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nickg starts with ...
hi all i am in perth.
have a jabo in a 100lt pot bought 12mths ago gets ita about 6 years old very healthy but no fruit?
when can i expect some?
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1st February 2013 8:37pm
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denise1 says...
Usually they fruit at 8 to 10 years old. If they are starved for moisture or crowded out then they may not fruit. There is a fast bearing hybrid that fruits at about 3 years old, which can be imported from hawaii from fruitlovers.
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Mike says...
nickg if it is the standard sabara jaboticaba it can fruit any time after it reached about 2m or about 5 years old.Extra fertliser and water can bring flowering on.The larger leaf grimal jaboticaba is similar in this way.
If we could bring new jaboticabas into australia the ones with shorter juvenile periods and larger fruit would be great.Red hybrid and vexator are 2 of the best of these.Those that take longer include great species like M.trunciflora and cambuca.Ireckon the yellows are pretty ordinary.white jaboticaba is in Australia and taste good but they are rare.
Myrtaceae restrictions are hereto stay and if you get seeds sent remember peat moss and sphagnum can no longer be used in seed packing in parcels fro overseas.
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Jenny says...
Do my eyes deceive me or are these flower buds on my large-leaf jab?! FINALLY! And in winter too?! Perhaps it got the message when I whacked it with the broom last spring, but extra water probably didn't hurt, either ;) Or am I getting excited too soon?
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John Mc says...
Mine's gotta be close to flowering surely. 2m+ high and at least 5-6yo.I'll take your advice Mike and feed it up. Thinking maybe 2 parts B&B, 2 parts MgSO4, 1 part Potassium Sulphate?

we've had plenty of rain lately so at least I'm half way there. If I remember correctly, Jujube Lucy fed her young Jab up well and brought on flowering well before it's time.
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Mike says...
John that brew sounds like a good mix and I bet the jab will appreciate it.It would be easier just to have one of those red hybrids that fruit at a really young age. ETA Tuesday/Wed.
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VF says...
Hi Jenny, sure looks promising! Is your plant in ground or pot? (I'm just wondering how pot grown ones do over time, as I don't have a good spot for my Jabs until windbreaks grow). Good luck!

John, sounds like a good mix to try. I'm a bit shy fertilising my Jabs after causing a bit of leaf burn once. I think it may have been too much nitrogen.

Does anyone have Jabs watered by treated water from home treatment plants? Not sure if the salts in this water are too low to worry about if the plant is in-ground (drainage good) - this would be one good spot to plant.
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Mike says...
Yep your M.spirito santensis will have a few flowers soon and probably not set fruit. They fruit only once a year and sometimes twice. It will be perhaps 3 years from now that it has its first good crop. Fertilise and water well as soon as it warms up and you never know.They produce fewer fruit than the common M.jaboticaba var. sabara.
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John Mc says...
I found that mix via Google a couple of years ago, Sure pushed along some recalcitrant Pouteria's especially the Ross. After a couple of years of doing nothing, shot up and doubled in size after applying that mix.
I'll add a little, more often to the Jabs..
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VF says...
Thanks John, I'll try it on other trees I've been a bit cautious with.
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amanda says...
Hi VF - if u take a sample of your treated water down to a hardware store that does pool water testing - they should be able to test the salt level for you...would be worth it as (in my experience..) Jab's don't like salty water...

That's a heap of Magnesium sulphate in that mix John Mc - fascinating!?
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16th June 2013 10:25am
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VF says...
Thanks for the suggestion Amanda! Will do.
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ivepeters says...
Surprised when I saw this.
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JohnMc1 says...
congrats ive, they are surprisingly delicious, I had half a doz for the first time late last year which triggered a tree full early this spring. I'm now eagerly waiting for the next flush.
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John Mc
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ivepeters says...
Didn't realise how big they get.

Question , do you pick them when totally dark in colour ?
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sternus1 says...
Ive pick them when they are dark but when you push into them, the flesh springs back; if you depress the flesh and it stays sunk they're overripe. Will give you multiple crops, the secret is tonnes of water.
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ivepeters says...
Thanks, yeah they do like their water.
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1st December 2014 8:41pm
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The poster formerly known as... says...
Ive, that's a Grimal. Much larger than the regular jab fruit. Sometimes gets near coronata in size. Mine is starting to push its second flush after the recent rain.
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MIke T1 says...
Bruce they look like standard sabara to me and are not that big when you enlarge the pic.My grimal/large leaf/M.spirito santensis just fruited and they are larger and furry.M.oblongata and M.trunciflora can have big dark smooth fruit almost Coronata size.
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JohnMc1 says...
Yes, mine is the standard nursery propagated Myrciaria cauliflora. The Rio red's that Mike sent me are still several years away from fruiting. I'm led to believe they fruit much sooner than M cauliflora.
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ivepeters says...
Yes it is a large leaf,grimal,had it two years only small still.
Was expecting grape size fruit at best.
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Mike Tr says...
Sorry I was looking at John's sabara picture.My grimal has a bucket of great fruit and they are better than sabara but I could just be a bit sick of those.I am busting for my escarlate,red hybrid,vexator,coronatas,giant yellows,whites and a range of big plinias to grow up and fruit.Cambuca,dwarf mulchi,giant mulchi and Plinia rivularis are really jaboticabas being in the genus Plinia where all existing jaboticabas will be moved to some day.
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ivepeters says...
All good things come to those who wait, in our case that's all we have to do.
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The poster formerly known as... says...
Mike, if you ever have a spare scarlet Id be happy to pay for one. Or if you had a reliable seed source. Mine were DOA. Dwarf mulchi is just about ready to go in the ground now that its nice and moist.
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Mike Tr says...
I had them from 3 different sources Bruce and only 3 came up from many and now they are in the ground.If any of the new seeds sprout I will let you know as I just planted some seeds.
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Josh morris says...
I'm searching for the red hybrid. is it in AUS. is that what you mean by scarlet. has anyone had success in ordering from fruit lovers hawaii. ??
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Bangkok says...
This is my white jaboticaba 2 years old now. It grows slow but the branches can't keep themselves up. If i don't stake them they all droop.

I saw other white jabo's on the web and they don't have that. What can i do to make them have stronger branches?

My other white jabo's have the same problem, i pruned one so it looked like a real tree but after it grew they are drooping again.

This one is in a 100 litre pot and gets watered citywater daily by sprinkler. It gets cowdung sometimes and osmocote 13-13-13. Also monthly sprays with seaweedextract.



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Mike Tr says...
They are supposed to weep and your is small Bangkok.It needs more sun and more root space.
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Bangkok says...
Cheers Mike, more sun i can do but it is in a 100 litre pot and there are no bigger plastic pots available.

Maybe i should plant it in full soil/sun now.
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joshua says...
Yes the whiTe had a similar growth habit to the yellow. weeping.100l pot should do it for some time. I recently have seen 3m sabara plants in a 150l pot. Ibe had a good response to the red hybrid searching from the tropical fruit forum and have been given a small plant and sourced some seed in a us. I'm still waiting for germination
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joshua says...
Whilr I'm at it here's a pic of my yellow from seed. about 3 years now I think..I think could be bigger but it gets cold up here
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Mike Tr says...
Yeah do it, it is big enough.
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Bangkok says...
I planted it in full soil now but the rootball was still small, would also fit in a 20 litre pot. It gets full sun untill 3 pm.

I don't stake it anymore, Just let it weep and do it's thing.

Mike your tree looked more like a real tree i remember, no weeping branches. Mine looks like a weeping willow.

When i sprouted these seeds they grew 10cm and then died...then sprouted again and at 10 cm died again..That happened 4-5 times in row and then they finally grew through that.

Am i right that from white jaboticaba one can eat the peel as well?
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Bangkokii says...
Here is my first white jaboticaba after 4 years growing from seed.

The other tree is in a big pot but didn't bloom yet.

This one was small, maybe i picked it too early but the taste was very very good...like a sweet/sour candy.

Can we also eat the seed of this one?

I had another fruit which dropped.

It bloomed after i gave it draughtstress because it's next to my durian which is also blooming now.
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Bangkokii says...
The white jaboticaba is blooming again since many months but only 1 fruit set.

The other one still doesn't bloom which was in a pot all the time.

I don't see any bee's or ants on it, i hope i get more fruit once the other one also blooms
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