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Joe Fernandez starts with ...
How well does mamey sapote grow in Australia? and where does it grow? zone, climate etc......here is mine:

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P.S. what is going on with yr forum? I can't post any pics????
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trikus says...
Grows very well here in the wet tropics . Mate has many mature trees and has several types . It is a favourite of mine and I have recently planted several seedlings.
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speedy says...
Sapote also grows well in SE Qld and Nthn NSW.
the most common varieties are 'Pantin' and 'Magana' and there are also seedlings of course.

'Pantin' tends to bear earlier after planting and is oval shaped (like the pics in Trikus's post above) but
'Magana' is bigger and longer and has a sort of acuminate point on the distal end of the fruit.
I prefer the 'Magana', the texture is a bit better

The smaller, but equally yummy Green sapote (Pouteria viride) also grow there.
there are a few selections and a lot of seedlings.
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John Mc says...
So speedy,
We didn't get any frost last year but we're marginal, 1/2 way between Sydney and Newcastle 10K's from the coastline.
Do you think it wise to dig my Green Sapote up and grow it in a pot in the polytunnel?
I have a two year old Soursop in the ground I'm a bit concerned about as well. I've read they will take frost and die back to the ground and spring back up again when it warms up again.
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speedy says...
I reckon they do better in ground if you can protect from cold, especially cold wind or breezes.
in a pot temps will fluctuate much more and could be worse for the plants.

If possible build a climate shelter of some sort over the plants til they get big enough to handle the winters.
make the shelter big enough to be able to get some thermal mass to help buffer against overnight temp drop. eg a drum of water- black if possible.
Is there a fall in the land that they're on?
That is so that cold air can drain away and not settle on your plants?
That would be advantageous.

Soursop frosted to ground...
Ive heard of that happening in Florida where it might happen once in 10-15 yrs with good yrs in between, but not every year.

Another thing, if you can grow some bananas near them you may be able to 'grow out' the frost.
think of banana stems as a lot of water above the ground...
during cold nights the heat is given up to the air and creates a microclimate.
Banana leafes above hold the warm air and reflect warmth.
the bananas are also a source of mulch for your trees.

That's the best I can suggest to help you, without seeing /getting a feel for the site.


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Joe Fernandez says...
hi trikus,

those are awesome looking mameys! I wish we could grow them like your. The only place they grow like your is in South Florida. I have two maganas, they are 4'tall but they are flowering like crazy.
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allybanana says...
The caption on Daleys website says green sapote is more frost tolerant than the mamey. Whereas, the little green bar says mamey has medium frost tolerance and the green low. Could someone please tell me what would be the best for growing in Eden on the coast near the vic boarder, we have a few light frosts a year.
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kert says...
Yes, mamey is frost sensitive; mine died in its first winter. Green Sapote took minus 2 deg C and is growing .albeit v. slowly.
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Thanks Kert
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