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Black sapote doesn't set fruit

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Hello, I have a beautifully healthy black sapote about three years old. This is the second season it has flowered, but just before the fruit starts to set they all drop off. It's in a sheltered position in well-drained sand, with plenty of organic matter and mulch, and I keep the water up to it. I can't see any bug activity. Is it just that it's young, or could there be another reason? I've been growing fruit trees on the NSW north coast for a couple of decades now. Any ideas most welcome
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Russell
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13th February 2012 6:06pm
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john says...
You have not told us if it's a seedling or a named graft. Some seedlings are sterile. Glowinski says that he believes that some Diospyros need X- fertilizing even when the recommendation is "not necessary"
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Russell says...
Hello John. Sorry about the lack of info. I've added a pic (hope it transfers). I think it may be a seedling. I bought it from a nursery stall at a market. It carried a generic black sapote tag with no variety name. Perhaps the problem is as you say. It flowers prolifically with a small bulb behind the flower head. Then they all drop off, leaving a short stub behind.
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Russell
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15th February 2012 12:17pm
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Kathy says...
Russell - my black sapote - set flowers for the first time this year - lots and lots! BUT the middle of each flower turned black and they fell off.
I HOPE it is just the tree is practicing!. It's about 3 years old and is a bit taller than me - and very healthy looking.
kathy
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16th February 2012 1:25pm
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BJ says...
They often take a while to produce female flowers. Seedlings often produce only male flowers, which are narrower and the flower quite triangular, for the first few years of flowering. The female flowers are much rounder and more tubular. Some seedlings never produce female flowers. Grafted plants should set fruit within 2-3years.
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16th February 2012 1:35pm
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Russell says...
Thanks everyone. I'll perservere with the tree for now.
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Harvest says...
I purchased a Black Sapote Seedling from Daleys in August,2009. At the time of purchase there was no communication to advise that seedlings may not produce fruit.

The tree has grown prolifically, it is 3 meters tall, and for the last two years has set flowers which from the advice on this forum I have identified as being only male in gender.

Should I persevere with this tree or replace it with a grafted specimen?

I am not happy that Daleys didnt bring to my attention that I may have been sold a non fruit bearing tree.
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gimme says...
Seedling tree should eventually produce fruit once mature. That may be many years after it first flowers. The long wait is the price you pay when you don't pay the price.
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sternus1 says...
Yes, I think it is unwise to buy seedling trees. I have two longan seedlings I am seriously considering replacing with grafted varieties. The last three trees daleys have sent me have all been manky and crap, despite my having given them close to 1k for the 2013 period. No more money from me, I'm instead buying from bird wood and arranging pick up from my local nursery.
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Mike Tr says...
Seedling trees are alright for many species but not usually mono mangoes,sapodilla,lychees,longan,rambutan,most citrus,atemoyas and a few others.Black sapote are a bit of a crap shoot with some seedlings never producing properly.
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27th December 2013 10:33am
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sternus1 says...
Should I cut my losses and get rid of the Longan?
That would mean more prime real estate for better trees, and I did get the existing ones on the cheap. I' ll have to check if the bernicker daleys sent me is grafted , I assumed it was and didn't check.

Got a set of three metal framed greenhouses for Christmas mike, the days of plastic covered bathtubs are behind me, thankfully. Have had a decent amount of germination with that last package thus far, more than I'd anticipated.

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27th December 2013 11:57am
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Mike Tr says...
When in doubt, chop it out. Ditch it I say and it is better to soar with the eagles than flap around with the turkeys. There are likely to be much better prospects.
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sternus1 says...
Yeah, will do. I think I can order chompoo through my local might get a pair.
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sternus1
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27th December 2013 12:42pm
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andy11 says...
Hi. I have a 'Mayer' variety from daleys 3or 4 years old. Very healthy and growing well. Flowers profusely every year but all drop off as previously descibed by others in this forum. Love some help/tips!
Thanks!
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launching place. VIC
5th April 2017 7:41pm
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Markmelb says...
I started getting good fruit set when I got another grafted variety - Bernicker tastes pretty good - didnt like my mossman much but is still early days.
I think you will need 2 to get fruit.
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