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Jason says... I'll get some one day when you have spare. Always been wondering if the species in Kefer would set my immune condition towards the good direction or make it worse :0. Some bacteria work well some not. Getting a stable culture has been the difficult part for me but Kefer is very stable. I just haven't tried it yet. Just like I haven't tasted the glass of rotten orange juice that's been bubbling away nicely here on my desk all week to see if I can find a magic culture.. lol but that's just out of fear more than anything else. I started the orange juice from a 6 month old saurkraut that I was too scared to taste so who knows what's in it :p | About the Author Jason Portland 18th July 2013 1:59am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Wow Jason, please don't be too brave. I did extensive research into the Kefir milk before I put it in my mouth. I'm Chinese so dairy food is not normally in my diet other than an occasional flat white and a dash of milk in a cup of tea so I am amazed that I am now addicted to the stuff. I even made cheese with the surplus, to spread on toast. Now that the weather is warming up I'm sure I'll have more in no time. Not sure how they'd travel to Portland though. I'm waiting to hear if others received theirs in the mail. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 18th July 2013 9:51am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Julie, nothing can be simpler! I use a plastic coffee filter lined with cheesecloth put over a jug and strain the yoghurt overnight and voila! Cottage cheese on toast in the morning! The reason I'm giving most of the grains away is because they do multiply and I don't want to overdose; but it is yummy. Good enough to take the place of butter though I love butter. The yoghurt is also useful to put on curries to temper the heat. Anyway, the exodus was a great success. I've been sending grains to other suburbs in Sydney and the ACT and they arrive within 2 days in a ziplock bag inside a standard envelope. No charge, btw.
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MaryT says... Jason if you'd like some grains you'd better send me an address but I have put you on the top of the list. I'd like to know how they'd travel to Portland (Victoria?) Here are pics of a great gadget: I think $5 at Woolies: it has a built-in strainer with a handle but best of all it has a little clip that you can use to 'hang' the strainer over the container so straining the kefir milk couldn't be easier! The grains can live in the strainer inside the container. Once the amount builds up it makes kefir milk at record time so I give any excess away as they muliply as I don't want to mess around with larger amount than this.
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Jason says... Thanks for sending those Mary. I've read today while reading about Kefir that it can have a side effect of lowering your IgE levels. Given that mine were over 4000 before I started taking drugs to lower them (2000 now) (normal is under 200) it could turn out to be excellent stuff for me. | About the Author Jason Portland 3rd August 2013 12:44am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jason, I tend to think of it as a good food rather than pay too much attention to health claims. Expectations often lead to disappointment. I need to be careful I do not take too much because I use full cream milk and that's extra calories and cholesterol to add to my normal diet. That's why I'm giving away the excess. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 3rd August 2013 8:14am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Well I don't listen to claims by health shops selling things, I'm only reading scientific papers. Sometimes there's a difference between mice and Jason's but usually its the same. I have experimental blood tests every couple of weeks so we will soon see :). Imho the bacterial load in your gut is the brain for everything in your immune system, getting it right after its been broken is the problem. | About the Author Jason Portland 3rd August 2013 2:18pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... MaryT after having appendicitis about 6 weeks ago they drenched me with very useful but vile antibiotics for 12 days, and after I came off them I had all the symtoms of Irritable bowel Syndrome ie cramping, frequency (about 20 times a day)looseness and bleeding.A glassful of Kefir twice a day has sorted me out and there are no problems now. Tried going without after a week to see what would happen and the symtoms returned albeit milder. So now I go without once a week to see where I'm at and there is steady improvement. I have a girlfriend with Crohns who has also had helpful results.Will have a go with your cheese idea, thanks. | About the Author Jantina 3rd August 2013 5:45pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jason I read that report and thought it funny that the allergy specialist's comment regarding the success of kefir reducing IgE levels in mice was: "We need much more supportive evidence before a human trial could be contemplated" and yours: "Sometimes there's a difference between mice and Jason's but usually its the same" I bet if your levels are reduced by taking the milk kefir that specialist would say that it proves nothing :) The thing is no one can make any money out of this so no one will invest money in a trial until someone can isolate certain components of the kefir and artificially (read cheaply) reproduce them to be put in a pill. THEN maybe they would admit no, ADVERTISE that it works. Not only that; I bet a large number of specialists will be invited to a "conference" at a swanky hotel in an exotic location for a weekend to hear "experts" proclaim the invention of a miracle cure and little sample packets of pills will be distributed to specialists around the world to push the drug (along with pens, clocks, cute toys, stationery, jackets and other goodies emblazoned with the name of the new and improved kefir pill). Cynical? You bet. They should make these sorts of bribes illegal. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 4th August 2013 6:40am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I scored some water Kefir in Bridgetown today!? (Health food shop had some) Tasted some kefir in coconut cream and it was delicious!? Have no idea about water kefir - but about to learn. It likes a seashell in it's culture jar.. :) I also bought some lyophilised Kefir culture ("Turkish yoghurt" Kefir..?) I hope I can keep them both alive... (along with my Mother of Vinegar...) Lol...it's getting very crowded near the fire place here.... | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (150km south of Perth) 6th August 2013 7:13pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... The owner of the shop said she has them at her home also...so I reckon if you rang the shop and arranged for some in advance then it would be easiest... She may even be able to send them. I'd offer u some but have a few folks waiting already and mine not growing all that fast in the colder weather -plus I am a complete novice :o) Or - try this company Cultures Alive - they ship microbes around the place too... I am going to order the milk kefir as the starter cultures in the health food shops are not the same as the "real deal" https://www.facebook.com/culturesalive?filter=3 | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (150km south of Perth) 13th August 2013 9:16am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey MaryT - that's an incredibly kind offer :o) But fortunately I have found someone local to swap some water kefir with! I drank my first bottle of kefir water - which I had added fresh slices of ginger to and then kept in the fridge for a cupla' days...it's pretty addictive stuff!? Like an earthy, pleasantly mild sweet and very softly spritzed ginger beer.. Can't wait to try it with coconut water!? PS - have a safe trip! :) | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (150km south of Perth) 14th August 2013 4:42pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Thanks, Inahdi. No, I'm not sure about that sugar in water kefir either. In any case I do not have a habit of drinking flavoured water or juice. Dairy was not my thing either but I find the milk kefir useful for making yoghurt and cheese. I like the yoghurt in my curries, salad dressings and cream soups and the cheese on toast with smoked salmon, avocado and even banana/figs dusted lightly with icing sugar and cinnamon. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 15th August 2013 6:16am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Hi LizB, sure I can send you some grains. Just email me at the address above and leave your address. Mine are milk grains so you would need to feed it with milk. You can ferment/sour coconut milk with it but the grains will eventually starve to death; it needs mammal milk, I believe. I have been receiving requests for them constantly since I posted initially so it's lucky the stuff multiplies. :) Just had some kefir cheese with smoked salmon tonight. Yum | About the Author MaryT Sydney 2nd October 2013 8:47pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... No, Leslie; I don't sell them but am happy to send you some. The kefir grains are meant to be shared. I received mine from a friend who brought it to my door. It's the least I can do to spread that goodwill around. I live within walking distance to many mail boxes in every direction and the post office so it's not trouble popping an envelope in the post. Oh I just realise you're in Neutral Bay! You can call around if you like. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 4th October 2013 7:00am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... More information please, Phil. If your grains have shrunken so much I guess you are either keeping them in the fridge for too long or not feeding them properly? Or you have eaten the grains? The idea is to strain the grains off as the milk thickens then put fresh milk with the grains ad infinitum. P.S. if you have eaten them I heard that they can survive in your gut and do their thing there, as long as you drink milk :) | About the Author MaryT Sydney 16th October 2013 8:45am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Phil it's probably worth while straining the yoghurt to see if there are any grains there - if so, isolate them and feed them with fresh milk. If they're there they will grow. Otherwise I can send you more in a week or so. They grow very fast in the heat. It's shocking in Sydney today; hot and windy and smoky from fires. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 17th October 2013 5:44pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I think my problem is that we eat it when it has set like a junket, rather than drinking it..harder to find the grains like that as it doesn't strain easily. Will sift through my current batch and see if I can find anything. Interestingly it still performs well even tho I just transfer a tblsp of my culture into the fresh milk each time, maybe I"m just making yoghurt or curdled milk | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 18th October 2013 10:44am #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Phil as long as it works for you; I'm sure there is no right or wrong way but maybe you are 'missing something' without the grains. Maybe not. Doing it your way would eliminate the bother of having too much of the stuff; it grows like the triffids. The advantage of having the bulk is that it would set any amount of milk super fast. It's handy for me sometimes because some of my friends like the yoghurt but don't want the bother of making it. They love it when I bring them a small bucket of the stuff when I visit. What I find is that after straining the thickened milk (before it 'sets') and letting the milk sit for a day or two it will continue to thicken and set. This could be because I don't use a fine sieve (see pic) so small bits of the grain escape to do their thing. :)
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MaryT says... I normally keep them on the kitchen bench but when I end up with too much I slow it down by putting it in the fridge for a break. I change it twice a day because usually it's thick by then but I don't drink it immediately after I strained the grains off. I find it more palatable if I keep the milk in the fridge for a day or two; it also gets thicker as it sits especially as I like to let it go back to room temperature before I use it. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 18th October 2013 4:38pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I only use it to reculture my gut imho it works just as good as the most fancy probiotic mixtures without the dodgy soil based organisms some lesser scientific probiotic mixes have. The bulk of cultured milk I'm drinking is normal yogurt without the common s thermophilus (dodgy) that they use in a lot of commerrcial yoghurts. I let the yoghurt go for 24hours. The Kefir takes about 24 hours to go firm at room temp here even with a cup full of grains. I've been doing the 24 hours on the kefir then adding blueberry jam to the strained milk afterwards and leave that in the fridge for another day. That gives me some kind of zingy bubbly stuff that tastes OK. | About the Author Jason Portland 19th October 2013 3:20am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jason I am so glad to hear that you find the grains work well as a probiotic. I find it is helpful to me too, particularly in getting a restful sleep. I drink mine neat and put it on cereal. I use it in cooking. I think I might need to start eating them like Phil to reduce the bulk. :) | About the Author MaryT Sydney 19th October 2013 6:48am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Nathalie I went to send you an email to say that the grains are in the post and somehow sent your email into cyberspace instead (I'm good at that sort of thing). Anyway when they arrive just wash them in good quality water then put them in a container and add milk. All done! Phil and Peter yours have gone too :) | About the Author Jantina 23rd October 2013 2:04pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jantina, thank you for diverting some of the kefir traffic away from me as I am still trying to clear a backlog of 'orders'. They keep coming! I like to think that those who persevere with the care of their grains will enjoy better health. apd358 I agree with Jantina that goats milk would be fine; any mammal milk will do. Not UHT milk though. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 30th October 2013 7:16am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... Interestingly I have a culture from Mary T which the whole household fights over in the morning , but it is more like a junket and is very creamy in texture. I think as we discussed I actually ate the grains at some stage but I still transfer a tbsp from it each time I make up a new batch. Jantina's grains have worked instantly despite being in the postal system for a week, and I now remember the zingy flavour which is generally described - will treat this more like a beverage. I wonder what would happen if I combined the two? | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 1st November 2013 9:57am #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... That's interesting Phil, Jason did point out that each persons kefir would be a little different according to the bugs predominant in different environments. I think I would mix a bit together to see what you get just for fun. Jason, I didn't word my question very well.What I meant was how would you create water grains in the first place? Just leaving water stand wouldn't do it would it, after all our water sits in tanks for months on end and doesn't do anything that I can see.Milk on the other hand goes sour. And what do these water grains look like? my milk grains are white like little cauliflowers, are water ones clear ? sorry I'm a very curious person always wondering about things. | About the Author Jantina 1st November 2013 4:17pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... MaryT perhaps we should swap a few grains just to see what the other has. I just remembered that sometimes I add a little bit of Xylitol (a type of low GI sugar)and a dash of vanilla and drink my kefir like that, it tastes a lot like Advocate (of which I'm rather fond).Anyway I gave a glassful to a visitor who thought I could make money with it, ha ha. And also my sister's kefir which came originally from me now tastes different to mine and hers is much thicker. So Phil perhaps the grains I sent you will end up the same as the ones from MaryT in your environment.Very interesting! | About the Author Jantina 1st November 2013 4:25pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Jantina I don't think anyone can even agree how milk grains first got going. Someone managed to recreate them by using a sheep intestine in milk?. All they are is a cluster of fungi and bacteria growing happily together and off each other. But getting the species involved just right seems difficult without stealing it straight from nature :). The milk ones have different species and more of them than the water ones. The health benefits seem to be from overcrowding of non human friendly bacteria and fungi that we build up over time by eating lots of grains. I read a fair bit about it because I'm trying to modulate my broken immune system with bacteria and food. Kefir seems to be a good thing so far, its hard to get any life out of pro biotics in the shops and most commercial yogurts have bacteria that causes inflamation (s. thermophilus) so I've been making my own without that one in it. | About the Author Jason Portland 1st November 2013 5:52pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... MaryT could you email me your address please, my email address was posted on 19/10 and I will email you back my home address and send you some of my grains to experiment with:) apd358 depends on what you call funny, the smell changes a bit according to how long the batch has been brewing. Just went and smelled mine and it smells a bit of alcohol and milk and is a bit spritzy. | About the Author Jantina 5th November 2013 5:06pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jantina I have just sent you my address. apd358 some days my kefir milk smells more sour than others. Must admit mine never 'sets' as thick as some commercial yoghurt; it's more like thick whipped cream. It's not heavy and dense, but thick. Hard to describe. I strain it twice a day, morning and night then leave it in the fridge for at least a day but as long as a week or more. Occasionally I make cheese and the cheese is like whipped ricotta? Again hard to describe. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 5th November 2013 6:04pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I now have three cultures on the go.. Mary T's original which sets like a junket, nice as a dessert or for breakfast. Jantina's grains which do the zingy effervescent thing which is what I strain and drink. Plus a combination of both which I have just started - I have high hopes for the health benefits of this new combination | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 5th November 2013 8:55pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I'm fortunate to have a dairy around the corner so I use raw, unpasteurized milk. There is a little too much cream in it but it still cultures well. Most milk has a certain amount of antibiotics in it which is unavoidable unless you source an organic product. I wonder if it suppresses any of the natural bacteria in the kefir. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 6th November 2013 8:15am #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jantina your grains arrived - it does look different to mine; yours actually look like grains; mine never did. Also there are bright yellow bits of cream (?) that looks like butter - your jersey cows must have rich milk. I have rinsed them in some milk (I don't have 'good quality water', just Sydney Tap), drained them off and put them in milk. Can't wait to see if I get a different result to mine. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th November 2013 11:38am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Yes MaryT the yellow bits are cream, as the grains stand in their milk for 24 hours the cream rises, there's usually about half an inch of cream on about 2 inches of milk. If you checked out the size of my hips you could see that I'm in good paddock !!! LOL I run my little dairy on the bribery system (lucerne hay) and the cows reward me well for it. I was unable to get any lucerne at one stage in the dry and had to give them ordinary hay. They were not happy! A friend said said "No wonder, they have been getting Tim Tams and now your giving them Rice Crackers!" So yours never looked like grains you say, well it will be interesting to see what they do at your place over the next few weeks. I have spare grains if you want me to send them to Gabby. | About the Author Jantina 11th November 2013 6:02pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Thanks Jantina; I never heard from Gabby again. Some people ask on the forum but never contact me by email and others asked by email and not on the forum. Some ask for grains but never supply an address so... Wow you feed your cows with lucerne; no wonder. I use supermarket organic milk. :) | About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th November 2013 7:14pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Had a bit of an accident with the milk kefir. Jantina's grains seem to have fattened but the milk only thickened very slightly. Yesterday I stirred both mine and Jantina's with the same spoon without thinking and this morning both batches are very thin whereas usually mine would be quite thick. It's warmer today so hopefully they'll wake up and do their thing. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 13th November 2013 7:11am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I also have a hybrid of Mary T's and Jantina's... it is thick and creamy and the grains are also multiplying, Jantina's in a seperate container make a nice thin sour drink with grains whereas Mary T's original batch are a lovely junket-like dessert or breakfast treat but smooth. Thanks to you both, just hoping Richard doesn't put the jars through the wash.. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 13th November 2013 7:38pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Sounds good MaryT, I'm really looking forward to trying yours. There is no end to the interesting things in this world. As to the Greek goat herd, I suppose they could have come in many years ago when AQIS did not exist,and the old folks kept it going( just like they let me in wearing my little wooden farm clogs)! Phil I'm delighted to have been able to give you something you enjoy(and which is good for you). | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 14th November 2013 8:26am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Oh good, Jantina. Thanks for yours! It's doing nicely but behaves quite differently to mine. Yours froths up; mine just laze around turning creamy. I'm sure the clogs would be allowed in even today. A few months back I came home with a ton of organic matter - spear, bows and arrows, sword, axe, masks, bowls, shells, bone, hollow logs, you name it from PNG and they just waved me through after looking at my 'weapons'. :) Though your clogs might be more deadly. haha | About the Author MaryT Sydney 15th November 2013 9:58am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jantina, It may take a few days to recover from the trip. Just strain the milk off (you can taste that) and start again with fresh milk. Giving it a stir now and then gets it going faster. How long it takes to thicken depends on the ratio of grains to milk. The greater it is the faster it turns so if you want to hurry it up use half the amount of milk to start. I find that when my stock is down it takes longer to thicken. When they build up it takes a matter of hours and when there's a lot and they are fat and hungry it is almost instant. It is quite scary. Room temperature is also a factor. It's been quite cool here and my grains have slowed down, especially now that I only have a small amount after a recent exodus. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 18th November 2013 8:57am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Sorry for the late reply; I was locked out of the forum for whatever reason: Joel86 you can email me with your address and I will put you on the list but it might be a while before I send out the next batch. apd358 - yes, Jantina's grains behave that way here as well and I believe it's normal - right, Jantina? | About the Author MaryT Sydney 20th November 2013 12:35pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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EMJ says... Hi Mary, could you please send me some kefir grains when you next have excess? My family had some years ago and they were fantastic. We made yummy yoghurt drinks and yummy cheese - we even made mozarella! PS I loved reading about the differences between yours and Jantina's grains.... Fascinating! Thank you, Elinor | About the Author EMJ Curtin ACT 25th November 2013 11:24am #UserID: 8369 Posts: 4 View All EMJ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annief1 says... hi, just like to drop in and say hi and a big Thank you to Mary as she sent me some milk kefir grains previously and they are doing great. They have been thick and yummy. I do a secondary fermentation after straining them out.Does anybody else do that? Other than the milk kefir grains, I've also got some water kefir grains and I have plenty excess grains at the moment. They nearly double after each fermentation. So if anyone wants some water kefir kefir grains let know so I can send them to you. My daughter loves them as they taste like soft drinks and pop like champagne every time we open the bottle. As for the milk kefir grains, I won't have any excess grains for a while as I have so many friends and relatives wanting some so I will post when I have excess milk kefir grains to share. Just out of interest, as I've had so many excess water kefir grains, i used them on my plants and they seems to be very happy. But not sure if it's good or bad in the long term. Annie | About the Author Annie FIVE DOCK,2046,NSW 29th November 2013 2:15pm #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annief1 says... Hi Peter, I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Please reply with your postal address. I was having issues replying on this forum with my Ipad hence the delay. If I get your address before Monday, I will post it to you on Monday. Annie Mary, I just need to try doing cheese and use the whey to make fermented vegetables..lots of fun stuff to do. Thanks again. Annie | About the Author Annie ULTIMO,2007,NSW 30th November 2013 10:08am #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Have fun, Annie - the cheese is truly delicious and so easy to 'make'; in fact it's no effort at all. Whenever I have too much yoghurt I just dump it on a cheese cloth over a large strainer and voila! Cheese! I have to try not to eat too much of it :) Even talking about it makes me want to go to the fridge for some :) It keeps for ages too. Ummm I think I have some smoked trout and I've just picked some fresh dill... | About the Author MaryT Sydney 30th November 2013 10:35am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annief1 says... Diana, I have posted the water and milk kefirs to you today. You should receive shortly. If anyone doesn't receive the kefirs let me know. I may have put a bit too much inside but I checked I'm within the standard postage limits. Mary, happy to share with others when you were also very kind to share with me. Enjoy your holidays. My e-mail is anniefoo AT HOTMAILdotCom if anyone else require them. just put the heading as kefir so i won't dismiss as junk mail. Annie | About the Author Annie ULTIMO,2007,NSW 3rd December 2013 2:25pm #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana81 says... Thankyou Annie for kindly giving me some grains. I have just received your parcel in the mail and am about to start fermenting. Can I ask what type of sugar you've been using in your 1st fermentation to make your water kefir? Do you add any dried fruit to that too? The reason I ask is because your grains look very healthy and plump. Thanks very much Diana | About the Author Diana81 Hurstville 4th December 2013 2:55pm #UserID: 9145 Posts: 4 View All Diana81's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annief1 says... Diana, Thanks for letting me know the receipt of the grains. I was concerned that you wouldn't receive them as I put a bit too much grains in the envelope and was afraid it would get rejected. As for the sugar, I use organic sugar called Organic Mountain Panela sugar from Harris Farm about $4.50 for 500g. Basically any type of evaporated sugar that has all the minerals in it. It should be brown coloured. I usually use the ratio of 4 tablespoons of sugar to 4 tablespoons of grains to about 2 liters of filtered water. I use tap water kept overnight to let the chlorine evaporate. I also cut 2 slices of organic lemon and also 8 or 10 pieces of raisons or any dried fruit you want (if you use figs maybe you just need one). I hope the above helps. Others may have better ideas. Annie | About the Author Annie ULTIMO,2007,NSW 4th December 2013 3:05pm #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz B says... Phil - I got some grains from Mary a few months ago (thank you!!) and I think i've done the same thing. I thought i was straining them out but really i was just taking about half a cup from the top of a just-finished batch to use in the next one. My kefir is reallly thick now (and delicious since i've started using raw cow milk). I probably have eaten the grains but it still seems to be doing its thing .... I wonder if this affects the quality/efficacy of the probiotics etc? Somewhere I read that unstrained kefir jsut gets superstrong lol. | About the Author Liz B Canberra 5th December 2013 2:45pm #UserID: 8248 Posts: 3 View All Liz B's Edible Fruit Trees |
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PhilTyalgum1 says... Yes I am keeping Mary T's strain of kefir as I really enjoy the flavour and consistency of the batches I make with it.. Jantina's grains are multiplying as well, so I jiggle around with whatever I have in stock. Usually have about four jars on the go at any one time, but am pleased to have kept the two different strains going. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 5th December 2013 4:47pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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LisaSnow says... Hi Am so excited to find this forum. Would love some kefir grains, have been looking everywhere to buy them but everybody is out of stock. Would also be interested in the water ones but don't know so much about them. My email address is lisasnow44@me dot com if anybody has some. Would be happy to pay for them. Lisa | About the Author LisaSnow 2112 5th December 2013 11:16pm #UserID: 9161 Posts: 6 View All LisaSnow's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Kefir grains (milk and water varieties) are available on gumtree.com.au from different sellers from $6 to $10 per tablespoon. This is not an advertisement - I don't know these sellers but if there are people who wants to buy the grains instead of waiting for my free grains, they're out there. I am only giving away my excess grains; I won't be producing commercial quantities so when the demand exceeds supply, requests are placed in a queue. :) | About the Author MaryT Sydney 6th December 2013 7:22pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Jason I really like your jam idea - I tried it with my sour plum jam and the result is fabulous. Jantina I suspect your grains were originally water kefir grains from the way they produce bubbles. Mine never bubbled. I've given up trying to segregate them; I'm not disciplined enough :) So now I think there's a bit of each in the other, just different proportions. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 8th December 2013 11:31am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi MaryT, apologies for my disapearance from the forum, we have been away and over run with visitors. I got confused with which was which in all the hooha and also gave up trying to keep them separate and now have hybrid grains and am quite happy with the result. Someone offered me water grains to try so now awaiting their arrival. Interesting if mine were originally water grains. Might put some of my milk ones in water and see what happens. Phil , if you can keep 4 jars going at once and not get confused I'm very impressed with your organizational abilities :) | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 9th December 2013 12:05pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Hi Jantina, it's good to know that our two strains of kefir are joining forces and living in harmony - though I wouldn't know it if there's a war raging in those containers :) I'm going away myself so will wait till the new year before getting more of the original grains from my Greek shepherd descendant friend :) Phil I can send you some of that then so you can have an extra jar to care for lol | About the Author MaryT Sydney 9th December 2013 12:38pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Annie, I don't think a starter is mandatory for kimchi and I haven't actually got around to making some myself but I have a friend who makes it and my understanding is that a teaspoon of fermented kimchi guarantees success. I do have kombucha tea but my comment to Phil was mainly meant as a joke in response to his kitchen looking like a scene from "The Blob", didn't mean to intimidate you about your kimchi attempts. Good luck with it. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 10th December 2013 4:24pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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LisaSnow says... Thanks so much Annie, my Kefir and Soda grains arrived today. I put the kefir grains straight in milk as it's such a hot day. Do you think it'll be OK to consume as it's so hot. It's a bit smelly (perhaps that's how it should be?). Can you please help with the proportions of rapadura and water for the soda grains? It looks like about 1 tablespoon of the grains. I think it's about 1 cup of rapadura but that seems like a lot. Do I add about 2 litres of water and I think I need to heat it up a bit so the sugar melt. I presume I then let it cool so the grains stay alive. Thanks for you help and thanks so much for the grains. I'll take care of them and keep in touch with how they are helping. Lisa | About the Author LisaSnow 2112 10th December 2013 8:27pm #UserID: 9161 Posts: 6 View All LisaSnow's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TT says... Annie, You don't need Kimchi starter nor require a teaspoon of fermented Kimchi. Never heard about that. Have seen and read that one of ingredient to add are salted shrimps and/or salted anchovy juice. You can easily get them at Korean grocery stores. Preparing Baechu(cabbage) is one of important process of making kimchi. Have fun making them. | About the Author TT Sydney 10th December 2013 9:35pm #UserID: 9143 Posts: 3 View All TT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annie says... Jantina, Thanks for the info. I have never made kimchi before. Only watching YouTube videos on some peoples blogs. I just hope I don't get myself into hospital!!!!! Lisa, I use the following proportions for water kefir. Others may have a different method. I use 4 tbs of water kefir for 2 litres of water with 4 tbs of organic rapadura sugar. I also add approx 10 dried raisins / currants and a slice of organic lemon. I use about half to 1 cup of hot water to dissolve the sugar and let it cool to room temperature. Then I add everything together. As for the milk kefir, I presume the smell is a sour smell. Just rinse and it should be okay. It might take a few days to get accustomed to the new environment. TT, I watched someone putting fresh oysters in it. But I'm not game enough. I might try one with and without shrimps. Thank you. Annie | About the Author Annie Ultimo 11th December 2013 12:30am #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kim14 says... Hi Mousie You can try brewing a few batches and see how you go. They are supposed to be very hardy so I think you will be okay. It might take one or two batches before they bounce back so don't drink the first few batches if they smell funky. Annie, I made kimchi following below recipe - turned out delicious! Better than at the restaurant. I omitted the oyster but next time will try putting some in. http://www.maangchi.com/recipe/easy-kimchi | About the Author kim14 dianella 11th December 2013 11:44am #UserID: 6755 Posts: 97 View All kim14's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annie says... LisaSnow, To get fizzy soda type drink you need to strain the grains out and do second fermentation in a flip top bottle. Once strained, you have to bottle it in a flip top bottle such as those beer bottle types. Most people flavour it buy adding fruit juice. I like to add apple and blackcurrant juice (similar to ribena juice). Ferment it the counter for another day and pop it into the fridge. Then you will have fizzy soda type water kefir. Annie | About the Author Annie ultimo 16th December 2013 12:37pm #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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inez says... Merry Xmas everyone. Would anyone have any spare milk and water kefir grains to spare? Sorry to ask around this busy season but I'm really keen to try as I have been battling with leaky gut and allergies (myself and one of my children)- hoping this might help.
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LMB says... Happy New Year everyone :) I enjoyed reading the comments on this site. I am hoping that I may be able to receive some milk kefir if anyone has some to spare. I believe it will help me greatly as I have gut and immune system issues resulting from long term antibiotic and cortisone treatment. Thanks. | About the Author LMB Lindfield 12th January 2014 1:51pm #UserID: 9303 Posts: 3 View All LMB's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Good on you, Annie. I continue to get requests by email. A couple of days ago one of the recipients told me that she had not heard of the Daleys' forum: she had obtained my details through Gumtree. I have no idea how that happened. I guess it's only a matter of time that word would get around about freebies but to slow the traffic and to encourage people to read about the kefir first I have decided not to accept requests without first getting contacted via this forum. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 15th January 2014 6:46am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michelle says... Hi Mary Happy new year! I am wondering if you have any kefir grains available?? I never tried them but I've heard so many great testimonials that I'm very eager! And I've loved reading the dialogue and interchange here with various suggestions!! I looked through all the posts and could find your email up the top.. I'm in sudney and happy to collect if more convenient - if/whenever you may have available... Much thanks Michelle Ps: loved the thread about kimchi and kumbucha too! They, and cultured fermented vegetables "on my list" for later! | About the Author Michelle Watsons bay 19th January 2014 12:59am #UserID: 9342 Posts: 6 View All Michelle 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Hi Michelle - yes, I've removed my email address because I've been getting enquiries outside of the forum (from people passing the address to others, I presume). Not that I want to exclude anybody but the numbers were getting difficult to attend to. I won't have extra for a while but will post on this thread when I do. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 19th January 2014 6:33am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jordie says... Hey guys, Just wondering if anyone has any kefir grains to give away. I'm new to fermenting and excited to start! I've lost count of who has available kefir grains or not on this thread... I would prefer water kefir grains but if you have milk or both that would be great. Thanks! :) Jordie | About the Author Jordie Meadowbank 7th February 2014 4:44pm #UserID: 9451 Posts: 1 View All Jordie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annie says... Joy, I've received your e-mail with your address. I ill try to send out today or on Monday as I don't want the grains to be at the post office over the weekend. Once I have posted it, I will let you know. Joannie, I have some milk grains available. Pleas see my posting above for my e-mail address. Send me an e-mail with your address and I will send you some. Annie | About the Author Annie ultimo 12th February 2014 10:23am #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bernard says... Hello, I'm new in this forum. I've been looking for someone to supply me with Kefir grains. So far I've been using the powdered culture to make my kefir and I heard that powder starter only contains 7 strain of bacteria while the grain contain almost 30 strains. Anybody here can spare me a few kefir grains? I'll buy them of you. I live in Sydney, Western suburb. Thank you in advance! Bernard | About the Author Bernard Riverwood 26th February 2014 12:25am #UserID: 9555 Posts: 2 View All Bernard's Edible Fruit Trees |
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GillianH says... Hi Mary, Annie and Jatina, I just came across this thread while looking for a kefir "mother" in Sydney. Do any of you have any grains to spare. I'd like to try both milk and water if possible - I'm allergic to dairy, but would like to see if I manage dairy kefir. I live in Sydney. I'm not sure the post is a good idea as they might sit in the sun (in my mailbox) all day until I get home - is this a problem? Alternatively, if you aren't too far, I can collect it. I can't seem to find email addresses. How can I make contact? Thanks Gillian | About the Author GillianH Sydney 4th March 2014 8:34am #UserID: 9583 Posts: 3 View All GillianH's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Hi Gillian, I'm afraid I left my kefir in the fridge when I went away in December and have not since rescued them from there. I think I should be able to revive them but has yet to find time to tend to that. Re email: I am still receiving emails from people who obviously heard about the free kefir from friends who received them from me. I no longer respond to them, again I don't have time/energy. When I do have extra grains I will post here and if people leave their contact details here I will respond. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 4th March 2014 9:05am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annie says... Mary, Do you want me to send you some milk kefir grains? I have some available. They have been growing very well. It will probably save you time reviving yours. Let me know. Gillian, I have some milk and water kefir available. If you read my post above you should be able to find my e-mail address. Sending to Sydney shouldn't be an issue. I've sent them to SA without any issues. Annie | About the Author Annie Ultimo 4th March 2014 10:49am #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annie says... Hi All and Sephera, Due to moving house, I don't have any spare grains available right now. Both my water and milk grains are in the fridge and I won't be able to start making them again for another 2 weeks time. If you are able to wait, I'll post up here to advise when I have spare grains available. Annie | About the Author Annie Ultimo 3rd April 2014 9:30pm #UserID: 8393 Posts: 28 View All Annie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... You can get any amount of kefir grains on gumtree.com.au for a few dollars. I have finally figured out a way to keep grains at the level I need - eat them! So I am sorry but I won't have excess. Since I started this thread I have supplied free grains to countless people so will now retire. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 8th April 2014 3:05pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob10 says... Hey guys, I am living in Beacon hill Sydney and have both water and milk grains that i would be happy to share if you would like the pick them up. I have to head OS for a month but when i get back i can grow them up for you. Send me an email inhernest at live.com Otherwise if you are in the Portland Vic area my mum is always willing to share her water grains. | About the Author Rob10 PORTLAND,3305,VIC 9th April 2014 1:23pm #UserID: 3961 Posts: 24 View All Rob10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sephera says... Hi Michelle I have Kombucha scoby I can swap you for some water grains. Does anyone also have good milk Kefir grains that are slimy and have that kefiran who are in Sydney and want to swap, apparently if you add grains from different batches it can make yours better. I already have kefir grains. | About the Author Sephera Auburn 1st May 2014 1:06pm #UserID: 9736 Posts: 6 View All Sephera's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michelle says... Hi LouiseP & Diana & Seraphera. I am in Sydney. I have lots of water kefir (My strain came via Annie, then my Mother...and very healthy - abit of a prolific grower) LoiusaP I've emailed you. Diana/Seraphera please advise your email if still interested and I will make contact! Meantime here is a link to some good base recipes to brew X Michelle www.growyouthful.com/recipes/water-kefir.php Scroll down to see Recipe - How to make water kefir allhealthwellness.com.au/2014/01/23/how-to-make-water-kefir-and-coconut-milk-kefir/ | About the Author Michelle Watsons bay 1st June 2014 8:54am #UserID: 9342 Posts: 6 View All Michelle 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Justine_Balmain says... Hi,is there anyone who would be kind enough to share some spare milk and/ or water kefir grains. I live in the inner west of Sydney, have a car so happy to meet and collect at a place/ time which suits you. I am 5 days into my first continuous brew of kombucha, so will hopefully have some Scoby's to share before long too. Many thanks | About the Author Justine_Balmain Balmain, Sydney 4th June 2014 7:58am #UserID: 10029 Posts: 1 View All Justine_Balmain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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joeydy says... Hi, is there anyone who can share some spare milk kefir with me please? i live in Sutherland area and I am happy to collect in city on Saturdays if this suits you better. I can also pick up at Strathfield station on weekdays as i work at Strathfield Sth...travel through Strathfield every day and night. My email: joeydy515@yahoo.com.au thanks guys | About the Author joeydy Sutherland NSW 24th June 2014 3:50pm #UserID: 10119 Posts: 1 View All joeydy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kefirnut says... Hi there, I am very interested in kefir grains and I saw your post on https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/milk-kefir-grains/. If you still have some spare, would it be possible to pick them up. I am in Burwood, so I can do that any time suitable for you. Please email me back you we can arrange. | About the Author kefirnut burwood 9th July 2014 4:22pm #UserID: 10196 Posts: 3 View All kefirnut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kefirnut says... Hi Colette, I am very interested in kefir grains and I saw your post on https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/milk-kefir-grains/. If you still have some spare left, would it be possible to pick then up. I am in Burwood on the other end of M4, so I can do that any time suitable for you. Please email me back you we can arrange. | About the Author kefirnut burwood 9th July 2014 4:42pm #UserID: 10196 Posts: 3 View All kefirnut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kefirnut says... Hi there, I am very interested in kefir grains and I saw your post on https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/milk-kefir-grains/ . If you still have some spare left, would it be possible to pick them up. I am in Burwood, so I can do that any time suitable for you. Please email me back you we can arrange. | About the Author kefirnut burwood 9th July 2014 4:44pm #UserID: 10196 Posts: 3 View All kefirnut's Edible Fruit Trees |
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zippey says... Hi TMary, That is very kind of you. By the way, the taste changed indeed slightly: since it has been a bit warmer, the kefir isn't as yeasty tasting as before. Also, I think the grains had been a bit stressed when they were shipped to me (They seemed happier now) and I might got used to the taste a bit more. :-) I'm also happy to share my grains, but I think I need to wait a bit more because they haven't much multiplied yet. Good luck with your cheese-making task, TMary, let me know how it turned out. :-) Angela | About the Author zippey Greenwich 30th July 2014 11:23am #UserID: 10236 Posts: 6 View All zippey's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT1 says... I looked at the gumtree site today and there are many posts re milk kefir grains on offer. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them obtained the grains from me in the first place. :) I don't have a problem with that. Why not support home industries. So please try this link: http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-milk+kefir+grains/k0 | About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 31st July 2014 11:16am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BenW says... Kefir. Don't think it's for me but after reading this thread a while back, I did notice this milk bar in Gilbert St, Preston, Melbourne had it for sale. I'm not certain it wasn't a processed product but the sign certainly suggested it was home made :) The place was closing up when I went past but any interested Melbournians might want to stop by and report back. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.750686,144.988051,3a,15y,330.34h,88.92t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sLpryHYvXei0kriSBX4ZXvA!2e0 | About the Author BenW Kinglake West,3757,VIC 2nd September 2014 10:35pm #UserID: 5390 Posts: 144 View All BenW's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... The Lost Seed sells milk kefir grains ($20, seems reasonable), also Kombucha starter and a few books on fermentation. I am thinking of ordering some from them. http://www.thelostseed.com.au/kefir/ | About the Author Diana Brisbane 5th September 2014 8:14pm #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT1 says... My local woolies is selling the Systema container with a bonus strainer at half price. Less than $2.50 each. I find them excellent for making kefir milk: give it a stir, lift the strainer and 'hang' it by the clip then once drained, pour the milk off, put the strainer (with grains) back into the container and add fresh milk. It's a bit big if you're just starting with a tablespoon of grains but use it once they multiply. | About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 11th October 2014 10:52am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Loly says... Hello everyone! Hope you are doing great! I have been trying to get some milk grains nut have not been successful, I live in Sydney, I was wondering if someone had any spare ones that would like to share goth me! also tips about how to grow them or recipes would also be really appreciate it :) Thank you!! | About the Author Loly Coogee 20th April 2015 11:11pm #UserID: 11654 Posts: 1 View All Loly's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Alex Parker says... I have some grains I can share in the melbourne area (bayswater) if anyone is interested. I can post to Sydney as well. And yes, Mary you can eat the grains. I do it all the time. Here are some benefits eating the grains: https://www.yemoos.com/blogs/yemoos-blog/what-are-the-benefits-of-eating-milk-kefir-grains | About the Author Alex Parker Bayswater 20th March 2019 6:57pm #UserID: 19974 Posts: 1 View All Alex Parker's Edible Fruit Trees |
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K Crace says... Hi Joy, I have had pretty bad allergies for last couple of years and I have noticed significant improvements ever since I started taking probiotics. I am ready to start making some kefir at home. I live in crace and would love to get some milk kefir grains and get started on my first batch. Thanks | About the Author K Crace Crace 30th January 2020 1:22pm #UserID: 21552 Posts: 1 View All K Crace's Edible Fruit Trees |
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