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allybanana starts with ...
My friend Michelle has been telling me about a dried black variety of jujube. Wiki says it is a smoked treated red jujube others say its a different variety to the red.

Last winter I bought three bare rooted trees from jujube for sale, Suimen, Chico and Li, are these red or black?

The trees were purchased small but the roots were large and healthy and they have grown a continuous growth flush since breaking dormancy. They are flowering profusely, but i plan to remove all fruit in the first year.
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allybanana
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi allybanana,

According to a book written in Chinese language published in China about Chinese date/jujube, Wiki is correct. There is no such thing as black jujube. All the ones you have are red ones. I am very glad yours are doing well. some of mine have grown extra branches about 1 meter tall since breaking dormancy in mid October.
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J says...
Hi Jujube4Sale, hope you are well. My Li that I got off you has shot up, it's almost a meter tall and flowering, however the Chico hasn't done much. It is barely 10 cm or so tall, has some small branches and a few flowers seem to be forming. It looks healthy, but it's not growing as much as the li (and my other lang) Could this because this variety needs more heat than we've had this summer? Should I pluck off the flowers so it can concentrate on growing some more? Any tips?

Btw that Lime recipe you sent me worked and the west indian lime pickle turned out delicious! Thanks for the limes & the recipe! :)
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allybanana says...
Interesting point J I wonder if people experience the same trend in warmer climates. My Li is the fastest growing as well, bolting up like in the picture above. The chico and suimen are slower growing with continuous lateral growth but are just starting to bolt now. I am not that fussed though so long as they are moving and healthy, as I donít have room for monster trees.

My friend just gave me some dried jujube she bought in china town it has no added sugar and tastes great, it is a longish not round fruit, I hope my suimen will dry this good.

Jujube for Sale the bitter melon seeds you sent up for Michelle are growing well, the family has been struggling to find viable seed since leaving rural China 20 years ago.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi J and Allybanana,

I hope you all very well too.

These trees all love summer heat so it could be that your Li has more sun than the chico because the tree in the picture is a Chico, planted September 2009, gave me 8 fruits last year, last year it grown only 30 cm and I took the picture 1 month ago and it is much taller now.

All my newly planted in August 2010 have grown between 30cm to 50 cm. Not to worry as Allybanana said as long as it is moving and healthy.

If the tree is in flowering mode then it won't grow so it is better to remove all the flowers (unless you are desperate to try some) and give it some blood and bone and water. Since this year I have given my trees some RICHO brand completed minerals available in garden store in a cylinder container and will do so once a year in Spring. I think it may help.

Please note that they grow then stop, fruit set and grow again later in the season. The tree in the picture has not set fruits yet this year because it is too busy to grow tall. I give mine some dynamic lifter every 2 months in growing season.

Allybanana I think the fruit you taste could be suimen or tiger tooth if it looks like a chili. I love them fresh or dried but I only tasted the dried ones last year when we had the big storm in March where I lost 80% of my fruits and some green fruits fell and I did not collect them until 2 weeks later and those were dried up, I did not expect them to taste nice but they were nice and sweet.

I am glad the bitter melon I sent you work well.

J: I am glad the recipe and the lime from my garden work well for you. If I have some more this year then You will have them. Not much flowers this year but may be later. My red pepino is doing well, it has about a dozen leaves and very healthy. Thanks for that.

Happy growing.
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J says...
Hi Jujube

The chico actually has more sunlight than the li, but I have not given any of my jububes any additional fertiliser since planting back in August.
When I met you last you mentioned giving the jujubes extra fertiliser might be over kill, so I didn't risk it. Maybe The chico just needs some more food. Will give it some shortly. Like I said, the Chico looks healthy, its just very small in comparison to then growth the LI has had.

Jujube, Thanks for your offer for more limes, I was so impressed by your garden and the West Indian Lime tree you have that I ended up buying two west Indian limes trees of my own. Both are flowering now (flowered twice this season) and I'm busy removing flowers but they keep coming back! Either way I hope they do well here in the hills. Time will tell.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi J,

Sorry to confuse you but what I mean was when you first plant bare rooted tree no fertiliser until at least December, a bit as the time and as top dressing only.

From the second year onward, every 2 months from November. Anyway, it is not to late to feed the trees.

Good luck to the lime trees.
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J says...
Jujube thanks for the info, I will fertilise them shortly.

In regards to the West Indian lime, did you protect yours from cold/frosts for the first few years or was it pretty cold tolerant?
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi J,

The first 5 years, lots of fruits set but dropped very young and the tree suffered lots because winter was much colder than we have now. I did not protect it at all, I think the tree got used to the weather after those years.It started to take off when I mulched heavily and fruits are getting much bigger now a day. If I was you I would give it some dynamic lifter to speed up the growing process.
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Andy says...
Hi J,

I have 2 jujube's from Jujube for Sale planted this year. My chico has slightly outgrown my li, although my li didn't break dormancy until a month and a half after my chico so it had a fair head start. They are about a metre tall and flowing profusely. They both have pretty much identical positions.

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J says...
Will do, Jujube.

Andy, my li and chico are about two metres apart and have the same amount of light (upwey is a few degrees colder than melbourne tho) and same quality of soil, so I'm either doing something wrong (not enough fertiliser for example) or the plant was a dud or is a year behind. It happens and I've got patience. I'll be getting crops from my Li and Lang this year so I'm not going to be wanting for Jujubes. Wish me luck.
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J says...
update of my chico: pruned all the flowers off, added some blood and bone, plenty of water and its about ten cm bigger and popping out new branches. Good news!
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi J,

I am glad that your chico jujube is doing well.
I forgot to add that Li variety tree tends to grow tall but the chico variety tree seems to be more sort of Bushy type.
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Michael says...
All my jujube were infested with fruit flies this year .
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Anonymous says...
query: are chico jujube's thorny? How thorny are they compared to Li?

thanks!
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y3yrr says...
No, none of the jujubes make you horny.
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