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Pecan variety best for far South Coast NSW

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Hi, I'm looking to purchase a pecan as a gift for a friend's backyard orchard near Bega in a sheltered NE facing hillside microclimate. Looking for a largely self-pollinating variety which will thrive down south?
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18th April 2017 12:31pm
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Manfred says...
Don't do it. Pecans are the deepest rooting plant I know of and if you buy a potted or bagged one the roots will be circling so badly it will never recover after you plant it out. Either you will prune the root so much they will never recover or you will plant it with a tap root that goes around and around and...
Plant a seed, preferably into the ground, or into a length of 100mm vinyl pipe at least 600mm long and plant that into the ground as soon as the shoot appears. By then, the root will be poking out of the bottom. Then, if you can get a scion, graft whatever you want onto it.
I have bought named varieties before, but they never come good after all the root-pruning they need. I've also tried planting root-bound trees and getting roots from just below the ground, but they don't do it.
In the US pecans are grown from seed in seed beds and planted out for one year as "e;liners"e; in open paddocks where the grafting occurs and they are sold bare-rooted. We don't have that sort of service available here.
Buy a few pecans in a supermarket around about now and put them into a bed of leaf mulch. Keep it moist through the winter and they will emerge in spring. Don't expect pecans in a bag of mixed nuts to germinate, but fresh bulk pecans will give near 100% germination.
You will have to wait the obligatory 12 years before you get a good crop, but if you buy one, you will probably never get a nut. Remember the twelve year wait is for a crop. Sometimes you will get a few nuts from four years onwards.
Remember too, the cockatoos will probably get all the nuts anyway.
If you are offered the opportunity to get a pecan tree by digging one out, follow all the usual instructions for transplanting deciduous trees, and dig down until the tap-root flattens out (it's obvious when you are doing it). Then you can cut the root and the plant will survive. Expect that to be at least 900mm deep for a 450 tall plant.
But do it. it's worthwhile for a good pecan tree, even if the birds do get the nuts.
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Wamboin
19th April 2017 7:40pm
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ivepeters says...
Never had any problems with mine.
I got a Mahan from bunnings 12 yrs ago, now 4m tall, been nutting for the last 8. Was getting around 2 shopping bags full each year, that was before the white devils found it, five years ago. They actively prune the branches keeping it compact and now down to half a shopping bag of nuts.
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CARINDALE,4152,QLD
20th April 2017 7:42am
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Manfred says...
What were the roots like when you planted it? Did you prune them or put them in as they were?
How deep is the soil where you are?
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ivepeters says...
Did the standard thing, made hole twice the size of plant pot, added mushroom compost to bottom, teased as many roots out, seasol watered, left to grow.
Soil is fairly good, not the best, but it does have good drainage.
Use blood&bone & dynamic lifter, alternatively.
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23rd April 2017 4:34pm
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