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Germinating Heartnuts

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Hi
i bought heartnut seeds off ebay
they look viable

i soaked and kept in the fridge a few weeks

does anyone have any other tips

heartnut is Juglans ailantifolia var cordiformis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juglans_ailantifolia
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speedy says...
Sounds like about the right pre-treatment for it , just going on experience with other Juglans spp.

I got my heartnut tree from a friend in Vic.
same place as my Butternuts and Jap Walnut trees.
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Charles cant spell says...
Hi Rev mine are stratifying at the moment, lets hope they grow. Assuming your source was the same as mine Amunda Kellett in S.A.
I can say that the Sea Buckthorn I got off her germinated early, one month into 3 month strat, its coming up now.

If you didn't get her notes:
Germination:
Seeds/Nuts must be stratified for 90 days in a cool, moist location, then scarified prior to sowing.
Recommended planting location is the final growing location of the tree. This tree has a very large and deep reaching tap-root.
Only grow in large containers deep containers.
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Rev says...
cheers

yes, same source

The only other i know of is recher
but he not selling seeds anymore

the place i have for it is down south
to cold for andean walnuts, perhaps too humid for Persian

so far ive planted 2 black, 2 persian, an andean. Andean from Channon markets, others from Daleys

ive also imported hickory but they didnt come up. I should try again

Pecans thrive in the same area
I like pecans, but im keen on having 2 species that are well adapted
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Charles cant spell says...
Pecans a re a beautiful low canopy tree for the larger garden 2-3 of these tress together, amazing, I just wana start planing jinseng and other stuff straight under there :)
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Rev says...
Given the allelopathy in walnuts, im not sure what pecans are like

i agree though, beautiful beautiful trees, esp on a hot day in summer.

Ive read that trees vary in susceptibiity to Juglone compounds
so ive altered planting patterns to put planst with recorded tolerance closer and plants with susceptibility further away

Mulberries for example were listed as tolerant of Juglone

heres a short list

Susceptible

Alnus sp
Asparagus
Brassica
Chestnuts
Celtis
Apples
Lucerne
Physalis
some prunus
Pears
Rhubarb
Tilia
Blueberries
European Grapes (V vinifera)

tolerant

Maples
Alliums
Asarum
asimina triloba
Carya
Cercis
Hazelnuts
Hawthorns
Saffron
Quince
Diospyros virginiana
Echinacea
Gleditsia
Jerusalem artichoke
Day lilly
Hibiscus syriacus
Mulberry
some prunus
Oaks
Elderberry
Wild rose sp
Chickweed
Dandelions
clover
Ulmus rubra
Viola
american grape (V labrusca) and wild grapes

shortened list from
Jacke D, Toensmeier E.2005. Edible Forest Gardens; Ecological design and practice for temperate climate permaculture. vol 2 : Design and practice. Chelsea green publishing Vermontp 555-556
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26th June 2010 1:30pm
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inge says...
I would like to plant some seabuckthorn too. Can you please tell me how to contact your supplier Charles can't spell?
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Violet_Cactus says...
Yamina Rare Plants sells Sea Buckthorn.
I have some of theirs growing, as well as some lovely healthy seedlings germinated from Ebay seeds.
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Charles cant spell says...
inge.
Ammunda Kellets trades as "Leaves Of The Yggdrasil"
Its Ebay based.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/50-Sea-Buckthorn-Hippophae-rhamnoides-seeds-/130398217888?pt=AU_Plants_Seeds_Bulbs

As I said my batch of seeds where 80% plus germination and went early so didnt need the stratification. The larger ones have about 5 small adult leaves now. Also the Sweet Cicerly, Macca and Woad I got off her is also germinating well so it seems like a decent place to buy from at this stage.
I got about $120 worth of seeds so truth will tell soon, most have just gone into pots in my poly tunnel.

Cheers,
Charles Otway
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blossom says...
When you have both growing can I please buy some off you :) thx ...I am in perth 2
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