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Can indian jujube (Ziziphus/Zizyphus mauritiana) or regular jujube grow in a container that is put outdoors in summer and kept indoors in winter?

Time: 14th May 2008 11:05am

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aNON says...
Summer in nthen USA would not be hot enough. Has a heat requiemetn of 2000 hrs.

Time: 14th May 2008 3:25pm

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Tran says...
For Indian jujube you need tropical heat to grow but with Chinese jujube you can grow in cool weather.

Time: 15th May 2008 9:10am

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Frank says...
I live in sydney and have been given a jujube tree i wonder how long will it take to start to fruit i have had it in a pot for three years and i see buds on the tree every year but i than see them fall of what am i doing wrong

Time: 6th February 2009 8:16am

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Tran says...
Hi Frank,

Just give it some water every now and then and also some potassium or slow release fetilizer and see if flowers will set fruit.

Good luck.

Time: 7th February 2009 7:15am

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frank says...
HI TRAN
THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONCE DO THESE TREE NOT NEED A LOT OF WATERING, IS THAT WHY MAYBE THAT IT DOES NOT ROUND THE FRUIT

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Time: 9th February 2009 8:19am

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Tran says...
Hi Frank,

Water your tree 2 or 3 times a week and some fertiliser and see if things improve.

All the best.

Tran

Time: 9th February 2009 8:29am

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Jantina says...
Don't give up Frank, my jujube dropped all it's flowers the first few years but this year, voila ! fruit.

Time: 9th February 2009 9:48am

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Damian says...
Apart from Perry's nursery are there any other sources of chinese jujube trees? Diggers seem to be an unreliable source as they keep pushing back the eta of jujube availability.

Any suggestions?

Time: 9th February 2009 10:37am

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Jantina says...
Tass 1 in W.A. sells them but I have asked and he does'nt sell stuff out of the state. We are a small nursery so now I am trying to get some from his supplier but I don't have an answer yet.When I find out I will post the answer.

Time: 9th February 2009 12:15pm

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frank says...
HI all
I wonder if anybody knows what is the rootstock that they use to graft jujubes because i didnt know that they grafted them because were i come from in the Meditterenian we use to get sukkers from the roots of the tree.

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Time: 16th February 2009 7:30am

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Jantina says...
Frank my grafted jujube has suckered this year and they have flowers on them the same as the grafted part so I'm waiting to see what sort of fruit they set before I cut them off.Certainly my understanding was always that they graft jujube to jujube. I still don't know if I can get jujubes from W.A.

Time: 16th February 2009 9:19am

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Frank says...
Hi Jantina
I wonder what would the purpose be to use the same tree for rootstock i thought that they use a stroger rootstock like for pears they use quinches and for stone fruit they use sweet almonds, and is perry`s the only supplier of the jujube fruit tree because this monththey are cloced for the whole month and i am waiting for a reply you would think that this fruit tree would be abbundant in the north of the great county of our thank you Jantina.

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Time: 17th February 2009 6:26am

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Adam says...
Well the Indian jujube ("Chinee apple") is a noxious weed in Qld, so they are no that uncommon.

Time: 17th February 2009 7:44am

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Frank says...
Hi Adam
I wonder if the indian jujube( Chinese apple) is the same as the chinese date which is also a jujube tree.



Time: 17th February 2009 8:09am

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Adam says...
Both are jujube, just different species of the same genus ((Indian)Ziziphus mauritiana, (Chinese)Ziziphus jujuba).

Both most likely end up as the "red dates" you can buy in Chinese grocers.

The Indian Jubube is actually found from Southern China to India, so the common names don't mean that much. In terms of gardening they have different heat tolerances, so in Southern states the Chinese jujube is a better idea.

The first time I ate one was in southern Spain, where they are also grown and they are relatively common throughout the Middle East.

Time: 17th February 2009 8:24am

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Jantina says...
Hi Frank, Zizyphus jujuba is is known as the Chinese date because it is so widely grown in China. It is the jujube of choice for those with a suitable climate because the "date" is of superior quality to the rest of the family. The Chinese date does not apparently fruit well where it is wet and humid (although it grows well)ant Indian jujube is more suitable there. All my research says the jujube if grafted ,is grafted to jujube either sucker or seedling, the purpose being to get a known quality. Apricots for instance are grafted to seedling apricot trees too, using other rootstock, if compatible, on say ,citrus is to make it more suitable for certain soils or to dwarf it or make it hardier. The jujube it plenty hardy and will grow in almost any soil. Louis Glowinski says Chico , the variety I have does not sucker but that might be if it is cutting grown (apparently difficult but possible). My Chico is grafted and I don't know what variety or seedling it is grafted to. As for supply, Perrys in S.A. is the only one that I have been able to track down that have accessible stock although it can be a long wait, I have a Li on order and they told me it would be a years wait. Tass 1 in W.A. has them but he told me he does not export interstate and so far I have not been able to ascertain whether his supplier exports interstate or if in fact his supplier is over in this side of the world and in fact exports to him but I am determined to find out. It's all very frustrating.Onward ho!.

Time: 17th February 2009 10:06am

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Frank says...
Hi
Thanks Janita and Adam
So the grafted jujube do they grow with spikes or are they spike free.

Thanks
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Time: 17th February 2009 10:15am

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Jantina says...
Apparently varies between varieties and grafted supposedly less thorny. My Chico only has little thorns.

Time: 17th February 2009 10:19am

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Santalum says...
HELP! Desparately seeking to buy Chinese Date trees in Western Australia. Am wanting to trial them as a host for my Australian sandalwood www.australianuts.com). I see there is mention of a fellow/lady called Tass1 who is selling. Any guidance here would be most appreciated. Thanks Aaron

Time: 10th March 2009 1:52pm

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Jantina says...
Hi Santalum, email joe@tass1trees.com.au he may not have any in stock at the moment but he told me he has a big order coming in for winter. Good luck to you I'm certainly not having any luck over here.

Time: 10th March 2009 2:55pm

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Santalum says...
Thanks folks. Much appreciated. Happy self sufficiency :)

Time: 11th March 2009 1:28am

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Ellen says...
too bad Daleys don't have them :-(

Time: 5th April 2009 9:03am

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Julie says...
I don't know how Tass1 is selling them, as both Z.Mauritania and jujuba are considered weeds in WA.

Phoenix Seeds sells Z.jujuba, but not to WA.

Time: 17th July 2009 7:07pm

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Jimmy says...
or try Jim Dawson in Gidgegannup.

Time: 20th July 2009 12:38pm

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sam says...
hey ,, i just need 10 leaves of jujuba plant ..i am not sure where i can find the plant.. please could u guide me the nursery or can u give me 10 leaves

Time: 11th August 2010 10:14am

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Jantina says...
Wrong time of year sam, they are still dormant = no leaves yet.

Time: 11th August 2010 11:12am

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Wenny says...
Hi,Frank, could you give me your jujube tree cutting to me? I would like to grow jujube tree.please sned email to me if you agree. Thanks.

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Time: 27th April 2011 9:49pm

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Chikko says...
HI PEOPLE
I HAVE TWO JUJUBE TREES ONE INDIAN AND THE OTHERONE I BOUGHT FROM SOMEONE IN VICTORIA THE INDIAN HAS SPIKES AND IS ABOUT FOUR YEARS OLD AND THEY BOTH FLOWER A LOT AND THEIR FRUIT DRY UP AND FALL THIS YEAR THE ONE I BOUGHT IN VICTORIA JUST HUNG ON TO JUST TWO FRUITS FROM THE WHOLE TREE THEY SRE BOTH ABOUT A METER HIGH AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR IN THE GROUND I DONT KNOW IF I PLANTED THEM IN THE RIGHT POSITION THEY GET QUITE A BIT OF MIDDAY SUN NOT MUCH MORNING AND VERY LITTLE AFTERNOON SUN CAN SOMEONE HELP THANK YOU

Time: 17th January 2012 8:40am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Chikko,

Red Chinese date or Jujube trees like FULL SUN, during growing/flowering season
- feeding with dynamic lifter or blood and bone every 6 weeks, a bit at the time.
- potash felilizer TWICE a year (OCTOBER AND APRIL)
- Richo complete mineral ONCE A YEAR
and water during flowering time.

Last but not least MULCH heavily.

If yours does not produce well, I would wait to winter (the only time) to move to another sunny location.

Please note that for a young tree, I would not worry too much about fruiting for now because bare root trees need to build more roots, therefore stronger tree and lots of fruits to follow.

I would give it a chance this year because it is a bit early to tell My trees are still setting fruits at the moment.



I hope this helps.


Time: 17th January 2012 11:06am

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chico says...
Thank you i might just do what you said and wait till winter and move to a sunnier place although this tre gets sun from about 8am till 4pm what do you think and is this you lucy thank you.

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Time: 18th January 2012 8:10am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Chico,

I had a tree that did not well in semi sun and I moved to a full sun area and it is doing very well now.

Please note that jujube trees should not be grown near big tree or grow anything undernearth the tree or they won't fruit well due to not enough sun or food to share.

I think the first year or two. They may not fruit properly (too busy to produce more roots or branches) then they will fruit well in the third year.

Here is my LI variety. It has 10 fruits in 20cm branch and still setting more fruits. One for each leaf node so it is as good as a CHANG variety.

There is no secret I just follow the above steps I mentioned earlier. BTW, they don't like chemical fertilizer, I use aged chicken manure.

Take care and goodluck.

Lucy.

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Time: 5th February 2012 9:20am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Lucy are they in your Melbourne garden or up in the Tropics?

Time: 5th February 2012 10:39am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Phil,

How are you?

These jujube trees are grown in Melbourne.

Lucy.

Time: 5th February 2012 12:44pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
K - they look almost as big as Granny Smith Apples

Time: 5th February 2012 1:10pm

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Linton says...
Fruit coming on Jujubes!

These are the first fruits on a Li Jujube plant I got from Lucy 6 months ago. Very happy with the result but how do I tell when they're ripe?
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Time: 13th February 2013 11:12am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

Well done!

You pick the jujube fruits when half of the fruits become brown-red or fully brown-red. I think yours will be ready around mid March.

Good luck

Lucy.

Time: 13th February 2013 2:08pm

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Anika says...
Hi there,

Does anyone have a jujube tree in Sydney ? Does anyone know of any jujube ziziphus tree anywhere in Australia ? Please let me know. I am doing a research on this plant and discovered many beneficial properties.

Please let me know where these plants are located in Sydney or Canberra.

Thank you.

Does

Time: 15th March 2014 5:39pm

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Frank8 says...
I have two fruiting trees one small fruit and one larger and I live in sydney.

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Time: 23rd March 2014 3:22pm

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TMary says...
Anika my Li jujube was delivered bare rooted this winter and it is covered in flowers.
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Time: 27th October 2014 12:08pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Yes, I saw about 6 Jujube plants at Canley Vale Nursery last weekend for $88 each. From memory there were two varieties, can't remember what they were. You can always ring them I suppose.

Time: 27th October 2014 3:53pm

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MaryT1 says...
John I noticed Daley's have three varieties listed at $89 each though they are unavailable at the moment. They also listed a seedling at $29 - do you know how seedlings perform? I know you have a number of fruiting trees - have you sprouted any seeds?

Time: 27th October 2014 5:40pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Seedlings are the wild, vigorous, thorny plants that produce small (inedible?)fruit, unless you get lucky and discover a new cultivar, and lots of suckers that have to be managed. From what I understand, this is the only source of viable seed, the seed from known cultivars are not viable. Some sources say they are viable, I've never had one seed germinate as yet.
I have two rootstock plants that are budding up now for the first time and will flower and fruit sometime in summer. I'll take some pics of the wild ripe fruit when ready. My rootstock plants have grown much larger than the grafted cv's.

Time: 27th October 2014 11:09pm

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MaryT1 says...
John what you said about seedlings is what Ii thought too; that's why I was surprised to see them offered for sale - would that be for the purpose of using them as rootstock? Or are 'rootstock plants' something else?

Time: 28th October 2014 7:51am

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