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Grafting Frangipnni (Plumeria) Trees

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Shaun starts with ...
Does anyone know how to graft Frangipnni (Plumeria) Trees ?
They have the milky sticky sap, and seems to be very tricky to graft.
I had seen a grafted Frangipnni Tree in Thailand, where one half bears red flowers, and the other half bears white flowers.
So, I am very curious to experiment.
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Brad says...
Interesting! Never seen it and don't have any expertise. They strike cuttings really easily, generally after allowing the wound to dry off first.

I wonder and woundn't be surprised if you can just bung a wedged cutting into a branch.

Hopefully someone can be more scientific but let us know how you go
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19th June 2010 7:12pm
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Steven says...
I remember seeing somethere, i cant remember where, were they cut the tip off an old dried out branch, drilled a tight hole and then inserted the cutting into the hole. they then just taped it up to keep the moisture in.

Maybe try youtube.
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19th June 2010 9:42pm
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Speedy says...
Yeah I've done them.

whip and tounge, whip graft or wedge graft.
I think it was early spring (Aug sept) same time as for cuttings.
I used teflon thread tape
(that's all I had at the time) and for some, I used jute twine ( maybe wax as well?...cant remember).
both twine and th tape worked.
longditudunally slice into the scion to relieve sap pressure, wait for a half hour or so then graft.
keep the graft union dry or it can rot.
should be easy for you to do multigraft (multicoloured plumeria tree)
or topwork a sturdy or 'aged' rootstock/established plant to a different colour.

I like to prune them to gnarled, contorted shapes for character, like 'giant bonsai'.
cutting the stems and trunks of the planted trees and letting them heal will artificially 'age' the trees adding to the effect.
good luck.
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Shaun says...
Thanks for the tips, Speedy.

It is the sticky sap that worries me.
If it is not done correctly, the graft may not take off.
Have you got to clean of the dried sap of the scion and the 'rootstock' before tying up the graft?
Or you did you leave the dried sap on the scion & 'rootstock'?
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speedy says...
When you cut it the first time it will relieve the sap pressure.
For the rootstock, make some long, slightly diagonal or longditudinal cuts after taking the tip off.
Then when you cut it again just before marrying the scion and rootstock there wont be nearly as much sap to spoil the graft.
then it's just a matter of working quickly and cleanly.
You wont avoid all sap, but a bit of it wont hurt.
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Shaun says...
Thanks speedy.
As it is now winter, when is the best time to attempt any grafting of Frangipani?
I know Frangipani trees will survive winter in most capital cities of Australia, but isn't Frangipani a tropical plant?
They grow really well in Darwin and the warm northern towns of Australia.
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vickie says...
Hi all
There ia a multi grafted franigpani, in townsville North Queensland, on the corner of kings road and fulham road, it was blowen over from cyclone Yasi but has been replanted by the local council
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Pauline says...
Wow, I would never have thought about doing this...... might have to give it a go now. :)
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Pauline says...
Wow, I would never have thought about doing this...... might have to give it a go now. :)
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speedy says...
Around August is generally considered the best time for cuttings, just before they leaf out.
that should be a good time to graft also, or just a bit before then,
though I seem to remember having also done it while in leaf early in the season.
long time ago...
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John Mc says...
Never thought about grafting a frangpiani, what an excellent idea. Can't wait for end of winter. I've got a nice ordinary yellow one in the yard and a bright mainly red with some orange up the back yard. They would look absolutely spectacular flowering on the same tree. Wonder why I've never seen a multi grafted frangipani before now?
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gimme says...
Bump. I thought I would share some photo of frangipani grafting. I just do a whip and use a nail to hold it in place then wrap as tight as possible with grafting tape. Usually I have a smaller face on the cuts and do it in spring but I am experimenting with some summer grafts at the moment
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kat says...
is this grafted.. how is there 2 colours in one plant.. its first time its flowered
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gimme says...
No it isn't. The petals fade from pink to White and the throat stays yellow
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Anthony says...
No, this isn't a grafted plant. This would generally be known as a tri-colour or fruit salad(little bit of everything). Grafted plants won't have different coloured flowers on the same flower spike. Different coloured flowers will appear on seperate flower spikes usually on seperate areas of the tree and the graft should be a very obvious scar on the lower part of one of the original branches. Grafting frangipani's is really very simple as long as the branch/stem diameter is similar. Cut the graft so they fit together well and tape them up. I use a V shaped graft and it works every time. If you can "help" the graft pull tightly together at the join it will heal quicker.
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denise1 says...
When I graft plants that have copious sap or latex, I put the freshly cut scions directly into water and let the sap bleed right out until clean and this usually takes 3 to 5 minutes. Also with the sliced rootstock I keep flushing it with clean water until no sap is leaking. I do it mainly with papaya and lucuma.
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Gloriajeane says...
When grafting, you get a sharp blade/knife (make sure both parts being grafted are same size. Angle cut each graft same size you must attach both with the sap (dont wash sap off) if you can have someone help you. As soon as you have cut them place them together (wear clothes sap is not good for skin). hold firmly together and using 25mm embossed grafting tape (get from garden shops) start tape 1" inch above top of graft then overlapping all the way down the grafting to one 1" below graft, then go back overlapping tape at least 4-5 times. You must not allow any water to get into the grafting. After 12 weeks, I leave mine longer to be sure you may may remove the tape. Oh strip the leaves off the graft, so when you get new leaves, you know it worked. hope this helps. Repeat, people are telling you to wipe off the sap, sap is what you need to graft. The idea of grafting is to graft a different colour onto existing franganpani.

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