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| About the Author chris34 Gold Coast 8th October 2012 11:34am #UserID: 7307 Posts: 1 View All chris34's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Chris, definitely only the low-chill variteties unless you're in elevated hinterland regions. Daley's sells 3 varieties (Anna, Dorsett Golden and Tropic Sweet)- these all need a X pollinator, so any 2 of above varieties. There is also Ein Shemer found in some local nurseries occasionally - the variety is self fertile, but produces better if pollinated again by one of the above varieties. Unless you have a big yard, you're better off with a dwarf tree as they get pretty big. | About the Author VF Wongawallan 10th October 2012 2:19pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author apple trees for subtropics1 Bucca 10th July 2013 3:39pm #UserID: 8094 Posts: 2 View All apple trees for subtropics1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike J says... A friend of mine is growing stone fruit at Dalrymple Heights (1000 metres above sea level) in the Mackay Hinterland. For those who have small yards and need 2 or more trees for pollination, buy the ones you need, plant the strongest looking one and leave the other in the bag. Set it up on a stand and approach graft it to the planted tree. When the graft is taken, just cut it off and give it to someone else. Then you have a single tree with the genetics of 2 varieties which will cross pollinate. Simple. You can also use this technique to grow multiple fruit on a citrus by approach grafting what ever varieties of citrus onto a single tree. | About the Author Mike J Mackay 10th July 2013 5:50pm #UserID: 8095 Posts: 6 View All Mike J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author JohnMc1 11th July 2013 4:41pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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wazzamcg says... I have 6 low chill varieties growing well in Brisbane. They are; Pinkabelle Sundowner Fuji Pink Lady Lady Williams Jonagold I bought most of them from here. http://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/woodbridgefruittrees/search?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=low+chill&submit_search=Search Good luck. Happy to pass on more information if required. | About the Author wazzamcg Brisbane 12th July 2013 12:43pm #UserID: 4149 Posts: 101 View All wazzamcg's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... wazzamcg, do you know your chill hours there in Brisbane? I have this idea that you get ever so slightly more than we do in my part of Perth (though only very slightly), but off the top of my head I can't recall what they are! I'm pleased that you have them growing well, as I've just bought a pinkabelle and sundowner. I know sundowner is mean to be low chill, but not sure on the pinkabelle. My SIL has a pink lady that fruits here, but she has to strip the leaves off as it doesn't lose them (in a warm microclimate against a brick wall). Bye MJ | About the Author 76 12th July 2013 2:56pm #UserID: 7121 Posts: 76 View All 76's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... We will be lucky to get 100 chill hours this year if things dont change soon. If you trust PlantNet Brisbane is 300-400, Perth is around 500. Perth is cooler than Brisbane. Wazzamcg, do those all fruit well here? An old guy up the road has an old apple along his fence line that looks terrible but puts out a few good looking red apples every year, just not many. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th July 2013 3:27pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... According to the Ag Department, my part of Perth gets about 375. One area does get over 500, by the looks of the link below, but the others are below. I wonder how PlantNet come up with that figure? Personally, I figure on no more than 350 hours, and buy my plants according to that. http://agspsrv34.agric.wa.gov.au/climate/clig/Climinfo/awsdata/yearchill%5CYTDchill.htm Of course, now that I'm looking for it, I can't find the site for Brisbane. I was comparing it because someone there was successfully growing a variety of raspberry and I wanted to see the chill hours to compare. I have an idea that the figure I found was very slightly more than my part of Perth (working on 350, or 375 maybe), but not a lot. I decided to try that raspberry, so fingers crossed they're similar enough to work! | About the Author 76 12th July 2013 5:54pm #UserID: 7121 Posts: 76 View All 76's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I've just amused myself looking up averages for Brisbane and Perth on BOM's website. It looks like our summer is a bit warmer, and our winter is a bit cooler than yours. Hard to tell from averages, though. You seriously win on the rain - I didn't realise you got good rain all year! Do you have to irrigate? (Sorry to the OP, I have hijacked the thread. I just find all this *so* interesting! I am obviously a frustrated meteorologist!) BJ, I wonder if it was you with the raspberries? Williamette? | About the Author 76 12th July 2013 6:05pm #UserID: 7121 Posts: 76 View All 76's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Yes, I believe plantnets figures are well off. I think we are 300ish, rather than the 400+ suggested. There are places that get much higher chill though, like out the back of mt cootha Brookfield area. I don't think I grew that raspberry. I remember growing autumn bliss and heritage, but they didn't last long in ordinary soil. I'm going to try the smoothy type in a nice raised bed this year. Fingers crossed! | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th July 2013 8:50pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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wazzamcg says... I always knew I may be a tad over the low chill requirements, but I bit the bullet and gave it a go. I'm not disappointed, in fact, I think it has been successful - I just have to manage the darn fruit fly. I would have had 60+ apples this year if I had controlled them. As you can see the plants are quite healthy and fruit readily (old photo), I wouldn't say a bumper crop either - they are only about 4yrs old trained on espalier - I will try to get a more recent photo for you. I may wait for spring though and some new growth. The Pinkabelle is a compact, spur bearing dwarf Pink Lady apple. The Sundowner is a cross between a Golden Delicious and Lady Williams, and it originated in Western Australia. The Pink Lady is a cross between a Golden Delicious and Lady Williams, and it originated in Western Australia. The Jonagold variety originated in New York State in 1968, as a cross between a Jonathan and Golden Delicious. Lady Williams are a true Australian Federation apple believed to be the daughter of Rokewood and Granny Smith both of which are famous old Australian varieties. I have experienced a little bit of woolly aphids that I need to address soon - I'm not to bothered by this. Hope this helps.
| About the Author wazzamcg Brisbane 13th July 2013 10:11am #UserID: 4149 Posts: 101 View All wazzamcg's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MJ says... I think the Sundowner is a real low chill - 100 hours, from memory. The Pink Lady originated in WA in Donnybrook, I think, which has more chill hours than I get. The official chill hours seem to be more than we get here - working on the 350/375 max as mentioned. That said, I know people who grow them in Perth. I've crossed my fingers and just hope that the Pinkabelle has identical chill hours to the PL - I couldn't find anything to the contrary. The guy in Kuffel Creek is also growing Granny Smiths, so I've put one in. Fingers crossed there, too. I've hedged my bets and also put in Anna, Dorset Gold and Tropical Beauty. They should produce even if we have a warm winter. Have any of you looked at the Kuffel Creek website? He's successfully growing apples that "shouldn't" fruit where he is. MJ | About the Author 76 13th July 2013 12:51pm #UserID: 7121 Posts: 76 View All 76's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Inahdi says... Hi MJ, I also found his "experiments" very interesting. Makes you wonder how much is what he's doing right, and how much is the apples genuinely not needing high chill. I've planted twenty varieties in Perth - in part inspired by Kuffel Creek! - and had the following set fruit: Anna, Devonshire Quarrenden, Dorset Golden, Egremont Russet, Freyberg, Lord Lambourne, Summer Strawberry and Vista Bela. The trees are only young, so hoping to get more as they mature. I estimate 350 chill hours in my area as well. | About the Author 3 14th July 2013 3:56pm #UserID: 2533 Posts: 54 View All 3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author 76 16th July 2013 10:07am #UserID: 7121 Posts: 76 View All 76's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Inahdi says... Hi MJ, I'm a pretty lazy gardener and don't usually bother! I've noticed they usually lost all the leaves eventually, but not until well into winter. There's been a big difference just this week, with the leaves finally changing colour and dropping. The trees are only a few years old and I haven't let many of them fully develop fruit yet. What I have had I've been pretty happy with. I purchased all my apples from Woodbridge Fruit Trees and been really impressed with both their customer service and the quality of the trees. Definitely worth checking out if you want some unusual apple varieties that can be posted to WA. | About the Author 3 19th July 2013 11:06pm #UserID: 2533 Posts: 54 View All 3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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