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Abelmoschus manihot Linn

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AL starts with ...
Hi,
Anyone know where to get this in Sydney NSW? It's a member of the hibiscus family and leaves, buds and roots a very nutritious.

Also known as BELE in the Pacific Islands.
See the picture, incase it "rings a bell".

Thanks....
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trikus says...
I have this growing , or a very similar species . The mature leaf is more palmate on mine .. It is flowering now , so some seeds may be available . But it is usually propagated by cuttings . Mature leaves are very hairy and not good to eat unless cooked very well . Tiny new tips are best , and harvesting these make for a more bushy plant with more tips available.
Late for work or I would go out and take a picture .. Will post one om Monday . Thisa is a very interting family of perrenial edibles with a few spp. involved.
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AL says...
Thanks for the info, where is this available in Sydney ?
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Kath says...
Hi Trikus, do you recognise this species? I am wondering if it may be Abelmoschus moschatus.
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trikus says...
Mine is flowering also , and looks very much like yours Kath .. but this one is not the best eating ,its very prickly , and only the tiny tips are edible raw , older leaves must be cooked very well . There are many different types of these . The better ones are smooth and dark green and easily eaten raw . Will try and get some good pics tomorrow
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trikus says...
Very little information about these plants online ,, I am thinking mine might be the cannabis foliage form ,, I know the police gave me a dirty look as they drove past one day ,, [it is growing right near the road in my front yard] It is horrible eating , I am hoping to get a better tasting species soon . It may set seed as it is covered in flowers ,, loking at the different species on wikipedia , they all seem the same !
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trikus says...
View from the road of the shrub , right next to my Malay Apple .. that has grown from a 50 cm seedling to this near 4m monster in less than 2 years .
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Anonymous says...
Did you find the bele tree?

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shalen says...
hi i want to grow this plant. can anyone give me information where to buy this plant
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trikus says...
Seeds & cuttings from this plant avail. on ebay .
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Diana says...
Hi all,

I have been in the rural Solomon Islands a couple of weeks ago. All of the leafy vegetables we ate there were really tasty (and all the food was). I think sliperi kabis is supposed to be Abelmoschus manihot, but it was much nicer there than the variety I have at home, sourced from northey st city farm nursery I think (aibika- which is still quite OK). Also it looked different there- red stems, narrow leaves and bushy habit, not like mine with a tall tree-like habit, light brown stem and large heart shaped leaves (pictures next to a guava, and next to pineapples where people are drying washing). Does anyone know if the Solomons one is actually Abelmoschus manihot, and is there any choice of varieties in Australia?

The other thing I wondered about is- what is the light green marrow-like thing between the betel nut and the red cooking bananas at the market? Locally it is called a bean. It may be a bean the same way that new guinea bean is (a marrow that tastes a bit like bean), but again, it was delicious, unlike new guinea bean I have tasted here which was bitter. I think the plant growing on the trellis is one (it seems to be growing in pure coral rubble- see the beach immediately behind).

The picture of a traditional dinner we had is sliced bean cooked with egg in one dish, sliperi kabis cooked in ngali nut sauce in one (yum!), and some rice (not traditional) and sweet potato.

I realise this forum may not have this sort of information but you never know- some of you out there are amazingly knowledgable.

Diana.
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Chillilower says...
Just wanted to say that bele leaves are not prickly and not hairy. They are dark green and smooth.

Very very delicious. When cooked it is very slimy. I usually add it to stews in the final stage. It is eaten cooked. I have tried it raw but never liked it.
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Diana says...
Hi Chillilower,

Does the plant you know as bele (the same as sliperi kabis I think) look like the one with red stems in pictures 4 and 5?

I agree it is very tasty.

Diana
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Chillilower says...
Have a look at these pics. I have never seen one flower. That's maybe because we cut the leaves off regularly and the plant isn't allowed to flower.

http://www.fijitimes.com/images/artpics/218548.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/articles/303916/photo21.html

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2013-12-07-BeleEdibleHibiscus-thumb.jpg

The one my parents have is not purple. Has green stems all the way through.
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BJ says...
Maybe talk to Arno?
He did an article on them for STG magazine a little while ago that mentioned a few types. I'd imagine all of them would be here amongst the Vanuatuan and Solomon communities. You'd need a link to those communities or ask around at Rusty's in Cairns. Grahame Jackson from PestNet might know something as might other folks who work with Pacific Island crops and pest management...
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Diana says...
Hi BJ,

Thanks. What does the acronym STG stand for? I will look for the magazine article. I have some of these contacts including the Pacific Island crop pest research, I will ask when I see them.

Who is Arno?
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BJ says...
Sub tropical gardening magazine. They have a bibliography on their website, so you can look upbthr relevant issue.
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Diana says...
Thanks BJ
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