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_Matthew starts with ... Will I have success with Williams and Beurre Bosc in Engadine, Sydney.	About the Author _Matthew Engadine 20th November 2019 6:36pm #UserID: 21257 Posts: 1 View All _Matthew's Edible Fruit Trees
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Pauline Staff of Daley's Nursery says... You may need some local expertise to help you with that, I would say that being close to the coast and in the middle of an urban heat sink that it may not get cold enough for long enough. But that can change if you have an overcast winter for example. This can keep the temps down for long enough to trigger flowering.	About the Author Pauline Staff of Daley's Nursery Kyogle 9th December 2019 2:29pm #UserID: 19813 Posts: 87 View All Pauline Staff of Daley's Nursery's Edible Fruit Trees
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brad16 says... Hi Matthew, If my memory serves me correctly, Engadine is out Camden way right? I think it's far enough from the coast, and being SW from the hub of things, I'd also guess that you're just outside the main metro heatsink, but I don't know your particular area. Do a Web search of 'Hortus Camdenensis'. William McArthur setup a decent market garden containing fruit trees such as apples and pears in Camden back in Australia's colonial days. I have a few pear varieties (including Williams and Beurre Bosc) on the Central Coast that I was planning to plant out at another property. They are too immature to have fruited, but they did go into dormancy over winter and broke dormancy last month. My winter temps would be warmer here than Engadine. I am coastal with a lot of surrounding water, including lakes. My temperatures here are very moderate for the area. My winter and night minimums don't go down as low as areas even a couple of kilometers further west. I had pears that produced fruit in Northern NSW (not coastal, elevation between 300 - 400 m). Summers hot, winters around the same as the Central Coast but a few degrees cooler in the early hours of the morning. One other thing is the old adage about pears: 'Plant pears for your heirs' They can take a long time to produce a reliable crop. My suggestion would be to consider something else if you have limited space and expect reliability from it. I think if you have a certain area that you really want pears from, you are not going to get frustrated and pull the trees out when you loose interest and are prepared to accept times when the trees produce more shade than pears, then I'd personally go ahead and plant your Williams and Beurre Bosc. How far are you from Camden Park? McArthur grew them there.	About the Author brad16 GOROKAN,2263,NSW 17th December 2019 5:13pm #UserID: 14079 Posts: 175 View All brad16's Edible Fruit Trees
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Hi Matthew,

If my memory serves me correctly, Engadine is out Camden way right?

I think it's far enough from the coast, and being SW from the hub of things, I'd also guess that you're just outside the main metro heatsink, but I don't know your particular area.

Do a Web search of 'Hortus Camdenensis'. William McArthur setup a decent market garden containing fruit trees such as apples and pears in Camden back in Australia's colonial days.

I have a few pear varieties (including Williams and Beurre Bosc) on the Central Coast that I was planning to plant out at another property. They are too immature to have fruited, but they did go into dormancy over winter and broke dormancy last month. My winter temps would be warmer here than Engadine. I am coastal with a lot of surrounding water, including lakes. My temperatures here are very moderate for the area. My winter and night minimums don't go down as low as areas even a couple of kilometers further west.

I had pears that produced fruit in Northern NSW (not coastal, elevation between 300 - 400 m). Summers hot, winters around the same as the Central Coast but a few degrees cooler in the early hours of the morning.

One other thing is the old adage about pears:

'Plant pears for your heirs'

They can take a long time to produce a reliable crop. My suggestion would be to consider something else if you have limited space and expect reliability from it.

I think if you have a certain area that you really want pears from, you are not going to get frustrated and pull the trees out when you loose interest and are prepared to accept times when the trees produce more shade than pears, then I'd personally go ahead and plant your Williams and Beurre Bosc.

How far are you from Camden Park? McArthur grew them there.

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