyway. Most Avocados burn a little on hot Southern days, Fuerte does b..Liked Answer 878 days 22hrs
Jaboticaba how to choose - Hi Dave, Grafted vs seedling? - there is not much difference, we have found that even grafted plants are slow Small vs big leaf variety? The large leaf is a larger more open tree with larger leaves and larger fruits that have thicker skin Any other co..Liked Answer 880 days 1hrs
Ceylon hill gooseberry - Hi all, It would be wonderful if some one could tell me how long does it take for this tree to fruit. In Vietnam I know that there is a native forest of this tree and they make into wine which is very popular there. Regards Tran..Liked Question 882 days 8hrs
Wurtz avocado3 - what's the Wurtz avocado taste like compared with Hazz? I like to buy one but not which one to choose from. I like the Hazz texture and it can keep for long time but unlike the tree size. What's your advise of these? Thanks. ..Liked Question 883 days 22hrs
Wurtz avocado - Can anyone tell me what which month you harvest the Wurtz fruit?..Liked Question 883 days 22hrs
Black sapote doesnt set fruit - Seedling tree should eventually produce fruit once mature. That may be many years after it first flowers. The long wait is the price you pay when you don't pay the price. ..Liked Answer 1082 days 10hrs
Black sapote doesnt set fruit - I purchased a Black Sapote Seedling from Daleys in August,2009. At the time of purchase there was no communication to advise that seedlings may not produce fruit. The tree has grown prolifically, it is 3 meters tall, and for the last two years has set ..Liked Question 1082 days 10hrs
Wampi variety selection - Wampis grow well from cuttings (hard and soft)...Liked Answer 1480 days 8hrs
Snails fruit trees - The copper does not work, they just go straight over them. Other than pellets the only thing which has ever worked really well for me is going out with a torch and a stomping shoe at night...Liked Answer 1480 days 8hrs

Guava - Strawberry 7/10

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Strawberry Guava aka Cherry Guava aka Cattley Guava (Psidium cattleyanum)

A good "grazing" shrub when fruit are ripening. Quite ornamental, suited as a screen. Planted one of the red and one of the yellow fruited Strawberry Guavas. The yellow (photo) suffers from Qld fruit fly, but so far the red is less affected. So I'd say the red is a better shrub. ( I'll eventually get rid of the yellow)

Taste of reds vary a bit - I know of a red in somebody's yard with bigger and much yummier fruits than others I've tried, but the Qld ff think it's yummier too.

So I would give the yellow a Satisfaction rating of 3. The red I'd give 6. And if I could find one of the big yummy kind then that would be a 9.

It is classed as a weed in wet sub-tropics and wet tropics.

Update Sept 2018 - the yellow one is gradually becoming sicker looking - probably time to dig it out shortly. The red one looks fine. 



Fruiting Months February and March

Planted: 2012

Height 1.5 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Fruit Harvest: 1 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 2 Years from purchase in pot

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Summer

After Fruiting

Pollination: Self Pollination

Fertiliser or Organics Used: NPK

When I Fertilise: Yearly

Pest Control:

The yellow suffers from fruit fly, so I use a big mosi net over it.

But so far the red doesn't need anything.

Organic Status:Organic


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Wampee - Yeem Pay 9/10

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Wonderful, rather complex taste. Fruited after 2 years. All the fruit ripened at the same time (February). Attractive shrub, looks healthy thru the whole year (I'm in Sydney).  But in second season I got no flowers or fruit. Third season got about 70 fruit.

Seedling purchased from Daleys. I planted a few seeds from my first crop and most of them are growing (slowly - 1 year old, just 20cm high), so I suppose that's an easy way to grow them if you're not in a hurry.

Fruiting Months February

Height 1.4 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

First Fruited: 2 Years from purchase in pot

Pollination: No

Fertiliser or Organics Used: Citrus fertilizer 3 / year

Pest Control:

First crop had no pests, but third season about half had Qld fruit fly. (I'll net next season!)  If it didn't get fruit fly I'd rate it 11 out of 10. Up there with the yummiest! (although not quite up there with good durians...)

Organic Status:Partially Organic


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Jaboticaba (Seedling)

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I would love it if it ever grew big, because the trees look so special. From Daleys Oct 2015. No growth when photo taken Jan 2017, but by Sep 2018 it has about doubled in size.

Planted: 2015

Height 0.2 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Pollination: Self Pollination

Fertiliser or Organics Used: Cow

When I Fertilise: Spring

Organic Status:Organic


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Comments

Fruitylicious1 says... [328 days 10hrs ago]
Jabos wanted their soil to be on the acidic side like the blueberries. I used azalea potting mix and fert and alternate it with dyna lifter to perk this turtle like movers a bit quicker. So far its working.

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Grapefruit - Ruby Red (Grafted)

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Pretty. Growing moderately fast. A few flowers spring 2017 delivering my first fruit (one) in September 2018 which was quite red inside and tasted very good, although skin was more dark yellow rather than pink.

Has a leaf yellowing problem for which I tried using Epsom salts foliar spray. Not sure if it helped (placebo effect...)

Planted: 2014

Height 2 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Spring

Spring

Pollination: Self Pollination

When I Fertilise: Spring

Pest Control:

White oil for leaf miner


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Grumichama - Black (Seedling)

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Looks good.

Update - Oct 2013

I increased the shade  because leaves had become rather yellow. (increased shade by planting a papaya to the north of it). Looking a bit better now, and finally starting to grow.

In 2012 I planted a total of 3 grumichamas, all in medium to full sun. This seems to have made the folliage rather yellow. Growth rate - very slow.

Update - Apr2016

I finally got a few flowers on one of my grumis last year, (but no fruit)

Update - Aug 2017 - One finally fruited, somewhat out of season in April 2017. About 15 little fruit, very pretty and quite tasty. The other two are still a bit yellow-leaved though.


Planted: 2012

Height 1 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 3

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Spring

Spring

Pollination: Self Pollination

When I Fertilise: Spring


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Cherry of Rio Grande

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Planted two small trees. Very slow growing - still just 35cm high

I thought they were moderately tough, but we just had one day 38degC in Sydney, and the photo shows the amount of leaf burn.

Planted: 2013

Height 25 Centimetres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Spring

Spring

Pollination: Self Pollination

When I Fertilise: Spring

Question:

I planted two. Growth rate almost zero. Planted about two years ago.


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Persimmon - Fuyu (NA) 9/10

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Update: 47 days 1hrs

Comments: - Pretty tree. Fruit quality is good. Had 35 good, large fruit this year (2016), and 2 fruits in 2015. I thinned the fruit by about 40% to improve fruit size and avoid branches snapping under the weight. Grows reasonably fast. There were a lot of Qld fruit fly around this season so I bagged the fruit in organza bags (the two fruit that I deliberately didn't bag both got destroyed by fly)

Fruiting Months April

Planted: 2012

Height 3 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

Fruit Harvest: 12 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 3 Years from purchase in pot

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Winter

Pruned By: 30% in Autumn and Winter

Pollination: Self Pollination

Fertiliser or Organics Used: manure

When I Fertilise: Winter

Pest Control:

Organza bags to stop fruit fly


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Ceylon Hill Gooseberry

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Pretty small shrub. Almost finished flowering Jan 2017 for first time. Pretty when flowering. Hopefully will soon have fruit!

Yep -  fruited in June, a few over-wintered. Fruit a bit small and taste ho-hum.

Planted: 2013

Height 0.4 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Winter

Autumn and Winter

Pollination: Self Pollination

Fertiliser or Organics Used: NPK

Pest Control:

None


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Curry Tree

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Murraya koenigii. Growing happily in summer. Dies off a little in winter while young (Sydney). But quite robust thru second winter. Mine seem to do better in the ground than in pots.

Tastes great.

Planted: 2016

Height 0.4 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Pollination: No


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Yacon 8/10

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Grew from crowns planted Sept 2016. After a slow start they then grew quite rapidly. Taste was very juicy and very crunchy, but only slightly sweet. All my attempts to "improve the sweetness" by storing in the dark, leaving in the sun, etc (as per internet) were total failures - they simply wizzen up quite soon. Maybe that might work in a cooler climate(?)

This year (2018) I've left the yacon harvest till late July/August, and the taste is a bit sweeter. Currently I've got a hole dug down one side of the roots, and just scratch around to harvest 1 or 2 tubers each day. Seems to work ok.


Fruiting Months June, July, August

Height 2 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 3

Fruit Harvest: 3 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 9 Months after I planted Cutting

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Water Given in: Spring

Pruned By: 100% in Spring

Pollination: No

When I Fertilise: Spring

Pest Control:

None

Organic Status:Organic

Question:

Anybody get them to taste sweet in a warmish climate? (eg Sydney)


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Cape Gooseberry 7/10

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Comments: - Easy grow and quick to get fruit. Old fashioned fruit; my grandma had them growing next to her outdoor toilet 50 years ago! I grew mine from seed I bought online. Some of the plants produced poor tasting fruits and others had good tasting fruits, so I just left one or two good ones. Self-seeds a bit. Tasty to add a few into a fruit salad. Usually the ones that have fallen off and laid on the ground for a few days are the tastiest.  But all cape gooseberry plants I've sampled have a rather acid taste, so I don't think you can eat a cup full without getting a belly ache. I've grown it in Perth and Sydney. I find the plant to be short-lived, at least in Sydney's clay. After a year or two it looks sick so I pull it out. Always more self seeds coming up though, so just let a new one grow.Never had one damaged by Med fly or Qld fruitfly.


Fruiting Months January, July, August, September, October, November, December

Planted: 2012

Height 0.6 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Fruit Harvest: 2 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 1 Years from Seed

Sun/Shade: Medium Sun

Pollination: No

When I Fertilise: Never

Pest Control:

None. Pests don't seem to bother it.

Organic Status:Partially Organic


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Pepino (Cutting) 9/10

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Crops most of the year. Quite productive. The young fruits take quite a long time to ripen on the bush - have to wait until they are quite yellow. If they are at all greenish the taste is not sweet, rather like cucumber. (I believe the word "pepino" also means cucumber in Spanish). The fruit will keep quite well once harvested, but they won't ripen once picked. Very easy to propagate - the runners just grow roots where they contact soil, dig a bit off and plant. Can also easily strike tip cuttings during warmer weather. I have heard that some varieties of pepino taste uninteresting, well I was lucky, mine tastes delicious! Unfortunately the neighbourhood rats think it's delicious too. Attractive ground cover, but better to let it scramble on a low trellis..

Update 2016 - I find the taste can vary quite a lot during the year, sometimes has bit of an off flavour, usually delicious.

After about 3 years the plant was looking a bit sad, so I keep propagating it into a new spot, and dig out anything looking sad, using the old ground for veggies for a while (crop rotation)

Fruiting Months January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December

Planted: 2012

Height 0.3 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

Fruit Harvest: 20 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 1 Years from purchase in pot

Sun/Shade: Full Sun

Pollination: No

When I Fertilise: Spring

Pest Control:

Qld Fruit fly will destroy most of the pepinos unless you stop them, so I put an organza bag around each fruit. Also some animal here sometimes eats some of them right thru the organza bag, probably rats, although ringtail possums might be to blame. Lo

Organic Status:Partially Organic

Question:

About 20% of the fruit have a problem. Patches of ugly greyish coloured flesh, and the affected fruit don't taste good. Appears more at some times of the year, and then I don't see any affected fruit for months. Anybody know the cause?


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Midyim Berry 3/10

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Comments: - Very slow growing. Planted in semi-shade. Flowered, but Still no fruit after 5 years.

Planted: 2012

Height 0.4 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

Pollination: Self Pollination


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Pawpaw (Seedling) 6/10

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Pawpaw Southern Red Bisexual - from Daleys. Tastes yummy, but less yummy during cold weather. I've recently figured out that the best thing to do with those green fruit that are showing a bit of skin damage from the winter is to use them up about August thru October as a vege (my favorite is Thai green pawpaw salad), because if I let them get ripe they won't taste good. Any green fruit that still look ok by October can be left to ripen on the tree. Tree looks nice from about November to June (then it looks very shabby due to the winter weather). Planted next to a north facing brick wall (NNE actually), with moderate wind exposure. Water in warmer weather. I'll give it 6/10 for Sydney climate, although I'd give almost any pawpaw 9/10 in the tropics.

I've grown a few pawpaws (mostly Southern Red bisexual or their prodigy) here in Sydney, and they usually die after 2 to 4 years. I suppose the cool winters and damp clay soils aren't kind to them. I planted some pawpaws in Perth's sandy soil once that lasted longer, and I got more fruit to the fully ripe stage (the aspect of that spot in Perth was as good as it gets though, so that may explain its better performance)


Fruiting Months January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August

Planted: 2012

Height 2.5 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 2

First Fruited: 1 Years from purchase in pot

Sun/Shade: Full Sun

Pollination: Self Pollination

Fertiliser or Organics Used: during warm season

Pest Control:

None. No major problem with pests. Some black spots on fruit mainly during cool season.

Organic Status:Partially Organic


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Acerola - unknown variety 1/10

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I might like it if it survived. Grew rapidly to about a meter, then suddenly died (early October) about 11 months from planting. I think the soil was too damp.

Planted a second one Nov 2016, growing vigorously (about 2m high by Sep 2018). This one is Florida Sweet.  Mounded the soil up this time.


Pollination: Self Pollination


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Panama Berry 7/10

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Extraordinary fast growing (3m/year in Sydney), attractive tree. Fruit are pleasant, very sweet and juicy. The leaves are soft and easily damaged by wind, so the tree can look a bit scruffy towards the end of winter until the new growth starts with warmer weather. It got sick looking and died after two years - in spring. (Clay soil?)


Fruiting Months February, March, April, May

Planted: 2013

Height 4 metres

Growing: In the Ground

Qty: 1

Fruit Harvest: 2 kilograms per Year

First Fruited: 1 Years from purchase in pot

Sun/Shade: Full Sun

Water Given in: Winter

Pruned By: 50% in Autumn and Winter

Pollination: Self Pollination

When I Fertilise: Yearly

Pest Control:

None. No fruit fly (yet)

Organic Status:Partially Organic


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