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Van starts with ... Hi, I am new to fruit tree planting and would love some advice. I would like to grow some trees - orange, mandarin, apple - along my back timber fence and espalier them. Would it make a difference if I chose dwarf trees or not? Also, if I plant them close to the fence and then decide to build a retaining wall would I then be able to fill the wall with soil or not? Or... could I plant in pots and still espalier against the fence? If anyone has any photos of their trees/garden with espaliered trees I would love to see some if you would like to share! | About the Author Van1 9th June 2009 3:55pm #UserID: 2424 Posts: 7 View All Van1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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peter says... van, have a look at www.rarefruit-sa.org.au hit the espalier tab go to the bottom of page and hit espaliered trees tab | About the Author adelaide 9th June 2009 6:06pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi van - I was thinking that you could grow in pots and still fill later - maybe get pots that u are prepared to smash tho' and then fill around to what was the top of the pot level..does this make sense?! Getting them out of the pots would be pretty difficult if plant is espaliered? If you have to leave in pots - what about a pot with no bottom - then the roots could have access to the soil below - making management a bit easier? | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 10th June 2009 11:01am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author JohnI Melton 10th June 2009 12:11pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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russ says... Hi, I am espaliering citrus along my back fence in a 'belgium fence' design. I will post photo's this evening if i have time. As far as i am aware there is no reason you cannot use dwarf trees. Regarding growing in pots, I grew two trees in pots as a wasn't in a position to remove the shed which stood where they were to be planted. I held off espaliering them until i had planted out and shed was gone. | About the Author Russ Perth NOR 10th June 2009 2:52pm #UserID: 1968 Posts: 56 View All Russ's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Van says... That would be great, thanks for the ideas also. I found this site, I love the pictures of the work this particular lady has done so I just thought I would share. http://www.espalierservices.com/ | About the Author Van1 Melbourne 10th June 2009 6:13pm #UserID: 2424 Posts: 7 View All Van1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Hi Van, I also have a small backyard and similar to yourself wanted some fruit trees along the fenceline. I started with a Nectazee (Dwarf Nectarine). This I have found to be too slow growing and have since just purchased standard plants and trained them laterally. Here are some photos of my 2 apple trees. Anna and Golden Dorset. I have just trimmed off anything growing towards or away from the fence and they have settled nicely at fence height. Not necassarily espaliering but i am wieghting down some lateral branches. In the fruiting photos they are in their third season. A few flowers just after purchasing, a year later a few small apples, and summer just gone a nice crop of small/medium sized apples.
| About the Author Jason1 Perth 24th June 2009 10:23pm #UserID: 2491 Posts: 111 View All Jason1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Eric1 Melbourne 8th July 2009 2:02pm #UserID: 2534 Posts: 1 View All Eric1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Dekka Newcastle 28th July 2009 1:42pm #UserID: 102 Posts: 219 View All Dekka's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Great pic Dekka..it defies imagination and the time and patience to make something like that! A bit like some of the really amazing bonsai that the Japanese do so well...my sister in law (japanese) tells me that the bonsai trees are often handed down thru' the generations..what a special heirloom. (trying it myself - it's really hard :/ | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 28th July 2009 9:17pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Brad2 Perth 25th October 2009 12:03pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... This is just my personal opinion, but I feel WA gets a bit too hot in summer for espaliered trees, especially near a fence or wall - a lot of reflected heat. Apart from space saving, I think the espalier system was also intended to expose the fruit to as much sun as possible. Here we have the opposite problem. I mentioned somewhere else that some local orchardists have started using Surround,a kaolin clay-based spray, to protect fruit from sunburn. Just my thoughts. | About the Author Roleystone WA 25th October 2009 6:49pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi, I am a bit confused about whether an apple espalier will work well if it is not dwarfing rootstock. Jason's Golden Dorset does not seem to be a dwarf (?) and looks great. The amazingly successful trees on the SA rare fruit society web page are not dwarf varieties by the look of it. On the other hand the information booklet from woodbridge fruit trees specifically says the technique is not for you if you have big tree rootstock, e.g. a standard Granny Smith. I have just got a Golden Dorset to espalier, then I noticed after I bought it that it has Granny Smith rootstock (should have checked before!). Will this work or have I done the wrong thing and I should move it to a more spacious spot? Thanks very much and happy new year. Diana.
| About the Author Diana Brisbane 2nd January 2010 11:26am #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Damo says... Non dwarf trees means more pruning to keep on the chosen espalier path. Some people like that as they fill the trellis fast eg my espaliered plum is 2m tall in only half its first growing season. My M26 gala dwarf is only 500mm high in the same time on the same trellis. I espalier trees 2 foot from the fence. | About the Author Damo 2nd January 2010 11:30am #UserID: 2803 Posts: 77 View All Damo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Diana Brisbane 2nd January 2010 11:38am #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi a, Yes, I have clay soil, so I dug in compost and gypsum and put about a quarter of the root ball in a hole below ground level, then made a mound of soil mixed with compost around the rest. The blocks will stop the soil washing away until the roots have grown and stabilized it, and I hope they will slow down the grass. All of my trees are planted on mounds for drainage, because of the clay. I haven't lost any to root rot so far. Thanks, Diana. | About the Author Diana Brisbane 3rd January 2010 6:02pm #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sam Raslan says... Do you have espalier with Urika lemon, West Indian lime, Japanese seedless mandarin? Please let me know what you have in citrus fruit that will span out. Your recommendations and suggestions will be appreciative. Even if I purchase the trees that are suitable for espalier and I can train them. Can you also indicate pricing and do you deliver to Adelaide. Regards Sam Raslan Phone 0421 333 866 | About the Author Sam Raslan Wattle Park SA 13th February 2015 3:28pm #UserID: 11280 Posts: 2 View All Sam Raslan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sam Raslan says... Do you have espalier with Urika lemon, West Indian lime, Japanese seedless mandarin? Please let me know what you have in citrus fruit that will span out. Your recommendations and suggestions will be appreciative. Even if I purchase the trees that are suitable for espalier and I can train them. Can you also indicate pricing and do you deliver to Adelaide. Regards Sam Raslan Phone 0421 333 866 | About the Author Sam Raslan Wattle Park SA 13th February 2015 3:28pm #UserID: 11280 Posts: 2 View All Sam Raslan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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