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Daisy Mandarin

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Alex N starts with ...
I love daisy mandarins but am not sure whether I can grow them here in Canberra. Does any one know whether they would survive the cold?
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Alex N
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13th September 2010 8:05pm
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allybanana says...
Your pushing it mate if you have a good little microclimate perhaps, my stepdad has a cumquat surviving winter at pialligo but they are one of the most cold tollerant. I would aim for North sun amd protection everywere else by trees or buildings and frost gaurds when young. If you have a north facing pegoda or transparent roof over an entrance or veranda i think you would have a resonable chance in the ground or a giant pot.

Alternativly go for things that love the cold and us in warmer winters would love to grow like good cherries and europen plums good luck
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13th September 2010 9:15pm
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Chris says...
better off with the Japanese satsuma types...more cold tolerant...
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Chris
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14th September 2010 6:35pm
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amanda says...
Alex - if u like Daisy - u will love Afourer - less seeds, easier peel same dark rich flesh. If u have a north facing warm wall, or such, to plant against - maybe.
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amanda19
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14th September 2010 9:42pm
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Jason says...
Most Mandarins would go -5c without a problem wouldn't they?, has it been colder than that inside Canberra proper in the last 10 years?. Daisy is my favorite mandarin also, makes all the satsuma's taste like lemons in my climate, sooooo much better
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Jason10
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15th September 2010 4:13am
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Jantina says...
Managed to get one yesterday, very pleased with myself. You can graft a bit off it later Jason.
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Jantina
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15th September 2010 7:29am
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Alex N says...
Thanks so much for all your responses! I do have a north facing fence so I think I should give one a go! Might try an Afourer too. Will let you know how it goes.
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Alex N
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26th September 2010 10:55am
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amanda says...
I just got some Mystique (spelling?) mandarins from Woolies to try. We couldn't actually peel them!?
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Seb says...
I love gardening and really appreciate good tasting fruit but you can not be serious daisy tastes like rubbish. Try this test eat the an old variety like imperial and then try this one and you have ask yourself even if their are other horticultural considerations why you might grow it, the flavour (surely what it is all about for the person who eats it), the seeds, peelability not a big deal really who thought this one was a good idea, not someone who had to eat it.
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Mike says...
With good soil and nutrition and in their prefered climate all mandarins are pretty good and all can be pretty ordinary as well.The best you can do is compare types grown in the same conditions but it won't tell you which is the 'best' mandarin.In general within a variety's tolerances they will be sweeter,less coloured with tougher, thinner skin and larger fruit in the warmer conditions.Sweeter is not always better because it is the sugar/acid balance that really adds to flavour.
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Richard says...
Have to agree with Seb. Daisy may have excellent rind colour but the flavour is ordinary at best. American rubbish pushed onto the rest of the world. Nowhere near as good as Imperial.
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12th July 2011 8:54pm
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Boris Spasky says...
I've got to add to the overblown hype that is Daisy mandarin. I don't think this relatively new variety has much merit, besides the rind colour which it gets from its parent Fremont and larger size (if size matters).
While the commercial crops are bland and probably picked too early, the taste of a homegrown one snapped off the tree is a little better, but you're left asking, what's all the fuss about. Compared to many navel oranges ready around the same time, far less rich in taste, very little true mandarin flavour and definitely more seeds than an Imperial. I'd rather eat a Washington navel any day of the week.
For a variety to have potential in the backyard, there has to be some positive qualities in the commercial fruit to work with. Unfortunately the results are not significantly different to merit growing this variety in the backyard. Prone to splitting and black spot. Mine will be getting the axe, once all the fruit is off. Strike 3 (cropping years) and out.
For a mid season variety with far better flavour, though some seeds, go for a Hickson or Afourer.
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y3yrr says...
Well said , Boris . However the Hickson does not taste good in cooler climes.
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y3yrr
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9th June 2013 9:14am
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amanda says...
Our Imperial mandy doesn't taste nearly as good this season as it did last season (and the navel orange is juicy too- but horribly tasteless)
The difference is last year they were very neglected (by the previous owner) and had been for some time..

This year, however, I have been renovating the garden soil - with heaps of kaolin clay, pig poo, coir and soil conditioner etc..
Then the beds have been watered quite heavily...in fact I know I have overwatered them (but for a reason)

Same trees in the same place - different soil treatments - different tasting fruit...(and we have had a warmer autumn..so it's not that..) in fact they are getting more sun due to removing trees around them..

Anyway..just thought I'd mention that :)

I am going to try that one on the market called "Japanese Seedless"..??
Not heard any reports tho..
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Anonymous says...
Amanda, I just bought a Japanese seedless to try. Will have to wait a while to try the fruit...
MJ
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Anonymous says...
Amanda, I just bought a Japanese seedless to try. Will have to wait a while to try the fruit...
MJ
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Japanese seedless, is that a generic Satsuma? (Unshu Mikan)I can't think of any other Japanese variety available thru the Auscitrus budwood scheme.
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Jason says...
Probably is a satsuma, I don't agree with those posters that think Imperial is any good by the way, its junk compared to daisy in my climate, lemon versus mandarin jam.. That's the difference, the Californian's know what they are doing when it comes to cool climate low heat varieties. Doesn't mean they will perform in NSW and qld but care factor zero :) you have imperial for that.
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Jason
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KeepitReal says...
Portland VIC, the citrus capital of Australia! Perhaps all that alumininum is affecting your taste buds.
The problem with Daisy is not the seeds. Honey Murcotts are popular in SEAsia and the seeds aren't a problem.
The problem with Daisy is very much like heirloom sweet corn: it deteriorates rapidly once picked. After a few days, the acid levels drop rapidly. Cool storage may speed this decline. With the drop in acid levels goes the flavour.
Imperial: must have something going for it to be still going strong since 1890...flavour! Unfortunately not exported because doesn't handle well the quarantine treatments into Asia.
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Jason says...
The smelter gives you lumpy bones if you eat food with fluoride on it but I moved away well out of its range before that happened :). I only have 5 mandarin varieties but daisy is the only one of the 5 which ripens fully with the low heat. So its so much better here that there's nothing to compare. I tend to freeze the fruit also because its impossible to eat 5 trees worth of fruit. Looking back 1 would have been enough.
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